For the kind attention of the Gambling sites , a small suggestion

[fiulpro]

Hello

I wanted to write this post because I recently stumbled across an article where apparently a minor was accidentally allowed in an offline casino and it got me thinking how it would be easier for kids to reach the gambling sites online.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/australia/australia-casino-underage-gambling-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

This happened in Australia.

I do know of wonderful online casino sites who are taking care of people who are struck by the pandemic at the same time creating a support helpline for the customers.

Few things I would like to discuss here:

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

2) I do think we have to seriously take this matter in consideration , Gambling is a sport , an activity , a leisure for people , I do support it when done in moderation but when it comes to kids , I do think each and everyone of us is entitled to look into this matter seriously.

I want to open this thread to engage the attention of the esteemed online Gambling sites here , so that they can at least give this a thought.

Maybe we need to think beyond KYC, but then again there is a thin line between privacy and regulation , but I do think this matter is of utmost importance.

Please share your thoughts and suggest how we can tackle this issue.

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[Eugenar]

This is important. Gambling is not something which allows everyone to engage into it. There's that risk of being addicted into it. If ever kids will not be prohibited to enter or play in  gambling sites, not to be exaggerated, but this might push young people to steal in order for them to play. They don't have source of income more likely, so it is really possible.

Gambling sites should really pay attention into this matter by strengthening the requirements for a player to be able to enter the room. KYC sometimes is not enough and I hope there would be a way to regulate and avoid this possibility. And if there is already, I would like to know how it is done.

[wxa7115]

While I approve the age restrictions as it is known that your brain is not fully formed until your mid-20s, this means a kid and anyone underage is not ready to take responsible decisions with their money and they need to be restricted to get access to casinos.

In the case of physical casinos this is very easy to do as you could ask people to show you an identification in the case they seem to be too young to be there, but when it comes to online casinos this gets more complex, many fiat casinos allow you to play without forcing you to go through KYC and they only do that once you try to cash out, this allows minors to gamble all they want as long as they do not want to withdraw and when you add cryptocurrencies to the mix this seems like one of those issues that has no easy solution.

[target]

Having kids in the environment not fit for them is always not good epsecially casinos.

While I approve the age restrictions as it is known that your brain is not fully formed until your mid-20s, this means a kid and anyone underage is not ready to take responsible decisions with their money and they need to be restricted to get access to casinos.

In the case of physical casinos this is very easy to do as you could ask people to show you an identification in the case they seem to be too young to be there, but when it comes to online casinos this gets more complex, many fiat casinos allow you to play without forcing you to go through KYC and they only do that once you try to cash out, this allows minors to gamble all they want as long as they do not want to withdraw and when you add cryptocurrencies to the mix this seems like one of those issues that has no easy solution.

Gambling and not withdrawing doesn't make sense. No one wants to come up empty.

But yes its always going to be complicated for an online casino to check their users. Minors can just use anyone's ID especially if the system doesn't use sophisticated AI that wil check faces and documents.

[stomachgrowls]

It would totally remove out the true essence of Cryptocurrency gambling sites when the time they do consider out on having that KYC procedures just for them to avoid those minors to play into the site?
You cant really just say that it would only impose a thin line between privacy and regulation.How can you imply or integrate it because when it comes to verification then you will surely
need to comply on whats being asked.

Lets say you are trying to know on that players identity, then you will surely need corresponding documents, if not then someone can easily bypass it by just giving out false
information which can kids can definitely do.

This is a matter or problem of parenting because even on fiat world, these minors are still prone to this activity.

[goaldigger]

KYC on crypto gambling site is not that strict because of a decentralized system but if those minors will search for a casino gambling site online, I’m sure KYC is there and they wont allow any minors to play. The only way to prevent minors is to educate them and guide them not to gamble because of the risk of losing money. We cannot blame this to the crypto gambling site especially that most of the players still prefer to play anonymously, if you see minors playing on any crypto gambling site better to talk to him and give some reason not to gamble at all.

[theroyalgambler]

Thank you for starting this thread - I believe is important to raise as much awareness as possible and educate everyone in the process.

I also do believe that one of the first people to educate more on this sensitive topic are all the parents that have a children in their family as they are absorbing what the parents do. They are the one that should be taught the importance of not exposing gambling to them. Online Casinos have really not that big power here unless they do ask for KYC right away at the registration (I have seen casinos - even crypto ones that have this process).

The problem is also in the real world, as many bars, pubs in certain countries have games that are available to anyone including the little ones (see this infographic https://www.newcasinos.com/news/the-uk-wants-children-to-gamble/). All of this to say that is up also to each government to have regulated polices on this matters.

I hope this will be one of the last times a child is going to be exposed to such a problem. Utopic? maybe...

[acroman08]

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

I don't have a problem with KYC but a parent should be responsible enough to monitor or limit/block websites(which is possible) they deemed inappropriate for their child. I would not support a KYC just to check my age. these things can be prevented if their parents are responsible enough for their child and I would not trust a company to safely keep my information. there have been cases where important information about their customers/clients have been stolen by the hackers or the company discreetly selling the information of their customers. giving up important information just so I can gamble is not worth it.

ps: the thread would be more appropriate in gambling discussion

[Botnake]

Despite how many regulations the government will make, this would not eliminate the chances that kids could gamble in online casinos particularly the crypto casinos as it's design to cater anonymous gambling. The laws are not necessary anymore, what's necessary is that the parents will be able to guide their kids to prevent from accessing gambling sites, so if these kids could still gamble, they can't blame the government and the casino, but their parents.

[arwin100]

Actually I don't like the KYC to be mandatory due to the reason that minors could possibly reach that since for me this mandatory implementation is not really necessary if this is thing will really be needed in future. The parents itself have obligations on their childs so maybe we are the one oblige to do some certain actions if we see our child doing some nasty plays online.

And also providing KYC online is dangerous and I don't want to give my personal identity to the scammers out there.

[Stedsm]

Is KYC really needed? My only question to you as well as that offline casino where that minor girl was caught gambling -
Were they blind enough to be unable to spot that she could be an underage? How would a 12 year-old girl look? If they can't even spot this thing in front of them, don't you think that today's kids are advanced enough to make a fake ID proof and/or just change their DOB in it in order to gamble anywhere? What difference will KYC make? I have seen many online services which provide fake KYC material for us for just $50 (and some for even less), what change will come after implementing this? Instead of implementing KYC, I believe that strict parental control should be there in order to stop their kids go the gambling way. In online casinos, it'll be much more easier for the kids to enjoy the freedom as they can easily fake out the ID (but here, they'll give someone else's ID like one of their elder ones) and can gamble behind the scenes hiding their real identity.

[stadus]

I don't support KYC especially on gambling sites, they provide the best experience for us gamblers to enjoy, if we allow KYC just to prevent kids from gambling but would result to sacrificing all our private information, I think that is not good and people will not gamble on crypto casinos as there's no difference on fiat casinos. There's no perfect rule, but all the time it's the interest of the business will be a priority.

[traderethereum]

KYC can be an option for a gambling website because we don't know how old people visit on the gambling site.
If we are afraid if kids will access the gambling site by free, then the parents must take care of their children while kids use the internet, even on their mobile phones.
The kids will not know about KYC or share their information with the website, but they can use their parent's information to access the website.
Without protection from the parents, the kids will easily browse the internet, and they will not be easy to visit on the gambling website, but they will easily visit the porn website.
Privacy and regulation will be needed, but the role of parents will be necessary for their kids. The parents need to have responsibility for their kids to guide their kids while they browse the internet.

[Hamphser]

KYC can be an option for a gambling website because we don't know how old people visit on the gambling site.
If we are afraid if kids will access the gambling site by free, then the parents must take care of their children while kids use the internet, even on their mobile phones.
The kids will not know about KYC or share their information with the website, but they can use their parent's information to access the website.
Without protection from the parents, the kids will easily browse the internet, and they will not be easy to visit on the gambling website, but they will easily visit the porn website.
Privacy and regulation will be needed, but the role of parents will be necessary for their kids. The parents need to have responsibility for their kids to guide their kids while they browse the internet.

There are lots of ways and kids on todays generation are really that knowledgeable or able to adapt too fast into tech where they can really find out ways and they are smart enough on how thing works even on
a very young age.I agree that this one goes or does matter with parenting.We cant really blame of gambling sites into this and even how hard they do try to impose regulation and laws there would be still
kids that can able to play and also they would be thinking on how badly it will affect their revenue since people do really hate KYC specially into this market.In solution to this then it will really be
on parents hands on how they do handle out their kids.

[GeorgeJohn]

It's understandable that gambling is the source of some peoples surviving,getting income, hobbies .And without gambling chanced of surviving will be very difficult to them,while matured people enjoyed gambling based on finance or income attach to it,but some gamble because of money which make present kids today to be interested in gambling.
This time kids are very smart to adopt things that surrounds their environments, but is not legal to some extent for a children to adventure into gambling,because from my observation gambling will make them to involves into criminality.
I directly advice to restrict children in some gambling site's because gambling is meant for adults.

[maxreish]

While I kinda agree that kids shouldn't be tolerated and need to pass kyc for restrictions, but things can not be controlled right now. What I mean is, even offline gambling apps and sites doesn't even need some kyc to access and to play with. They are easily access because theh are not centralized enough to do that.

We also know that it has been an old issue about that KYC, age restrictions are disregarded in reality because most of the casinos are not even requiring IDs to check whether their new player is a minor or not. But if in the future, they will gonna implement such kyc to prevent kids from gambling, I will definitely support this idea. It's for the sake of their mindset and probably their future.

[Kupid002]

While I kinda agree that kids shouldn't be tolerated and need to pass kyc for restrictions, but things can not be controlled right now. What I mean is, even offline gambling apps and sites doesn't even need some kyc to access and to play with. They are easily access because theh are not centralized enough to do that.

