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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (49.4%)
Liverpool - 12 (14.8%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.2%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.2%)
Manchester United - 4 (4.9%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 2 (2.5%)
Total Voters: 81

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September 05, 2023, 11:49:31 AM
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As for Newcastle, I am very much pitiable for them because they are now in the Champions League and they're struggling in the English Premier League.
Several things might be factors why Newcastle United currently looks so difficult to compete in the English Premier League, and this is just my opinion:
1. At the start of the season, they immediately faced tough matches because they faced strong teams like Manchester City where they lost but by a narrow score, against Liverpool was the most painful defeat and they lost to Brighton who were indeed a strong team when they played as a home team.
2. The game strategy implemented by Eddie Howe has started to be read well by the teams that became their opponents and managed to get full points, so Howe had to become a coach who implemented a dynamic pattern of play that his opponents would find difficult to read later.

As a new force in the English Premier League, it is very possible that they will experience problems in this new season because other strong teams often experience the same thing, Liverpool is one of them, which last season really struggled to be in a good position.

Newcastle still has a lot of matches to play and they have to improve their current weaknesses where their defense is very easy to penetrate and in the Champions League, they are still very doubtful that their performance will be good because it is not an easy tournament to conquer.
Actually, in the strategy used by Newcastle last season and the current season there is a slight difference. And yes, last season I could say that Newcastle had the strongest defense. However, last season Newcastle had difficulty building attacks. The point is that their attacking sharpness was poor last season. Unlike this season. Newcastle in this season they seem to implement a strategy that emphasizes more attacks. But unfortunately this makes their defense have many gaps. This means that Newcastle have not found balance in the formation and strategy they use. But this is only the start of the season. Still a long journey. And Newcastle have a lot of matches to face and well they have to improve their strategy in the next matches.

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September 05, 2023, 12:05:32 PM
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The fact that United, Newcastle and Chelsea all started terribly is a bad sign for them. The transfer window is closed as well which means that they can't just get a big name transfer, maybe a free agent is allowed but still, they are not getting anyone that can fix the situation. These teams spend os much money on transfers, how come they are doing this terribly? I mean its obvious that the transfers they made weren't as good and the players they had already aren't great neither. But the main question was, how could they spend this much and still not get anyone decent? That doesn't really seem like it would make sense, I would have expected them to do a lot better on transfers.
Frustrating!!
It's been a total disaster, and I must admit, I'm running out of patience. It looks like that Man United coach struggles to find quality players. Instead, they go for high-priced players who don't perform well. Sure, they might have a good striker, but there's a lack of effective support for him. The main issue here is the team's coordination. They consistently put themselves under pressure due to this.

Manchester United has been criticized a lot about transfers. I think the criticism is not unfair either because it lags far behind its rivals in terms of transfer. Manchester City are strengthening the existing roster by making regional transfers, while United are making a general transfer and making a lot of changes. Fans who expect success at the end of it are disappointed.

The transfer was a total joke and mess for not pushing Harry Maguire away for giving Jonny Evans a contract extension which they should have given Eric Bailey rather than Jonny Evans who featured for Manchester United during the times of Fletcher and Micheal Carrick. Man United are missing a lot. All the young defender's in the world and Ten Hag choose to side with these dull players who also have no winning mentality. Man City didn't do too much this transfer window they spent wisely.

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September 05, 2023, 12:07:35 PM
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Newcastle have really disappointed with their games, especially the game against Brighton... I'm not surprised they lost the games against Liverpool and Man City because they were really tough matches... Now they can't lose in the next ones and lose points...

I think that if i just see newcastle's performance is dropping so hard. I meant to look at how newcastle could not win one from the last three games. The quality of newcastle is still questionable. I thought that if this club can do better than it.
Brighton was a strong opponent but newcastle could not at least get draw against it. The players are not feeling confidence anymore and i think that the problem was on eddie howe.

Howe's substitution of some important players caused the match against Liverpool to become a blunder for Newcastle. This coach is still doing the same thing against brighton.
I think that if howe has reached its maximum capability to handle the club. I think that newcastle will be stuck started from here. I don't expect a lot from this club in UCL.

