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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 32 (47.8%)
Liverpool - 10 (14.9%)
Arsenal - 21 (31.3%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 3 (4.5%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.5%)
Total Voters: 67

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September 29, 2024, 10:05:40 PM

Before this round, City were favourites with odds of around 2.4 and Arsenal were just behind at 2.5. But Liverpool were priced very poorly (6.50), Chelsea even worse (26.0). Tomorrow the last game of this round will be played and bookmakers will update the odds for the title. It is very likely that City will no longer be favourites and may even fall to third place.
It's not that bookmakers wait for the current round to end and then update the odds. Bookmakers update the odds regularly.
Currently, the odds for Arsenal to win the title are 2.25 and for Manchester City are 3.

It depends on the bookmakers, the ones where I play only post odds between rounds, until the round is closed there are no odds. Since you are showing current quotes, you could indicate their source, the figures that I cited, I took from sportsbet.io
By the way, your figures don't look real, 2.25 for Arsenal considering that Liverpool is leading? Well, maybe Arsenal is strong, yes, but where is the space for Liverpool and Chelsea with figures of 2.25 and 3?

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September 29, 2024, 10:07:04 PM

True, the players looked down today but I don’t think they are trying to sabotage Erik Ten Hag. His future at Manchester United has been in danger for a long time now. This is Erik Ten Hag’s third season of coaching this set of players, he recruited these players himself, they were not forced on him so we can’t put the blame on the players. IMO United were going to lose the match even if they didn’t get a red card. Erik Ten Hag needs to leave if Manchester United wants to survive this season.

At some point, the management of ManU must also accept that Ten Hag is not the right candidate to lead the team back to the top places where such a traditional club actually belongs. It's a shame that ManU don't simply change their coach.

At least Chelsea seem to have managed to get back to the top, I'm happy about that. The Premier League is very exciting this year!
This is my major concern about the team, seeing Chelsea improving let’s watch if this last and I strongly believe it will definitely last long meanwhile Manchester United followed same move at the end the team still decided to retain Ten Hag. Ten Hag might not be the problem 100% but he has failed to lead the team like other coach do for example we’ve seen different teams play either win, draw or lose but why do Manchester United always lose regular, when last did they win a game it’s obvious both the players and coach need to work on themselves more. Tottenham winning Manchester United at Old Trafford is disappointing I wish they performed better, after this season I believe the team will sack Ten Hag.

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September 29, 2024, 10:10:53 PM

By the way, your figures don't look real, 2.25 for Arsenal considering that Liverpool is leading? Well, maybe Arsenal is strong, yes, but where is the space for Liverpool and Chelsea with figures of 2.25 and 3?
I also took those numbers from sportsbet.io and they should be correct. The odds for Liverpool to win the title are now 5.


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September 29, 2024, 10:19:08 PM

Liverpool is currently topping the premier league,and they are followed by Mancity,after City were held to a draw by Newcastle.We won't be surprised if City go on to draw or lose their next game,reason being that Rodri,their best player is out injured.It is obvious that City always struggled when Rodri is not on the pitch.If his injury makes him out of the season,then City will not even sit second on the table,they might either be third or fourth.
With what I've seen so far,I predict Arsenal to win the premier league this season.Everybody is saying it is their season,and with the solidity of their defence,I can back them to win the tittle.
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September 29, 2024, 10:24:26 PM

Today's game between the Red Devils vs Spurs is very entertaining and I enjoyed how aggressive Ange Postecoglou players were in that encounter, Manchester United couldn't get hold of themselves before and after the red card was shown to Fernandes, Tottenham was running UTD down and they played like they (UTD) were clueless.
Another thing about ETH is that he won't sit down and watch the game and find out where the boys are not doing well but he'll stand and be looking as if he's planning on making something happen but nothing positive is coming out of him looking at how awful Man UTD are playing, instead of saying something helpful you see him squeezing his face and is only Ruud van Nistelrooy that only try to talk some sense into the players. Erik ten Heg can't be the manager of UTD anymore, the more he stays the more the team continue to play their way down the table.
This man doesn't have any plans of improving the team only words that can't help the team that's what ETH have to offer, tomorrow you hear him talking to the press as if he did something big. With the two games that was played today is only Manchester United who refused to celebrate even if it's an offside goal, today Ipswich performed better than Manchester United.











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September 29, 2024, 10:26:03 PM

By the way, your figures don't look real, 2.25 for Arsenal considering that Liverpool is leading? Well, maybe Arsenal is strong, yes, but where is the space for Liverpool and Chelsea with figures of 2.25 and 3?
I also took those numbers from sportsbet.io and they should be correct. The odds for Liverpool to win the title are now 5.


