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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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January 31, 2023, 09:52:49 PM
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I am of the strong believe that Manchester city and Pep guadiola aren’t giving good representation of themselves just selling players of or loaning them off due to misunderstanding.

Joao cancelo is an amazing player and I can confirm this, he has been at the top of his game and for Manchester city to treat him like that means no one is safe in the squad.
It is not right for a player to be disrespectful to his coach, no matter how good he is. His attitude in the training ground was despiteful and it shouldn't be condoned with an open heart. Not that I am in support of how they sold him out. But let it serve as a lesson to others that you can grow wings in a club, thinking you can't be replaced or let go. Every player is under the instructions of his coach no matter how good you are on the pitch.

There are still other players that can fill in Joao Cancelo's position at Manchester City. So his replacement is never a problem for them

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January 31, 2023, 09:54:13 PM
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When did Cancelo becomes coach that he will tell Gadiola when and how to feature him in a given match?,  and for not featuring him in that Arsenal game, Guardiola is currently the only Man City coach that I know and he only knows and is entitled to choose the right player to for his games
It's much better that Cancelo is either loaned or sold out earlier the better, than letting him stay while the issues may escalate, which may cause a bit kind of distraction to the entire team.

The sale ans move will definitely affect Manchester City and the performance they have without Cancelo on the pitch.
He shouldn't moved regardlessly, he should have communicated with the Manager and if the manager said no to his pleas he should have just abide by whatever the coach has to say and conclude.

Either ways, he will be a great addition for Bayern Munich
That will be addition to the attacking players they already have. Sure they will also extends Cancelos career.

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January 31, 2023, 10:52:57 PM
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I am of the strong believe that Manchester city and Pep guadiola aren’t giving good representation of themselves just selling players of or loaning them off due to misunderstanding.

Joao cancelo is an amazing player and I can confirm this, he has been at the top of his game and for Manchester city to treat him like that means no one is safe in the squad.
Cancelo has been involved in a conflict with pep and so, pep didn't trust him anymore. The decision was already taken by loaning him to another club. Even if he was a great player but since he has a problem with pep and then, cancel shall not hope to be chosen for the starting line up. i think that this can become a sanction for him. Cancelo must try to accept the fact that he was useless for manchester city. that's why city was loaning him to another club. I think that would better if guardiola was selling him permanently to another club. Loaning him pretty much the same like still gave him false hope

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January 31, 2023, 10:58:25 PM
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Joao cancelo is an amazing player and I can confirm this, he has been at the top of his game and for Manchester city to treat him like that means no one is safe in the squad.
Cancelo's decision was unanimous so that Man City would let him go and he would go to Bayern Munich. Indeed, in the world of football, no matter how good the players are, if they don't talk to each other or if their relationship is not good, then one of them will let go and leave the club. Because, it also won't be good if you are in a club with gaps and hostility in it. The relationship between Pep and Cancelo has soured since 2 months ago, especially after the World Cup. Cancelo felt he was not appreciated because he was on the bench several times. Meanwhile, Pep felt that Cancelo did not respect himself, especially at the training center. And the existence of some disagreements in it makes the two of them not talk to each other. Of course, this might affect Man City's strength, however, if that's the case, it means that Pep Guardiola already has his own tactics without Cancelo in the future.

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January 31, 2023, 11:17:57 PM
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And now the ones who have to fight through difficult times are Chelsea and Liverpool. these two teams now have to struggle to go through the same process as Arsenal in past years. But everyone's expectations are of course expecting the team they like to recover quickly. and that's normal. so it's no wonder that many blues fans will expect Chelsea to recover to their best form quickly.
Arsenal haven't won the EPL since 2004, that is about 19 years or so ago, Liverpool didn't win the EPL for 30 years before Klopp guided them to the title and some successful years of recent, whilst Chelsea have been a very successful team in the last decade and a little more, thus comparing Arsenal's woes/wait for another EPL title with Chelsea and Liverpool's dip in form this season is pretty unfair.