We also know that it has been an old issue about that KYC, age restrictions are disregarded in reality because most of the casinos are not even requiring IDs to check whether their new player is a minor or not. But if in the future, they will gonna implement such kyc to prevent kids from gambling, I will definitely support this idea. It's for the sake of their mindset and probably their future.

Even they will required KYC it will also reduce the players who want to use their gambling casino website ,Due to the fact that many of us do not want to give any of our credentials  to unknown website casino, even they told us that its secured to its hand.

We need to accept that it is different now and we cannot watch all young people because gambling now a days can be play online, its the parents responsibility To watch their child  to avoid gambling and addiction .

[Bezobraznike]

   I made my first sports bet around that age! That was almost 30 years ago, back then you could buy alcoholic drinks and cigars
without any problems, and I don't think there's something wrong with me. Back then there was a lot more freedom for all of us.
   Now there are too many regulations, but I don't think they do the thing. Parents are the ones who should be responsible and
they should take care of their kids, and there will be kids who will start gambling earlier, kids that grow up faster than other kids.

[traderethereum]

KYC can be an option for a gambling website because we don't know how old people visit on the gambling site.
If we are afraid if kids will access the gambling site by free, then the parents must take care of their children while kids use the internet, even on their mobile phones.
The kids will not know about KYC or share their information with the website, but they can use their parent's information to access the website.
Without protection from the parents, the kids will easily browse the internet, and they will not be easy to visit on the gambling website, but they will easily visit the porn website.
Privacy and regulation will be needed, but the role of parents will be necessary for their kids. The parents need to have responsibility for their kids to guide their kids while they browse the internet.

There are lots of ways and kids on todays generation are really that knowledgeable or able to adapt too fast into tech where they can really find out ways and they are smart enough on how thing works even on
a very young age.I agree that this one goes or does matter with parenting.We cant really blame of gambling sites into this and even how hard they do try to impose regulation and laws there would be still
kids that can able to play and also they would be thinking on how badly it will affect their revenue since people do really hate KYC specially into this market.In solution to this then it will really be
on parents hands on how they do handle out their kids.

I see that too because I have a nephew at a young age who can understand something faster than his aunt or uncle.
When they are online, we need to watch and beside them, and if they want to ask about something, we can tell them, and the good thing is we can prevent them from clicking a strange advertisement link that will appear in front of them.
The gambling site will not know who the visitor, and the site will think that the visitor is an adult people who want to enjoy the games.
The KYC itself will not protect the kids from the rules because they can use their parent's identities.

[nelson4lov]

The rate at which kids are getting involved with technology and stuffs that are way above their levels is alarming. For adults, it might be easy to control the addiction or greed to keep playing but for kids, Its a little more difficult. However, I don't think enforcing KYC on gambling websites is the way to go. That would just be doing more harm than good as privacy is our most valuable asset in the internet. The viable solution right now is just to raise more awareness for parents to restrict their children from certain online activities including gambling.

   I made my first sports bet around that age! That was almost 30 years ago, back then you could buy alcoholic drinks and cigars
without any problems, and I don't think there's something wrong with me. Back then there was a lot more freedom for all of us.

You turned out just fine but there are other kids when exposed to gambling, they can easily get addicted and can go as far as stealing just to fill their gambling hunger. By law, no one under 18 should be allowed to gamble.

[kojektea]

Talking about children who are free to play online, for me this is not a big deal, they have parents who will guide them, and it is the responsibility of their educating parents.
And it is possible for a site to ask for kyc verification data, if they really intend to play, it's not a big problem for them to send kyc with fake data.

[Inkdatar]

Talking about children who are free to play online, for me this is not a big deal, they have parents who will guide them, and it is the responsibility of their educating parents.
And it is possible for a site to ask for kyc verification data, if they really intend to play, it's not a big problem for them to send kyc with fake data.

This matter should need to be discussed. Kyc can be mandatory in a gambling site and with that in my view I’m opposed submitting my personal identification in an online just to gamble. The best thing for this is the parents should be the one must guide their kids not to be involved in gambling as this may result in addiction. During these times we have noticed some other kids are exposed to online gambling and it is necessary that parents are really strict about this kind of matter.

[gadado]

I don't think gambling is a sport. About the KYC most of the gamblers online are afraid to share their personal details and some of them are prefer to play anonymous it's true that you it's easier to play online even if you're not at the right age but there's always a question on the website when you open it or when you register on it asking if you are 18+ or 21+ the gambling sites cannot do anything about that unless KYC is really required under their license.

I think guiding your child would be the solution they can't access or play on the casino sites if the parents are guiding them well.

[AbuBhakar]

I don't think gambling is a sport. About the KYC most of the gamblers online are afraid to share their personal details and some of them are prefer to play anonymous it's true that you it's easier to play online even if you're not at the right age but there's always a question on the website when you open it or when you register on it asking if you are 18+ or 21+ the gambling sites cannot do anything about that unless KYC is really required under their license.

I think guiding your child would be the solution they can't access or play on the casino sites if the parents are guiding them well.

Each gambling sites have their TOS for ages 21 below to avoid them from any sue as many country prohibits childrens to gamble, but some children were to stubborn and still play. While Casinos is still a business and priorities volume of players that's why as much as possible no KYC required because if they will provide KYC and other casinos not, tendency the players will just choose the easy and safest way to make them unknown in playing.
Issuing of KYC can only be fair if all casinos will follow so players will have no choice, but that's seems impossible to happen due to many reasons. For now,only parental guidance is solution with casinos and children's below 21.

[stadus]

I don't think gambling is a sport.

it's really up to a gambler, he is the one who is going to treat gambling regardless of what he likes to.
For me it could be my sport as I like sports betting and I don't usually play physical games myself but I love watching physical games, particularly boxing and basketball.

About the KYC most of the gamblers online are afraid to share their personal details and some of them are prefer to play anonymous it's true that you it's easier to play online even if you're not at the right age but there's always a question on the website when you open it or when you register on it asking if you are 18+ or 21+ the gambling sites cannot do anything about that unless KYC is really required under their license.

They have a reason to be afraid, trusting your information in a gambling site is not normal in crypto casinos, so people would choose what is normal and what give them convenience, and people are gambling in crypto due to anonymous gambling, at least that's the major reason I know.

I think guiding your child would be the solution they can't access or play on the casino sites if the parents are guiding them well.

Indeed, no more, no less.

[gabbie2010]

I don't think gambling is a sport. About the KYC most of the gamblers online are afraid to share their personal details and some of them are prefer to play anonymous it's true that you it's easier to play online even if you're not at the right age but there's always a question on the website when you open it or when you register on it asking if you are 18+ or 21+ the gambling sites cannot do anything about that unless KYC is really required under their license.

I think guiding your child would be the solution they can't access or play on the casino sites if the parents are guiding them well.

Each gambling sites have their TOS for ages 21 below to avoid them from any sue as many country prohibits childrens to gamble, but some children were to stubborn and still play. While Casinos is still a business and priorities volume of players that's why as much as possible no KYC required because if they will provide KYC and other casinos not, tendency the players will just choose the easy and safest way to make them unknown in playing.
Issuing of KYC can only be fair if all casinos will follow so players will have no choice, but that's seems impossible to happen due to many reasons. For now,only parental guidance is solution with casinos and children's below 21.

What makes these children to show more interest in gambling is that some them are soccer fans and lover and got interest in predicting matches of their favorite clubs thus engages in soccer betting, In my country gambling sites are not so much regulated, they don't request for KYC except that the government only taxed them thus allowing any age category to bet, once a kid has the ability to browse a phone they get registered in online betting sites thus having freedom to bet, except parents take absolute control over those kids wayward lives and discourage them from those betting activities there is nothing the government can do about it.

[leea-1334]

I agree on some points that gambling sites must practise ethical and responsible attitudes, but I think the FAQ and the Terms of Services already have a law against underage gambling so if people choose to ignore that,,, what can casinos do? Asking everybody to KYC for account creation is EXPENSIVE and even exchanges who are rich do not do this.

[reliable]

For the casinos they should not be allowing it as physically it can be checked by asking id card and then doing verification. For online it wold be difficult to do so because firstly people do not want to use the KYC as not sure if it can be misused. Secondly for kids, parents need to monitor them and should make them aware about the consequences of gambling at young age.

[mezzaluna]

I wanted to write this post because I recently stumbled across an article where apparently a minor was accidentally allowed in an offline casino and it got me thinking how it would be easier for kids to reach the gambling sites online.

I do know of wonderful online casino sites who are taking care of people who are struck by the pandemic at the same time creating a support helpline for the customers.

Few things I would like to discuss here:

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

2) I do think we have to seriously take this matter in consideration , Gambling is a sport , an activity , a leisure for people , I do support it when done in moderation but when it comes to kids , I do think each and everyone of us is entitled to look into this matter seriously.

Offline casinos? I guess those works in games since they can play with Artificial Intelligence with different kinds of difficulties but having an offline casino that you want to benefit from can either be already made or its just for fun. It is true that people that being stuck in the pandemic is really boring and going to physical casinos is prohibited but having an Online Casino that can make you feel that you are also in a real one can be quite good since that is what people who have hobbies like that are looking for. KYC is only natural since they also want to play with other people even though they are anonymously masked from each other.

[john_nautica]

That is some of the dilemma with the modern technology nowadays. Talking about gambling, no one knows who's behind the screen or an account, point taken that there is FAQ and the Terms of Services already but these are incidents that are almost uncontrollable. If gambling sites would implement more strict protocols then it may result to some players not being happy about that.

