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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
Arsenal - 39 (20.6%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
Totenham - 7 (3.7%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 189

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September 04, 2023, 03:34:22 PM
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Nope, this season is better than previous.

In the previous season, both of midfielder and striker are really useless. But now, Chelsea striker are quite good because they have Sterling, Nkunku, and Jackson, the problem is Nkunku currently injured, so Chelsea perform not maximal in their attack.

However another problem in Chelsea is the goalkeeper, signing Robert Sanchez and loan Kepa to Real Madrid is ridiculous decision.
Yes.... although I have to say it's hardly any change.  Grin

Chelsea is still plagued by many injuries so it may be difficult for Pochettino to simulate his game, the game is still quite unstable and not to say completely consistent, but everything must change if their squad is back to normal without any injured players.

Robert Sanchez is not worse, but it is the weak defense that makes many goals to Chelsea.  Cheesy
Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.

yes I agree with you, even though they have high ball possession and try 21 times, but if the final finish is not good then it is difficult to score.
Is Chelsea out of luck? but I think it's not just bad luck, the number of injured players and previous losses and the pressure to win can also affect the team's performance. Psychological factors such as self-confidence and motivation also have an important role in the outcome of the game. making Chelsea currently unable to win

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September 04, 2023, 03:36:49 PM
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Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.
Chelsea has a complex issue regarding its performance rather than just being bad due to injuries to several players. I have to say that many of their new signings have not been fully adapted properly which in turn has not kept Chelsea in top form, so that is a cause Pochettino needs to fix immediately.

If Pochettino can do something better in the dressing room then I think Chelsea will be even better. I don't know if Pochettino is capable of doing it, but he is a pretty serious type of coach. Pochettino has to solve very basic problems, so he doesn't have to think that his playing strategy is not good. Of course I expected a better performance from Chelsea, but I admit Pochettino is still having difficulty making it happen.
Chelsea has been very inconsistent with their performance this season and Saturday's defeat to Nottingham Forest further highlights the teams poor form under current manager Mauricio Pochettino. After their performance against Liverpool in their opening English Premier League match of the season, most fans of the club had thought the club has improved from their disappointing campaign last season it's now clear that they're far from improvement.
Mauricio Pochettino must find a playing pattern that'll work for his earn if he wants to remain as the manager of the club or risk being dismissed.

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September 04, 2023, 03:49:26 PM
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Liverpool continued to get positive results after the first match against Chelsea they only won a draw, but the rest of the match they could win consecutive wins. This is a breath of fresh air for them after last season appearing inconsistent and having to try hard to be able to slowly increase their ranking in the standings. But this season the change looks real and the results they can also feel with 10 points they managed to collect from the initial 4 matches. Finally we see something different from them, where something that was missing from them last season is now slowly returning.

There is a possibility that Liverpool needs adaptation from the whole team which is why there was no consistency last season, but Liverpool can run well and improve it well this season, they take advantage of the moments in every match because points are more important than defeats, because of that will be detrimental to Liverpool at the end of the season, maybe we know that Liverpool had crawled at the end of the season to climb into the European zone, so that's why Liverpool doesn't want that to happen again..

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September 04, 2023, 03:50:05 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.

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September 04, 2023, 04:04:41 PM
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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
I'm just curious because quite a lot of people are discussing the VAR result and if it was offside then it was the right decision to annul the goal. I do not side with any team and all decisions remain in the hands of the referee. It seems like you are too hasty to define other people's opinions and when everything is clear there should be no need for too serious a debate. Well, whatever it is, Arsenal has done their job well and for Manchester United they have to try even harder so they can win the next match. Smiley
Just follow what decision has already been taken by VAR team and referee. Even though if it was not offside and it has already happened, you can't roll it back again. It's a common thing when see the loser say nay but the winner said yay to the decision taken by the referee and var team. Blaming the decision from the referee will be only wasting its time. The better thing for MU is to fix the problem owned by the club like trying to take care of its defender. The second goal comes from the defender's mistake.

Just let it flow. MU must try to prepare itself for the upcoming match. keep debating about VAR is pretty much useless at this moment.

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September 04, 2023, 04:14:27 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance.
Quite a lot of football fans erroneously believe that spending a lot of money is the only prerequisite to success, i hope they can learn from Chelsea's situation that it is not so, of course spending money is important, but you have to get the right players, and not only that, the club must be managed in the right way, from both the manager and those at the club hierarchy.