Having said that, the season is far from over, thus Liverpool and Chelsea could still finish on a high note, not that i expect them to win the EPL title, but they could bounce back and finish the season in a much better way. I don't expect them to stay down for quite a long time, if it doesn't happen this season, then it will next season, Chelsea are currently undergoing an overhaul of their team, and Liverpool are expected to acquire quite a lot of players in the summer, thus i guess the future is bright.
Arsenal have gone a long time without lifting the Premier league title, 19 years is a very long time without an EPL trophy so winning it this season will be like a blessing to the club but the season is still long and it is advisable to take it one game at a time, maintaining the good team spirit and staying consistent for the rest of the season. Arsenal are leading the league halfway into the season, at this point top four seems sure already and I understand if Arteta decides to focus all the energy and strength in the league.

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January 31, 2023, 11:29:18 PM
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I am of the strong believe that Manchester city and Pep guadiola aren’t giving good representation of themselves just selling players of or loaning them off due to misunderstanding.

Joao cancelo is an amazing player and I can confirm this, he has been at the top of his game and for Manchester city to treat him like that means no one is safe in the squad.
Well for Guardiola, the discipline and the mutual respect between him and his players and between the players themselves are very important to the balance of the team and for the good results too. PSG for example has a lot of big names but they are some conflicts between some of them and their results aren't that top for a team that has a budget way more than his rivals together..
I am not supporting his attitude but I understand it. Taking such decisions means that he has better options or at least a similar one or another tactics.. We will see.

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January 31, 2023, 11:33:45 PM
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I am of the strong believe that Manchester city and Pep guadiola aren’t giving good representation of themselves just selling players of or loaning them off due to misunderstanding.

Joao cancelo is an amazing player and I can confirm this, he has been at the top of his game and for Manchester City to treat him like that means no one is safe in the squad.
It is not right for a player to be disrespectful to his coach, no matter how good he is. His attitude in the training ground was despiteful and it shouldn't be condoned with an open heart. Not that I am in support of how they sold him out. But let it serve as a lesson to others that you can grow wings in a club, thinking you can't be replaced or let go. Every player is under the instructions of his coach no matter how good you are on the pitch.

There are still other players that can fill in Joao Cancels's position at Manchester City. So his replacement is never a problem for them

What I have noticed with players and coach conflict is that it is a situation where the first is exercising their right to control the behaviour and action of the latter since he/she is the officiating coach of the team, and players on the other hand seem to become over confident and demanding when they know there are playing good football and covering up their positions effectively,  mostly strikers who have many goals record in their career in the club.
*When this becomes the case then the interest of the club should be placed as a priority and not the egos of both the player and coach.
*it's bad enough for a player to act disrespectfully to the coach but that also can be managed if the player is a valuable asset to the club, some form of punishment is cool but not a loan off.
*the absent of the player has reduced the performance and the club and affected their standing this season.
Replacing a top player such as Joao at this stage of the season will not be that easy for man city even though there are readily available replacements for the player.
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January 31, 2023, 11:53:48 PM
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The sale ans move will definitely affect Manchester City and the performance they have without Cancelo on the pitch.
He shouldn't moved regardlessly, he should have communicated with the Manager and if the manager said no to his pleas he should have just abide by whatever the coach has to say and conclude.
It seems that it would not be good either if forced to stay there, because the relationship between the two of them had already deteriorated. I'm sure Man City has also lobbied and is trying to defend it, but here Cancelo really seems to want to move, moreover, there is Bayern who are ready to accept him even though on loan. As a player, of course, he wants to be a player in the main lineup, and as a coach, Guardiola certainly wants all players to adhere to his tactics so that it runs smoothly. Maybe this has been the best decision for both of them.

It is reported that several players may become Cancelo's replacements such as Ben Chilwell. But actually, Man City still has other good players to fill Cancelo's position, as is rumored, namely Rico Lewis or Nathan Ake. So let's just wait and see how Man City looks next, I'm sure Pep Guardiola can manage his team to stay strong. Moreover, soon they will face Tottenham and several other big matches. And the UCL will also soon continue.

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January 31, 2023, 11:55:31 PM
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The sale ans and move will definitely affect Manchester City and the performance they have without Cancelo on the pitch.
He shouldn't moved regardlessly, he should have communicated with the Manager and if the manager said no to his pleas he should have just abide by whatever the coach has to say and conclude.
It may affect City performance, but I think it is not a big problem for Guardiola. Man City still has enough defenders, Guardiola won't be difficult to rotate them.

Regarding Cancelo's problem with Guardiola, I don't know how big the problem is. But if a coach has a problem with a player, it probably brings impacts to the whole squad. So, it is the right decision to loan Cancelo to Bayern Munich. It will be good for both player and the coach. Cancelo will get the chance to play, while Guardiola can focus on managing Man City squad without any bad issues.

