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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 87 (46%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.4%)
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Chelsea - 7 (3.7%)
Manchester United - 13 (6.9%)
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Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
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Author Topic: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024  (Read 645430 times)
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September 08, 2023, 10:07:34 AM
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Manchester United didn't have a good performance in the transfer window at all and they hired players like Evans while considering his age and the recent performance we saw from him, he can't help the team at all. Instead, they could get rid of Harry Maguire and start looking for younger talents because the current weakness of Manchester United is definitely the defensive line.
     
Manchester United defense line is quite problematic, especially as several of their main players are injured, such as Varane and Luke Shaw which has had quite a bad impact on them at the start of this season. Well, Maguire always gives a very disappointing impression because when he was given the opportunity to play, Maguire failed to provide his best qualities to carry out his duties.

In fact, their game was less than satisfactory in the previous match where they failed to withstand the onslaught of attacks carried out by Arsenal in which Arteta squad was able to score two goals in extra time. No wonder after the match ended, many fans were disappointed with Erik Ten Hag because he still believed in playing Maguire even though he was not in his best form.

We should not think about the fact that they conceded 2 goals in the last minutes of the Arsenal match. Manchester United have a very weak defense at the moment, if you noticed they are conceding goals in every match. They have become one of the teams that conceded the most goals in the league so far in the first weeks.
This situation will probably continue for a while because the right transfers were not made in the team. It seems a little difficult for Manchester United to be successful this year, something has to change
I think this is like an old disease that has not been cured. Before the season started Ten Hag actually had a lot of time (and funds) to sign a defender who might have good potential, but what turned out to be his priority was bringing in a new midfielder, attacker, and goalkeeper. For the goalkeeper and striker positions, maybe the conditions are understandable because Man United really needs new players in these positions, but it would be better to get a new (potential) defender instead of signing a new (expensive) midfielder.

There was another hope when it was widely stated that Maguire would move to West Ham but it all vanished when Maguire resented West Ham's offer and chose to stay at Man United.

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September 08, 2023, 10:07:41 AM
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West Ham have made a big progress in the Premier League recently. They didn't have a good season in the league previously. David Moyes could have even got sacked after a poor performance there. However I think their winning the Europa Conference League title was the thing helping him gain more time.

It seems like he is taking advantage of this chance in a great way for now. Winning against Chelsea and Brighton by 3-1 was also very impressive work. But the important thing is how consistent they can be throughout the season. They would be expected to be competitive for a European tournament spot.
West Ham's performance at the start of this season was beyond what many people expected, and when they were able to beat Brighton is proof that this team is very strong this season.
In terms of playing, the West Ham team is quite solid, but again we have to remember that this is the Premeir League which always has quite fierce competition, it is very difficult to maintain consistency and I doubt West Ham can maintain their good performance until the end of the season.
It's still early in the season and only 4 games in, so we can't conclude anything yet.

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September 08, 2023, 10:29:09 AM
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How could we expect the promoted team to perform greatly in EPL?
I also predict that Burnley and Sheffield United will stay. As for Luton Town as it is their debut in EPL I think it will be difficult for them to survive. Maybe they can gain experience playing in the highest caste in the League and will mentally shape themselves to be promoted again.

A club's first season in the Premier League does not guarantee that they will be relegated to the Championship. Taking Brighton as an example, they finally made it to the top tier, the Premier League in 2017, after many decades. The management and players that were there at the club at the time are no longer with them, thus I won't say the team has prior experience prior to qualifying for the 2017/2018 season. Since qualifying, their performance has been good and they have been progressing upward in the league, with their best season being the most recent one, which also earned them a place in European football (Europa League) for the first time. So Luton Town can do better and remain in the league if they want to.

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September 08, 2023, 10:30:16 AM
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It's hard to know Ten Hag's way of thinking now when considering Evans' age and performance he doesn't deserve to be at Manchester United. Moreover, the duo with Maguire? It is really complete in terms of performance because they are equally bad.

On the other hand, now their attacking line is also problematic. After Greenwood's problem is now solved, Anthony is currently experiencing the same problem and it is likely that this will be a long drama again for the Manchester United wing.
Injury problems, incompetent substitutes and the same problem for their wingers, this is really a more complex problem for United.

