Do you think COVID19 is a scam?

[BADecker]

^^^ The virus doesn't exist that anyone knows of. It might exist. But nobody really knows. Proper tests haven't been done to prove it. But if they have been done, nobody can seem to find them. So we don't know that the tests have been done, and we don't know if the virus is real. However...

The pandemic is real. If you call the pandemic by the name "Covid-19," then Covid-19 is real. Only thing is, it isn't a viral pandemic.

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[proTECH77]

No, covid-19 is not a scam which many community has confirmed  the virus as a deadly virus that is spreading from one place to another. Many cases of covid-19 has been reported to different countries of the world which people are be advice to wear facemask and washing of my hands to prevent the virus.
Poland president just confirmed positive in covid-19 in the country that is making some of the citizens to worry. Covid-19 is real not a scam.

[franky1]

^^^ The virus doesn't exist that anyone knows of. It might exist. But nobody really knows. Proper tests haven't been done to prove it. But if they have been done, nobody can seem to find them. So we don't know that the tests have been done, and we don't know if the virus is real. However...

The pandemic is real. If you call the pandemic by the name "Covid-19," then Covid-19 is real. Only thing is, it isn't a viral pandemic.

you have been linked the many studies. there are thousands of studies that show the sequence they found. they have done the kosh rivers and bell to triple confirm.
many countries have then independantly done it for further confirmation

if you dare look and search you will find the evidence but it involves you not just reading conspiracy sites.
check out new york in march/april where they had to hire refrigerated vans to hold all the dead because there were more excess deaths than usual. far more than a hospital can cope with.

other hospitals in other states too.
i know your stuck reading conspiracies based on outdated january snippits of info. but its october and you have had plenty of time to update yourself

you cant pretend you have not been told to update yourself. in every topic your stupidity is noted,, you have been corrected and asked to update yourself.

[BADecker]

^^^ The virus doesn't exist that anyone knows of. It might exist. But nobody really knows. Proper tests haven't been done to prove it. But if they have been done, nobody can seem to find them. So we don't know that the tests have been done, and we don't know if the virus is real. However...

The pandemic is real. If you call the pandemic by the name "Covid-19," then Covid-19 is real. Only thing is, it isn't a viral pandemic.

you have been linked the many studies. there are thousands of studies that show the sequence they found. they have done the kosh rivers and bell to triple confirm.
many countries have then independantly done it for further confirmation

if you dare look and search you will find the evidence but it involves you not just reading conspiracy sites.
check out new york in march/april where they had to hire refrigerated vans to hold all the dead because there were more excess deaths than usual. far more than a hospital can cope with.

other hospitals in other states too.
i know your stuck reading conspiracies based on outdated january snippits of info. but its october and you have had plenty of time to update yourself

you cant pretend you have not been told to update yourself. in every topic your stupidity is noted,, you have been corrected and asked to update yourself.

There is one major thing that is lacking in all the studies. The things that are NOT lacking are plenty of statements saying the studies were done. The thing that IS lacking is the studies being shown to have been done.

Here is an example of the difference.

"Then we used the River's upgrade of the Kock Postulates to isolate the virus. Through this process we found Covid-19 (or whatever)."

or

"We got a dead patient named XXXXXX XXXXXX.
"We swabbed his back throat with a Dkiuhtghih Brand swab.
"Next we added a hjvuighseh solution to the swabbed material.
"Then we used such-and-such filter paper to strain out most of the particulates that were larger than viruses would be.
"The resulting materials were centrifuged by a Briggs & Stratton X51 test-tube centrifuge.
"Then we blah, blah, blah, on and on until we found the virus.
"Next we went through the complete process of infecting 125 test subjects with the virus we isolated. The list of the names of the subjects are here: Joe, Fred, Barbara... . And here are their addresses so that you can subpoena them to court for cross examination that they really didn't get sick from their injection.
"And here are our names and addresses and phones... we who did the isolating of the virus, and the location of our lab.
"Further, we will be happy to re-isolate for you in front of the camera to show that we really found a virus, blah, blah, blah."

Do you see the difference yet franky1? The first example is all over the reports. Perhaps you have the second example somewhere. Please link to a report, show us where in the report the isolation info exists, maybe even print it in a quote box, and show us the names, addresses, and phones of the researchers. Dr. Kaufman will be able to tell if the report shows true isolation info. And anybody will be able to cross examine all the researchers in court.

Not hard, right? I will see that Dr. Kaufman gets the info. And he and I will see that other professionals are brought in to double check the info.

Still waiting.