The loose streak faced by newcastle was a horrible thing as for now.

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September 05, 2023, 12:47:40 PM
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After watching yesterday’s game, I think teams should be wary of Arsenal in stoppage and additional time because  Arsenal are utilizing the additional minutes to yield productive results. Against Manchester United and Manchester City, Arsenal have gotten late comeback goals and win games this season. Arsenal really showed the red devils who’s boss at the Emirates, the fans will ride on this victory for the rest of the month.

Arsenal manager have a lot of work to do before their players will start displaying like Manchester city players, because Manchester city won four matches to maintain a good position in the premier league table. If not that the referee cancelled the second goal Manchester united scored in the second half, it would have been in the favour of Manchester united because their game changed positively that made Arsenal players to look like small team to them before the referee added extra minutes that made Arsenal to embraced all those opportunities to ended the match with 1-3 for the favour of Arsenal. If Arsenal don't want to change from that late comeback minutes, I think it will over them in their next match because many teams will not allow them to use that strategy on them


Even as an Arsenal fan myself, I unfortunately have to agree with you , if you noticed here, I have not commented on the Arsenal against Manchester united on that match they player 2 days ago, I personally feel that Arsenal did not deserve the win, Manchester united won the match but 2 goals to one, but they were just unlucky to have VAR cancel the goal, this I believe distablized the Manchester united payers out of the shock and disappointment, Arsenal rode on this distability of the man united payers to immediately put 2 goals in which resulted in them winning the match, If VAR hadn't canceled goal from man united, man united would have won the match.

In this match there were several interesting moments after which the game could have changed and gone differently. Arsenal were lucky that the goal was disallowed after an offside. Both teams can be criticized and praised for the game as a whole and for individual moments. But still Arsenal looked more interesting, more worthy and won deservedly.

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September 05, 2023, 01:06:11 PM
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Newcastle have really disappointed with their games, especially the game against Brighton... I'm not surprised they lost the games against Liverpool and Man City because they were really tough matches... Now they can't lose in the next ones and lose points...
Newcastle start to this season was very bad, their performance was very different from last season. After appearing ferocious in the opening match of the season by beating Aston Villa with a final score of 5-1, Newcastle seemed to have lost their enthusiasm to play in the next match. The defeats of Manchester City and Liverpool might be used as an excuse that the opponents they faced were strong teams, but the defeat to Brighton was truly unexpected, especially since Brighton managed to score their goal three times.

Three consecutive defeats is not a good achievement for Newcastle, they must immediately improve their performance to rise from their slump. A team like Newcastle should be able to provide new challenges in the Premier League, they have sufficient funds to bring in quality players, but their movement in the transfer market looks so relaxed.

 
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September 05, 2023, 01:07:14 PM
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The transfer was a total joke and mess for not pushing Harry Maguire away for giving Jonny Evans a contract extension which they should have given Eric Bailey rather than Jonny Evans who featured for Manchester United during the times of Fletcher and Micheal Carrick. Man United are missing a lot. All the young defender's in the world and Ten Hag choose to side with these dull players who also have no winning mentality. Man City didn't do too much this transfer window they spent wisely.
In fact, the early season problems of groups like United, Newcastle and Chelsea are worrying. Despite having a sizable budget they appear to have made dubious transfer choices that have not produced the desired outcomes. Fans who had higher hopes for the results are disappointed. The problem with Manchester United is that they are concentrating on expensive players without improving the team overall cohesion. United strategy has been more upheaval than Manchester City who prioritise regional moves and continuity. Supporters are obviously disappointed as a result of the disparity between spending and performance.