Manchester United didn't have a good performance in the transfer window at all and they hired players like Evans while considering his age and the recent performance we saw from him, he can't help the team at all. Instead, they could get rid of Harry Maguire and start looking for younger talents because the current weakness of Manchester United is definitely the defensive line.
    
The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.

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September 08, 2023, 10:31:23 AM
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West Ham have made a big progress in the Premier League recently. They didn't have a good season in the league previously. David Moyes could have even got sacked after a poor performance there. However I think their winning the Europa Conference League title was the thing helping him gain more time.

It seems like he is taking advantage of this chance in a great way for now. Winning against Chelsea and Brighton by 3-1 was also very impressive work. But the important thing is how consistent they can be throughout the season. They would be expected to be competitive for a European tournament spot.
West Ham's performance at the start of this season was beyond what many people expected, and when they were able to beat Brighton is proof that this team is very strong this season.
In terms of playing, the West Ham team is quite solid, but again we have to remember that this is the Premeir League which always has quite fierce competition, it is very difficult to maintain consistency and I doubt West Ham can maintain their good performance until the end of the season.
It's still early in the season and only 4 games in, so we can't conclude anything yet.
After winning an European trophy last season, West Ham has built on that win to start the new season in a very impressive style having been able to get 10 points in a possible 12 points in the first four English Premier League games of the season.
Their most surprising result of the season so far is winning their home game against Chelsea with 10 men and that I think also helped boost the morale of the team. They've started the season on a very good note but it's also another different thing to continue with that same mentality and be consistent with their good performances as the season goes on.

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September 08, 2023, 10:42:58 AM
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West Ham have made a big progress in the Premier League recently. They didn't have a good season in the league previously. David Moyes could have even got sacked after a poor performance there. However I think their winning the Europa Conference League title was the thing helping him gain more time.

It seems like he is taking advantage of this chance in a great way for now. Winning against Chelsea and Brighton by 3-1 was also very impressive work. But the important thing is how consistent they can be throughout the season. They would be expected to be competitive for a European tournament spot.
West Ham's performance at the start of this season was beyond what many people expected, and when they were able to beat Brighton is proof that this team is very strong this season.
In terms of playing, the West Ham team is quite solid, but again we have to remember that this is the Premeir League which always has quite fierce competition, it is very difficult to maintain consistency and I doubt West Ham can maintain their good performance until the end of the season.
It's still early in the season and only 4 games in, so we can't conclude anything yet.
After winning an European trophy last season, West Ham has built on that win to start the new season in a very impressive style having been able to get 10 points in a possible 12 points in the first four English Premier League games of the season.
Their most surprising result of the season so far is winning their home game against Chelsea with 10 men and that I think also helped boost the morale of the team. They've started the season on a very good note but it's also another different thing to continue with that same mentality and be consistent with their good performances as the season goes on.

West Ham players are very confident. And the important thing is that west ham's match strategy is excellent.  The team has been able to maintain consistency due to good match strategy. I watched west ham's performances against chelsea and brighton . The team had 24% possession against chelsea and just 22% against brighton. However  both matches were won 3-1. west ham's attacking players are in great form. This is the reason why the team is able to score even if they have less possession of the ball. However  West ham will play against Manchester City in their next match. The team has the possibility of losing points in this match. Winning against Guardiola will be much more difficult. However, West Ham will probably play very carefully in this match. and will try to share the points in the match.

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September 08, 2023, 11:20:52 AM
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The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.

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September 08, 2023, 11:52:18 AM
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The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.
Lol, I really laughed reading this mate, I don't know if this is sarcasm or what but it is what it is. The person who will be the first to be seen from Manchester United's unsatisfactory results is Maguire and there is no doubt that he is always the target of criticism because he is considered the cause of Manchester United's defeat. Even when he was on the bench he was always at fault when Manchester United lost. Lol
To be honest, I also feel sorry for him because he is often the subject of ridicule, but that is the risk for every player who is considered to display a game that is far from expectations or makes many mistakes.

