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August 21, 2020, 09:23:19 AM
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The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

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August 21, 2020, 09:30:54 AM
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The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

With the scams that has happened in past and privacy issue, people just differ whenever there is a KYC formality needs to be completed and consider it as a high risk of data breach. Thus, this does not suit it and there is no other way as such to identify if the minors are gambling or not. Onus lies on parents at large to check what their kid is doing it.
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August 21, 2020, 09:50:20 AM
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The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

With the scams that has happened in past and privacy issue, people just differ whenever there is a KYC formality needs to be completed and consider it as a high risk of data breach. Thus, this does not suit it and there is no other way as such to identify if the minors are gambling or not. Onus lies on parents at large to check what their kid is doing it.

KYC wouldn't stop these kids from gambling.

We are not even talking about KYC but there are a lot of kids that can actually buy games online that is not suitable with their age, how can they do that? They use their parent's card and account. It is impossible to accurately pinpoint a kid gambling unless they are showing it to everyone. Parents should really control their children, that is the only way. If they really wanted, they could start a seminar for these parents.
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August 21, 2020, 10:00:07 AM
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I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.
I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.
But the problem is Casinos usually don't ask for KYC while you are playing but once you Hit a Good win?then this is the start of sacrifice because they will Push KYC and in the end will accuse you of having multiple account in which categorized as cheating.
how many cases we have seen here and until now this is happening .
Yes you're right, even exchanges are doing things like that, this is highly dishonest and scammy. Those casinos have to be denounced.
We need a wall of shame in the section.

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August 21, 2020, 10:29:14 AM
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Yes you're right, even exchanges are doing things like that, this is highly dishonest and scammy. Those casinos have to be denounced.
We need a wall of shame in the section.

I hear complaint similar to this, actually we hate that but if that is in their TOS, I guess we have no choice but to comply, otherwise,  we will lose our money. Just like in an exchange, for instance Binance exchange, we can trade without KYC  but if we hit over the limit, then we need to comply with the KYC in order to trade and withdraw our money.

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August 21, 2020, 10:55:44 AM
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Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.
there are many place to make bets and Kids nowadays knows about that specially that almost all of them has their own gadgets and direct access to Internet?
they can sur whatever they want inside their rooms.
This same reason why my family make sure that we are talking everyday about what the kids are doing and they must be truthful in telling which sites they are entering,because if i found ou that they are lying?they will be grounded in gadget for months and in internet.
This could also be a factor why a lot of young ages or minors are prone to get involved in online gambling. It's because they are exposed too much on gadgets that they can discover different things and access them because of curiosity without their parents knowing.

Kids nowadays are so smart with gadgets that they even know a lot of things compared to their parents. Parents really are an important role in preventing their kids to get involved in this kind of activity at a young age.



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August 21, 2020, 11:41:37 AM
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Hello

I wanted to write this post because I recently stumbled across an article where apparently a minor was accidentally allowed in an offline casino and it got me thinking how it would be easier for kids to reach the gambling sites online.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/australia/australia-casino-underage-gambling-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

This happened in Australia.

I do know of wonderful online casino sites who are taking care of people who are struck by the pandemic at the same time creating a support helpline for the customers.

Few things I would like to discuss here:

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.



If a minor can get in and play in an online gambling casino, then the parents should be blame for this, it's the responsibility of the parents to make sure that their children cannot access online gambling sites and online adult sites, they have an option to block gambling sites or they can monitor their children's activities online.

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August 21, 2020, 11:54:46 AM
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The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

With the scams that has happened in past and privacy issue, people just differ whenever there is a KYC formality needs to be completed and consider it as a high risk of data breach. Thus, this does not suit it and there is no other way as such to identify if the minors are gambling or not. Onus lies on parents at large to check what their kid is doing it.
KYC wouldn't stop these kids from gambling.

We are not even talking about KYC but there are a lot of kids that can actually buy games online that is not suitable with their age, how can they do that? They use their parent's card and account. It is impossible to accurately pinpoint a kid gambling unless they are showing it to everyone. Parents should really control their children, that is the only way. If they really wanted, they could start a seminar for these parents.
Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.
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August 21, 2020, 12:23:42 PM
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Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.

It's also the same when it comes to pornographic you only need to press the "Yes" button when someone wants to watch porno videos. The button line is, they don't really care who the audience is, as long as their put warnings on it. Gambling however has different strategies but the same as that. They don't know who actually playing the dad or his kids.

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August 21, 2020, 12:34:07 PM
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Technological advancements had both benefited and detriment the lives of human beings.
It made almost everyone smart and tech savvy, especially the new generations.Still, there are drawbacks.
Minors being involved to gambling is subject to parental guidance, websites cannot track who is behind every screen.