Chelsea look like a disorganized club ever since Abramovich left, the new owners right now don't understand a thing about football and i'm afraid i don't see Chelsea's position improving anytime soon, they are about to have another bad season.
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September 04, 2023, 04:25:03 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There sure was a lot of hope from fans In the performance of Chelsea this season. I thought with the new season, things would finally turn around for them and they would actually compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the title. Admittedly, the season is still quite young and thy have a lot of games to prove themselves; their performance so far haven’t been particularly impressive.

I thought Chelsea would, with some ease win the game with Nottingham Forest but it wasn’t so. They were actually in total control of the game but had a hard time getting good shots on target. After the goal, I still felt a bit confident that they could first equalize and perhaps feel motivated enough to score another to win the game.
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September 04, 2023, 04:34:39 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.
I can still see that many people were keep saying give em all more time. They will deliver but the question is how long chelsea players will deliver what is already expected by the fans? The last season has proven that if the team performing so badly.
Do the fans need to be patience even longer and waiting those players play like shit in any game? Pochettino is responsible for this caused by he was the one won did potter ball in the club by exchanging player's position.



There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.
He needs at least more than a half of this season to recover. Don't put a lot of hope toward him. Nkuku was facing serious injury. He may perform at the end of the season. The club can't keep loose points until nkuku will be recover or chelsea will be relegated.
Will we see this club is trying to defend its position not to be relegated this season? Even nottingham forest played better than chelsea at SB.

Pochettino shall have changed its strategy. It's boring to see how he keeps use the same shit again and again. The fans may lose their patients soon.
Pochettino will be going to be the next potter.

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September 04, 2023, 04:40:05 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance.
Quite a lot of football fans erroneously believe that spending a lot of money is the only prerequisite to success, i hope they can learn from Chelsea's situation that it is not so, of course spending money is important, but you have to get the right players, and not only that, the club must be managed in the right way, from both the manager and those at the club hierarchy.

Chelsea look like a disorganized club ever since Abramovich left, the new owners right now don't understand a thing about football and i'm afraid i don't see Chelsea's position improving anytime soon, they are about to have another bad season.
I very much agree with you bud, its just the same thing as in business, there are many who believe that having a lot of money invested in a business is a possible guarantee that such business will do really well/succeed, they put aside the importance of business management and every other thing that patterns to that..

Investing a lot of money in a club does not guarantee success just as you have said, a club can have the best of players, but if the management of such club is absolute shit, that club will still end up underperforming, same way that one can hire the best sales person to attend to customers coming to patronize his or her business, but if the manager of that business knows nothing about capital and profit, and how to balance this two to make sure he or she has a clear record of how much the business made as profit at the end of everyday, then such business will still suffer and possibly collapse regardless of how much was invested in it.

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September 04, 2023, 04:42:26 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There sure was a lot of hope from fans In the performance of Chelsea this season. I thought with the new season, things would finally turn around for them and they would actually compete with Manchester City and Arsenal for the title. Admittedly, the season is still quite young and thy have a lot of games to prove themselves; their performance so far haven’t been particularly impressive.

I thought Chelsea would, with some ease win the game with Nottingham Forest but it wasn’t so. They were actually in total control of the game but had a hard time getting good shots on target. After the goal, I still felt a bit confident that they could first equalize and perhaps feel motivated enough to score another to win the game.
The massive investment made by Chelsea is not in line with the results on the field, this is of course very disappointing for many parties and perhaps the club owner himself, Todd Boehly, is very angry to see such conditions. But there is no other choice for Chelsea's management other than to be patient with the team's progress. Firing Pochettino at this time is certainly not a good choice, but if conditions do not change in the next few matches, Todd will have an increasingly dilemmatic dilemma.

It's hard to believe when Chelsea failed to achieve positive results against a team whose quality was lower than theirs, but the morale of the Blues players was so bad that they even seemed to have no motivation to win the match. I'm increasingly not sure that Chelsea will be able to finish in the top six of the standings because they have wasted a lot of points even though the EPL has only been going on for a few weeks.