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September 08, 2023, 12:05:08 PM
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The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.
Lol, I really laughed reading this mate, I don't know if this is sarcasm or what but it is what it is. The person who will be the first to be seen from Manchester United's unsatisfactory results is Maguire and there is no doubt that he is always the target of criticism because he is considered the cause of Manchester United's defeat. Even when he was on the bench he was always at fault when Manchester United lost. Lol
To be honest, I also feel sorry for him because he is often the subject of ridicule, but that is the risk for every player who is considered to display a game that is far from expectations or makes many mistakes.
because Maguire showed a game that wasn't worth the money. this is a stupid purchase made by Man United. and I'm still confused why Ten Hag didn't just throw him off the team. instead of playing him as a substitute, it also aggravates the team no better. fans are fed up with him, If Ten Hag still plays him it's possible that fans' anger will also affect him.
I'm sure the fans will be happy if Maguire doesn't play. but opposing fans will be delighted when Maguire is brought on. That's what happened today.



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September 08, 2023, 12:05:45 PM
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Lol, I really laughed reading this mate, I don't know if this is sarcasm or what but it is what it is. The person who will be the first to be seen from Manchester United's unsatisfactory results is Maguire and there is no doubt that he is always the target of criticism because he is considered the cause of Manchester United's defeat. Even when he was on the bench he was always at fault when Manchester United lost. Lol
To be honest, I also feel sorry for him because he is often the subject of ridicule, but that is the risk for every player who is considered to display a game that is far from expectations or makes many mistakes.
Talking about mistakes, all players have made mistakes, the striker who failed to execute a good opportunity or failed to score from the penalty spot, the goalkeeper who made a stupid move so that the opposing player managed to score a goal and so on, but indeed Harry Maguire is the object that will always be blamed every time The time he played for Manchester United and the club got bad results, but strangely Gareth Southgate didn't consider this, it was proven that he still included Harry Maguire in the England national team squad list for European Cup qualification.
Is it possible that the English national team coach couldn't see the mistake? Of course, he can, but as a coach, he has a different view from the audience and media who only see Maguire's mistakes and include them in the news in their media so that all the mistakes are on him.

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September 08, 2023, 12:26:36 PM
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What's wrong with manchester united? Greenwood was leving the club caused by he had been getting so many protests due to his case. Antony is now facing the same stroy like him. What the hell was wrong with anthony?

It looks like he was being so aggresive toward woman which is an unbelievable thing. Will he go to the prison after greenword? Many people were mocking this club as prison FC.

Manchester united has not yet finished with the problem on its defensive line, tenhag potentially faces another problem caused by antony might be sued like greenwood.

There's something wrong with so many players on manchester united. Megurie is king of blunder, antony king of physical attack.  Cheesy Cheesy
I’m still not sure of the abusive allegations linked to Antony because I feel anybody can come up with allegations, and I don’t why do people believe in such without hearing from the second party. The Brazilian National team have suspended him and I don’t know how this allegation will hamper his chances of playing for Manchester United. There is a hope, and there is Sun from where light is coming with a hope that Manchester United go through tough time and come back stronger.
I hope it's just an accusation. Honestly, I still expect Antony to play calmly on the field. If this accusation is proven to be true then Antony's career is really in danger. We already know the fate of the Man United player (Mason Greenwood), who was previously accused of the same thing regarding violence. And look now his career is ruined. I hope this problem is resolved quickly and I hope this is just a false accusation. I don't want Antony to suffer the same fate as Mason Greenwood. The case that ensnared Mason Greenwood is also similar to that which is now being accused of Antony. And even though the Mason Greenwood case has been completed because the charges were dropped which means Mason Greenwood is actually not necessarily guilty but now he still gets a lot of blasphemy and his reputation is completely destroyed.
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What's wrong with manchester united? Greenwood was leving the club caused by he had been getting so many protests due to his case. Antony is now facing the same stroy like him. What the hell was wrong with anthony?

It looks like he was being so aggresive toward woman which is an unbelievable thing. Will he go to the prison after greenword? Many people were mocking this club as prison FC.

Manchester united has not yet finished with the problem on its defensive line, tenhag potentially faces another problem caused by antony might be sued like greenwood.

