Do you think COVID19 is a scam?

[BADecker]

^^^ You and I know that there are millions if not billions of viruses all over the place. Somebody has taken flu and turned it into Covid-for-profit. Even the CDC has stopped recording data on flu and pneumonia. Why? Because they have Covid. Since Covid, flu and pneumonia have all but disappeared.

Back in the late 1950s and early '60's, polio suddenly disappeared. Everybody thought that the Salk or Sabin vaccines had been successful. Now we find that they weren't successful, and that the medical simply changed the symptoms.

Great news! The flu and pneumonia are gone! Of course, we have a formerly non-existent Covid-19 to take their place. Do you think that the medical, maybe, simply changed the symptoms designations like they did with polio?

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[TwitchySeal]

Here's the preliminary study on the recent variants that have turned up:

Estimated transmissibility and severity of novel SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern 202012/01 in England

[BADecker]

Back in July, the CDC stopped their standard collecting of data on flu and pneumonia. Why? They said that there was so little flu and pneumonia that it wasn't practical to keep on collecting the data. Of course, Covid had sky-rocketed, exactly at the same time. Do you think that the medical might have simply rewritten the symptoms, so that the new symptoms said "Covid," but didn't include flu and pneumonia?

Of course, doing this is becoming more and more difficult. There are too many doctors and nurses these days, who would recognize such a change. So, the CDC lumped them all together under the heading of "Covid/Flu/Pneumonia..." with the instruction to call it "Covid." Check it out. It's right in their literature for the doctors and nurses.

This isn't the first time the medical did something like this. Back in the 1950s, polio was a big problem. Dr. Jonas Salk came out with his famous polio medicine. It was a flop, and most people acknowledge this, now. Then, Sabin came out with his vaccine. It was proving to be a flop as well, so the medical saved themselves by re-defining the symptoms of polio.

In 1961, suddenly there were hardly any cases of polio. Polio had been cured. Salk? Sabin? Whatever! The medical had cured polio. Few people noticed that incidents of spinal meningitis sky-rocked. The medical was careful to keep SM quiet in the news.

If you look close, what you will find is that the symptoms of Covid are the same as symptoms would be in someone who got sick with the flu plus a touch of pneumonia, or pneumonia plus a touch of the flu.

The medical wants more money. And they are screwing us and governments out of $billions ($trillions?) to get it. The people can give us their money through government taxation.

[philipma1957]

Back in July, the CDC stopped their standard collecting of data on flu and pneumonia. Why? They said that there was so little flu and pneumonia that it wasn't practical to keep on collecting the data. Of course, Covid had sky-rocketed, exactly at the same time. Do you think that the medical might have simply rewritten the symptoms, so that the new symptoms said "Covid," but didn't include flu and pneumonia?

Of course, doing this is becoming more and more difficult. There are too many doctors and nurses these days, who would recognize such a change. So, the CDC lumped them all together under the heading of "Covid/Flu/Pneumonia..." with the instruction to call it "Covid." Check it out. It's right in their literature for the doctors and nurses.

This isn't the first time the medical did something like this. Back in the 1950s, polio was a big problem. Dr. Jonas Salk came out with his famous polio medicine. It was a flop, and most people acknowledge this, now. Then, Sabin came out with his vaccine. It was proving to be a flop as well, so the medical saved themselves by re-defining the symptoms of polio.

In 1961, suddenly there were hardly any cases of polio. Polio had been cured. Salk? Sabin? Whatever! The medical had cured polio. Few people noticed that incidents of spinal meningitis sky-rocked. The medical was careful to keep SM quiet in the news.

If you look close, what you will find is that the symptoms of Covid are the same as symptoms would be in someone who got sick with the flu plus a touch of pneumonia, or pneumonia plus a touch of the flu.

The medical wants more money. And they are screwing us and governments out of $billions ($trillions?) to get it. The people can give us their money through government taxation.

Shut up.

Last year 2.8 million died in USA
This year 3.2 million will die in USA

the worst year in USA history.

Today 11 months and three weeks to the day my wife caught covid we got fith set of lung scans for her.

Her lungs are less fucked but still fucked up. More treatment is scheduled for her.

Do me a favor and instead of saying bla bla bla. when it comes to covid-19 say a prayer to Jesus for my wife and the tens of thousands of other people that are still suffering from the damage this illness has caused them.

It is not fake and we did not have an extra 400,000 flu deaths.

[BayAreaCoins]

Today 11 months and three weeks to the day my wife caught covid we got fith set of lung scans for her.