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September 05, 2023, 01:36:08 PM
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I still think this massive overhaul is problematic even though it looks good, but of course with some new players and coaches, it will be like going back to the beginning and starting again and again every season if it continues.
Chelsea's play in terms of possession and initiation from the midfielders is good enough, now it's just a matter of focusing on how they don't waste opportunities.
On the other hand at the moment I don't want to defend Pochettino but we want something instant in the few matches Chelsea have had
I think It is evident that Chelsea has recently experienced significant difficulties, particularly as a result of the injuries to certain key players. Despite these difficulties they have done a great job of maintaining possession of the ball and attempting to score goals, which demonstrates their tenacity. Their coach Pochettino, must adjust to these issues and utilize the fresh players they have. Because of his seriousness as a coach, the team fundamental problems might be resolved. We must all exercise patience and have faith in Chelsea ability to bounce back even stronger. Pochettino commitment and expertise will undoubtedly aid the team in improving and Chelsea supporters should be optimistic about the future.

Btw Chelsea's problems aren't just recent as they've been going on all last season until now Cheesy
It's just that for now we just need to wait for how Pochettino steps in with the strength he has now when their players recover from injury whether Pochettino will be able to improve Chelsea's performance or not in a better direction.
I still feel that there is no need for them to change significantly but only need to improve to be better than last season it is very good for Chelsea because to change significantly after a bad performance is difficult to happen but when they can be in a better position at the end of the season it is very good for them.

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The transfer was a total joke and mess for not pushing Harry Maguire away for giving Jonny Evans a contract extension which they should have given Eric Bailey rather than Jonny Evans who featured for Manchester United during the times of Fletcher and Micheal Carrick. Man United are missing a lot. All the young defender's in the world and Ten Hag choose to side with these dull players who also have no winning mentality. Man City didn't do too much this transfer window they spent wisely.
In fact, the early season problems of groups like United, Newcastle and Chelsea are worrying. Despite having a sizable budget they appear to have made dubious transfer choices that have not produced the desired outcomes. Fans who had higher hopes for the results are disappointed. The problem with Manchester United is that they are concentrating on expensive players without improving the team overall cohesion. United strategy has been more upheaval than Manchester City who prioritise regional moves and continuity. Supporters are obviously disappointed as a result of the disparity between spending and performance.

It is also very normal for them to be disappointed, because the players who were transferred with large sums of money could not give what was expected. When teams such as Newcastle and Manchester United cannot achieve success in proportion to the money spent, the fans naturally react. Chelsea is still not in full swing. They are also dealing with big problems.

 
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Newcastle start to this season was very bad, their performance was very different from last season. After appearing ferocious in the opening match of the season by beating Aston Villa with a final score of 5-1, Newcastle seemed to have lost their enthusiasm to play in the next match. The defeats of Manchester City and Liverpool might be used as an excuse that the opponents they faced were strong teams, but the defeat to Brighton was truly unexpected, especially since Brighton managed to score their goal three times.

Three consecutive defeats is not a good achievement for Newcastle, they must immediately improve their performance to rise from their slump. A team like Newcastle should be able to provide new challenges in the Premier League, they have sufficient funds to bring in quality players, but their movement in the transfer market looks so relaxed.
I will say that already at this stage, Newcastle have made this task very difficult for themselves, because after 4 rounds they lose to the championship leader (City) by 9 points, and this may already be an unattainable gap between the teams. Yes, we can say that they had very strong opponents, and this is true, but if you are going to fight for the championship, then even in such difficult matches you need to score points.

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I still think this massive overhaul is problematic even though it looks good, but of course with some new players and coaches, it will be like going back to the beginning and starting again and again every season if it continues.
Chelsea's play in terms of possession and initiation from the midfielders is good enough, now it's just a matter of focusing on how they don't waste opportunities.
On the other hand at the moment I don't want to defend Pochettino but we want something instant in the few matches Chelsea have had
I think It is evident that Chelsea has recently experienced significant difficulties, particularly as a result of the injuries to certain key players. Despite these difficulties they have done a great job of maintaining possession of the ball and attempting to score goals, which demonstrates their tenacity. Their coach Pochettino, must adjust to these issues and utilize the fresh players they have. Because of his seriousness as a coach, the team fundamental problems might be resolved. We must all exercise patience and have faith in Chelsea ability to bounce back even stronger. Pochettino commitment and expertise will undoubtedly aid the team in improving and Chelsea supporters should be optimistic about the future.