There's something wrong with so many players on manchester united. Megurie is king of blunder, antony king of physical attack.  Cheesy Cheesy

I have not read the full gist about what transpired between Antony and the women that are accusing him but after what happened to Mendy, and all charges against him were later dropped after his career with Manchester City have being ruined, I don’t believe in most of this ladies again.

Most of them are just after this young men money and tarnishing their reputation. After all has been achieved and career ruined, the accused are not always compensated for their loss, the world is just unjust to these men. I hope Antony comes clean and we don’t see another players career being ruined by women because of false accusations. I always feel sorry for Mendy who was a player at Manchester City for what happened to his career. By now he would have won some trophies and medal to his football career, what a pitiful player and cruel world we live in.

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September 08, 2023, 12:54:03 PM
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The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.
I am beginning to see Harry Maguire as a hero in the Manchester United team. Last season he was the captain of the team and this season the coach of the club systematically took the captainship away from him and wants to stylishly push him away from the club, but he insisted and stood his ground. Whether he does much or not for the growth of the club, I perceive that the mindset of Harry towards Manchester United is  genuine. He has refused to go to West Ham but wants to stay and Manchester United to help the club even the fans are against him. I can say that Harry Maguire is a hero

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September 08, 2023, 12:59:44 PM
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The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.

It makes sense, at least having Maguire in the Manchester United squad will make Manchester United defense better. Can't imagine how Manchester United would be without Maguire, maybe Manchester United defense would be chaotic and it would be difficult to get clean sheets in every match. After all, no team has a high interest in signing Maguire apart from West Ham. So yes, Erik ten Hag decision to keep Maguire seems to be the right choice.

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September 08, 2023, 01:14:18 PM
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The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.
I am beginning to see Harry Maguire as a hero in the Manchester United team. Last season he was the captain of the team and this season the coach of the club systematically took the captainship away from him and wants to stylishly push him away from the club, but he insisted and stood his ground. Whether he does much or not for the growth of the club, I perceive that the mindset of Harry towards Manchester United is  genuine. He has refused to go to West Ham but wants to stay and Manchester United to help the club even the fans are against him. I can say that Harry Maguire is a hero

It's a joke to read, but it's true. I'm also very surprised by Harry Maguire, who always wants his game to be in the lyrics, but the mistakes he often makes make it seem like it's right and good for the club, but instead the club feels they are being disadvantaged by mistakes that often pose a threat to Manchester's goal. United.

My question is whether there is a club that will accept him, while the video of his mistakes has become a laughing matter for Manchester United fans. Even though he is no longer part of Manchester United's main squad and is a substitute player, Harry Maguire is still confident that he is still a player. became captain of the Manchester United team, even though he was aware that he was no longer trusted within the team to serve as captain of Manchester United.

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September 08, 2023, 01:31:36 PM
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~snip~
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.
I am beginning to see Harry Maguire as a hero in the Manchester United team. Last season he was the captain of the team and this season the coach of the club systematically took the captainship away from him and wants to stylishly push him away from the club, but he insisted and stood his ground. Whether he does much or not for the growth of the club, I perceive that the mindset of Harry towards Manchester United is  genuine. He has refused to go to West Ham but wants to stay and Manchester United to help the club even the fans are against him. I can say that Harry Maguire is a hero
No one will believe that Harry Maguire can make a big contribution to Manchester United.
He is the single worst Manchester United captain ever recorded in the history of the Red Devils team.
But Maguire felt that in other teams he could be seen as a useless player and made him choose to stay with Manchester United.

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Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.

It makes sense, at least having Maguire in the Manchester United squad will make Manchester United defense better. Can't imagine how Manchester United would be without Maguire, maybe Manchester United defense would be chaotic and it would be difficult to get clean sheets in every match. After all, no team has a high interest in signing Maguire apart from West Ham. So yes, Erik ten Hag decision to keep Maguire seems to be the right choice.
What could have been better in Manchester United defense while Harry Maguire was playing there?
Haven't you also seen that Maguire made several fatal mistakes which resulted in defeat for Manchester United.
I still remember very well how crazy this defender was when he broke into his own team goal.