That feels like a lie, fake or at the very least grossly exaggerated, regardless, I will pray for your wife, your family, and you.  

So your wife caught COVID on January 4th, 2020?



I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe.  COVID-19 had zero deaths on Jan 4 and basically wasn't even a thing... even in China.



Regardless, I hope she's able to milk it for all it's worth.  I'd try to sell the story to CNN if I was y'all.

Merry Christmas.

[tvbcof]

Today 11 months and three weeks to the day my wife caught covid we got fith set of lung scans for her.

That feels like a lie, fake or at the very least grossly exaggerated, regardless, I will pray for your wife, your family, and you.  

So your wife caught COVID on January 4th, 2020?

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I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe.  COVID-19 had zero deaths on Jan 4 and basically wasn't even a thing... even in China.

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Regardless, I hope she's able to milk it for all it's worth.  I'd try to sell the story to CNN if I was y'all.

They call it 'lying for your truth' and it is not only acceptable, it's basically a thing of virtue to some of these people.

Before the age of science (from around the early 1800's until the middle 1900's) this 'truth is defined as whatever helps my position' idea was the standard.  In the current age of scientism it's that way again.  Fortunately many liars are highly incompetent, and half the time they are not only trying to 'do the right thing for society' but trying to add to their wallet as a side effect.  So ya, 'milk it baby!'

[Tash]

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Today 11 months and three weeks to the day my wife caught covid we got fith set of lung scans for her.

Her lungs are less fucked but still fucked up. More treatment is scheduled for her.

Embarrassing, anyone who is truly sick (not scam positive test) is literally to stupid to eat proper, healthy.
A bad nutrition habit so bad to actually get sick and in need of medical interventions in not something worthy telling the world, it is a shame.

[mindrust]

Embarrassing, anyone who is truly sick (not scam positive test) is literally to stupid to eat proper, healthy.
A bad nutrition habit so bad to actually get sick and in need of medical interventions in not something worthy telling the world, it is a shame.

Perfectly healthy people without and illness or whatsoever can catch covid-19 too. There are many examples. It is probably more about of your body's viral load and how you catch the virus than anything else. I mean being together with an infected person in a small room would probably fuck you up.

[BADecker]

Embarrassing, anyone who is truly sick (not scam positive test) is literally to stupid to eat proper, healthy.
A bad nutrition habit so bad to actually get sick and in need of medical interventions in not something worthy telling the world, it is a shame.

Perfectly healthy people without and illness or whatsoever can catch covid-19 too. There are many examples. It is probably more about of your body's viral load and how you catch the virus than anything else. I mean being together with an infected person in a small room would probably fuck you up.

First, there aren't any perfectly healthy people.

Second, Covid is all over the world. Essentially all people have had it and gotten well from it, most of them not even realizing they had it. The millions and billions of other viruses around, within and without, show this.

Third, nutrition companies/people who have good nutrition that they sell to people, often have warnings that go along with their nutrients, that if you are taking medicine, don't take the nutrients. This is because the nutrition makes a person sensitive enough to things like bacteria and viruses, that can also cause the person to react to medication.

Stick with the nutrition, because that is what the body is made out of. You can never take a bunch of medicine and live off it. All sickness comes from nutrition deficiency. If a medicine works, it's simply that the body accidentally fights of the sickness while it is trying to fight off the medicine.

[Tash]

Embarrassing, anyone who is truly sick (not scam positive test) is literally to stupid to eat proper, healthy.
A bad nutrition habit so bad to actually get sick and in need of medical interventions in not something worthy telling the world, it is a shame.

Perfectly healthy people without and illness or whatsoever can catch covid-19 too. There are many examples. It is probably more about of your body's viral load and how you catch the virus than anything else. I mean being together with an infected person in a small room would probably fuck you up.

Ten, "infected", (cough) sick people what do anything. The only way to transmit is by injection (needle, mosquito).
Frequency's will knock anyone of the socks faster than you can say muh. For the most part you can not see, hear or feel them. (except audible, visible range, 60Ghz, 94Ghz…..)
Anyone disputing is a moron, taking 10 x-rays in short time will flatting anyone, no matter how healthy. Nether would it be comfortable spending extended time in a mikrowave oven.
Microwave weapons have been used numerous times, the most recent the China, India skirmish a little while ago.

btw
https://newspunch.com/poland-big-tech-will-face-2-2-million-fines-whenever-they-censor-free-speech/

[Natsuu]

Embarrassing, anyone who is truly sick (not scam positive test) is literally to stupid to eat proper, healthy.
A bad nutrition habit so bad to actually get sick and in need of medical interventions in not something worthy telling the world, it is a shame.