[DoublerHunter]

^ In most cases, we can not literally monitor if a minor is using since it does not require a camera in gambling (for real), kids nowadays are smart enough, some can even know the flow of the stock market and most of them can navigate the computer expertly. KYC is the best way to do it, nevertheless, parents should be aware that their kids can imitate them exactly what they are doing. But the problem is, gamblers avoid KYC for their privacy.

[Bezobraznike]

The rate at which kids are getting involved with technology and stuffs that are way above their levels is alarming. For adults, it might be easy to control the addiction or greed to keep playing but for kids, Its a little more difficult. However, I don't think enforcing KYC on gambling websites is the way to go. That would just be doing more harm than good as privacy is our most valuable asset in the internet. The viable solution right now is just to raise more awareness for parents to restrict their children from certain online activities including gambling.

   I made my first sports bet around that age! That was almost 30 years ago, back then you could buy alcoholic drinks and cigars
without any problems, and I don't think there's something wrong with me. Back then there was a lot more freedom for all of us.

You turned out just fine but there are other kids when exposed to gambling, they can easily get addicted and can go as far as stealing just to fill their gambling hunger. By law, no one under 18 should be allowed to gamble.

   I respect the law, but I don't agree with every rule! This is one of the rules I don't agree with. Some people mature faster,
some kids become aware of the world around quickly. I can't agree that people under 18 should be banned from doing things,
I am for education, educate kids about everything, same as I learned my kids will have to learn how to deal with the world,
with all the tempting things around that are dangerous in many ways, not just financial way!

[nelson4lov]

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   I respect the law, but I don't agree with every rule! This is one of the rules I don't agree with. Some people mature faster,
some kids become aware of the world around quickly. I can't agree that people under 18 should be banned from doing things,
I am for education, educate kids about everything, same as I learned my kids will have to learn how to deal with the world,
with all the tempting things around that are dangerous in many ways, not just financial way!

I understand your stance and point of view. For the record, I also don't like some restrictions that the law prevents us from. But in most cases, it has been in the interest of everyone. I acknowledge that some individuals grow faster than their age in terms of common  sense / knowledge. Gambling for example,  do you think its a good idea for say, a 10 year boy to be actively gambling?  I don't think so.

I have no problem with people giving their children education about certain topics that are rarely discussed in most homes. In fact, I actually think it's a good idea to give them heads up that such stuffs exist but it's bad when you allow them participate in it.

[Pmalek]

To be fair, the girl wasn't given the all clear by the staff. Her trashy mother sneaked her in through an exit door and should be even more responsible than the casino for being a piece of shit mother.

I don't think you will get much support around here for KYC. Most users, gamblers or not, are against KYC. Many accidents from the past have proven that those employed to protect our privacy and security have been hacked and private data has been leaked many times.   
Gambling is not a sport and I don't see any reason why it should be considered as a sport. 

Culture and manners are though at home. If the parents took their time to instill rightness and morality, many other things would be easier. 

[kojektea]

Talking about children who are free to play online, for me this is not a big deal, they have parents who will guide them, and it is the responsibility of their educating parents.
And it is possible for a site to ask for kyc verification data, if they really intend to play, it's not a big problem for them to send kyc with fake data.

This matter should need to be discussed. Kyc can be mandatory in a gambling site and with that in my view I’m opposed submitting my personal identification in an online just to gamble. The best thing for this is the parents should be the one must guide their kids not to be involved in gambling as this may result in addiction. During these times we have noticed some other kids are exposed to online gambling and it is necessary that parents are really strict about this kind of matter.

Yes, that's why I don't really agree with gambling sites that ask for personal data information from the gambling site, if only playing gambling is asked for kyc data, it's better if I play real and real gambling, for children's problems it's parents' business those who educate, because they know what is best for their child

[Stedsm]

^ In most cases, we can not literally monitor if a minor is using since it does not require a camera in gambling (for real), kids nowadays are smart enough, some can even know the flow of the stock market and most of them can navigate the computer expertly. KYC is the best way to do it, nevertheless, parents should be aware that their kids can imitate them exactly what they are doing. But the problem is, gamblers avoid KYC for their privacy.

There are spying softwares available in the markets, if parents are too worried about their kids going the wrong way, they should definitely buy it if they don't have time available to be given to their kid. These things will occasionally occur mostly in rich families because of the fact that rich parents don't often look behind their children and support the old tradition that a maid will look after their kids, whilst the truth is, maids don't give a damn about how kids are living, how they behave and where they go. If parents start watching their children, find them gambling and then calmly ask them where did they get to know it? Why did they gamble? What was their mindset? I'm sure their kids will definitely cope up with the situation they get stuck either due to addiction or any depression.

[Bezobraznike]

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I understand your stance and point of view. For the record, I also don't like some restrictions that the law prevents us from. But in most cases, it has been in the interest of everyone. I acknowledge that some individuals grow faster than their age in terms of common  sense / knowledge. Gambling for example,  do you think its a good idea for say, a 10 year boy to be actively gambling?  I don't think so.

I have no problem with people giving their children education about certain topics that are rarely discussed in most homes. In fact, I actually think it's a good idea to give them heads up that such stuffs exist but it's bad when you allow them participate in it.

   As a father I will ask you one thing: Would you like your kids to learn about the world from you or from others?
   This questions sums it up, as a parent I need to learn my children to understand the world! Gambling is a vice, as many
other vices, but you have to show them how to control their needs for excitement, to risk what they can afford to lose,
how to behave and to know the risks involved if they overdo it! Or you would rather let it to learn from others?
   If my 10-year-old kid is good at some sport or in some e-sport, and he shows in interest in making some bets, I would gladly
show him and try to explain to him how to survive in long-term! But my children are under 10 for now, and believe me gambling
is the last of my worries!

[milewilda]

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I understand your stance and point of view. For the record, I also don't like some restrictions that the law prevents us from. But in most cases, it has been in the interest of everyone. I acknowledge that some individuals grow faster than their age in terms of common  sense / knowledge. Gambling for example,  do you think its a good idea for say, a 10 year boy to be actively gambling?  I don't think so.

I have no problem with people giving their children education about certain topics that are rarely discussed in most homes. In fact, I actually think it's a good idea to give them heads up that such stuffs exist but it's bad when you allow them participate in it.

   As a father I will ask you one thing: Would you like your kids to learn about the world from you or from others?
   This questions sums it up, as a parent I need to learn my children to understand the world! Gambling is a vice, as many
other vices, but you have to show them how to control their needs for excitement, to risk what they can afford to lose,
how to behave and to know the risks involved if they overdo it! Or you would rather let it to learn from others?
   If my 10-year-old kid is good at some sport or in some e-sport, and he shows in interest in making some bets, I would gladly
show him and try to explain to him how to survive in long-term! But my children are under 10 for now, and believe me gambling
is the last of my worries!

It would depend on how you do deal with things or on how you do arrange it up as a parent.We do have our own ways to raise and handle out our children but over all we do think on whats good for them.
neither we do have some open kind of thinking where accepting the possibilities for them to get involved even if we dont like it or totally trying your best for them not to learn about it.It all matters
on how you do handle but be sure that they would really understand on whats the risk because this would be the most important so that they wont easily stumbled out on a site just because of their curiosity towards it.
Imposing KYC just because of this incident? it wont really be enough specially on physical casinos because if people or staffs into that place do allow them to enter then it wont really make a difference to imply it.
For online ones then we know that this one isnt really preferable by many.

[adzino]

Hello

I wanted to write this post because I recently stumbled across an article where apparently a minor was accidentally allowed in an offline casino and it got me thinking how it would be easier for kids to reach the gambling sites online.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/australia/australia-casino-underage-gambling-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

This happened in Australia.

I do know of wonderful online casino sites who are taking care of people who are struck by the pandemic at the same time creating a support helpline for the customers.

Few things I would like to discuss here:

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

2) I do think we have to seriously take this matter in consideration , Gambling is a sport , an activity , a leisure for people , I do support it when done in moderation but when it comes to kids , I do think each and everyone of us is entitled to look into this matter seriously.

I want to open this thread to engage the attention of the esteemed online Gambling sites here , so that they can at least give this a thought.

Maybe we need to think beyond KYC, but then again there is a thin line between privacy and regulation , but I do think this matter is of utmost importance.

Please share your thoughts and suggest how we can tackle this issue.

Yeah, I have heard of that. The worst part is, it is their parents that let them in. They watched the gambling. Sad parenting to be honest.
Eventually each and every casino will have to ask for their users to go through the KYC process. The regulators are catching up. You can't escape them. You will have to follow the rules if you want to continue operating your casino. But like you said, privacy becomes an issue. There is no way you can tackle this but to trust the casino who you are providing your information to.

[Kakmakr]

My family was quite open-headed when it got to gambling.. I remember as a kid, I also went to the horse racing track with my Grandfather and he placed the bets for us under his credentials. (We worked out the fixtures after breakfast or the night before from newspapers and then we went to the
track and he placed the bets.   (This is something that I cherish and it is good memories that I would take to my grave)

I cannot see why parents or adult members of the family cannot do this for entertainment with their kids under direct adult supervision. (People would say that by doing that you are creating a gambling addiction with kids, but people allow their kids to smoke and drink at a early age.

A child under adult supervision can be warned by the adult about the dangers of gambling addiction and they could teach them the warning signs and when to stop.

Online gambling is a bit different, because you do not know if the kids stole the credit card and the password and verification documents... so the adult might only find out later that their private documents was used to register at a gambling site.  

[akram143]

Almost every crypto gambling sites to have restirctions to age factors but performing KYC is not really advisable when it comes to crypto sites because people here wants anonymous while playing so you can't demand them to provide all their details if they want to gamble there.If minors doesn't have to access the gambling sites then it is in the hands of their parents, if kid doesn't have enough money then he wouldn't think about gambling.