I think the reason why Arsenal are ahead of Liverpool in the list of teams with more better probability of winning the English Premier League  title this season is because of their records in the past two seasons but what I do not understand is how Arsenal is given 2.5 odds while defending champions Manchester City is given 3 odds. I will not agree with bookmakers on this one because to me, I think Manchester City have more chances of winning the league than any other team in the league

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September 29, 2024, 10:35:31 PM

This is my major concern about the team, seeing Chelsea improving let’s watch if this last and I strongly believe it will definitely last long meanwhile Manchester United followed same move at the end the team still decided to retain Ten Hag. Ten Hag might not be the problem 100% but he has failed to lead the team like other coach do for example we’ve seen different teams play either win, draw or lose but why do Manchester United always lose regular, when last did they win a game it’s obvious both the players and coach need to work on themselves more. Tottenham winning Manchester United at Old Trafford is disappointing I wish they performed better, after this season I believe the team will sack Ten Hag.
Ten Hag is the person most responsible for Manchester United performance.
The nightmare at Old Trafford continues, the stadium is no longer scary for visiting teams, at least as long as Manchester United is handled by Ten Hag. Management support for Ten Hag is now being questioned, to what extent they will continue to trust the Dutch manager. The performance shown is not commensurate with the budget that has been spent, Ten Hag must immediately fix all weaknesses to secure his position from being fired.
Chelsea have even done better than last season, especially at the end of the season with Pochettino. This season, with Enzo Maresca, they are slowly showing signs of a more promising revival than Manchester United. The defeat from Tottenham, made expectations for them lower when they visited Porto headquarters, in the continuation of the second match in the Europa League. It is sad to see the team that was once successful under Sir Alex Ferguson, now sitting in 12th place in the standings with 7 points, 8 points behind Liverpool who are at the top of the points table.

 
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September 29, 2024, 10:46:46 PM

By the way, your figures don't look real, 2.25 for Arsenal considering that Liverpool is leading? Well, maybe Arsenal is strong, yes, but where is the space for Liverpool and Chelsea with figures of 2.25 and 3?
I also took those numbers from sportsbet.io and they should be correct. The odds for Liverpool to win the title are now 5.



Personally I will go with this odd for now Arsenal who are third on the table are my predictions to win the league if Manchester city fail to win it, Arsenal have been on this for three seasons even though they have drawn two matches already they are still in perfect shape to go and contest, Arsenal also since last season have been defensively good or strong and that to Me is a very important part when you are fighting for the league. Ferguson once said that a good attack will only win you games while A good defense will win you trophies and I agree with that statement because it is not all matches will be won easily some will be a hard fought win with defense coming through.

As for Liverpool they still looking a bit shaky and I agree with the 5.0 odd probably will get a more favourable when they stay more consistent, as for Chelsea we can’t simply because of them winning four matches in a row count them favorites Already and their rating is deserving. Now to Manchester city seriously I would say a 2.0 will have been better but higher than Arsenal is still debatable, now they are going to be without Rodri for the rest of the season which means that they will have to struggle in some matches considering that their form with him is usually not that great so maybe the 3.0 seems deserving even though I will want them lower than that

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September 29, 2024, 10:48:40 PM

As long as Ten Hag is still United's coach, it is highly recommended not to bet on United. I already thought United would have a hard time winning against Tottenham. but I didn't think that a 0-3 score would embarrass United at home.
Playing with 11 players I think it will still be difficult for United. especially with 10 players, it is clearly a hard blow for Ten Hag and an important consideration for the club to be able to correct Ten Hag's performance.
The image without words obviously illustrates the frustration of Manchester united fans now on ETH. Lol  Grin

With or without the red card that puts United to a 10 men Tottenham would have still won the game because even before the Bruno Fernandes was sent off at 42 minutes they were not having a good game but struggling as Tottenham were already dominating the game at then. The red card only made things a lot more easier for Spurs and they didn't hesitate to take the chance.

Don't know why the Glaziers still have hope on ETH to have not shown him the exit door, don't know what they see in him that we're not seeing. Arsenal had a red card against Manchester City last weekend but didn't conceded a defeat in an away game, which makes it very clear that Erik Ten Hag has no excuse for this shameless defeat and  should accept it that he's out of ideas for the team's improvement.


PS: The image above isn't originally mine, got it from the WhatsApp status of a Manchester united fan  who happens to be my friend.

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Among other things.
Manchester city will drop points but will still be major contenders.
checking of those things you mentioned is really important and, I think it should be more like a role for the administrators and their team/ board of trustees whatever... I'd say if they need outstanding performances, they got a lot of work to do to achieve it. It' doesn't change on it own - you gotta project it!

