Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024

[shinratensei_]

Today there will be a pre-season match for Manchester United who will face a team from Norway, namely Rosenberg. Surely this will be a test match for Erik Ten Hag's strategy before the EPL starts again in August. Maybe Erik ten Hag will try some new things like rotating players or something else and also yesterday we saw that Sancho, who returned to training, might also be used.

On the other hand, Joshua Zirkhee will definitely also be involved and even though he has just been announced, we certainly can't wait to see his performance with Manchester United. Apart from all that, I think whoever wins will have no influence and the most important thing is that both teams can compete tactically in this match.

Let's goo!!!!! This is what i have been waiting for, and finally, we are entering the pre-season of Premier league. A very good match for Ten Hag to test his new squad. Jadon has revitalized his relationship with Ten Hag, and i think he is going to be playing as a left winger.

It's very obvious there may be various experiments to be tried by ten hag. Let's say to put Zirkzee and Sancho to play together against Rosenborg. Hojlund won't start this game, and i'm sure about that. Ten Hag wants to give Zirkzee more time to adapt.

However, this saddens me. United has not yet signed important players such as Jarrad Brantwaite, De Ligt, or Leny Yoro. It will be so crazy if Ten Hag is able to recruit all of them.

But, this match is very interesting to watch. I was feeling bored waiting for months without PL. Finally, we are now entering the pre-season, and i can't wait to see the new squad of united.

[DaNNy001]

Today there will be a pre-season match for Manchester United who will face a team from Norway, namely Rosenberg. Surely this will be a test match for Erik Ten Hag's strategy before the EPL starts again in August. Maybe Erik ten Hag will try some new things like rotating players or something else and also yesterday we saw that Sancho, who returned to training, might also be used.

On the other hand, Joshua Zirkhee will definitely also be involved and even though he has just been announced, we certainly can't wait to see his performance with Manchester United. Apart from all that, I think whoever wins will have no influence and the most important thing is that both teams can compete tactically in this match.

Let's goo!!!!! This is what i have been waiting for, and finally, we are entering the pre-season of Premier league. A very good match for Ten Hag to test his new squad. Jadon has revitalized his relationship with Ten Hag, and i think he is going to be playing as a left winger.

It's very obvious there may be various experiments to be tried by ten hag. Let's say to put Zirkzee and Sancho to play together against Rosenborg. Hojlund won't start this game, and i'm sure about that. Ten Hag wants to give Zirkzee more time to adapt.

However, this saddens me. United has not yet signed important players such as Jarrad Brantwaite, De Ligt, or Leny Yoro. It will be so crazy if Ten Hag is able to recruit all of them.

But, this match is very interesting to watch. I was feeling bored waiting for months without PL. Finally, we are now entering the pre-season, and i can't wait to see the new squad of united.

I don't know why you are so hyped up cause of the preseason games, although some feels its a good test of strength to some level but that's actually the opposite of what I see with these games. There are so many clubs that can actually do well and even win all their games but when it comes to the real deal they still end up flopping and I think I have seen the likes of arsenal and some other do this some years back and it's still the same for opposite.

[SmartCharpa]

Since Manchester United couldn't get good results in the last season with Ten Hag they decided to keep the coach and hire more -layers to get the team improved and this will be easier for them since they won't need to make big changes in the team.
Now it seems Manchester United hired Joshua Zirkzee the player of Bologna for five years.
They will pay 42.5 million euros for three years for this Dutch player.

Manchester United since Erik ten Hag took over the managerial position at the club haven't been convincing with their performances but that hasn't stopped the club management in signing more high profile players that'll help improve the quality of the squad. Joshua Zirkzee is the recent addition in the team and I think he'll definitely fit in because of his skillful and pacy style of football. Last season, we saw how poor Jadon Sancho was performing with the club before he had issues with the manager that led to his forced loan move to Borussia Dortmund and also witnessed how he helped the German club reach the final of the UEFA Champions League competition which I think means that Manchester United's main problem isn't the players but the manager.
Looking at the current Manchester United squad, I think they stand a good chance of having a great campaign next season but that will only be be possible of Erik ten Hag improves with his tactical approaches. With the arrival of Joshua Zirkzee, Manchester United now have quality options to choose from in the attacking line so I don't think the manager will have excuses if he fails to deliver next season.