[Debonaire217]

The rate at which kids are getting involved with technology and stuffs that are way above their levels is alarming. For adults, it might be easy to control the addiction or greed to keep playing but for kids, Its a little more difficult. However, I don't think enforcing KYC on gambling websites is the way to go. That would just be doing more harm than good as privacy is our most valuable asset in the internet.

KYC is a very critical decision to implement by the platform, first, it could limit their potential players because most of the time, people prefers to stays anonymous for privacy reason. But we need to dig deeper for their reasons why in order to enforce a KYC restrictions. Most of the time, we are afraid that a platform might expose or leak our personal sensitive informations. That falls within the reliability of the platforms. If there will be an international standards for regulating gambling casinos, it could help us to accept their TOS regarding KYC. Therefore, limiting younger ages to be involved in gambling.

Anyway, it isn't just the KYC that could solve this problem. I like that you state this:

The viable solution right now is just to raise more awareness for parents to restrict their children from certain online activities including gambling.

It is not bad that they could see their parents gambling, or to see gambling sites online through ads, what is bad is when parents didn't care about it since they should be the one supervising their child to understand the risk of taking part in gambling at age when these kids doesn't have any source of income yet.

[carriebee]

Almost every crypto gambling sites to have restirctions to age factors but performing KYC is not really advisable when it comes to crypto sites because people here wants anonymous while playing so you can't demand them to provide all their details if they want to gamble there.If minors doesn't have to access the gambling sites then it is in the hands of their parents, if kid doesn't have enough money then he wouldn't think about gambling.

I like your point because some gamblers don't want to provide kyc. Even me personally I don't like to expose my  identification in any site. What I can see for this is on the parents to guide their kids not to explore any gambling site.

[swogerino]

I think the crypto gambling casinos should not require a KYC.They should require it only when they suspect someone has done some hacking or found a glitch in their system and won huge amount of money in a really short time,I am not talking about someone winning a huge jackpot here obviously.I think nowadays in our society we see kids or minors,someone who is under 18 to take drugs,drink alcoholic drinks and smoke unfortunately.I agree it is the parents responsibility nowadays and crypto casinos should adopt to this and start removing KYC which is going against the nature of crypto in general,Monero for example which is can be used as an untraceable transaction if the users both agree on it.

[Shasha80]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

[Natalim]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy.

Yes, I believe in anonymity and privacy, but that is only from wallet to wallet as transactions in blockchain is anonymous.
However, gambling sites is not anymore in our control, if government will regulate it and require them to implement KYC to clients, we can't do anything about it because in the first place gambling site are not decentralized.

We can only achieve anonymity if we have a decentralized gambling sites.

Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

Agree, parents as the educator is more effective that the law created by the government.

[maydna]

Agree, parents as the educator is more effective that the law created by the government.

What I see in this digital era is many parents seem doesn't care with their kids. If you meet your friends with their kids, their parents will not protect their kids, but their parents busy to talk with their friends. That happens too in their homes because I see many parents in their homes still busy with their mobile phone just to chat with other friends, watch a movie, or browse the website. They think that if they give mobile phones to their kids, it will help their kids to learn anything they want, but that is wrong.

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy.

Yes, I believe in anonymity and privacy, but that is only from wallet to wallet as transactions in blockchain is anonymous.
However, gambling sites is not anymore in our control, if government will regulate it and require them to implement KYC to clients, we can't do anything about it because in the first place gambling site are not decentralized.

We can only achieve anonymity if we have a decentralized gambling sites.

The government can force crypto gambling site to follow their rule if the casino wants to continue their business, and the casino cannot do anything except follow. I think the government want to know who are the customers for every casino, and how much money they spend in a month, so if they see one gambler use too big money, the government can investigate it and see what it happens. But the gambler itself will have another chance to search for the other gambling website that is running without applying KYC. If the gamblers found the site, they will register and stay in that site because they can hide their identity from anyone.

[shoreno]

if you only knew , other countries have minors that are notorious when it comes to gambling because they cut classes just to play  . they smoke , drink and do things too aside from gambling that supposed to be for adults only . schools do have a lack of security because students can go out whenever they want but gambling owner's shouldnt also allow this kids because somtimes they only care about the profit

[Latviand]

Kids should not be included in this kind of activity, gambling should not be taught to them.

There are a lot of things that a kid should focused on, studying and playing games, but not these gambling games that can ruin their future.

KYC is really important to secure the platform and also the customers who are accessing it. It is not that their privacy will be taken but it is for the safety of the regulation in a certain gambling casino. Age limits are really required so that we know if the customer is in the legal age to access casinos.

Risks in gambling are so high that it can cause damage in to a young person's mental health if he loses.

[Saint-loup]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.

[peter0425]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.

But the problem is Casinos usually don't ask for KYC while you are playing but once you Hit a Good win?then this is the start of sacrifice because they will Push KYC and in the end will accuse you of having multiple account in which categorized as cheating.
how many cases we have seen here and until now this is happening .

[plvbob0070]

I have also seen this news recently, and for me, even if gambling sites will require KYC, I think minors would still find ways to gamble if they want. Just like what happened in the article you give, the security is tighter because it's a physical casino where they can personally check their IDs, but they still manage to get in and gamble before being caught.

And not everyone will prefer KYC that's why for me, it's not just the casino operator's (whether it's physical or online) responsibility to stop minors from gambling. Minors should be guided by their guardians about this kind of interest, but look at the news, it's her mother who sneaked her inside the casino.

[Wexnident]

It is an issue that has been a problem for quite some time now tbh. Normal gambling (online or offline) usually take care of KYC procedures and there's no problem there, but crypto gambling embodies what crypto is for, specifically anonymity. By providing KYC, what's the point of playing on crypto sites? In fact, they'd just be able to connect my identity to my wallet, which is a lot more information than normal KYC on regular casinos. I admit, minors shouldn't be allowed, and there should be somehow a way to prevent them, but KYC on crypto sites? That's a no-no. Let KYC stay on regular casinos, and let crypto casinos stay as they are.

The most helpful solution here after KYC would mostly fall on parent regulation of their kids tbh. Sadly, that seems different to implement on ALL families out there, since they can't really keep watch of them 24/7.

[Mauser]

Kids should not be included in this kind of activity, gambling should not be taught to them.

There are a lot of things that a kid should focused on, studying and playing games, but not these gambling games that can ruin their future.

KYC is really important to secure the platform and also the customers who are accessing it. It is not that their privacy will be taken but it is for the safety of the regulation in a certain gambling casino. Age limits are really required so that we know if the customer is in the legal age to access casinos.

Risks in gambling are so high that it can cause damage in to a young person's mental health if he loses.

The only problem I see with when telling kids to don't do something, they will just do it for the sake of acting against their parents. Especially if they see grown ups doing it. If something is forbidden it just makes it more desireable. It would be better to include gambling into any education. Better to try and make them understand why it's a bad thing in the young age and can lead to addiction.

I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.

But how would you than make sure that no underage kids play on the casino then? Kids have access to FIAT or crypto currencies.

[robelneo]

We have conflicting arguments on this issue we don't want KYC and yet we have to protect our kids, I don't like KYC in gambling and parents should be the one to monitor activities of their kids online up until the time they are matured enough to fully understand that gambling is for those who can afford only and it should be for entertainment, parents should see to it that their kids have that outlook while they are growing.

[Questat]

I have also seen this news recently, and for me, even if gambling sites will require KYC, I think minors would still find ways to gamble if they want. Just like what happened in the article you give, the security is tighter because it's a physical casino where they can personally check their IDs, but they still manage to get in and gamble before being caught.

Minors are smart also, they can always find a way to verify their account if KYC is required, but at least it would be considered as good control for casinos to minimize the abuse from the minors, yeah, this time its the minors who are abusing as they lied when they sign up, they check that 18+ though they aren't.

And not everyone will prefer KYC that's why for me, it's not just the casino operator's (whether it's physical or online) responsibility to stop minors from gambling. Minors should be guided by their guardians about this kind of interest, but look at the news, it's her mother who sneaked her inside the casino.

For me, I would prefer an anonymous gambling but if time will come that our government will take that away from us, there's nothing we can do, unless there's what we called decentralized gambling.

[AjithBtc]

Any form of strict regulation won't be that effective restricting minors from gambling. From my view gambling sites are doing the KYC procedure in a perfect manner. This doesn't allow users below age to gamble. The only thing that lets kids gamble is by providing false identities on verification. Maybe there needs to be something advanced to overcome this issue.

[bitcoinisbest]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

If at first place only to register at site if KYC is asked, many out just not even register on such site as rightly said that people love to stay being anonymous for various reasons. Unless if the government has imposed or there is a law where it requires mandatory KYC needs to be done than it becomes different story. Also, for kids gambling that nothing can be done if they have money with them, they can use in whichever way they want to. So, role of parents, guardian become important here.

[Rosilito]

I understand the concern but such incident is a responsibility of the parent alone. KYC on the other hand, as being said might going to hinder/doubt potential gamblers to start playin'. Besides, even if several gambling platforms has such requirements, they really won't even know who were betting behind the screen. I mean, the given news might even happen online -- it would the parents who would submit the requirements then they'll just let their children to gamble. So it don't make any sense imo, after all.

[Ziskinberg]

I understand the concern but such incident is a responsibility of the parent alone.

Agree with you on this, parents must be responsible so their minor children won't do stupid things accessing a gambling site.

KYC on the other hand, as being said might going to hinder/doubt potential gamblers to start playin'. Besides, even if several gambling platforms has such requirements, they really won't even know who were betting behind the screen. I mean, the given news might even happen online -- it would the parents who would submit the requirements then they'll just let their children to gamble. So it don't make any sense imo, after all.

