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September 05, 2020, 08:24:15 AM
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To be honest, I don't know how you people deal with addiction and I think that makes it clear since I also heard that most of them don't know or don't realize that they are already addicted to gambling. I guess the government stepping up is also a good thing but I just hope they don't really strict policies at it might lead for other gamblers to go to other online casinos.

One more thing about the government stepping up is that it is just another form of making gambling more main stream. It's about protecting the ones that can't protect themself and we should respect that. For me I see it very similar to when opening a brokerage account. Once you decide you want to go into investing and trading you need to understand that there are huge risk involved that could lose you all your money.  Filling out a questionaire before opening an account to check your understanding seems a good way to do protect us. If you can show you are experienced then of course those safety measures shouldn't apply.
If we are a responsible gambler we will not having any difficulties about these things and the government will no need to make sure actions.

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September 05, 2020, 08:48:41 AM
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To be honest, I don't know how you people deal with addiction and I think that makes it clear since I also heard that most of them don't know or don't realize that they are already addicted to gambling. I guess the government stepping up is also a good thing but I just hope they don't really strict policies at it might lead for other gamblers to go to other online casinos.

One more thing about the government stepping up is that it is just another form of making gambling more main stream. It's about protecting the ones that can't protect themself and we should respect that. For me I see it very similar to when opening a brokerage account. Once you decide you want to go into investing and trading you need to understand that there are huge risk involved that could lose you all your money.  Filling out a questionaire before opening an account to check your understanding seems a good way to do protect us. If you can show you are experienced then of course those safety measures shouldn't apply.
If we are a responsible gambler we will not having any difficulties about these things and the government will no need to make sure actions.
Yes you're correct: the government wouldn't have in any way bring into action the "prove that you can take the loss". Although as much as we have addicted gamblers among us the government move was in the right direction.

Kindly take a look at this thread to ascertain the injuries co-gamblers had inflected themselves with. Greatest Gambling losers some of these victims died while some with severe health issues, at this junction if you can't "prove you can take a loss" then stay low.

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September 05, 2020, 11:49:24 AM
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It seems to me that the government can not influence the dependent players... After all, there are a huge number of gambling-sites in different jurisdictions, where anyone can play!

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September 05, 2020, 01:48:01 PM
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This has a pro and cons both. Good for those who earning is not much and only have limited money for their survival so in such case losing in gabling will prove to be fatal. On other hand those who have lot of money now will have to also prove it and they might just stay without it.

I don't think those people with a lot of money would be going to face an ombudsman just to prove that he himself can take those losses. If I am one I would just visit other gambling sites or maybe just create another account where I could gamble or maybe just play with other people not known by the government. They would stay gambling but I don't think they would be staying at the same online casino though.

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September 06, 2020, 05:01:32 AM
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This has a pro and cons both. Good for those who earning is not much and only have limited money for their survival so in such case losing in gabling will prove to be fatal. On other hand those who have lot of money now will have to also prove it and they might just stay without it.

I don't think those people with a lot of money would be going to face an ombudsman just to prove that he himself can take those losses. If I am one I would just visit other gambling sites or maybe just create another account where I could gamble or maybe just play with other people not known by the government. They would stay gambling but I don't think they would be staying at the same online casino though.

Those people will not visit the ombudsman because I think they will feel embarrassed, and they don't want others to know if they have a problem with gambling. And if those they are forced to meet the ombudsman, he will cover his face and don't let others know. I think if I were on those people, I will stop for a while and not visiting on the gambling websites. I need to calm myself down, and I will try to do something else because the media will search for other news and blow up to the public. We can stay away from gambling until the situations are conducive to come back again in the gambling websites, but with having control for ourselves.
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September 06, 2020, 07:12:49 AM
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It seems to me that the government can not influence the dependent players... After all, there are a huge number of gambling-sites in different jurisdictions, where anyone can play!

That's actually a silly idea but let them implement and see if it will yield results in their favor I can easily prove a loss, would they use a lie detector to prove that I can take a loss and how they are going to trace people playing online, their rules is very vague and unclear, it will not stand and will just a waste o time trying to catch people who will prove them right.

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September 06, 2020, 08:49:19 AM
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It seems to me that the government can not influence the dependent players... After all, there are a huge number of gambling-sites in different jurisdictions, where anyone can play!

That's actually a silly idea but let them implement and see if it will yield results in their favor I can easily prove a loss, would they use a lie detector to prove that I can take a loss and how they are going to trace people playing online, their rules is very vague and unclear, it will not stand and will just a waste o time trying to catch people who will prove them right.

If we talk about my country (Russia), casinos have long been banned here... But in fact nothing has changed - just everyone started playing on the Internet! Grin And now it's already impossible to fight with it! So it seems to me that any state fight against such things is useless!

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September 06, 2020, 12:26:02 PM
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To be honest, I don't know how you people deal with addiction and I think that makes it clear since I also heard that most of them don't know or don't realize that they are already addicted to gambling. I guess the government stepping up is also a good thing but I just hope they don't really strict policies at it might lead for other gamblers to go to other online casinos.

One more thing about the government stepping up is that it is just another form of making gambling more main stream. It's about protecting the ones that can't protect themself and we should respect that. For me I see it very similar to when opening a brokerage account. Once you decide you want to go into investing and trading you need to understand that there are huge risk involved that could lose you all your money.  Filling out a questionaire before opening an account to check your understanding seems a good way to do protect us. If you can show you are experienced then of course those safety measures shouldn't apply.
If we are a responsible gambler we will not having any difficulties about these things and the government will no need to make sure actions.
Yes you're correct: the government wouldn't have in any way bring into action the "prove that you can take the loss". Although as much as we have addicted gamblers among us the government move was in the right direction.

Kindly take a look at this thread to ascertain the injuries co-gamblers had inflected themselves with. Greatest Gambling losers some of these victims died while some with severe health issues, at this junction if you can't "prove you can take a loss" then stay low.

I think it wasn't the right way to prove that someone can really take the lost. Its just that there are other ways to do it. And anyone can really avoid there law, or make themselves appear like "they can take the loss", a lot of loopholes but totally agree with the government's move ause they are in the right direction. They are trying to create a prevention but its not that polish yet.

I suggest that they should focus more on professional help programs for gambling addicts.  Its also a way of stopping the problem, preventing more damage, and helping the gamblers to assess themselves. In this way, its more solid, more research base and actually helped to stop a gambling addict.   

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September 06, 2020, 12:28:36 PM
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It seems to me that the government can not influence the dependent players... After all, there are a huge number of gambling-sites in different jurisdictions, where anyone can play!

That's actually a silly idea but let them implement and see if it will yield results in their favor I can easily prove a loss, would they use a lie detector to prove that I can take a loss and how they are going to trace people playing online, their rules is very vague and unclear, it will not stand and will just a waste o time trying to catch people who will prove them right.

If we talk about my country (Russia), casinos have long been banned here... But in fact nothing has changed - just everyone started playing on the Internet! Grin And now it's already impossible to fight with it! So it seems to me that any state fight against such things is useless!

So you are saying that you can still gamble without any problem?

Are you constantly gambling in crypto casinos here? I'm just curious as I believe Russia's government is very strict with their regulation.

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