City's performance has been dropping massively for the atleast, the past 5 or 6 matches already played. No matter how strong and formidable they play sometimes, a team's performance depends on the players... Rodri is hospitalized and he's struggling to keep up his standards.
You didn't actually follow the conversation where it emanated and you did actually miss the important parts of the conversation and that's why your comment didn't flow.
We were discussing how bookmakers change the odds of who will win the EPL title. According to their recent update, Arsenal is more favoured to win the EPL title than Manchester city which I think it is because of the absence of Rodri and KDB, besides Rodri's absence is rumoured to be long term, maybe till the end of the season.

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I can't believe his performance this session went to mad after Chelsea requisitioned Enzo. A coach maximizes him to front and give him free space to move in every where. When I look at how he created a goal from left and right position, that very incredible player to him to be on everywhere, and make brighton player difficulty maintaining him .
Actually he is a very talented player, his ability is better than others in the club. It's just that last season, the team's overall performance was very bad, while he needs supports to be able to do his function well, both as an attacking midfielder and a striker in the front line. And this season, Chelsea's performance is also getting better, from several lines at least better than last season.

With or without the red card that puts United to a 10 men Tottenham would have still won the game because even before the Bruno Fernandes was sent off at 42 minutes they were not having a good game but struggling as Tottenham were already dominating the game at then. The red card only made things a lot more easier for Spurs and they didn't hesitate to take the chance.
Yes, Tottenham were already ahead even before the red card. And Fernandes' mistake that caused him to get a red card made Man United's performance with 10 players even worse, then, Tottenham could casually slaughter them. Poor Fernandes. But indeed, Tottenham's performance is indeed much better than the hosts.


Source: Bruno Fernandes

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September 29, 2024, 11:14:46 PM

Erik Ten Hag’s specialty is blaming his players for his poor tactics. Three years as manager and the team still lacks direction. Can’t knock United for trying to build a project but Chelsea were also building a project last season and  they are showing progress this season. Erik Ten Hag has spent over 500million in the transfer market with no tangible results to show for buying so many Dutch players.

BTW the “toxic” player that needed to leave for the team to improve scored an hat trick against Spurs at Old Trafford in 2022.


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September 29, 2024, 11:23:04 PM

By the way, your figures don't look real, 2.25 for Arsenal considering that Liverpool is leading? Well, maybe Arsenal is strong, yes, but where is the space for Liverpool and Chelsea with figures of 2.25 and 3?
I also took those numbers from sportsbet.io and they should be correct. The odds for Liverpool to win the title are now 5.


I think the reason why Arsenal are ahead of Liverpool in the list of teams with more better probability of winning the English Premier League  title this season is because of their records in the past two seasons but what I do not understand is how Arsenal is given 2.5 odds while defending champions Manchester City is given 3 odds. I will not agree with bookmakers on this one because to me, I think Manchester City have more chances of winning the league than any other team in the league
The odds that has been provided with Arsenal over Liverpool may be linked with the performance that this team has pulled inning the last several seasons, and the notably stable team and young players. There’s been notable changes in arsenal, particularly the transformations within the league season which put arsenal among the most formidable teams of the season. However, the gap in odds between Arsenal and Manchester City may seem small though surprising given the performance of City over recent years.

Other considerations might include fixture lists, form, fatigue or sheer mental attitude and yet, by any means that you care to consider, there is still the sneaking feeling that Manchester City are the more likely team. This is especially due to the fact that City have it in terms of quality and this makes them the favourite most of the time. But as we all know in this world of betting many things go by statistics and at times what happens on the field is not what emerges on paper.

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September 29, 2024, 11:31:23 PM

As long as Ten Hag is still United's coach, it is highly recommended not to bet on United. I already thought United would have a hard time winning against Tottenham. but I didn't think that a 0-3 score would embarrass United at home.
Playing with 11 players I think it will still be difficult for United. especially with 10 players, it is clearly a hard blow for Ten Hag and an important consideration for the club to be able to correct Ten Hag's performance.
Erik Ten Hag does not have any excuse for this humiliation at Old Trafford. The players Ten Hag has in his squad were all bought by him….players he knows from his beloved former club/league. So what could be the problem? Maybe Manchester United needs to give Ten Hag more time and backing to get it right. God knows the other managers were sacked for far less than what Erik Ten Hag is getting away with.

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Seriously i just got to know that there is no hope for Manchester United in this league. Most fans would blame the loss on the fact that they had a red card in the game and that made them short of one man. You and i know that even without the red card Manchester United would have lost the game still. The problem is not only on the coach but with the players. Because that was an unprofessional football played by Fernandez. Going directly for the leg intentionally is a misconduct in the rules.