[franky1]

kaufman was outdated. and debunked within days of plastering his propaganda

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anyway.. just one example
human sample
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31978945/
more detail https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092803/

then the passing the sample to another lab to then do the koch test to confirm
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/02/28/2020.02.07.939389.full.pdf

and yes it describes al the tech and lab equipment and extraction methods. it even has the chest xrays of the patient and the virus under the microscope
then the otherone also describes all the tech and lab equipment and method of infecting  healthy mouse.

heck they even have pictures of the virus in the mouse and even pictures off its heart and lungs thy disected

you have been shown all this but then you played ignorant saying you dont understand it because its too sciency for you.
you then spun around and wanted a simplified review of it. and when that was presented you said it was too simple and not a scientific study

so here is your mission.if you want to keep pretending you want to see a study that proves the virus existance. stop being ignorant and learn what the reports say

there are loads of them. but requires you to actually bother looking

[BADecker]

kaufman was outdated. and debunked within days of plastering his propaganda

..
anyway.. just one example
human sample
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31978945/
more detail https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092803/

then the passing the sample to another lab to then do the koch test to confirm
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/02/28/2020.02.07.939389.full.pdf

and yes it describes al the tech and lab equipment and extraction methods. it even has the chest xrays of the patient and the virus under the microscope
then the otherone also describes all the tech and lab equipment and method of infecting  healthy mouse.

heck they even have pictures of the virus in the mouse and even pictures off its heart and lungs thy disected

you have been shown all this but then you played ignorant saying you dont understand it because its too sciency for you.
you then spun around and wanted a simplified review of it. and when that was presented you said it was too simple and not a scientific study

so here is your mission.if you want to keep pretending you want to see a study that proves the virus existance. stop being ignorant and learn what the reports say

there are loads of them. but requires you to actually bother looking

Your example links are incomplete in three major ways:
1. They are incomplete as far as River's or any standard procedure not being followed in its entirety;
2. There isn't enough detail so that another researcher could follow even one process to get the same results;
3. Can't find the infecting of hundreds test subjects; please point it out to us with the link, the page or title of reference, and some of the wording.

I don't expect the researchers to have intentionally falsified information. But their info is incomplete. Being incomplete, what did they really isolate? Show anybody how they might have known what they isolated, not what they said they isolated.

Thanks, buddy.

[hornetsnest]

No, covid-19 is not a scam which many community has confirmed  the virus as a deadly virus that is spreading from one place to another. Many cases of covid-19 has been reported to different countries of the world which people are be advice to wear facemask and washing of my hands to prevent the virus.
Poland president just confirmed positive in covid-19 in the country that is making some of the citizens to worry. Covid-19 is real not a scam.

The SARS-CoV-2 strain is highly contagious just like winter influenza but no more lethal re mortality rate but there is an underlying scheme using the "virus" as a pretext in order to “build back better”... in their image of course

[franky1]

Your example links are incomplete in three major ways:
1. They are incomplete as far as River's or any standard procedure not being followed in its entirety;
2. There isn't enough detail so that another researcher could follow even one process to get the same results;
3. Can't find the infecting of hundreds test subjects; please point it out to us with the link, the page or title of reference, and some of the wording.

I don't expect the researchers to have intentionally falsified information. But their info is incomplete. Being incomplete, what did they really isolate? Show anybody how they might have known what they isolated, not what they said they isolated.

Thanks, buddy.

firstly. it does pass koch rivers and even bell.. you been told that.
secondly researchers can copy the results because they do have all the details needed. thats why there are so many other studies you can find around the internet. i even linked you to  listing that shows 2000+ studies all following it. months ago i linked you the database of 2000+ where its been performed
that database now has over 80k and they use the same method and also other methods and come to same results which double backs up koch,rivers and bell that the initial method works
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/?term=txid2697049%5BOrganism:noexp%5D%20NOT%200[Mbases

fourthly mice, rats, snakes, cats, and even monkeys has been used as test subjects. yep there are thousands of studies you are ignoring

if you are still unsure they even have contact info of those doing the studies. so go learn something straight from the source

[BayAreaCoins]

Everyone around me is faking covid trying to avoid their probation/parole officers... lol

Then you have others using it to get out of work and hoping they get paid even more free money...

[BADecker]

Your example links are incomplete in three major ways:
1. They are incomplete as far as River's or any standard procedure not being followed in its entirety;
2. There isn't enough detail so that another researcher could follow even one process to get the same results;
3. Can't find the infecting of hundreds test subjects; please point it out to us with the link, the page or title of reference, and some of the wording.