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September 08, 2023, 01:42:01 PM
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because Maguire showed a game that wasn't worth the money. this is a stupid purchase made by Man United. and I'm still confused why Ten Hag didn't just throw him off the team. instead of playing him as a substitute, it also aggravates the team no better. fans are fed up with him, If Ten Hag still plays him it's possible that fans' anger will also affect him.
I'm sure the fans will be happy if Maguire doesn't play. but opposing fans will be delighted when Maguire is brought on. That's what happened today.
This is always a ridiculous conversation about Maguire, it is very difficult for him to leave Man United even though in the transfer market his sale is almost complete but fate does not want to separate Maguire from the Red Devils. I was so annoyed, I was even more amused because the captain's armband was removed and playing time was also reduced, but that still didn't dampen Maguire intention to play and the funny thing is that as soon as Maguire was played, disaster happened.

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September 08, 2023, 01:43:03 PM
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The decision is not right when it still continues to defend Maguire even though there is already a good offer but they still try to ask for more and unreasonable which makes West Ham give up on bringing Maguire. On the other hand, bringing Evans home is not a good condition even though it is only temporary because this is only an option before their core players return from healing, it is still not a wise choice.
But indeed we can only comment on this because Ten Hag always does what he thinks is good even if it is controversial.
Currently West Ham is good without Maguire, why need to sign him when we're know his about his performance with Manchester United Roll Eyes

Maguire is good for Manchester United because if the team is suffering lose, the first player who will get blamed by fans is Maguire, not the coach, not the striker, goalkeeper etc. So Maguire will able to protect every Manchester United's players and managements.
This is the misfortune that happened for Manchester United. They have an opening to remove Maguire and look for other alternatives but still ask for more which in the end this makes them find the same fate.
Even if not all of Manchester United's defeats are not caused by Maguire but it should be with a few mistakes in the past it is enough to make him leave Manchester United.
On the other hand, it is a bit selfish to say that the defeat was caused only because Maguire played but this does not cover the fact that having him in the squad does not mean that he will not make silly mistakes that he has always done.

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September 08, 2023, 01:51:42 PM
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West Ham have made a big progress in the Premier League recently. They didn't have a good season in the league previously. David Moyes could have even got sacked after a poor performance there. However I think their winning the Europa Conference League title was the thing helping him gain more time.
My applause goes to the david moyes. He was able transforming the club to be even better than before. Im feeling so amazing witht he progress that already made by this club. It seems like that westham was even stronger compared with newcastle.
The club surprisingly won the matches consistently. I can't even believe it how david moyes was transforming the club to be even better. The chance for westham to win europa league is very big now.
Im feeling so confidence to pick this club in european league.

It seems like he is taking advantage of this chance in a great way for now. Winning against Chelsea and Brighton by 3-1 was also very impressive work. But the important thing is how consistent they can be throughout the season. They would be expected to be competitive for a European tournament spot.
Im feeling unbelivable to see how westham was able beating chelsea and brighton easily. I remind you that if westham was playing away against brighton but westham has destroyed brighton with huge scores.
Westham is making an excellent progress so far.

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September 08, 2023, 02:08:43 PM
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My applause goes to the david moyes. He was able transforming the club to be even better than before. Im feeling so amazing witht he progress that already made by this club. It seems like that westham was even stronger compared with newcastle.
The club surprisingly won the matches consistently. I can't even believe it how david moyes was transforming the club.
I'm suprised at their progress level this season, and even with the fact that they sold one of their most decorated player, Declan Rice this summer, they're still performing better than the previous  season, it shows how serious moyes is this season and I believe it's the Europa Conference League trophy they won that's help boost their moral, because their this ginger and motivation that comes with winning trophies and we've seen it recently with the way the Westham team are performing this season.
 In the EPL consistency matters to maintain the top four positions because their are several other clubs challenging for that spot and so far in four matches they've maintained the position by winning three games and a draw, well in their next match they might likely drop a point because they're playing against Manchester City and I'll be suprised to see Moyes winning City even though it's at home, Manchester City are favourites in that match and it would be a big test for Westham this season.

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