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August 21, 2020, 01:06:06 PM
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Technological advancements had both benefited and detriment the lives of human beings.
It made almost everyone smart and tech savvy, especially the new generations.Still, there are drawbacks.
Minors being involved to gambling is subject to parental guidance, websites cannot track who is behind every screen.

Very well said, minors needs parental guidance in everything they do especially when there's a risk involve.

Guidance in a sense that they should not allow their kids to gamble since gambling is not fit for them, taking risk is only for matured people, not for kids, kids should explore, play and has to be guided well. Technological advancements is something that we can't stop, but if we don't have control on it or if we abuse it, it will not result to something we are expecting, anything excessive is bad, we should always know that, and gambling is not for kids.

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August 21, 2020, 02:13:07 PM
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Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.

Gambling however has different strategies but the same as that. They don't know who actually playing the dad or his kids.

What do you exactly mean by this? Gambling has different strategies but they are the same as that of porn sites? You are contradicting yourself with that statement.

Anyway, I agree that sites would only raise warnings and then ask the visitor to confirm that he is not anymore a minor. Of course the minor visitor would have to lie so that he would be able to enter the site. The site in turn does not have any kind of way to make sure that the one who is visiting and who confirms that he is not anymore a minor is in reality not a minor.

If he is in truth a minor, the site does not know that at all.
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August 21, 2020, 02:40:53 PM
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It's been discussed in the past and I don't think KYC could stop these. As they said, there are lot of online casinos they can go to without KYC. Another thing is that they could just use another individual's personal information and use that account to gamble. It is not a problem that the casino should focus on, this should be handed to parents.

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August 21, 2020, 05:07:47 PM
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I do know of wonderful online casino sites who are taking care of people who are struck by the pandemic at the same time creating a support helpline for the customers.

Few things I would like to discuss here:

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

Teenagers who are underage can still fake it. They could take a picture of their parents ID and submit it without the gambling site knowing it. And if the parents banned gambling sites on their network, their kids could go to someone else's house and play there instead. About the gambling site promising that they will secure their customers data and information, I don't think we can trust that one.

2) I do think we have to seriously take this matter in consideration , Gambling is a sport , an activity , a leisure for people , I do support it when done in moderation but when it comes to kids , I do think each and everyone of us is entitled to look into this matter seriously.

You don't have to worry about your kids getting into something like this if you raised them well, because if you did, no matter how their friends or anybody tell them to play gambling, they won't, because they have the lessons and lectures you taught them when they were young, and that's enough foundation to trust your kids that they won't betray you.
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August 21, 2020, 05:17:38 PM
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I cannot fully agree with regards to KYC even if it will likely to prevent minors in joining and using a casino as there is only very few gamblers who are willing
to support it because it is too much just to gamble.

Our credentials also can't be fully protected even if the company will tell us to take good care of our privacy and data because anything can be bought by money and
there is no 100% safe in an online environment.

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August 21, 2020, 05:21:10 PM
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Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.

It's also the same when it comes to pornographic you only need to press the "Yes" button when someone wants to watch porno videos. The button line is, they don't really care who the audience is, as long as their put warnings on it. Gambling however has different strategies but the same as that. They don't know who actually playing the dad or his kids.
Yeah, additional to it, VPN is now accessible and easy to use and techy kids are aware of it.

Actually, the new Opera GX which is a gaming browser that will definitely attract kids, have a VPN, they can easily access those pornsites as long as VPN exists. Platforms are already aware of it but they do not care because the only thing they care about is the profit.
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August 21, 2020, 05:24:43 PM
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No-KYC decentralized casinos should take over or players will keep getting f'ed by KYC. Wasn't Ethereum supposed to fix that? I see some so called decentralized casino ads here and there but none of them are becoming popular, that means they either suck or they can't promote their business well enough. (they probably suck)

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August 21, 2020, 06:44:32 PM
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I cannot fully agree with regards to KYC even if it will likely to prevent minors in joining and using a casino as there is only very few gamblers who are willing
to support it because it is too much just to gamble.

Our credentials also can't be fully protected even if the company will tell us to take good care of our privacy and data because anything can be bought by money and
there is no 100% safe in an online environment.
Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.









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August 21, 2020, 07:42:51 PM
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I cannot fully agree with regards to KYC even if it will likely to prevent minors in joining and using a casino as there is only very few gamblers who are willing
to support it because it is too much just to gamble.

Our credentials also can't be fully protected even if the company will tell us to take good care of our privacy and data because anything can be bought by money and
there is no 100% safe in an online environment.
Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

It's been a debate as internet usages can really be populated by young minors, the gambling sites are not exempted as youth

nowadays are really exploring, it's the obligations of their guardians to watch everything that they are doing while they are online

gambling sites may able to restrict some but not to the fullest even they will implement KYC, minors who are good with internet

can fake it up and continue playing.

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August 22, 2020, 03:09:24 AM
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Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.

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