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September 04, 2023, 04:48:16 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

The spending is not that surprising because we all know how the owner wants to make a difference, I'll say is like a competition between the current owner and the previous owner. Well that's not going to help a team that's having a bad time on the pitch, I mean the spending won't help.
Talking about Jackson, he's a good player that wants to prove himself to both the club and the fans. Chelsea is a club that's desperate to be at the top and much expectations will come in play, I feel most of the players are playing under pressure and Jackson seems to be one of them. I believe with time when the help he needs comes all these missed chances would be a thing of the past, someone like Nkunku need to be among the 1st eleven to help out.


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There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.

Nkunku on the other hand is not coming back too soon and I believe Chelsea have players who can fill in that missing space like someone to play that attacking position while Jackson as the main man play from the wing. But my question is, why is Pochettino acting like the past coaches? Why drop someone like Mudryk? To me I believe that guy (Mudryk) can make a difference, his force and that of Sterling can even boost the morela of Jackson, so they can work things out before the return of Nkunku.

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September 04, 2023, 05:06:13 PM
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Chelsea only mistake when losing to Nottingham Forest was due to poor finishing due to not being able to maximize the opportunities they had. Chelsea was able to dominate the match with ball possession reaching 73%, Chelsea was also able to make 21 attempts and several of them were on goal.
Luck has not been on Chelsea side, they had to suffer their second defeat this season after previously losing to West Ham. The injury storm also greatly affected Chelsea appearance, Pochettino had to lose several of his mainstay players which made him have to develop a strategy with several substitute players.
Chelsea has a complex issue regarding its performance rather than just being bad due to injuries to several players. I have to say that many of their new signings have not been fully adapted properly which in turn has not kept Chelsea in top form, so that is a cause Pochettino needs to fix immediately.

If Pochettino can do something better in the dressing room then I think Chelsea will be even better. I don't know if Pochettino is capable of doing it, but he is a pretty serious type of coach. Pochettino has to solve very basic problems, so he doesn't have to think that his playing strategy is not good. Of course I expected a better performance from Chelsea, but I admit Pochettino is still having difficulty making it happen.
Adaptation shouldn't be a big obstacle to find excuses for their failure at the start of this season. However, it seems that this backfired for Chelsea because their purchasing record did not match expectations with their performance at the start of this season. Chelsea is in 12th place in the standings and the difference in points with the top-ranked teams is 8 points, making their progress appear to be facing bigger obstacles this season.

Well, everyone thinks that Pochettino performance is not very satisfactory, especially after he sold many players in the transfer market and recruited several players who are currently still having difficulty adapting to the strategy he is implementing. So their performance doesn't seem to have changed from their game last season.

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September 04, 2023, 05:07:07 PM
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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
If in the Manchester United vs Arsenal match there are still those who blame the referee's decision, it is a sign that the Manchester United fans are trying to dismiss and do not want to accept the fact that they lost to Arsenal. Even though many of Anthony Taylor's decisions are often controversial, in that fight, in my opinion, he showed fairness and professionalism.

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September 04, 2023, 05:13:07 PM
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Chelsea have spent a lot of money so far since the beginning of the summer transfer window. But for now there is no big difference than the previous season when it comes to their performance. Jackson is really unreliable player right now. He just doesn't have good finishing skills as he wastes so many goal opportunities.

There is a lot of time to go for Nkunku to recover so I wish Chelsea signed another striker as well. Some players were rumoured but there was no deal at the end. I just hope them to improve this form as much as possible until Nkunku returns. After that things can get better hopefully.

Nicholas Jackson is good, but show on Saturday is what you get when team up without q proper attacking midfielders to link those attackers with good pass which to score goals.
How many chances was created in that game for him?
I'm not sure you saw that game. Though,  Raheem Sterling  created few but he wasn't good enough  to find the back of the net or possibly linking  another player to score.

The so called Nkuku isn't a striker. He is a winger who can also be useful behind  the strikers with his crazy goal creation and also chances.