Btw Chelsea's problems aren't just recent as they've been going on all last season until now Cheesy
It's just that for now we just need to wait for how Pochettino steps in with the strength he has now when their players recover from injury whether Pochettino will be able to improve Chelsea's performance or not in a better direction.
I still feel that there is no need for them to change significantly but only need to improve to be better than last season it is very good for Chelsea because to change significantly after a bad performance is difficult to happen but when they can be in a better position at the end of the season it is very good for them.
The Chelsea team has been able to perform exceptionally well. The attacking players of the team have improved their performance tremendously. This team has been able to win some matches exceptionally well. Hope to do something amazing this season.
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In fact, the early season problems of groups like United,

One of the problems you expressed is true. In addition, earlier this season they had problems with several injured players. This makes the balance of players really bad. Ten Hag doesn't have many other good options if the best player is injured. Besides, the injuries of their players are concomitant, and it's very bad. The expectations on Mount at the beginning were pretty good, but he was injured. Then Hojlund needed a lot of minutes, having played in the defeat against Arsenal.

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Newcastle start to this season was very bad, their performance was very different from last season. After appearing ferocious in the opening match of the season by beating Aston Villa with a final score of 5-1, Newcastle seemed to have lost their enthusiasm to play in the next match. The defeats of Manchester City and Liverpool might be used as an excuse that the opponents they faced were strong teams, but the defeat to Brighton was truly unexpected, especially since Brighton managed to score their goal three times.

Three consecutive defeats is not a good achievement for Newcastle, they must immediately improve their performance to rise from their slump. A team like Newcastle should be able to provide new challenges in the Premier League, they have sufficient funds to bring in quality players, but their movement in the transfer market looks so relaxed.
I will say that already at this stage, Newcastle have made this task very difficult for themselves, because after 4 rounds they lose to the championship leader (City) by 9 points, and this may already be an unattainable gap between the teams. Yes, we can say that they had very strong opponents, and this is true, but if you are going to fight for the championship, then even in such difficult matches you need to score points.
Infact a tough time for Newcastle this season despite thrashing Aston Villa 5-1 in their opening match, the team struggled to win their subsequent matches in the league now their participation and involvement in UCL midweek matches would definitely affect the team performances having started the league on bad note and that is partly because of lack of depth in the squad due to the club inability to strengthened up enough during the last transfer window and the club sold Allan Saint-Maximin one of their best player to Al-Ahli a Saudi Arabian club, Eddie Howes would have to up the performance of the club else his job would be stake, I believe their billionaire Saudi Arabian owners had made provisions for funds to strengthen up.

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In fact, the early season problems of groups like United,

One of the problems you expressed is true. In addition, earlier this season they had problems with several injured players. This makes the balance of players really bad. Ten Hag doesn't have many other good options if the best player is injured. Besides, the injuries of their players are concomitant, and it's very bad. The expectations on Mount at the beginning were pretty good, but he was injured. Then Hojlund needed a lot of minutes, having played in the defeat against Arsenal.

The reason is, if there are several key players in the team who are injured, this can have a negative impact on the team's balance and performance. Especially if these injuries occur simultaneously. the consequences depend on the particular player, and if they are injured then teams will have a hard time finding a suitable replacement.
but I think Ten Hag can be criticized for the lack of good options when his main players are injured. and we will see the main players in Mu and the supporting players, actually the quality of the players is not much different.
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The reason is, if there are several key players in the team who are injured, this can have a negative impact on the team's balance and performance. Especially if these injuries occur simultaneously. the consequences depend on the particular player, and if they are injured then teams will have a hard time finding a suitable replacement.
but I think Ten Hag can be criticized for the lack of good options when his main players are injured. and we will see the main players in Mu and the supporting players, actually the quality of the players is not much different.
Injuries do affect players, but there's absolutely nothing to worry about on the end of elite clubs because they always push for more signings. The Red Devils did not make enough backup signings this summer because they concentrated on the club's forthcoming ownership change and the presence of incompetent responsibilities from the Glazers family. Manchester United has outstanding players capable of expanding and strengthening the club, but they are lacking consistency and confidence in league games. Manchester United have an impressive lineup that will compete for the English Premier League title this season. 