Either ways, he will be a great addition for Bayern Munich
That will be addition to the attacking players they already have. Sure they will also extends Cancelos career.
Sure. Cancelo is a good defender and he is still in the golden age of a professional footballer (28 years old). He is also a player who can play in several positions (Right-Back, Left-Back, Right Midfield). He should be very useful for Bayern Munich.


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The signing of Marcel Sabitzer will actually boost the performance of manchester united especially their midfield, you know as a coach you need to be very strategic when it comes to making decisions if  Ten Hag does not buy players then it will have an effect on the performance of the club, and Donny van de Beek will be replaced by the new signing am not a manchester fan but also happy about the signing.
we cannot comply with the wish of fans if the strategy was complete to implement. The fans must see what is next, if not good then they must complain to the official. The MU situation is very crucial for a coach to find a new player to replace Ericson, so far Marcel Sabitzer is a good man for that position, If he is well, then no harm to continue to buy it in the next session.

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Everton are entering a new period with a new manager from now on. However I don't expect it to make a positive impact in the Arsenal match already. There is a significant level of gap between these teams. Arsenal have fought really amazingly so far and Everton shouldn't be a big hindrance for them. Playing the match in Goodison Park shouldn't also change anything for them. Despite Jesus' absence Arsenal are still doing great. Nketiah has filled his place in a very good way as well.

This is all the result of a solid teamwork of course. Because even when the times they had their striker not scoring a goal they still continued to get nice wins in the league.
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And now the ones who have to fight through difficult times are Chelsea and Liverpool. these two teams now have to struggle to go through the same process as Arsenal in past years. But everyone's expectations are of course expecting the team they like to recover quickly. and that's normal. so it's no wonder that many blues fans will expect Chelsea to recover to their best form quickly.
Arsenal haven't won the EPL since 2004, that is about 19 years or so ago, Liverpool didn't win the EPL for 30 years before Klopp guided them to the title and some successful years of recent, whilst Chelsea have been a very successful team in the last decade and a little more, thus comparing Arsenal's woes/wait for another EPL title with Chelsea and Liverpool's dip in form this season is pretty unfair.

Having said that, the season is far from over, thus Liverpool and Chelsea could still finish on a high note, not that i expect them to win the EPL title, but they could bounce back and finish the season in a much better way. I don't expect them to stay down for quite a long time, if it doesn't happen this season, then it will next season, Chelsea are currently undergoing an overhaul of their team, and Liverpool are expected to acquire quite a lot of players in the summer, thus i guess the future is bright.
Arsenal have gone a long time without lifting the Premier league title, 19 years is a very long time without an EPL trophy so winning it this season will be like a blessing to the club but the season is still long and it is advisable to take it one game at a time, maintaining the good team spirit and staying consistent for the rest of the season. Arsenal are leading the league halfway into the season, at this point top four seems sure already and I understand if Arteta decides to focus all the energy and strength in the league.
i think arsenal wont  be looking to focus their energy elsewhere because as you have already stated above that this is a golden opportunity for them to secure the league title which have lacked them for a long period of 19years. But the only problem now is if they can withstand the pressure of the Manchester City team who is famous for winning the tittle in this kind of situations. Arsenal are currently leading but they know that Manchester City is red hot on their tall so winning of games will be very crucial even if it's a one nil Victory and arteta should try and strengthen the team by signing players that would improve the activeness of their current winning form because they need to be in their best to win the English title.
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And now the ones who have to fight through difficult times are Chelsea and Liverpool. these two teams now have to struggle to go through the same process as Arsenal in past years. But everyone's expectations are of course expecting the team they like to recover quickly. and that's normal. so it's no wonder that many blues fans will expect Chelsea to recover to their best form quickly.
Arsenal haven't won the EPL since 2004, that is about 19 years or so ago, Liverpool didn't win the EPL for 30 years before Klopp guided them to the title and some successful years of recent, whilst Chelsea have been a very successful team in the last decade and a little more, thus comparing Arsenal's woes/wait for another EPL title with Chelsea and Liverpool's dip in form this season is pretty unfair.