Even casinos would not like the idea, it's their advantage over fiat casinos that they don't require KYC to their gamblers.
They might not get big individual bets like fiat casinos have, but crypto casinos could be profitable by attractive volume of small gamblers.

[Taskford]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

If at first place only to register at site if KYC is asked, many out just not even register on such site as rightly said that people love to stay being anonymous for various reasons. Unless if the government has imposed or there is a law where it requires mandatory KYC needs to be done than it becomes different story. Also, for kids gambling that nothing can be done if they have money with them, they can use in whichever way they want to. So, role of parents, guardian become important here.

Parents have major rule in this issue since they are the one who can monitor their child and its not really good to have mandatory KYC just for that reason since its so bad to generalize all things on this and risk those other who want to be anonymous online.

But this issue will be no problem at all if government will act as middle man and regulate all the online casino.

[FontSeli]

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

At the moment, there is no effective mechanism that would restrict minors ' access to online casinos.
KYC can easily be passed with the help of other people's documents (for example, taken from parents) and therefore can't be a guarantee that only adults will play in online casinos.
And ordinary players who care about their anonymity KYC can push away from playing in this casino.

[Sadlife]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

[Mauser]

The rules today are much strichter for kids playing in Casino and they are also more enforced than in the past. A lot of the poker pros we like to watch now on TV these days started as minors playing in illegal poker games. First in some underground games and later in casinos. In the 80s and 90s it was pretty common for the underage poker players to have fake IDs so they could be playing in casino games. It is really hard to judge the maturity of people with a fixed age number, is some with 18 really so much more serious than some with 17 1/2. I agree that all kids should be protected, but if someone has a lot of experience in a game and is aware of the risk he is taking we should have some leniency. We allow kids to drive a car with 16 when a parent is present. Maybe something similar could be done for gambling too? Visiting casinos with a parent? To get a better understanding of the risks involved.

[TitanGEL]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

If at first place only to register at site if KYC is asked, many out just not even register on such site as rightly said that people love to stay being anonymous for various reasons. Unless if the government has imposed or there is a law where it requires mandatory KYC needs to be done than it becomes different story. Also, for kids gambling that nothing can be done if they have money with them, they can use in whichever way they want to. So, role of parents, guardian become important here.

Parents have major rule in this issue since they are the one who can monitor their child and its not really good to have mandatory KYC just for that reason since its so bad to generalize all things on this and risk those other who want to be anonymous online.

But this issue will be no problem at all if government will act as middle man and regulate all the online casino.

If there child is still a minor then they are the liability ones if something bad happen to their child but a parent should teach their child when it comes to putting money on something especially gambling. I think the OP is wrong when he mentioned that gambling is a sport where any people can engage it because there are certain mentality and mindset that is required before getting money out of your pocket.

KYC cannot stop a minor to play gambling, what do I say so because most the generation nowadays are too smart. If I'm still a minor and the online casinos requires me to verify my identity then I will just switch in other casino where I can play anonymously.

[reliable]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

Another reason is that if kids want to play as they have money and if they lose this will results some profits to the casinos so this opportunity no business owner would like to give up. And if KYC needs to be done then people may not be willing to share their information due to the trust factor.

[MCobian]

Parental supervision is the main key so that children do not get involved with gambling sites, which it is feared that children cannot control
themselves, so as not to become addicted to gambling. But the problem is it's difficult to supervise the child 24/7, there must be a moment
for both parents to be busy and children have sufficient free time to access gambling sites. To overcome this, parents must be able to provide
education and understanding that gambling sites are not good for them.

[Pamadar]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

Another reason is that if kids want to play as they have money and if they lose this will results some profits to the casinos so this opportunity no business owner would like to give up. And if KYC needs to be done then people may not be willing to share their information due to the trust factor.

Majorities of gamblers who doesn't want to reveal their identities will not accept this KYC process. They will be moving to another
places where they will not be requires to produced those important information.
Casino owners might have differences regarding to this position knowing that they are concerned with the benefits that they can
get from any adjustment that needed to be done.

[Oilacris]

Parental supervision is the main key so that children do not get involved with gambling sites, which it is feared that children cannot control
themselves, so as not to become addicted to gambling. But the problem is it's difficult to supervise the child 24/7, there must be a moment
for both parents to be busy and children have sufficient free time to access gambling sites. To overcome this, parents must be able to provide
education and understanding that gambling sites are not good for them.

I don't know why kids will be stumble upon to a gambling sites if no one is teaching them. The parents should watch their kids activities behind the internet to avoid a mess in the near future. That's why there are apps available in the internet so that parents could watch what their kids been doing in the internet. I don't know if their parents really did play gambling then forgot to logout or hide their gambling activity so that their kids won't accidentally open it. It is their responsibility to provide their kids the right information and avoid the adult stuff from them when it is not the right time yet.

You cant say that kids wont able to learn or do need to be teach them first before they can able to have grasp on things.We know that they can learn fast and if their curiosity is high then tendency
on exploring and learning that thing he likes will be on next in line.

With that then dealing up with gambling wont really be that hard specially if he do deal with luck based games like dice or slots which isnt really hard for you to play or even on a very minimal
supervision or even dealing with your own wont be that hard.

For offline casino then it would be more easy since it would be tactile and you can really hold those machines with your hands.I can say that casino management
had some fault on letting minors do get in into the premises.

[Natalim]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

Another reason is that if kids want to play as they have money and if they lose this will results some profits to the casinos so this opportunity no business owner would like to give up. And if KYC needs to be done then people may not be willing to share their information due to the trust factor.

Casino wants profit but they don't need money from minors, imagine how much minors can only afford to gamble, that's only a small slice of pie on the total amount they are making on a daily basis. So they gave a warning, it's up to gamblers to follow it or now, unfortunately, no one could verify if gamblers are minors or not since we are talking of online casinos here that offers anonymous gambling.

If there's a casino to regulate, that should be fiat casinos.

[Twentyonepaylots]

Almost every crypto gambling sites to have restirctions to age factors but performing KYC is not really advisable when it comes to crypto sites because people here wants anonymous while playing so you can't demand them to provide all their details if they want to gamble there.If minors doesn't have to access the gambling sites then it is in the hands of their parents, if kid doesn't have enough money then he wouldn't think about gambling.

I like your point because some gamblers don't want to provide kyc. Even me personally I don't like to expose my  identification in any site. What I can see for this is on the parents to guide their kids not to explore any gambling site.

It is the casinos right to do KYC or not, this happened to be instructed by the central government especially when they are fully handed by the government, in short they are living by the book provided by the government. But then there is nothing wrong with KYC procedures as long as the data will be stored privately. Most of us are just afraid for an instance of hacking incidents where our data could be steal and use in illegal activity. The data disclosure is what we are afraid of, they can even sell it without us knowing and could just told us that their system was breached. None of us will really know.

[Ryker1]

[snip]
You cant say that kids wont able to learn or do need to be teach them first before they can able to have grasp on things.We know that they can learn fast and if their curiosity is high then tendency
on exploring and learning that thing he likes will be on next in line.

Well, this was right. Even the gambling casino has a KYC for the sake of the minor age will not be involved, --they will always find ways just to gamble due to their curiosity on it. We know kids nowadays if they need to cheat they will do and if they wanted to. Minors are easy to be addicted and that is a target to those businesses out there either gambling or not, --these young people are too weak and perhaps did not know the real value of money, and as long as they had parents to ask for their leisure.
We cannot blame the gambling casinos here for our kids if they will be involved in gambling. Because that is our responsibility to guide them in a right way for their own better future. Kepp communicating them and monitor their activity will help them to be a good person someday. So KYC is not important, that can help for privacy protection of the player.

[maydna]

We cannot blame the gambling casinos here for our kids if they will be involved in gambling. Because that is our responsibility to guide them in a right way for their own better future. Kepp communicating them and monitor their activity will help them to be a good person someday. So KYC is not important, that can help for privacy protection of the player.

Yes, in these situations, the gambling casino is like a tool for every people, whether they want to use the casino or not. But if that is related to our kids, we need to take care of them, don't let them online alone, especially if they are in their room for a long time. We can teach them about something good instead of letting them use their mobile phones or laptops or computers to search for something they don't know. If they want to search for something, we need to stay beside them to teach or tell them. Perhaps, KYC is still required if the government still insists on knowing about the people who often play gambling and want to get tax from the casino.

[Timelord2067]

What you should have said in your OP was that the mother snuck the child into the Casino by opening an emergency exit door to allow the child to sneak into the Casino.  It's a non issue.  Children aren't allowed into Casinos - the only way they would be found inside is as the article sates they illegally gained access.

[imstillthebest]

We cannot blame the gambling casinos here for our kids if they will be involved in gambling. Because that is our responsibility to guide them in a right way for their own better future. Kepp communicating them and monitor their activity will help them to be a good person someday. So KYC is not important, that can help for privacy protection of the player.

Yes, in these situations, the gambling casino is like a tool for every people, whether they want to use the casino or not. But if that is related to our kids, we need to take care of them, don't let them online alone, especially if they are in their room for a long time. We can teach them about something good instead of letting them use their mobile phones or laptops or computers to search for something they don't know. If they want to search for something, we need to stay beside them to teach or tell them. Perhaps, KYC is still required if the government still insists on knowing about the people who often play gambling and want to get tax from the casino.

tool ? to escape the reality for a while and to have fun or forget problems temporarily  . for adults only but for kids , kids have thier own kind of fun and its not gambling  . not saying gambling is bad but its a habit to us that we should teach kids educational stuffs until they are on their right age  . i agree that we must watch our kids when they use electronic devices but if this is not possible , we can check the history of the browsers to see if they visit gambling site or not .