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One of the problems you expressed is true. In addition, earlier this season they had problems with several injured players. This makes the balance of players really bad. Ten Hag doesn't have many other good options if the best player is injured. Besides, the injuries of their players are concomitant, and it's very bad. The expectations on Mount at the beginning were pretty good, but he was injured. Then Hojlund needed a lot of minutes, having played in the defeat against Arsenal.

The reason is, if there are several key players in the team who are injured, this can have a negative impact on the team's balance and performance. Especially if these injuries occur simultaneously. the consequences depend on the particular player, and if they are injured then teams will have a hard time finding a suitable replacement.
but I think Ten Hag can be criticized for the lack of good options when his main players are injured. and we will see the main players in Mu and the supporting players, actually the quality of the players is not much different.
Several key Man United players have recovered from injury, especially Martinez. Maybe it's Varane whose contribution is really needed. As for this season, Man United setback at the start of the season is of concern to many people and I don't think it's much different because we can see it against Arsenal. I think the factor of instability is on the front lines, strikers don't have sharp ambition in scoring goals. Rashford and Antony cooperation is not good. Then Rasmus Hojlund also made his first appearance with not long playing time so it was difficult to adjust the strategy from the start. Sancho is still in conflict with Erik Ten Hag because he is deemed not to meet standards. Surprisingly, Erik Ten Hag seemed to apply double standards to Sancho both during training and when he decided not to be included in the main squad against Arsenal.

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Newcastle have really disappointed with their games, especially the game against Brighton... I'm not surprised they lost the games against Liverpool and Man City because they were really tough matches... Now they can't lose in the next ones and lose points...
Newcastle start to this season was very bad, their performance was very different from last season. After appearing ferocious in the opening match of the season by beating Aston Villa with a final score of 5-1, Newcastle seemed to have lost their enthusiasm to play in the next match. The defeats of Manchester City and Liverpool might be used as an excuse that the opponents they faced were strong teams, but the defeat to Brighton was truly unexpected, especially since Brighton managed to score their goal three times.

Three consecutive defeats is not a good achievement for Newcastle, they must immediately improve their performance to rise from their slump. A team like Newcastle should be able to provide new challenges in the Premier League, they have sufficient funds to bring in quality players, but their movement in the transfer market looks so relaxed.
Even the big win against Aston villa surprised me a lot and after that I'm pretty sure they'll be back for another surprise in the following weeks. But it couldn't be avoided because after successfully silencing Aston Villa, Newcastle had to play several quite tough matches and it could be said that their chances of winning were very slim. However, we can understand the defeat against Manchester City or Liverpool, but when they played against a team of almost the same level as Brighton and actually lost with a quite convincing score, perhaps we could say that the players did not have more confidence after the two previous defeats. Maybe it is true that Newcastle is not like last season, but this is still the start of the season and we certainly hope that Eddie Howie can solve this problem.
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In fact, the early season problems of groups like United,

One of the problems you expressed is true. In addition, earlier this season they had problems with several injured players. This makes the balance of players really bad. Ten Hag doesn't have many other good options if the best player is injured. Besides, the injuries of their players are concomitant, and it's very bad. The expectations on Mount at the beginning were pretty good, but he was injured. Then Hojlund needed a lot of minutes, having played in the defeat against Arsenal.

The reason is, if there are several key players in the team who are injured, this can have a negative impact on the team's balance and performance. Especially if these injuries occur simultaneously. the consequences depend on the particular player, and if they are injured then teams will have a hard time finding a suitable replacement.
but I think Ten Hag can be criticized for the lack of good options when his main players are injured. and we will see the main players in Mu and the supporting players, actually the quality of the players is not much different.



I'm curious about, what kind of injured players are you referring to. Because, in reality is, Manchester United key players can still be played in the match. Players like Bruno Fernandes, Casemiro, Antony, Christian Eriksen, Rashford and Martinez also look fine and can be played in the starting lineup as well. Therefore, Manchester United should still be able to play with balance and good performance the moment.