There is nothing to talk about Manchester United as they continue to record poor performances, after the disappointment in the Europa League then in today's match then I agree to avoid Manchester United in every match as if bad luck kept chasing them. Now Manchester United is in 12th position in the standings with 3 defeats from 6 matches so it's normal if they say Manchester United can't expect anything this season I mean they have no hope of getting any tickets and any titles.

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Tottenham and Manchester United are quite suitable in terms of team performance, considering the two teams rely on gambling, Tottenham team is more aggressive.  Because even though they scored early, more people gambled on Manchester United. Because Manchester United team players became more vulnerable after losing Fernandes in the attack department. Due to which the Manchester United team lost in this match with a margin of three zero.

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Liverpool are now top of the Premier League table. For the first time in four seasons, I’m beginning to have doubts that Manchester City will win the league. Injuries have not been kind to City, it will be a long time before they can get a replacement for Rodri, before then the damage may already be done. Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea are looking very good this season and one of them are likely to win the title this season.

Before this round, City were favourites with odds of around 2.4 and Arsenal were just behind at 2.5. But Liverpool were priced very poorly (6.50), Chelsea even worse (26.0). Tomorrow the last game of this round will be played and bookmakers will update the odds for the title. It is very likely that City will no longer be favourites and may even fall to third place.
I am quite pleased. And I am also pleased that Ten Hag's dismissal is apparently inevitable.

Nothing surprises. City faced a setback in their game against Newcastle. Their opponents fully farmed three points. It's really changing the odds a lot for the winner. But, I guess, the outright is always changing. It will until we're closer to the late season. The same situation may be happening again.

City was unfavored until mid-season. But, they regained their top spot by season's end. Surprisingly, Chelsea is slowly but surely trying to enter into the title race too. It's probably we will have 4 teams to compete for the title.

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September 29, 2024, 11:58:40 PM

Erik Ten Hag’s specialty is blaming his players for his poor tactics. Three years as manager and the team still lacks direction. Can’t knock United for trying to build a project but Chelsea were also building a project last season and  they are showing progress this season. Erik Ten Hag has spent over 500million in the transfer market with no tangible results to show for buying so many Dutch players.

BTW the “toxic” player that needed to leave for the team to improve scored an hat trick against Spurs at Old Trafford in 2022.


From the very first season ten hag arrived Manchester United where he literally sent away important players so as to bri g in his interest, I knew Manchester United was going to have issues to face ahead, he sent away one of the best goal keepers Manchester United ever had who had played over a decade for Manchester United to bring in a keeper who not perfectly comparable with the team even after three seasons, furthermore he kept pushing blames at players and sending away as much as he could only to bring in those who supposedly first into his plan but haven't been able to give thw team utmost productivity to scale heights as expected even after spending such huge sums in thw transfer markets these years, it's high time Manchester United looks into letting go of him regardless of the immediate consequences and begin to rebuild the team with another manager who will at least focus on working with thw players than always throwing blames all around.

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Tottenham and Manchester United are quite suitable in terms of team performance, considering the two teams rely on gambling, Tottenham team is more aggressive.  Because even though they scored early, more people gambled on Manchester United. Because Manchester United team players became more vulnerable after losing Fernandes in the attack department. Due to which the Manchester United team lost in this match with a margin of three zero.
How are we going to put our hopes on Man United who are clearly not aggressive in the game, the game is not in line with their game with Eric Ten of course it will only be a waste of money in betting on their game, Man United will not build anything under Ten Hag of course he does not know what he should prepare in managing the team as a coach, the game has not changed since he came and I think Man United should take the decision to remove him from the current head coach, they Man United are below 10 in the standings of course this is a bad thing they expect from Man United fans.

Seeing how other coaches work with abilities like Enzo Maresca and also the Liverpool head coach they just returned but were able to make their team very satisfying for their fans both are in the top 5 of the EPL rankings, of course Man United management must fire him and look for a definite figure in the development of Man United for the future because if this continues then Man United's chances of being in the top 5 are getting harder.

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Tottenham and Manchester United are quite suitable in terms of team performance, considering the two teams rely on gambling, Tottenham team is more aggressive.  Because even though they scored early, more people gambled on Manchester United. Because Manchester United team players became more vulnerable after losing Fernandes in the attack department. Due to which the Manchester United team lost in this match with a margin of three zero.

Between Tottenham and Manchester United, the betting rate was higher for Tottenham while Manchester United was tipped to win. But I already thought that it will not be possible for Manchester United to win the match with Tottenham and they are not that strong at the moment. Looking at Manchester United's current situation, I think they will probably end up at the bottom of the points table this season, their focus is not very good. The coach of the team is currently not able to build and strengthen the team well, Manchester United is not playing with the best performance. Anyway, I think Manchester United need to change their game and show their best performance otherwise this season will definitely be bad for them.

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