[kayvie]

We cannot blame the gambling casinos here for our kids if they will be involved in gambling. Because that is our responsibility to guide them in a right way for their own better future. Kepp communicating them and monitor their activity will help them to be a good person someday. So KYC is not important, that can help for privacy protection of the player.

Yes, in these situations, the gambling casino is like a tool for every people, whether they want to use the casino or not. But if that is related to our kids, we need to take care of them, don't let them online alone, especially if they are in their room for a long time. We can teach them about something good instead of letting them use their mobile phones or laptops or computers to search for something they don't know. If they want to search for something, we need to stay beside them to teach or tell them. Perhaps, KYC is still required if the government still insists on knowing about the people who often play gambling and want to get tax from the casino.

tool ? to escape the reality for a while and to have fun or forget problems temporarily  . for adults only but for kids , kids have thier own kind of fun and its not gambling  . not saying gambling is bad but its a habit to us that we should teach kids educational stuffs until they are on their right age  . i agree that we must watch our kids when they use electronic devices but if this is not possible , we can check the history of the browsers to see if they visit gambling site or not .

I think you misunderstood what he said.
He said that gambling is a tool for everyone, but it excludes the kids since he stated that if it is related to the kids, the adult ones are the one who is responsible to take care of them.

To OP, I think this should really give attention, there's a lot of possible problems they might face if kids will really get into online casinos. Even without requiring KYC, but there should be some kind of security to avoid kids to get in.

[peter0425]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

Another reason is that if kids want to play as they have money and if they lose this will results some profits to the casinos so this opportunity no business owner would like to give up. And if KYC needs to be done then people may not be willing to share their information due to the trust factor.

Kids or adult have same chances and that is more on losing than winning so i think it is not about the ages but the reality that gambling sites are created to Bag peoples money so the thing is either you limit yourself from playing or lose at all.

Government has nothing to do with this because we have our free will.

and if we lose its our mistake while same as if we win,because for sure we will come back to play again and again.

[Kupid002]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

Don't forget that there are many ways that they can use if they really want to play , asking for KYC will not help at all if the persons can bought a kyc verified account to an older persons so having it doesn't help it will just make it difficult for players   that protect their identity in playing   for personal security reasons.

[kotajikikox]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

there are many place to make bets and Kids nowadays knows about that specially that almost all of them has their own gadgets and direct access to Internet?
they can sur whatever they want inside their rooms.
This same reason why my family make sure that we are talking everyday about what the kids are doing and they must be truthful in telling which sites they are entering,because if i found ou that they are lying?they will be grounded in gadget for months and in internet.

[Fundamentals Of]

Gambling casinos should be given the free will whether to impose KYC or not unless they are all required by law to implement it to every single gambler. If not, they are not bound to implement it simply because non-KYC gambling could be abused by minors.

The issue of minors playing in crypto casinos falls under parental guidance. Parents should monitor their children and make sure they are not involved in gambling. Even with KYC, gambling sites do not have the capacity to verify one by one their clients, beyond those information submitted to them.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

[bitcoinisbest]

The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

With the scams that has happened in past and privacy issue, people just differ whenever there is a KYC formality needs to be completed and consider it as a high risk of data breach. Thus, this does not suit it and there is no other way as such to identify if the minors are gambling or not. Onus lies on parents at large to check what their kid is doing it.

[Janation]

The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

With the scams that has happened in past and privacy issue, people just differ whenever there is a KYC formality needs to be completed and consider it as a high risk of data breach. Thus, this does not suit it and there is no other way as such to identify if the minors are gambling or not. Onus lies on parents at large to check what their kid is doing it.

KYC wouldn't stop these kids from gambling.

We are not even talking about KYC but there are a lot of kids that can actually buy games online that is not suitable with their age, how can they do that? They use their parent's card and account. It is impossible to accurately pinpoint a kid gambling unless they are showing it to everyone. Parents should really control their children, that is the only way. If they really wanted, they could start a seminar for these parents.

[Saint-loup]

I agree with the opinion of most of the members here regarding crypto gambling sites should not apply KYC procedures for
overcoming age restrictions for gambling. Because it is not in accordance with the basic principles of cryptocurrency which
prioritizes anonymity and privacy. Indeed, the role of parents is very important, by providing education for children under
18 years of age, so they do not access gambling sites and adult sites.

I agree with you, this type of measure is in contradiction with the crypto philosophy : libertarian, decentralized and anonymous.
If people think KYC is a better thing, there is no point in gambling with cryptos anymore. Fiat gambling is perfect for that.

But the problem is Casinos usually don't ask for KYC while you are playing but once you Hit a Good win?then this is the start of sacrifice because they will Push KYC and in the end will accuse you of having multiple account in which categorized as cheating.
how many cases we have seen here and until now this is happening .

Yes you're right, even exchanges are doing things like that, this is highly dishonest and scammy. Those casinos have to be denounced.
We need a wall of shame in the section.

[Kasabus]

Yes you're right, even exchanges are doing things like that, this is highly dishonest and scammy. Those casinos have to be denounced.
We need a wall of shame in the section.

I hear complaint similar to this, actually we hate that but if that is in their TOS, I guess we have no choice but to comply, otherwise,  we will lose our money. Just like in an exchange, for instance Binance exchange, we can trade without KYC  but if we hit over the limit, then we need to comply with the KYC in order to trade and withdraw our money.

[plvbob0070]

Thart's pretty hard, and also impossible. Even with the implementation of KYC to major online gambling sites in the world, there's still many casino's and sports bookie's out there that doesn't require it. In fact they promote; anonymity due to some people unable to play online gambling because of the government laws in their country. That's why, i think it's impossible to prevent children from visiting these kind of sites.

there are many place to make bets and Kids nowadays knows about that specially that almost all of them has their own gadgets and direct access to Internet?
they can sur whatever they want inside their rooms.
This same reason why my family make sure that we are talking everyday about what the kids are doing and they must be truthful in telling which sites they are entering,because if i found ou that they are lying?they will be grounded in gadget for months and in internet.

This could also be a factor why a lot of young ages or minors are prone to get involved in online gambling. It's because they are exposed too much on gadgets that they can discover different things and access them because of curiosity without their parents knowing.

Kids nowadays are so smart with gadgets that they even know a lot of things compared to their parents. Parents really are an important role in preventing their kids to get involved in this kind of activity at a young age.

[aioc]

Hello

I wanted to write this post because I recently stumbled across an article where apparently a minor was accidentally allowed in an offline casino and it got me thinking how it would be easier for kids to reach the gambling sites online.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/15/australia/australia-casino-underage-gambling-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

This happened in Australia.

I do know of wonderful online casino sites who are taking care of people who are struck by the pandemic at the same time creating a support helpline for the customers.

Few things I would like to discuss here:

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

If a minor can get in and play in an online gambling casino, then the parents should be blame for this, it's the responsibility of the parents to make sure that their children cannot access online gambling sites and online adult sites, they have an option to block gambling sites or they can monitor their children's activities online.

[finaleshot2016]

The only problem with KYC is our privacy and our reputation that someone could hack their system and steal someone's information to used it in their illegal activities, that is why bounty hunters and investors don't trust KYC in new projects nowadays because it might turned out to be a scam project. But if there are minors that has an interest to gamble in a crypto casino, maybe requiring a KYC should be implemented, and parents should always monitor their children if they are getting involved in gambling sites.

With the scams that has happened in past and privacy issue, people just differ whenever there is a KYC formality needs to be completed and consider it as a high risk of data breach. Thus, this does not suit it and there is no other way as such to identify if the minors are gambling or not. Onus lies on parents at large to check what their kid is doing it.

KYC wouldn't stop these kids from gambling.

We are not even talking about KYC but there are a lot of kids that can actually buy games online that is not suitable with their age, how can they do that? They use their parent's card and account. It is impossible to accurately pinpoint a kid gambling unless they are showing it to everyone. Parents should really control their children, that is the only way. If they really wanted, they could start a seminar for these parents.

Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.

[yazher]

Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.

It's also the same when it comes to pornographic you only need to press the "Yes" button when someone wants to watch porno videos. The button line is, they don't really care who the audience is, as long as their put warnings on it. Gambling however has different strategies but the same as that. They don't know who actually playing the dad or his kids.

[VanityWallets2015]

Technological advancements had both benefited and detriment the lives of human beings.
It made almost everyone smart and tech savvy, especially the new generations.Still, there are drawbacks.
Minors being involved to gambling is subject to parental guidance, websites cannot track who is behind every screen.

[Questat]

Technological advancements had both benefited and detriment the lives of human beings.
It made almost everyone smart and tech savvy, especially the new generations.Still, there are drawbacks.
Minors being involved to gambling is subject to parental guidance, websites cannot track who is behind every screen.

Very well said, minors needs parental guidance in everything they do especially when there's a risk involve.

Guidance in a sense that they should not allow their kids to gamble since gambling is not fit for them, taking risk is only for matured people, not for kids, kids should explore, play and has to be guided well. Technological advancements is something that we can't stop, but if we don't have control on it or if we abuse it, it will not result to something we are expecting, anything excessive is bad, we should always know that, and gambling is not for kids.

[Fundamentals Of]

Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.

Gambling however has different strategies but the same as that. They don't know who actually playing the dad or his kids.

What do you exactly mean by this? Gambling has different strategies but they are the same as that of porn sites? You are contradicting yourself with that statement.

Anyway, I agree that sites would only raise warnings and then ask the visitor to confirm that he is not anymore a minor. Of course the minor visitor would have to lie so that he would be able to enter the site. The site in turn does not have any kind of way to make sure that the one who is visiting and who confirms that he is not anymore a minor is in reality not a minor.

If he is in truth a minor, the site does not know that at all.