However, if you mean about Mount and Varane, then I don't think that is exact reason either. Because anyway, at least Manchester United key players in this era are Bruno Fernandes and also Casemiro, and at this moment they are fine. So yes, try to accept defeat because after all Manchester United performance is still below expectations, so their performance should indeed be improved and there is no need to make excuses about some of the injured players.

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September 05, 2023, 02:54:00 PM
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Newcastle have really disappointed with their games, especially the game against Brighton... I'm not surprised they lost the games against Liverpool and Man City because they were really tough matches... Now they can't lose in the next ones and lose points...

I think that if i just see newcastle's performance is dropping so hard. I meant to look at how newcastle could not win one from the last three games. The quality of newcastle is still questionable. I thought that if this club can do better than it.
Brighton was a strong opponent but newcastle could not at least get draw against it. The players are not feeling confidence anymore and i think that the problem was on eddie howe.

When did Brighton become a joke? The same Brighton that flog Arsenal, flog Manchester United, beat Liverpool, and also trash Chelsea to finish the last season in the 7th place, they didn't started well but ended the season very well and that is the legacy they are still pushing to this season. Hence, why they are pushing the teams we like to the wall. They are still in good and starting the season early like the way Manchester City are killing their points in matches back to back is the best thing they can do in other to get to the top of the standing. I will take Newcastle seriously if they win their next match against Brentford, if they win congrats to them on on been on form and if they lose, the shame on them.

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Howe's substitution of some important players caused the match against Liverpool to become a blunder for Newcastle. This coach is still doing the same thing against brighton.
I think that if howe has reached its maximum capability to handle the club. I think that newcastle will be stuck started from here. I don't expect a lot from this club in UCL.

The loose streak faced by newcastle was a horrible thing as for now.

Whether the substituted players handled their part very well or not, the history is only repeating it self. Liverpool and Newcastle matches has only favour Liverpool, Newcastle last 5 matches against Liverpool is always lose on losses, so analysing this one is not different from the previous ones.
I just wonder how Newcastle are going to play their first group match against Milan that is topping their own domestic league, Newcastle has a lot of things to fix before that match.

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Btw Chelsea's problems aren't just recent as they've been going on all last season until now Cheesy
It's just that for now we just need to wait for how Pochettino steps in with the strength he has now when their players recover from injury whether Pochettino will be able to improve Chelsea's performance or not in a better direction.
Yes, indeed. We can say that Chelsea's condition is still like that, last season was also like this, and Pochettino still hasn't been able to get his squad to optimize their performance. Let's say if it's not related to management problems, but it seems that Chelsea's players haven't gotten anything that makes them excited to be motivated, Pochettino can also be said to be experiencing or encountering quite high difficulties here, so he is still unable to show his skills to optimize the players. which is in decline. Even though he is a talented and professional trainer. Well, although indeed, maybe we can say that he still needs more time to find the rhythm, tactics and strategy, as well as the most appropriate way to excite the players and also make them solid.

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In fact, the early season problems of groups like United,

One of the problems you expressed is true. In addition, earlier this season they had problems with several injured players. This makes the balance of players really bad. Ten Hag doesn't have many other good options if the best player is injured. Besides, the injuries of their players are concomitant, and it's very bad. The expectations on Mount at the beginning were pretty good, but he was injured. Then Hojlund needed a lot of minutes, having played in the defeat against Arsenal.

The reason is, if there are several key players in the team who are injured, this can have a negative impact on the team's balance and performance. Especially if these injuries occur simultaneously. the consequences depend on the particular player, and if they are injured then teams will have a hard time finding a suitable replacement.
but I think Ten Hag can be criticized for the lack of good options when his main players are injured. and we will see the main players in Mu and the supporting players, actually the quality of the players is not much different.
This is where am getting upset with Eric Hag,because he shouldn't only have a good eleven but also a good substitute. So that if there is any injury,the match will still be balanced and the injured player presence wouldn't be felt in the team work. This was also what happened at the mid of season when some players got injured and the performance and results of the club wasn't good enough. I thought that he should have learnt a lesson from last season. This will be a problem to Man united goal on fighting to win any of the competitions.

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