I don't think Jadon Sancho performed badly at the start of last season since Ten Hags did not give him the time he needed to show his level of play. Sancho's performance at Dortmund was so impressive that I wondered if he was the same Sancho who played under Ten Hag from the beginning of the season. Ten Hag isn't improving his players as other managers do. Manchester United had the players last season, but they performed as if they had been promoted to the Premier League. Many clubs defeated Burnley last season, but when Manchester United faced Burnley, a team that was unable to escape the relegation zone, they drew. Despite the fact Ten Hag won two trophies in his first two years at the club, I still consider him a bad manager because he did not deliver the results we wanted last season. And for those who believe that the problem is not from him, I believe the next season will decide.

[rahmad2nd]

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In fact, because Liverpool and their new coach make it impossible for them to compete fiercely with Manchester City.
Let's just look realistically at what is experienced by other teams, especially in the Premier League, that once there is a change of coach, the team will start from the beginning again and everything needs a process and time again, that is possible for Liverpool to happen so I don't think that they will surpass the strength/performance of Manchester City.

 Manchester City is a pretty strong team now, in fact they are the strongest team in the Premier League, so don't compare it with teams that are currently building or want to develop.
If Pep Guardiola is still the coach of Manchester City then they will remain strong, regardless of whether they can defend the EPL title or not, they will still be at the top of the standings.

Theoretically based on what you say, we really agree, that's right, Liverpool will need a process to become a much tougher team than before. After all, Arne Slot has yet to make his debut with his team. So, we can't judge it yet.  So far we have only talked based on assumptions, data and statistics. However, the fact is that we cannot yet know for sure. Talking about Liverpool with its new coach, usually the new coach needs time to form the team he hopes for. that's why, Arne Slot will go through the process as Liverpool coach. However, it is not impossible that he can bring Liverpool to its best performance and provide tough competition to Manchester City. After all, the League hasn't started yet, we don't know for sure which team will be at the top of the Premier League standings. Let's see how far Arne Slot's efforts with Liverpool go.

As for City, this team has progressed and become an elite team in the Premier League. whether from the depth of the players, as well as the coach. However, that doesn't mean that this team can't be beaten or that its dominance will be broken by other teams. It could be Liverpool, Arsenal and even other competing teams. Nothing is certain, everything does not rule out the possibility of the 2024/25 season. Even though we know very well that City's chances are still big as a team that has the potential to occupy the top ranking in the Premier League, this is still an assumption and maybe some supporters will compare it. and that is very normal, especially since football is unique and has many possibilities.

[JeffBrad12]

Next season will be a very interesting one seeing that kloop won't be anymore in Liverpool and it would be more interesting seeing how some of the big team have made arrangements to actually make thing's a little hard for Manchester city because they can afford to make errors that will make Manchester city become champions of the league anymore  and Liverpool are one of the best teams that can stop there.

Liverpool looks like they will compete with a little difficulty in finding a good strategy, they must have a coach who can see the situation and condition of their players on the field. This has been a tough start to the season for Liverpool. I see that currently Arne Slot is the coach of Liverpool. Hopefully under his coaching Liverpool can achieve victory or at least stay at the top of the standings.

Even so, liverpool doesn't need to take a long time to find the strategy that can fit them. I must emphasize this: if Liverpool does not do a big overhaul, and it's unnecessary to find a new strategy that fits their gameplay. Instead, he will stick with the old strategy used by Klopp. There haven't been many changes to the liverpool.
We haven't even entered the pre-season match. And you're too early in assuming that finding a good strategy for their clubs would be difficult.

Arne Slot may still stick with the same gameplay that was used by Klopp last season, and he can still use build up or even central rotation strategy. Though Arne is very unfamiliar with the Premier League, but I trust him. I trust Arne Slot to deliver on his first season with liverpool.
Liverpool still has greater chance to stay at the top standing till the next of season.

I think coach rotation will have only a minor impact to the club's performance. And again, never expect big achievement from Arne's first season in Premier league.

Being able to finish at the top standing is more than enough.

[Helena Yu]

Since Manchester United couldn't get good results in the last season with Ten Hag they decided to keep the coach and hire more -layers to get the team improved and this will be easier for them since they won't need to make big changes in the team.
Now it seems Manchester United hired Joshua Zirkzee the player of Bologna for five years.
They will pay 42.5 million euros for three years for this Dutch player.