Perfectly healthy people without and illness or whatsoever can catch covid-19 too. There are many examples. It is probably more about of your body's viral load and how you catch the virus than anything else. I mean being together with an infected person in a small room would probably fuck you up.

Ten, "infected", (cough) sick people what do anything. The only way to transmit is by injection (needle, mosquito).
Frequency's will knock anyone of the socks faster than you can say muh. For the most part you can not see, hear or feel them. (except audible, visible range, 60Ghz, 94Ghz…..)
Anyone disputing is a moron, taking 10 x-rays in short time will flatting anyone, no matter how healthy. Nether would it be comfortable spending extended time in a mikrowave oven.
Microwave weapons have been used numerous times, the most recent the China, India skirmish a little while ago.

btw
https://newspunch.com/poland-big-tech-will-face-2-2-million-fines-whenever-they-censor-free-speech/

Okay? where is the connection of it with the virus? where? where?

What is the connection of your reply to the statement above? is it somewhere we need to decipher or something to get your point? or you just randomly pout nonsense?

Second, Covid is all over the world. Essentially all people have had it and gotten well from it, most of them not even realizing they had it. The millions and billions of other viruses around, within and without, show this.

No, I haven't got it, you know why? cause we use precautions, we follow rules and regulations commanded by our government instead of fighting over stupid things like is China the one who starts the situation or is mask really helpful.

And don't generalize the situation from y'all cause most neighboring countries of China, had already defeated the virus and are already going back to normal, yet you guys still fighting for "Freedom" just to not wear protective measurements against the virus.

Third, nutrition companies/people who have good nutrition that they sell to people, often have warnings that go along with their nutrients, that if you are taking medicine, don't take the nutrients. This is because nutrition makes a person sensitive enough to things like bacteria and viruses, which can also cause the person to react to the medication.

You do know that you can drink your "nutrients" with your medicines right? just with proper guidance and proper dosage of those "Nutrients" cause as we all know (don't know about you) that you might get overdosed for some medicine already have some nutrients in your prescriptions.

In addition, some "nutrients" do have some negative reactions to other medicines, that's why it is not recommended by other doctors. But in our country just to cite, you may ask your doctors if you can drink some nutrients with your medicine and most of the time, they allow it.

[tvbcof]

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btw
https://newspunch.com/poland-big-tech-will-face-2-2-million-fines-whenever-they-censor-free-speech/

Well fuck me running!  I might have to add Poland and Belarus to my to-evaluate list of '3rd option' countries if things go badly south here in a certain English speaking SE Asian country.

If Joogle, Facefuck, Twatter, etc voluntarily left Poland it would probably be the best thing which ever happened for the Poles.  And if native startups pop up to fill the vacuum I'll be one of the early customers, particularly if the government carries through on it's promising path which respects individual liberties.  I never had any social media accounts except for Google which, in my situation, was fairly unavoidable.

[TwitchySeal]

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btw
https://newspunch.com/poland-big-tech-will-face-2-2-million-fines-whenever-they-censor-free-speech/

Well fuck me running!  I might have to add Poland and Belarus to my to-evaluate list of '3rd option' countries if things go badly south here in a certain English speaking SE Asian country.

If Joogle, Facefuck, Twatter, etc voluntarily left Poland it would probably be the best thing which ever happened for the Poles.  And if native startups pop up to fill the vacuum I'll be one of the early customers, particularly if the government carries through on it's promising path which respects individual liberties.  I never had any social media accounts except for Google which, in my situation, was fairly unavoidable.

You should add China and Russia to your list as well.  Their governments do a great job of enforcing what is or is not posted on the internet.

[tvbcof]

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btw
https://newspunch.com/poland-big-tech-will-face-2-2-million-fines-whenever-they-censor-free-speech/

Well fuck me running!  I might have to add Poland and Belarus to my to-evaluate list of '3rd option' countries if things go badly south here in a certain English speaking SE Asian country.

If Joogle, Facefuck, Twatter, etc voluntarily left Poland it would probably be the best thing which ever happened for the Poles.  And if native startups pop up to fill the vacuum I'll be one of the early customers, particularly if the government carries through on it's promising path which respects individual liberties.  I never had any social media accounts except for Google which, in my situation, was fairly unavoidable.

You should add China and Russia to your list as well.  Their governments do a great job of enforcing what is or is not posted on the internet.