I don't expect the researchers to have intentionally falsified information. But their info is incomplete. Being incomplete, what did they really isolate? Show anybody how they might have known what they isolated, not what they said they isolated.

Thanks, buddy.

firstly. it does pass koch rivers and even bell.. you been told that.

That's the point. Saying it over and over is political science. Political science is the science of using lies and manipulation. What we want is proof of medical science, not political science.

secondly researchers can copy the results because they do have all the details needed. thats why there are so many other studies you can find around the internet. i even linked you to  listing that shows 2000+ studies all following it. months ago i linked you the database of 2000+ where its been performed
that database now has over 80k and they use the same method and also other methods and come to same results which double backs up koch,rivers and bell that the initial method works
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/?term=txid2697049%5BOrganism:noexp%5D%20NOT%200[Mbases

That's exactly the point. Nobody wants duplicitous, ambiguous studies... studies that can produce a variety of results because of the way they are incomplete. Anybody using the studies you have outlined, and coming up with the same results, have done more and differently than the studies suggest. Why? Because the studies themselves are incomplete for finding the same result every time.

You have been asked over and over to show the details down to the types companies who make the testing machines, the names of the researchers and their contact points, and the locations of the test subjects on whom the virus isolated was tested. But you seem to be unwilling to divulge this very important stuff. All you seem to be able to say is, "We have bunches of studies that show this or that." But no researcher can get enough info from any of the studies to be able to duplicate them as they were originally done, or a way to find the people who did the studies and wrote the reports, plus test subject info.

Or do you want to fill in the blanks, now?

fourthly mice, rats, snakes, cats, and even monkeys has been used as test subjects. yep there are thousands of studies you are ignoring

if you are still unsure they even have contact info of those doing the studies. so go learn something straight from the source

This is part of the most important things you have said... "mice, rats, snakes, cats, and even monkeys." These animals show a variety of different results than humans used in studies. Yet all of these are DNA/genetically in the range of 95% the same as humans.

The supposed new virus is about 80% the same as any average cold virus. This means that any immune system T-cells that are confronted with the new virus, easily know how to fight it. In other words, if there is something new, it is not the Covid virus... because the Covid virus is similar enough to what we have been naturally fighting all along. So, what is making people sick?

The point is, show us the human test trials on the supposed virus, or show your political science troll ID pass. Are they paying you enough to troll for them? They must be, because you keep on trolling with talk, but no serious info.

[franky1]

you have the links to the doctors involved. maybe contact them. get the answers you want

but wait badecker does not want answers he wants ignorance and stupidity to defend his nonsense
poor badecker. cant accept he got debunked and so is playing stupid to reinforce his ignorance

[BADecker]

^^^ You're the professional. You have the connections. Since you can't even produce the Covid isolate test subjects, do you think that they can? Lol.

[tvbcof]

Everyone around me is faking covid trying to avoid their probation/parole officers... lol

Do you live in a halfway house or something?

Non-violent criminals (e.g., the Green River Killer...one of the most prolific serial killers in history...) are being released in order to make room for people caught not wearing masks because 'covid19' is so dangerous.  I don't think that most criminals have much to worry about.  The political climate is such that they are valuable participants in AntiFA 'fiery but peaceful' protests against 'white supremacists.'

I'm glad I got out of the U.S. and to a safe place the only problem is that the 'brutal strongman' will shoot people in the head for 'not wearing their masks properly' according to the oh so reliable Western mainstream media.  By the way, the one incident that is being referred to was when a drunk farmer went crazy and started attacking people with a scythe and ended up with a bullet in the head.  At least that is the other side versus CNN's reporting, and the one I find it much more credible based on my experience here in a certain English speaking SE Asian country.  Once you get out of the major metro areas (or even in pockets within them) masks are basically hanging around peoples necks if they exist at all.

BTW, it's a white-lie above about Gary Ridgeway.  The supreme court in Washington State decided against the policy which could have freed Gary Ridgeway...by a 5 to 4 vote.  And even if one justice switched the vote 'people are sure' that there would have been additional 'stuff' to not allow the release Ridgeway.  Even if so, I would say that the U.S. had collecively turned into total nutso-ville.

https://www.khq.com/coronavirus/q-check-did-the-green-river-killer-gary-ridgway-really-come-close-to-release/article_55a58d00-89ac-11ea-8891-5ba16342202c.html

[Mauser]

you have the links to the doctors involved. maybe contact them. get the answers you want

but wait badecker does not want answers he wants ignorance and stupidity to defend his nonsense
poor badecker. cant accept he got debunked and so is playing stupid to reinforce his ignorance

Don't get trigger by him. He is doing the same thing for years. I am pretty sure he doesn't even believe the things himself,just trying to get some reactions from people.