Having said that, the season is far from over, thus Liverpool and Chelsea could still finish on a high note, not that i expect them to win the EPL title, but they could bounce back and finish the season in a much better way. I don't expect them to stay down for quite a long time, if it doesn't happen this season, then it will next season, Chelsea are currently undergoing an overhaul of their team, and Liverpool are expected to acquire quite a lot of players in the summer, thus i guess the future is bright.
Arsenal have gone a long time without lifting the Premier league title, 19 years is a very long time without an EPL trophy so winning it this season will be like a blessing to the club but the season is still long and it is advisable to take it one game at a time, maintaining the good team spirit and staying consistent for the rest of the season. Arsenal are leading the league halfway into the season, at this point top four seems sure already and I understand if Arteta decides to focus all the energy and strength in the league.
i think arsenal wont  be looking to focus their energy elsewhere because as you have already stated above that this is a golden opportunity for them to secure the league title which have lacked them for a long period of 19years. But the only problem now is if they can withstand the pressure of the Manchester City team who is famous for winning the tittle in this kind of situations. Arsenal are currently leading but they know that Manchester City is red hot on their tall so winning of games will be very crucial even if it's a one nil Victory and arteta should try and strengthen the team by signing players that would improve the activeness of their current winning form because they need to be in their best to win the English title.

That's very true, arsenal should definitely get the maximum number of points from their next matches to at least keep the gap at 8 points, Manchester city team is very strong and can really turn the table on arsenal but also arteta squad are very determined to win the title this year and break the curse

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When did Cancelo becomes coach that he will tell Gadiola when and how to feature him in a given match?,  and for not featuring him in that Arsenal game, Guardiola is currently the only Man City coach that I know and he only knows and is entitled to choose the right player to for his games
It's much better that Cancelo is either loaned or sold out earlier the better, than letting him stay while the issues may escalate, which may cause a bit kind of distraction to the entire team.
It is true that all decisions that are best for the team rest with the coach and Joao Cancelo should not fuss with Pep Guardiola on this matter. But fortunately Joao Cancelo took quick steps to leave immediately while leaving Man City heading to Bayern Munich and did not stir up the atmosphere in the Manchester City lobby.

Anyway, I'm still wondering where Ruben Dias is? it's been a long time since I saw him in the starting line-up until now, I saw his name on the bench, but why hasn't he started the match since the start of the game and it seems he isn't injured either.

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February 01, 2023, 02:45:27 AM
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It is true that all decisions that are best for the team rest with the coach and Joao Cancelo should not fuss with Pep Guardiola on this matter. But fortunately Joao Cancelo took quick steps to leave immediately while leaving Man City heading to Bayern Munich and did not stir up the atmosphere in the Manchester City lobby.

Anyway, I'm still wondering where Ruben Dias is? it's been a long time since I saw him in the starting line-up until now, I saw his name on the bench, but why hasn't he started the match since the start of the game and it seems he isn't injured either.
Situations for Cancelo and Ruben Dias changed so quickly. Just two seasons ago, Ruben won Premier League player of the season award and now lost his position in Manchester City.

Same for Cancelo, a few months ago, he was a favorite swing back of Pep Guardiola and he did played very impressively in early of season. Now, his poor performance with Portugal in World Cup 2022 affected his position in Manchester City too.

With coach like Pep, players can lose their positions very quickly. Zlatan in Barcelona is another example and it can be from their poorer performance, conflict with Pep or just big changes in Pep philosophy.

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February 01, 2023, 03:40:18 AM
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Situations for Cancelo and Ruben Dias changed so quickly. Just two seasons ago, Ruben won Premier League player of the season award and now lost his position in Manchester City.

Same for Cancelo, a few months ago, he was a favorite swing back of Pep Guardiola and he did played very impressively in early of season. Now, his poor performance with Portugal in World Cup 2022 affected his position in Manchester City too.

With coach like Pep, players can lose their positions very quickly. Zlatan in Barcelona is another example and it can be from their poorer performance, conflict with Pep or just big changes in Pep philosophy.
Pep Guardiola hasn't permanent starting eleven in Manchester City, current situation with João Cancelo he has been priority and favorite player filled in left or right defender and this time he loss position in starting eleven and loan to Bayern Munich. For defender Manchester City have many option but I don't think Pep Guardiola has many option in left or fight side except Nathan Aké, Kyle Walker and new young player Rico Lewis.