So, massive corp/govs censoring and deleting admittedly factual content because it could 'help anti-vaxxers' is in your mind 'freedom of speech', and a country to allows the censored person to sue the corporation for blocking the perfectly factual and accurate content is 'repressive', eh?

Orwell is rolling over in his grave.

[TwitchySeal]

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btw
https://newspunch.com/poland-big-tech-will-face-2-2-million-fines-whenever-they-censor-free-speech/

Well fuck me running!  I might have to add Poland and Belarus to my to-evaluate list of '3rd option' countries if things go badly south here in a certain English speaking SE Asian country.

If Joogle, Facefuck, Twatter, etc voluntarily left Poland it would probably be the best thing which ever happened for the Poles.  And if native startups pop up to fill the vacuum I'll be one of the early customers, particularly if the government carries through on it's promising path which respects individual liberties.  I never had any social media accounts except for Google which, in my situation, was fairly unavoidable.

You should add China and Russia to your list as well.  Their governments do a great job of enforcing what is or is not posted on the internet.

So, massive corp/govs censoring and deleting admittedly factual content because it could 'help anti-vaxxers' is in your mind 'freedom of speech', and a country to allows the censored person to sue the corporation for blocking the perfectly factual and accurate content is 'repressive', eh?

Orwell is rolling over in his grave.

I think the government should have little say when it comes to enforcing how a business moderates online user content, especially when it comes to anything political due to the obvious conflict of interest.  

In my opinion the business, not the government, should decide and let the market respond.  

I'm being sincere in saying you should look at China and Russia if you're considering moving to Poland because of their authoritarian government.

[BADecker]

They say they are not doing anything wrong. But, really, they are. They're charging way to much for a glass ov bear; hic'. No wonder there's only a few people there.


'We're Not Doing Anything Wrong': This Pennsylvania Brewery Refuses To Obey...

And it isn't alone. Pennsylvania has banned indoor dining through the end of the year, but dozens of businesses are banding together to defy the mandate.

It's a few days before Christmas in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, and there is plenty of room at Seven Sirens Brewing Company.

The brewery's 7,000-square-foot tasting room has a fire code capacity of 320, but during happy hour on Monday, there are only about a dozen patrons scattered around the place, sitting in ones and twos at socially distanced tables and sipping beers served by two masked bartenders. Whether they know it or not, everyone here is engaged in an act of civil disobedience, challenging Pennsylvania's ban on indoor drinking and dining that will continue through New Year's Day, at least. It's a policy that assumes all establishments in the state are equally risky—that a tiny, crowded diner or coffee shop is no different than a massive, mostly empty beer hall.

"We're not doing anything wrong," says co-owner Jordan Serulneck, a 32-year old with a full beard and surprisingly cheerful attitude given everything that's happened since Seven Sirens opened in mid-February—just weeks before the pandemic hit. "It was the best timing," he says with a weary laugh.

When Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf ordered indoor dining to close in March, Serulneck dutifully shut his doors. But what started out as a temporary shutdown was extended several times before the restrictions were finally lifted during the summer. When a new statewide shutdown of bars, restaurants, and breweries was ordered for the Wednesday night before the Thanksgiving holiday—typically a major night for social gatherings—Seven Sirens refused to yield. The newest ban on indoor drinking and dining went into effect on December 12, but 10 days later the beer is still flowing here.

[tvbcof]

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So, massive corp/govs censoring and deleting admittedly factual content because it could 'help anti-vaxxers' is in your mind 'freedom of speech', and a country to allows the censored person to sue the corporation for blocking the perfectly factual and accurate content is 'repressive', eh?

Orwell is rolling over in his grave.

I think the government should have little say when it comes to enforcing how a business moderates online user content, especially when it comes to anything political due to the obvious conflict of interest.  

In my opinion the business, not the government, should decide and let the market respond.  

So if a private prison corporation had some extra room they should be able to pick up people off the street to get up to 100% capacity?

As described, Poland is not telling these international corporations what to do.  All Poland is doing is allowing her citizens to avail themselves of the court systems (which they pay for with taxes) in order to attempt to uphold their rights and liberties.  It's 100% freedom of choice whether the corporations wish to adhere to the national norms vis-a-vis human and civil rights, or whether their desire to 'control the narrative' overrides.

Of course the international corporations are also free to pack up and leave the country if that is their desire.  There are plenty of totalitarian countries who will support their anti-liberty methods (China, U.S., Russia, etc.)

I'm being sincere in saying you should look at China and Russia if you're considering moving to Poland because of their authoritarian government.