[FlightyPouch]

It's been discussed in the past and I don't think KYC could stop these. As they said, there are lot of online casinos they can go to without KYC. Another thing is that they could just use another individual's personal information and use that account to gamble. It is not a problem that the casino should focus on, this should be handed to parents.

[AicecreaME]

<...>
I do know of wonderful online casino sites who are taking care of people who are struck by the pandemic at the same time creating a support helpline for the customers.

Few things I would like to discuss here:

1) If KYC along with other information is needed to make sure Minors cannot access the gambling sites , I do think we should support it , until and unless the company agrees to take care of the privacy and data of their customers that I know they happily will.

Teenagers who are underage can still fake it. They could take a picture of their parents ID and submit it without the gambling site knowing it. And if the parents banned gambling sites on their network, their kids could go to someone else's house and play there instead. About the gambling site promising that they will secure their customers data and information, I don't think we can trust that one.

2) I do think we have to seriously take this matter in consideration , Gambling is a sport , an activity , a leisure for people , I do support it when done in moderation but when it comes to kids , I do think each and everyone of us is entitled to look into this matter seriously.

You don't have to worry about your kids getting into something like this if you raised them well, because if you did, no matter how their friends or anybody tell them to play gambling, they won't, because they have the lessons and lectures you taught them when they were young, and that's enough foundation to trust your kids that they won't betray you.

[BlackFor3st]

I cannot fully agree with regards to KYC even if it will likely to prevent minors in joining and using a casino as there is only very few gamblers who are willing
to support it because it is too much just to gamble.

Our credentials also can't be fully protected even if the company will tell us to take good care of our privacy and data because anything can be bought by money and
there is no 100% safe in an online environment.

[finaleshot2016]

Agree, kids nowadays can do what they want and can access their parents' cards secretly and buy a lot of games and battle passes for the game. So even a gambling platform, kids can definitely play even they are prohibited because it's easy to use someone's details on a specific platform and I bet that kids can do it too by using their parent's identity.

KYC isn't the solution to this, parents' guidance are needed in this kind of situation.

It's also the same when it comes to pornographic you only need to press the "Yes" button when someone wants to watch porno videos. The button line is, they don't really care who the audience is, as long as their put warnings on it. Gambling however has different strategies but the same as that. They don't know who actually playing the dad or his kids.

Yeah, additional to it, VPN is now accessible and easy to use and techy kids are aware of it.

Actually, the new Opera GX which is a gaming browser that will definitely attract kids, have a VPN, they can easily access those pornsites as long as VPN exists. Platforms are already aware of it but they do not care because the only thing they care about is the profit.

[mindrust]

No-KYC decentralized casinos should take over or players will keep getting f'ed by KYC. Wasn't Ethereum supposed to fix that? I see some so called decentralized casino ads here and there but none of them are becoming popular, that means they either suck or they can't promote their business well enough. (they probably suck)

[jrrsparkles]

I cannot fully agree with regards to KYC even if it will likely to prevent minors in joining and using a casino as there is only very few gamblers who are willing
to support it because it is too much just to gamble.

Our credentials also can't be fully protected even if the company will tell us to take good care of our privacy and data because anything can be bought by money and
there is no 100% safe in an online environment.

Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

[bitterguy28]

I cannot fully agree with regards to KYC even if it will likely to prevent minors in joining and using a casino as there is only very few gamblers who are willing
to support it because it is too much just to gamble.

Our credentials also can't be fully protected even if the company will tell us to take good care of our privacy and data because anything can be bought by money and
there is no 100% safe in an online environment.

Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

It's been a debate as internet usages can really be populated by young minors, the gambling sites are not exempted as youth

nowadays are really exploring, it's the obligations of their guardians to watch everything that they are doing while they are online

gambling sites may able to restrict some but not to the fullest even they will implement KYC, minors who are good with internet

can fake it up and continue playing.

[maydna]

Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.

[panganib999]

Mostly gambling sites upon registration is just asking for username, email address and password to enter the gambling sites. There are also sites that asks to check if you are already 18+ to be able to complete the registration which can be bypassed by minors for there are no requirements asked just honesty to state that you are really an adult or teenager aging 18+ to be liable on registering into an online gambling site. Many people are avoiding sites that were asking for KYC for they are afraid of the private informations to be shared online because it might be used to illegal transactions once the site you have got is a scam one which can steal your identity and make use of it with other activities.

Even if there is KYC process, still minors can do bypass the process by using other identification card to complete the registration. There is no other thing that we can control the situation but just to have a tight observation on kids not to get involved on online gambling sites although the aim of some is just to play for the sake of having fun this quarantine. We must keep in mind that there are still restrictions to be observed for minors not to get involved into those kind of games. This thing is really hard to be taken care of for we cannot monitor 24/7 the activities of the minors we have in home. But if we educate them and have awareness of clearing things out that they must not get involved in online gambling while they are still minors, maybe they would understand.

[jrrsparkles]

Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.

No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

[Janation]

Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.

Children will find their way around KYCs.

You know how smart and intelligent these kids are nowadays. They could just borrow or make their parents sign up in these sites with KYCs and they will use it. There are cases that these parents are already signed up in these sites and their children are just playing using that. The internet is the most influential place for them, they could even buy information they could use there, it is that easy for them. Then there are those sites without KYCs.

[Bitcoinislife09]

Crypto gambling sites got more popular due to its convenience and no KYC policies, even if there is KYC minors can use fake identities to pass the restrictions of gambling sites but the legit players who care about their privacy will boycott such gambling sites.Gambling is business not a service so people should be careful with what they are involving and if minor does that means the care taker should be the sole responsible for that.

I think that can be the reason for people to playing gambling on the crypto gambling website because they don't have to fills KYC to hide their identity. Even if there is a casino that requires KYC, some gamblers will not have a problem because they know that they will protect their data. So that can make the minors will try to join in that casino because usually if a website restricts the number of the members, they really care about their safety, and the casino will protect them from the hackers. It's like the VIP elite of the casino, which only people who have a good track record can join.

No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

Agree, I think it is not really a big requirement even in some big gambling websites having a KYC is not a requirement at all I guess gambling websites already realize this, and most of the gamblers are not willing to do KYC just for the gambling websites security, etc. Maybe age restriction could be a thing at some point anyone could do gambling online since it doesn't require any identifications. There are already thousands of gambling websites online and probably a big percentage of it is not legitimate or not legal and probably scam websites giving such information is really risky at some point since required ID could easily be used in other scams, also websites online and operating worldwide on the internet you can't really make a complaint about a scam website or their company if they leak your identity since it would make a big hassle if the company is from a different country.

A lot of people would recommend gambling websites that is trusted here in the forum and still don't required KYC.

[maydna]

~snip~

No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

Before someone can have VIP status, they need to verify themselves because they can get many benefits that are not available for regular members. Many people think that they don't have to be a VIP and prefer to be regular members because they don't need that status. They only want to play gambling and make money if they are lucky.

~snip~

Children will find their way around KYCs.

You know how smart and intelligent these kids are nowadays. They could just borrow or make their parents sign up in these sites with KYCs and they will use it. There are cases that these parents are already signed up in these sites and their children are just playing using that. The internet is the most influential place for them, they could even buy information they could use there, it is that easy for them. Then there are those sites without KYCs.

I am sure the kids can do that easily because they know how to get that. Suppose an adult person leaves his computer open with the last activity that person did, and then the kids who sit at the front of the computer will continue to use that computer, and they can mess it because I got that with some of my nephews. Imagine if we leave the computer with the gambling site is the last thing that we did, the kids will know, and they will find how to play the games. When it comes to the internet, they can get anything they want by browse many websites.

[Janation]

~snip~

~snip~

I am sure the kids can do that easily because they know how to get that. Suppose an adult person leaves his computer open with the last activity that person did, and then the kids who sit at the front of the computer will continue to use that computer, and they can mess it because I got that with some of my nephews. Imagine if we leave the computer with the gambling site is the last thing that we did, the kids will know, and they will find how to play the games. When it comes to the internet, they can get anything they want by browse many websites.

At his point all the parents can do is restrict their internet usage.

There are a lot of softwares they can get for them to restrict sites that can influence them into gambling or maybe the adult industry. Each ISPs, as far as I know have these Parental Controls or Parental Locks they can take advantage of so they could monitor or block these sites.

[nakamura12]

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

[jrrsparkles]

No matter how much reputed the crypto gambling site, still it is not good to provide your personal details because here money involves a lot and I don't think any VIP will pass KYC because their privacy is at risk and can be in more danger if someone got access to those details because hack is pretty common in the internet world.

Before someone can have VIP status, they need to verify themselves because they can get many benefits that are not available for regular members. Many people think that they don't have to be a VIP and prefer to be regular members because they don't need that status. They only want to play gambling and make money if they are lucky.

No need for verification they just need to take the subscription to enjoy the perks and in online gambling it is not going to make much different and many of the gambling sites doesn't have such feature as well because here everyone treated equally.

[maydna]

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At his point all the parents can do is restrict their internet usage.

There are a lot of softwares they can get for them to restrict sites that can influence them into gambling or maybe the adult industry. Each ISPs, as far as I know have these Parental Controls or Parental Locks they can take advantage of so they could monitor or block these sites.

If their kids have a mobile phone, they can restrict them from visiting the gambling site, porn site, or another site, so the kids will not have a chance to visit on that site. The parents need to check their kids' mobile phones and advise their kids to use their mobile phones for good things. I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

~snip~

No need for verification they just need to take the subscription to enjoy the perks and in online gambling it is not going to make much different and many of the gambling sites doesn't have such feature as well because here everyone treated equally.

Yes, you are right. Many gambling sites are created for giving another pleasure for people, so they can use the gambling site to having fun or spend their free time. But people finally lose control while they play gambling, and many of them are losing their money too.