Actually João Cancelo has not really bad performance with Manchester City in Primer League season 2022/2023 after have appearance 17 matches and has 2 goals contribution, in Champion League João Cancelo have played 6 matches and seems he still get regular position under Pep Guardiola.

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It is true that all decisions that are best for the team rest with the coach and Joao Cancelo should not fuss with Pep Guardiola on this matter. But fortunately Joao Cancelo took quick steps to leave immediately while leaving Man City heading to Bayern Munich and did not stir up the atmosphere in the Manchester City lobby.

Anyway, I'm still wondering where Ruben Dias is? it's been a long time since I saw him in the starting line-up until now, I saw his name on the bench, but why hasn't he started the match since the start of the game and it seems he isn't injured either.

Trying to Analyze Ruben Dias and Joao Cancelo prior to the FIFA World Cup, during the Fifa World Cup and after that. Have you considered how much efforts they have put in themselves.
Ruben Dias wasn't much of a regular starter, I won't say the same from Joao Cancelo, he's drop could be as a result of change of attitude during the training or underground beef.

Cancelo wasn't used too well for Portugal National Team, he also has a low rate compared to that Paris St-German right full back and Dalot as second option. Used as a left full back and wasn't up to the regular Joao Cancelo I use to know.

Pep Guardiola is a complete tactician,he wouldn't drop anyone for no just case, he has his reasons which I believe will be kept private.

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February 01, 2023, 04:22:32 AM
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Pep Guardiola hasn't permanent starting eleven in Manchester City, current situation with João Cancelo he has been priority and favorite player filled in left or right defender and this time he loss position in starting eleven and loan to Bayern Munich. For defender Manchester City have many option but I don't think Pep Guardiola has many option in left or fight side except Nathan Aké, Kyle Walker and new young player Rico Lewis.

Actually João Cancelo has not really bad performance with Manchester City in Primer League season 2022/2023 after have appearance 17 matches and has 2 goals contribution, in Champion League João Cancelo have played 6 matches and seems he still get regular position under Pep Guardiola.
João Cancelo is one of the fantastic right back in city, although he did good defending jobs during his time in the club and he have also cost them costly mistakes against Liverpool which have resulted in losing essential points on the table. João Cancelo  in Manchester city after got signed from Juventus. He's presently in Germany with the part of the new players loaned out by city with a buy out clause option. The Portugal international will make superb debut in his first game for his new club but it's really nothing compared to what Pep Guardiola see in his new youngsters. There's a certain fact about the city boss, he doesn't depend on a particular player to nailed his goals or targets for the team, that's why cith don't easily get affected by keyplayers been ruled out for long-term injuries, because there's gold replacement for each first eleven on the pitch.

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February 01, 2023, 04:24:58 AM
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Everton are entering a new period with a new manager from now on. However I don't expect it to make a positive impact in the Arsenal match already. There is a significant level of gap between these teams. Arsenal have fought really amazingly so far and Everton shouldn't be a big hindrance for them. Playing the match in Goodison Park shouldn't also change anything for them. Despite Jesus' absence Arsenal are still doing great. Nketiah has filled his place in a very good way as well.
Talking about Everton Sean Dyche as new manager has a hard job to bringing this team survive on Premier League especially after Everton lost Anthony Gordon which is moved to Newcastle and now they have to fight with their current squad but Sean Dyche is very experience coach and his achievement during train Burnley looks very impressive that he has successfully bringing Burnley to playing at europa league after 51 years

Maybe he can maximize Everton squad to gets the better results but he hasn't lucky because on his debut match Everton have to faced Arsenal which is one of the most consistent team in Premier League and assume Everton still required time to adapt with his strategy possibly Everton will be lost in this match

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February 01, 2023, 04:46:58 AM
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Actually João Cancelo has not really bad performance with Manchester City in Primer League season 2022/2023 after have appearance 17 matches and has 2 goals contribution, in Champion League João Cancelo have played 6 matches and seems he still get regular position under Pep Guardiola.

Personally, I don't think João Cancelo is a bad defender. Quite talented defender João Cancelo. And João Cancelo's performance with Manchester City was also pretty good. I don't know why Guardiola isn't interested in keeping João Cancelo in the team though. Manchester City's defenders are performing well. They conceded only 20 goals in 20 matches. Even so, I would say Guardiola should focus more on defense. Manchester City lost points in several matches due to unfortunate mistakes by defenders.

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