Nooo way, Joshua Zirkzee is taking big risk to join Manchester United instead of Milan, he must able to show off if he can score many goals, if not Manchester United will prioritize Hojlund over him. I think he choose Manchester United because the team is more popular and the manager speak same language, but Manchester United isn't a place to develop your potential.

Many good players who joined Manchester United suffered performance declines.

[naira]

It's very obvious there may be various experiments to be tried by ten hag. Let's say to put Zirkzee and Sancho to play together against Rosenborg. Hojlund won't start this game, and i'm sure about that. Ten Hag wants to give Zirkzee more time to adapt.

However, this saddens me. United has not yet signed important players such as Jarrad Brantwaite, De Ligt, or Leny Yoro. It will be so crazy if Ten Hag is able to recruit all of them.

But, this match is very interesting to watch. I was feeling bored waiting for months without PL. Finally, we are now entering the pre-season, and i can't wait to see the new squad of united.

The match was friendly but positive enough to stretch the muscles of the players who had not been seen on the field for a very long time, especially those who were not called up to the national team. Facing next season, Erik Ten Hag needs to provide many surprises because Manchester United activities in the transfer market should be able to have a positive impact. The match against Rosenborg is an entertainment match, maybe Manchester United can win, because Rosenborg goal is only to gain experience playing against EPL teams.
Sancho won the heart of Erik Ten Hag after playing extraordinary with Dortmund, he is being considered again and hopes that in the future Erik Ten Hag and Sancho will have to come to terms with their respective egos and focus on building cooperation with each other.

[hahay]

Yeah Arteta just need to improve on the pattern he is using, though there is nothing wrong with his current patterns but since they have been using it for quite a while now but they still have not been able to win the premier League

Arteta has been ending the season in the second position for the past two seasons, so he has to do something. What Arsenal wants from him is not for him to end the season in the second position, but to win the trophy for Arsenal, which he hasn’t been able to do, so there are places where he has to work on. Arsenal is always playing well, but mostly towards the end of the season, Arsenal performance does always drop, so Arteta has to fix that. Another season will soon be starting, and the two teams that I know will be fighting for the league title are Arsenal and Manchester City, but I will say Manchester City have everything to win the Premier League next season again.

It seems like you don't really know the results Arsenal got last season because anyway, last season Arsenal kept their consistency until the end of the season. But, because Manchester City have one match postponed and thus, Arsenal were still overtaken by Manchester City. So,last season Arsenal have clearly become better than the previous season, because Arteta managed to make Arsenal consistent until the end of the season.

But yes, because the competing team is Manchester City, it will still be difficult for Arsenal to beat Manchester City in the race for the Premier League trophy. But the point is, Arteta has managed to make or improve the quality and performance of Arsenal and thus, Arteta only needs to maintain his pattern. Because if Arteta still manages to make Arsenal consistent in the next season, and if at the same time Manchester City fails because it has many problems such as cheating allegations, then maybe Arsenal will get very good results next season.

[Blitzboy]

Finally the Euros have come to an end and in no time the EPL will begin and I hope Arsenal are not going to come up with another excuses of having injury prone players or players that have lost form, this is the moment I expect Arteta to start molding the team to a better standard to compete for the title not by relying on a particular player to always deliver. I hope Arteta watched every part of the tournament, especially all the England games. England lost to Spain and I have to pick out the chosen player, Saka. He hasn't been impressive in that tournament and I believe Arteta is seeing how weak he (Saka) has been with the ball, he can't even take on players like he always do in the EPL.
I think an option B is needed in the Arsenal squad for Saka's position, I have a feeling that Saka might not be as active fornl the Gunners next season unless I'm seeing a different player with the 3 Lions but a better one at Arsenal, if not I think Arteta should get another winger for the Gunners if they want to be consistent till the end of the season, to me I'd say Saka was awful throughout the tournament and it will affect the Gunners next season.

I think the main reason why the England team had a bad Euro season probably came from coach Gareth Southgate. We cannot just name and blame a player like Saka. Although coach Gareth Southgate has an excellent team of players, it is clear that they are a team full of instability. Speaking of Saka, the Arsenal star played prominently on the right wing and scored an extremely important goal for the Three Lions in the quarter-finals against Switzerland. And in the final, Bukayo Saka's performance tormented the Spanish defense. Saka's great speed and quality crosses helped England equalize 1-1 with a goal from Cole Palmer. I don't know why you said that Saka was a bad player throughout the tournament. Look at Foden, Harry Kane, or even Bellingham, Have they played better than Saka?