[peter0425]

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

That will surely lower the player of each sites if they implement KYC,remember specially gamblers don't wanna reveal their details thats why there are many Gambling sites that taking advantage of this,they don't ask for KYC until you won big amount and they will surely bugged you after that.

The best way still is the help pf family,watching their family member to not become addicted in gambling would be a  big help.

[Google+]

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

That will surely lower the player of each sites if they implement KYC,remember specially gamblers don't wanna reveal their details thats why there are many Gambling sites that taking advantage of this,they don't ask for KYC until you won big amount and they will surely bugged you after that.

The best way still is the help pf family,watching their family member to not become addicted in gambling would be a  big help.

well that is the risk that occurs when someone does KYC at a gambling place because your data and identity cannot be hidden anymore even though such an identity must be kept secret and not just anyone knows, so I think look for a gambling place that doesn't need to do KYC like a place. Fortunejack gambling which can be an alternative gambling place.

[swogerino]

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

I agree.This is the correct way to even prevent smart kids from accessing these gambling sites.The parents can use software in which to tell the DNS server that any website with the words for example “bet,slot,casino” to redirect to an error message.Also the parents should make sure the children to use not an account with administrator privileges as this guarantees they cannot install software such Vpn to bypass the DNS redirect.

[erikoy]

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

[robelneo]

There is a way to make it more strict about age restriction and that is to implement KYC but many people don't like KYC which will defeat the purpose of being anonymous since cryptocurrency is created that way. Limiting the access to the internet is also possible to prevent under age gambling on casinos.

The parents or the guardians should be the one to do that because they are the one that has constant communication and control over the child's behavior, the online casinos can only perceive that those who are joining and playing are matured gambling, the gambling casinos cannot prevent access because people can always use VPN, gambling sites will always allow people who want to play and be entertained.

[Sadlife]

This is important. Gambling is not something which allows everyone to engage into it. There's that risk of being addicted into it. If ever kids will not be prohibited to enter or play in  gambling sites, not to be exaggerated, but this might push young people to steal in order for them to play. They don't have source of income more likely, so it is really possible.

Gambling sites should really pay attention into this matter by strengthening the requirements for a player to be able to enter the room. KYC sometimes is not enough and I hope there would be a way to regulate and avoid this possibility. And if there is already, I would like to know how it is done.

That is all good and well, but it would take our freedom as well. For instance there are some country's that prohibits online gambling, and in order to escape that restriction, a gambler needs an anonymous site that doesn't require private data to play on it. So in the end, there's no evidence if the government questions his networth.

Maybe, parents should educate and watch their children more often, rather than blaming the gambling site that's only there for entertainment.

[wxa7115]

While I approve the age restrictions as it is known that your brain is not fully formed until your mid-20s, this means a kid and anyone underage is not ready to take responsible decisions with their money and they need to be restricted to get access to casinos.

In the case of physical casinos this is very easy to do as you could ask people to show you an identification in the case they seem to be too young to be there, but when it comes to online casinos this gets more complex, many fiat casinos allow you to play without forcing you to go through KYC and they only do that once you try to cash out, this allows minors to gamble all they want as long as they do not want to withdraw and when you add cryptocurrencies to the mix this seems like one of those issues that has no easy solution.

Gambling and not withdrawing doesn't make sense. No one wants to come up empty.

But yes its always going to be complicated for an online casino to check their users. Minors can just use anyone's ID especially if the system doesn't use sophisticated AI that wil check faces and documents.

It doesn't make sense but since when the actions of those that are addicted to gambling makes sense? Someone that is addicted to gambling and that he is too young to gamble in online fiat casinos will play without a doubt with the hope to win but since they cannot control themselves they will probably keep betting until their balance hits zero and they will have no money to withdraw, then they will deposit money in their accounts and the cycle will begin again.

It is my opinion that this is precisely why casinos do not ask for KYC in the beginning and only do so when you're trying to withdraw because they know they can obtain a lot of money out of those people and still follow the regulations.

[Janation]

I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

[Debonaire217]

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

No matter what are kids our doing, as long as they are open in media and on the internet, they can still learn how to gamble. Mobile Legends game for example, they might ask for us to buy them diamond (game credits) for them to have their favorite skins or whatever it is that could make the game even better. But the fact that game creators are doing the best way they can to increase the game's profitability, they are implicitly adding gambling in mystery boxes and skins. This has the element of gambling which consists of multipliers and chances to win something. In the end, if we didn't supervised our children, they might be used to it, and the real gambling soon.

Just an advise to always learn what our kids our doing so we know if they are being exposed early to gambling.

[Janation]

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

No matter what are kids our doing, as long as they are open in media and on the internet, they can still learn how to gamble. Mobile Legends game for example, they might ask for us to buy them diamond (game credits) for them to have their favorite skins or whatever it is that could make the game even better. But the fact that game creators are doing the best way they can to increase the game's profitability, they are implicitly adding gambling in mystery boxes and skins. This has the element of gambling which consists of multipliers and chances to win something. In the end, if we didn't supervised our children, they might be used to it, and the real gambling soon.

Just an advise to always learn what our kids our doing so we know if they are being exposed early to gambling.

Since we are talking about Mobile Legends.

I don't know if a lot of people know about this but while browsing their menus and some of their promotions, I found this page where they give some points to players and they can use it to bet on a team whenever there is a tournament. It is sports betting and that in-game currencies might be a way for them to buy a skin in the game.

[maydna]

I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

I am sure kids can bypass that because they can search for the right way to break it and visit what they want. It is not just about how we can anticipate them to visit on something that they should not yet visit, but how we can stay beside them to explain what they can visit and what they should not visit.

I agree that communicating will be the solution to them, so they can understand that when they are online, there will be many bad things that can harm their minds, especially because they are still kids.

[semobo]

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

[Questat]

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

[carlfebz2]

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

This is a problem definitely on parenting not a total mistake of gambling houses that do offer anonymous kind of betting specially here on on crypto.They do indeed making profits due to high demand.

They wont really changed up policies or rules just because to save up some minors? Hell no. Even traditional gambling sites wont really make up some changes due to this matter.

Gambling of minors arent really something new on where there are really young minds do get involved even in fiat casinos and how much more into this crypto market.

[bitzizzix]

I think it's all about how the parents can discuss with their kids, so the kids will not abuse the mobile phones for anything bad that can make them lose control.

I think this will be the easiest and best way for the parents.

While surfing the internet at the office, I am seeing these videos about bypassing administrators and I had an idea of searching if children can bypass parental restrictions in some applications and there are a lot of videos on it on the internet, mostly on YouTube which can be easily accessed by the children. I guess parents really need to talk to their children about this. Communicating is one of the best ways to keep a relationship healthy, as they says it.

I am sure kids can bypass that because they can search for the right way to break it and visit what they want. It is not just about how we can anticipate them to visit on something that they should not yet visit, but how we can stay beside them to explain what they can visit and what they should not visit.

I agree that communicating will be the solution to them, so they can understand that when they are online, there will be many bad things that can harm their minds, especially because they are still kids.

It is very important to always communicate with children and provide good or positive and useful things according to their age, and to be supervised when children play with cellphones or other devices and check them.
At present many gambling sites do not have a good level of security and there are many other sites that can damage and affect their mind which should not be done because they are not old enough, and still pay attention to their associations because children's minds are still very impressionable and have curiosity and try .

[maydna]

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It is very important to always communicate with children and provide good or positive and useful things according to their age, and to be supervised when children play with cellphones or other devices and check them.
At present many gambling sites do not have a good level of security and there are many other sites that can damage and affect their mind which should not be done because they are not old enough, and still pay attention to their associations because children's minds are still very impressionable and have curiosity and try .

But we don't have to force them to communicate because we need to give them space to have their privacy, especially when our kids are a teenager. But we always supervised them, even if they don't know that, so if something happens to them, and they need to say something, we always beside them.

If they still kids, we can apply a strict mode in their mobile phone, so when they click links on their phone, the links will not redirect to the destination website. That can prevent them from visiting on a strange website, including preventing them from knowing gambling or porn. Supervised kids will need a big effort because their minds still like a white paper, which is clean.

[bobyhodob]

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

that is why there are so many online gambling circulating in cyberspace because they realize that only that way can get a lot of profit and they can also install some code to make gamblers always lose, basically when they have a cryptocurrency-based online gambling place they can get a lot of money .

[Questat]

I agree with you kids must be guided accordingly and this is the basic responsibility of the parents and should not be passed on the gambling site. As we all know that these matter is for adult only though some of the gambling sites are doing well like doing KYC to every users but as much as gambling site wanted to earn they allow playing in their site without KYC. Besides, KYC to some gamblers are important because it may be subject to SYTEALING OF IDENTITY when sites database will get hack.

Gambling sites are created to make profits and they are not doing any charity services so parents should care about their kids for not doing any adult activities.While most of the crypto gambling users are here for better anonymity so enforcing KYC will make them into less profitable situation so gambling sites doesn't have to be blamed for violating their laws by kids.

That's definitely the point, crypto casinos operate for profit and they see the crypto market as an opportunity as there's no strict regulation for them and they can accommodate any kind of gamblers as they are offers anonymous gambling, so it will not easy be change, that's been the norms of years already.

This is a problem definitely on parenting not a total mistake of gambling houses that do offer anonymous kind of betting specially here on on crypto.They do indeed making profits due to high demand.

They wont really changed up policies or rules just because to save up some minors? Hell no. Even traditional gambling sites wont really make up some changes due to this matter.

Gambling of minors arent really something new on where there are really young minds do get involved even in fiat casinos and how much more into this crypto market.

True, because if they would change, they would have done it before, and the government will already intervene directing the casinos with their mandate.