Whatever.  If slavish support for international corporations is 'freedom' and support for individual liberties is 'authoritarian' to you then it nicely explains our respective positions and why we don't see eye-to-eye on things.  In fact, as 'liberal' drifted toward your way of looking at the world I stepped off the train and no longer identify with that group.

[TwitchySeal]

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So, massive corp/govs censoring and deleting admittedly factual content because it could 'help anti-vaxxers' is in your mind 'freedom of speech', and a country to allows the censored person to sue the corporation for blocking the perfectly factual and accurate content is 'repressive', eh?

Orwell is rolling over in his grave.

I think the government should have little say when it comes to enforcing how a business moderates online user content, especially when it comes to anything political due to the obvious conflict of interest.  

In my opinion the business, not the government, should decide and let the market respond.  

So if a private prison corporation had some extra room they should be able to pick up people off the street to get up to 100% capacity?

As described, Poland is not telling these international corporations what to do.  All Poland is doing is allowing her citizens to avail themselves of the court systems (which they pay for with taxes) in order to attempt to uphold their rights and liberties.  It's 100% freedom of choice whether the corporations wish to adhere to the national norms vis-a-vis human and civil rights, or whether their desire to 'control the narrative' overrides.

Of course the international corporations are also free to pack up and leave the country if that is their desire.  There are plenty of totalitarian countries who will support their anti-liberty methods (China, U.S., Russia, etc.)

I'm being sincere in saying you should look at China and Russia if you're considering moving to Poland because of their authoritarian government.

Whatever.  If slavish support for international corporations is 'freedom' and support for individual liberties is 'authoritarian' to you then it nicely explains our respective positions and why we don't see eye-to-eye on things.  In fact, as 'liberal' drifted toward your way of looking at the world I stepped off the train and no longer identify with that group.

The only individual liberty violation would be the guys who created these apps being forced to run them the way the federal government thinks best all the way down to what posts they are allowed to remove from their own platform, rather than themselves.  It's their business, not yours.  If you want to use it, you have to follow their rules.  Use it, don't use it, create your own- those are your freedoms.

Think about it objectively, you aren't just arguing to force Twitter to stop removing posts that you don't think should be removed - you're arguing that future administrations that you may not agree with as much should have the same power.  That's no roll the federal government should take on imo.

[tvbcof]

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As described, Poland is not telling these international corporations what to do.  All Poland is doing is allowing her citizens to avail themselves of the court systems (which they pay for with taxes) in order to attempt to uphold their rights and liberties.  It's 100% freedom of choice whether the corporations wish to adhere to the national norms vis-a-vis human and civil rights, or whether their desire to 'control the narrative' overrides.
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The only individual liberty violation would be the guys who created these apps being forced to run them the way the federal government thinks best all the way down to what posts they are allowed to remove from their own platform, rather than themselves.  It's their business, not yours.  If you want to use it, you have to follow their rules.  Use it, don't use it, create your own- those are your freedoms.

Think about it objectively, you aren't just arguing to force Twitter to stop removing posts that you don't think should be removed - you're arguing that future administrations that you may not agree with as much should have the same power.  That's no roll the federal government should take on imo.

Nope.  Obviously wrong.  The government is completely ambivalent about what is and is not posted on social media.  The government is simply providing a method by which private citizens can obtain relief from multinational corporate interests who are operating within their jurisdiction.

I do understand why support of individual citizens is anathema to people who favor 'globalism' and a one-world dictatorship.  I just disagree with this mode of governance and believe that it will create a highly unpleasant world to live in.  Look no farther than the lockdowns for a peek into what these people have planned.

The first obligation of a democratic government is to protect their society against predatory exploitation.  As the 'covid-19' hoax demonstrates in spades, multinational corporate interests can rapidly change a society beyond recognition if they are allowed to ignore certain norms such as freedom of speech and implement their own control of the narrative.  If Poland really does buck the trend and stand up for the liberty of her own people in the face of the pressures which are brought to bare against those who try, it might be a place to consider living as I vote with my feet and with my pocketbook.

[TwitchySeal]

The government is completely ambivalent about what is and is not posted on social media.  The government is simply providing a method by which private citizens can obtain relief from multinational corporate interests who are operating within their jurisdiction.

The largest social media platforms are American companies.  

I'm fine with the government dealing with stuff like data protection or requiring companies to follow certain procedures to prevent children accessing certain types of content.  They should have nothing to do with how a private American company chooses to deal with politics. If they want to call the president a liar, or ban the president, or delete user posts they don't like, they should be able to.  It's their company.