Corona is obviously not a scam. I think by now everybody knows someone who was infected by the virus.

[tvbcof]

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Corona is obviously not a scam. I think by now everybody knows someone who was infected by the virus.

About 60% of people could not get this years cold because they had one within the last few years.  50% of the remianing had 'covid19' (aka, this year's cold) and didn't even know it.

So yeah, not only does everyone 'know someone' who was infected, most people actually ARE one!

I tried to get the damn thing.  No way to know whether I succeeded or not since there are zero symptoms for most people.  A few times I had a little bit of a sore throat for a few hours and that very well could have been 'covid-19'.  Cannot use tests to discover whether I managed to get infected either since most of the tests are deeply flawed or phony because the 'pandemic' itself is so phony.

[Tash]

Attention attention urgent news just in Covid total out of control. It also killed of the flu, UK mainstream news
https://web.archive.org/web/20201026120218/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8875201/Has-Covid-killed-flu.html
Does that mean it is now isolated?

[hornetsnest]

Even an imbecile high on a mix of koolade and potato chips can see the whole "pandemic crisis" is NOT about a virus.

[hornetsnest]

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Corona is obviously not a scam. I think by now everybody knows someone who was infected by the virus.

About 60% of people could not get this years cold because they had one within the last few years.  50% of the remianing had 'covid19' (aka, this year's cold) and didn't even know it.

So yeah, not only does everyone 'know someone' who was infected, most people actually ARE one!

I tried to get the damn thing.  No way to know whether I succeeded or not since there are zero symptoms for most people.  A few times I had a little bit of a sore throat for a few hours and that very well could have been 'covid-19'.  Cannot use tests to discover whether I managed to get infected either since most of the tests are deeply flawed or phony because the 'pandemic' itself is so phony.

[Natsuu]

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Corona is obviously not a scam. I think by now everybody knows someone who was infected by the virus.

About 60% of people could not get this years cold because they had one within the last few years.  50% of the remianing had 'covid19' (aka, this year's cold) and didn't even know it.

So yeah, not only does everyone 'know someone' who was infected, most people actually ARE one!

I tried to get the damn thing.  No way to know whether I succeeded or not since there are zero symptoms for most people.  A few times I had a little bit of a sore throat for a few hours and that very well could have been 'covid-19'.  Cannot use tests to discover whether I managed to get infected either since most of the tests are deeply flawed or phony because the 'pandemic' itself is so phony.

Are you saying that colds can only obtained once every year?, so this viruses or bacterias act like "hey, Ive already infected that one last feb, let's come back next year to infect him again" 

Where on earth did you actually get the data regarding that percentage you're talking about?, can you please give us the research, studies, or even scientific evidence that will prove that claim of yours.

But I do acknowledge your bravery to test the virus by putting yourself in the situation, but just keep your body to yourself after you did that, just please don't put other innocent people at a situation not favorable to them. Can you please inform us about your findings by making a new thread regarding your experience, I'll be willing to read and respond to your post with that matter.

[franky1]

the tvbcof linked study in september was revised because the initial may study was only using stats from things like the diamond process in february. thus that was a case of high infection due to lack of restrictions.
however then updating it with studies in the proceeding months, they seen high severity symptoms decreased and the number of people infected also decreased due to social distancing and masks reducing viral load.
it does not say nor suggest nor even hint that the world is at any herd immunity number. so it debunks tvbcofs narrative that 'everyone is one'
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as for natsuu reply
covid is a new virus and thats why its not in the same close strain lineage to say sars 2003
take the difference between apes to humans. 99% the same

so claming covid is the same as flu becasue both are corona's is like saying apes are same as man because both are sapiens

but we al can see the wild difference between apes and humans.
so yea corona is a family/grouping of viruses 99% similar. but the 1% difference is alot
EG human/ape is not like a snake. just like corona is not ebola

those that had flu in previous years are not then immortal/immune to covid. they do say having recently gotten over a flu triggers your immune response to have lots of random defenses in your body to be able to attack a pathogen a little sooner.(soldiers still on guard. dont know the enemy but just being on guard can lessen the attack)
but this is not as beneficial as simply not getting as much viral load in the first place.
(less invaders at the castle gates)

in short you are better off getting low viral load infected by social distancing/mask wearing which has better odds of reducing the severity risk. rather than relying on previous infections from other pathogens that are not the same 'race'/strain from defending you while sucking face with sick people thinking viral load is not important.(facepalm)