Up to now, Saka has been a key player for coach Arteta since he was appointed Arsenal's head coach in 2019. I believe Arteta still maintains that opinion after the Euro season has ended.

Blaming Saka, people? That is merely lazy analysis. This young child is a star. Arteta lets him run at Arsenal; he is explosive. With England, it is different though. Southgate has his own ideas, possibly holding Saka somewhat back. These young folks really need to be controlled. You cannot run them straight forward. You really ought to rotate them and give them breaks. Thats football 101. Look at what occurred with Foden! Though he is a talent, he wilted at the finish. England has to become wiser, fundamentally. They have potential and the skill. They must change their plans, give these children a break, and permit them to play their game, nevertheless. We shall then see the actual England.

[Palakka]

It seems like you don't really know the results Arsenal got last season because anyway, last season Arsenal kept their consistency until the end of the season. But, because Manchester City have one match postponed and thus, Arsenal were still overtaken by Manchester City. So,last season Arsenal have clearly become better than the previous season, because Arteta managed to make Arsenal consistent until the end of the season.

But yes, because the competing team is Manchester City, it will still be difficult for Arsenal to beat Manchester City in the race for the Premier League trophy. But the point is, Arteta has managed to make or improve the quality and performance of Arsenal and thus, Arteta only needs to maintain his pattern. Because if Arteta still manages to make Arsenal consistent in the next season, and if at the same time Manchester City fails because it has many problems such as cheating allegations, then maybe Arsenal will get very good results next season.

The competition that occurred last season was quite tight between Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool, but slowly at the end of the season Liverpool and Arsenal slipped so that it was possible for Manchester City to become a team that continued to lead the championship until the end of the season, not only last season, even the previous season Arsenal has been able to give a lot of competition and pressure to Manchester City in maintaining their chances of becoming champions, In the last two seasons Arsenal have been quite consistent title contenders for Manchester City so I think they are also starting to deserve to be our favorites to win the Premier League next season.

The last two seasons should be an experience and a lesson for Arteta to get even better, Arteta needs to analyze where their team weaknesses lie so that it is very difficult to be able to break Manchester City dominance in the league so far, Arsenal who are often inconsistent at the end of the season must be able to improve their mentality and squad next season to be able to be better than last season, so that it will provide a greater chance to conquer Manchester City and become the Premier League champion next season.

[imamusma]

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The competition that occurred last season was quite tight between Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool, but slowly at the end of the season Liverpool and Arsenal slipped so that it was possible for Manchester City to become a team that continued to lead the championship until the end of the season, not only last season, even the previous season Arsenal has been able to give a lot of competition and pressure to Manchester City in maintaining their chances of becoming champions, In the last two seasons Arsenal have been quite consistent title contenders for Manchester City so I think they are also starting to deserve to be our favorites to win the Premier League next season.

The last two seasons should be an experience and a lesson for Arteta to get even better, Arteta needs to analyze where their team weaknesses lie so that it is very difficult to be able to break Manchester City dominance in the league so far, Arsenal who are often inconsistent at the end of the season must be able to improve their mentality and squad next season to be able to be better than last season, so that it will provide a greater chance to conquer Manchester City and become the Premier League champion next season.

There are many things that Arteta must improve in order to break Manchester City dominance, especially increasing the depth of the squad more evenly. In my opinion, the strategy implemented by Arteta is very good, he has learned a lot when he was Pep Guardiola assistant, but Arteta still lacks quality rotation options. Meanwhile, regarding the winning mentality, Arsenal seems to have this now, because it is no longer easy to lose consistency. Arteta opportunity to bring Arsenal to become champions next season is very open, all parties involved in the club still fully support Arteta.

[Sexylizzy2813]

The EPL player of the season Foden has the worse performance in the just concluded competition in Germany and it seems the award wasn't suppose to be for him. At the beginning of last season Foden was seen as a World class player because of his performance with the club, how he went about business in the EPL and as well the UCL, wonderful performance and now the England supporters are piss at how he played in Germany which we know isn't how we expected him to play.
The fans have come to say that Foden only plays well when he is surrounded by quality players like the ones at Manchester City, they bring out the best in him but when he plays outside the City players is nothing to write home about. Is it that Phil Foden is only good when he plays with City than the 3 Lions? To me I'd say yes, he (Foden) can't play out his best without the guys at Man City.