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September 04, 2023, 05:19:57 PM
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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
If in the Manchester United vs Arsenal match there are still those who blame the referee's decision, it is a sign that the Manchester United fans are trying to dismiss and do not want to accept the fact that they lost to Arsenal. Even though many of Anthony Taylor's decisions are often controversial, in that fight, in my opinion, he showed fairness and professionalism.
Actually, it is quite natural that there are still those who discuss the referee's decision, especially when it was very thin when Garnacho's goal was disallowed by VAR. But once again in this condition we also have to realize that the function of VAR is to anticipate things like this so that the referee's decision is not wrong in giving a decision so I don't think it can be argued because in the end they can still maintain a draw it's just that Manchester United can't do that.
Instead of blaming VAR for the defeat I think it would be wiser if we highlight how fragile their concentration is because seeing from the conditions that occur when time enters crucial time (the first 10 minutes and the last 10 minutes) Manchester United always lack focus and this is not the first time it has happened for them to lose at a crucial time.

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[....]I also don't know for sure whether the VAR decision for the goal scored by Garnacho was correct or not because after that incident it was Arsenal who managed to turn things around.
What are you trying to say here? Arsenal's last two goals has nothing to do with the disallowed MU goal. If you have a problem with the call then point it out on a technical level and not come of as someone saying MU was robbed of that goal so Arsenal could win. Garnacho was offside by the slightest of margins.
If in the Manchester United vs Arsenal match there are still those who blame the referee's decision, it is a sign that the Manchester United fans are trying to dismiss and do not want to accept the fact that they lost to Arsenal. Even though many of Anthony Taylor's decisions are often controversial, in that fight, in my opinion, he showed fairness and professionalism.

I agree, for even if you re-watch the match it is clear that Arsenal were superior to Manchester United at many points, so the fans' outrage is nothing more than frustration at the defeat. After all, even assuming that their goal would have counted, it wouldn't change anything, for the score is 3-1

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I have a feeling that Wolves might fight to avoid relegation spots this season. I say this because even if the team is producing a good football is simply not enough to win games as Wolves have no real defenders right now Sad.

Liverpool is a surprise for me as I didn't expect them to perform this good but Nunez is doing awesome job so far that puts Liverpool on a great start of the season.  Cool


I think there is something wrong with Wolves because they started the season well when they played against Manchester United and fought it out until 90 minutes despite conceding a goal late in the second half that was enough to help United win. There is still much time to pull themselves together especially with the international break to re-strategize and get back to their feet again. Liverpool recorded yet another crucial win against Aston Villa on Sunday to move up to 3rd position in the table over Westham and Arsenal.
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September 04, 2023, 06:14:13 PM
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I agree, for even if you re-watch the match it is clear that Arsenal were superior to Manchester United at many points, so the fans' outrage is nothing more than frustration at the defeat. After all, even assuming that their goal would have counted, it wouldn't change anything, for the score is 3-1
North London Derby was entertaining and tough. Both sides displayed their best performance and we had two experienced coach guiding their perspective teams. Arsenal al triumphed over the Red Devils with shocking two goals at injury time. No one sawed that coming, not even Mikel Arteta. Declan Rice making the different with a long shot into the opponent's box and returning Gabriel Jesus from injury doubling it to 3-1 on the scoresheet. Arsenal dominated and missed crucial goal scoring opportunities. It one of the most important game for Gunners and they definitely accumulated the require three points.

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September 04, 2023, 06:18:02 PM
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There were even moments when City went like 30 games without a loss easily. That feels like a huge achievement in itself because having that much consistency is not that easy for many teams. I am not saying big clubs do not get many points, sure City could end up with a big point totals at the end of the season, but in football we have seen great teams beat their toughest rivals and have 10 amazing win run and then end up losing to some relegation level team to end the win streak. That happens all the time and it is common.

I think it is quite important to realize that you should be doing it a lot better if you are careful and should be considering that as a thing. I hope that it can go towards a better way for them and not like that.

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September 04, 2023, 06:36:53 PM
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I agree, for even if you re-watch the match it is clear that Arsenal were superior to Manchester United at many points, so the fans' outrage is nothing more than frustration at the defeat. After all, even assuming that their goal would have counted, it wouldn't change anything, for the score is 3-1
After this defeat, we don't know what steps will be taken by Manchester United, bearing in mind that the UCL competition awaits this month which will make us even more doubtful, because with conditions like a match against a club like Galatasaray, it's definitely not guaranteed. To be realistic, I think it will be difficult for Manchester United to qualify for the group stage. Even Copenhagen and Galatasaray can be far superior to Manchester United. Bayern Munich doesn't need to be counted Smiley

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