[BitcoinHunt3r]

There are many things that Arteta must improve in order to break Manchester City dominance, especially increasing the depth of the squad more evenly. In my opinion, the strategy implemented by Arteta is very good, he has learned a lot when he was Pep Guardiola assistant, but Arteta still lacks quality rotation options. Meanwhile, regarding the winning mentality, Arsenal seems to have this now, because it is no longer easy to lose consistency. Arteta opportunity to bring Arsenal to become champions next season is very open, all parties involved in the club still fully support Arteta.

I have been saying this for the last 2 seasons that Arsenal is one of the champion candidates after Manchester City, we know Arteta has the ability to do it, it's just that Arsenal can't do it alone I mean, to destroy Manchester City there must be another team that can prevent them from collecting more points and I hope Chelsea is the right team to do it. According to several sources, these 2 teams are intensively preparing their teams to win the title and has negotiated with several players, yeah maybe we have to wait a few weeks.

So far we have not seen any transfer activity between these teams including Manchester City, there are only a few new players returning on loan. The latest rumor is that Manchester City is eyeing a goalkeeper from Real Madrid, Andriy Lunin is on the list yeah, maybe Man City anticipates that their 3 goalkeepers will get injured or retire because the average age of their goalkeeper is 30 to 38 years.

[Spaceman1000$]

Since Manchester United couldn't get good results in the last season with Ten Hag they decided to keep the coach and hire more -layers to get the team improved and this will be easier for them since they won't need to make big changes in the team.
Now it seems Manchester United hired Joshua Zirkzee the player of Bologna for five years.
They will pay 42.5 million euros for three years for this Dutch player.

Nooo way, Joshua Zirkzee is taking big risk to join Manchester United instead of Milan, he must able to show off if he can score many goals, if not Manchester United will prioritize Hojlund over him. I think he choose Manchester United because the team is more popular and the manager speak same language, but Manchester United isn't a place to develop your potential.

Many good players who joined Manchester United suffered performance declines.

LoL i just read through your comment and I couldn't hold back my laughter, so Manchester united has become this worse that you think the youngster will not do too well with the RED DEVILS.
The thing is that, Ten hag has been criticized enough during last season, and I think he is putting up a strong army for which Joshua zirkzee will be part of this coming season. Manchester united needs Frontliners that will create opportunities for goals, so believe he can be shuffling Rasmus Hojlund, Marcus Rashford and Joshua zirkzee or sometimes give a perfect blind of the various Frontliners.

[lizarder]

Nooo way, Joshua Zirkzee is taking big risk to join Manchester United instead of Milan, he must able to show off if he can score many goals, if not Manchester United will prioritize Hojlund over him. I think he choose Manchester United because the team is more popular and the manager speak same language, but Manchester United isn't a place to develop your potential.

Many good players who joined Manchester United suffered performance declines.

Erik Ten Hak has two options now for the striker position and the arrival of Joshua Zirkzee will provide competition for Hojlund if he does not play at his best. Why are you so sure that Man United is not a place to develop potential and I think he decided to move to Man United because he wanted to develop his talent to be better. Previously it was true that many players who after joining Man United experienced a decline in performance.

But now everything is a little different because Man United have made big changes and Joshua Zirkzee can play above his current performance if he continues to get a place. I think there will be big changes for Man United next season because they are serious about preparing changes starting from players and management.

[GiftedMAN]

Since Manchester United couldn't get good results in the last season with Ten Hag they decided to keep the coach and hire more -layers to get the team improved and this will be easier for them since they won't need to make big changes in the team.
Now it seems Manchester United hired Joshua Zirkzee the player of Bologna for five years.
They will pay 42.5 million euros for three years for this Dutch player.

Nooo way, Joshua Zirkzee is taking big risk to join Manchester United instead of Milan, he must able to show off if he can score many goals, if not Manchester United will prioritize Hojlund over him. I think he choose Manchester United because the team is more popular and the manager speak same language, but Manchester United isn't a place to develop your potential.

Many good players who joined Manchester United suffered performance declines.

LoL i just read through your comment and I couldn't hold back my laughter, so Manchester united has become this worse that you think the youngster will not do too well with the RED DEVILS.
The thing is that, Ten hag has been criticized enough during last season, and I think he is putting up a strong army for which Joshua zirkzee will be part of this coming season. Manchester united needs Frontliners that will create opportunities for goals, so believe he can be shuffling Rasmus Hojlund, Marcus Rashford and Joshua zirkzee or sometimes give a perfect blind of the various Frontliners.

Spaceman1000$, what do you expect to get from people when they keep seeing the team struggling every season, do you think the team will not be criticized and the players that wants to join the team not be discharged? The coach was brought in to bring a positive change in the team so despite winning the FA cup last season, he should prove himself this season by changing the performance of his team and taking them back to the best position where they belong.

The new signings of Manchester United should be charged to put the team at heart and performance very well and I think the best thing for him to do among the strikers now is to choose the regular starter based on the performance of the player.

[BALIK]

I'm happy if Sancho and Erik Ten Hag have made up and this is a problem that should be resolved by both of them. Manchester United certainly doesn't want this feud to continue, especially since being loaned to Dortmund, Sancho's performance has improved very sharply. It would be a big regret if Manchester United had to lose a player like him.

Good reunion between Jadon Sancho and Erik ten Hag after both of them have internal conflict and not Sancho already for Manchester United pre season match will start two days later against Rosenborg. I believe with top perform of Jadon Sancho half season with Dortmund and success qualifying to final round in Champion League he will get priority for Erik ten Hag tactician for next season.
Although Jadon Sancho have been with Manchester United training still don't know his future will sell or not regarding Juventus become most favorite team for signing him next season.

Few days later, some Premier League team will start with their pre season match after break out around one month and some team have training more than one until two weeks. I believe for next season the Premier League tittle race very interested exactly Chelsea failed in this season start well by signing top qualities players and want return back as the big four of premier league teams for next season.

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/jadon-sancho-returns-to-man-utd-pre-season-training-july-2024

Sancho is undoubtedly a usable player for Ten Hag. Manchester United will have to think about the budget a lot right now. And keeping a player like Sancho is definitely better for Manchester United instead of spending money on some other players. So I believe that's why they have kept him.

If we think about it, I believe Manchester United has actually kept him in the squad but they will actually sell him if they get good money for him.

I've seen recent news Man Utd manager Erik Ten Hag confirmed that he has got reassurances from Sancho that he doesn't want to leave and continue with ETH. Erik ten Hag also confirmed that he is preparing the squad for 2024-25 season and he keeps Sancho in his plan and takes him back to training. But I think Sancho is also not going to hesitate to leave Manchester United if he does get another good club to approach him.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

The international tournaments are now over so focus switches to domestic football. I’m looking forward to the new season but anxious to see what we get with Klop-less Liverpool.

I want to see us sign some new players. No excuses for delays now, the international football is over.

[Juse14]

The international tournaments are now over so focus switches to domestic football. I’m looking forward to the new season but anxious to see what we get with Klop-less Liverpool.

I want to see us sign some new players. No excuses for delays now, the international football is over.

It would be no easy task for Liverpool to perform without Klopp, given his influence and successful tenure. The recruitment of new players takes on vital importance if the team is to remain competitive.

There are several key areas that Liverpool need to reinforce if they are to ensure a sustained performance in the upcoming season. While it is important to keep up the same vigor and gameplay strategies established under Klopp, adaptation to a new coach and teammates is equally crucial.

And as a kopites, I only wish that our team management will soon make moves to bring in the required talent. With the addition of right players, liverpool can take on the new season with hope and high spirits. Hopefully Liverpool will still be successful even if they are big changes in the team, while treading unknown waters.

[barbara44]

criticising Arteta on what he has done would be very naive and foolish. This dude has managed to turn one of the most "cursed" teams in the league, into a team that is strong and powerful, sure they lost it in the last two years but I agree that I rather be that close and lose like he did, compared to losing a lot compared to what others did before him.

Arsenal has a good future as well, they built a squad that is sort of young, sure there are few older gents in the team here and there, but they did alright and I think we could see them do fine over course of longer time as well, we just need to consider how that would work. On top of that, we could make a case about how if Arsenal wins any now, that would be financially allowing them to get even better too.