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August 25, 2020, 03:21:07 AM
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Many believes that winning always favor the houses, but there's still many who believes that in a certain point and chance, they could take the win. There's nothing wrong with that, what is wrong is when we have a losing streak but still continues to play anyway.

Have you ever wonder what happens if someone bets a huge amound of fund, the same way as those who betted all in in a casino game then loses? This topic could help us understand why we should be disciplined enough, and why we should learn how to stop at certain point in gambling.

I've read this artcile What Happens to the Biggest Gambling Losers? stating some instances of biggest gambling losers.

10. Chun Lei "Samrostan" Zhu - Lost $15 million
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lost about $15 million while he learned the ropes playing high stakes poker online.
There's nothing wrong about learning new a game or strategy, but be cautious and try to bet gradually.

9. Akio Kashiwagi - Lost $19 million
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in 1992, he was found brutally murdered in his home near Mount Fuji, stabbed over 150 times.
Spending too much in a casino especially putting yourself into a huge debt from a variety of casino could risk even your life. Learn to bet an amount that you can afford to lose from your own pocket and do not risk funds that you aren't sure if you have the capacity to pay.

8. Gus Hansen - Lost $21.7 million
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He has accrued $21.7 million in online poker losses at Full Tilt.
We all have our favorite casino and, online and physical casinos differ depending on how used we are to it. By changing our platform, this doesn't mean that we can apply our strategies and be wild in betting already. It's a new environment and it's better to start leaning again.

7. Kerry Packer - Lost $30 million
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he would place enormous wagers on the roulette wheels of London’s Crockford’s casino, only to lose on all of them.
Despite of his huge loss in gambling sprees, Kerry Packer is known to still have huge assets and $30 million is just a small amount for him. This is the ideal gambler for me, since he know that he could still live in peace even if he lose a huge amount.

6. Michael Jordan - Lost $? million
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he lost $2.5 million in six hours of playing blackjack. It is also rumored that his first retirement was actually a secret suspension from the NBA.
Knowing that we have a very popular image, becoming a gambler could impact how the way people see us in public. Perhaps, being a politician or a person who handles financial insitition could induce doubts for people to believe on us even if we really don't have an intention to gamble even a part of funds that doesn't belongs to us.

5. Archie Karas - Lost $40 million
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In 2015, he was caught cheating at a San Diego-area casino, marking cards. He was also caught cheating by fixing chips
He was believed to turned $50 dollars into $40 million by playing poker. With years of playing, he lost it all and found out that he was cheating in casinos. There's nothing wrong with losing because there's always a time to stand up again and play. But there's no hope if we got banned from casinos through cheating.

4. John Daly - Lost $55 million
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While he won an impressive $35 million, he lost and even more staggering $90 million, working out to a total loss of $55 million.
After losing, John Daly switched from $5000 slot machines to $25 ones. There's nothing wrong by playing in moderation, it means that we are learning from our mistakes and it is a way to stop the impact of a huge losing streak. Our goal in gambling is not just to be rich but to experience the fun in it. $25 slot machine is still a slot machine right?

3. Omar Siddiqui - Lost $121 million
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Even as he earned $225,000 a year, he once lost $8 million in a day.
He played at the Venetian and MGM Grand while having a multi-million dollar debts from other casinos at the same time. It was also said that he used $65 million from his company in gambling. If we could think of a way to pay out debts, gambling is not the best idea, as it could put us down to deeper debt if we didn't succeed.

2. Zhenli Ye Gon - Lost $125 million
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Between 2004 and 2007, Zhenli gambled away over $125 million – in cash. He was among the largest up-front cash-only players at the Venetian and in Las Vegas in general.
After losing $125 million in gambling, in 2007, Zhenli's home in mexico was raided and authorities found out a huge amount of drug money. It's a big learning for us to always use a clean money in gambling. That's why sometimes, casinos have bad images, since movies are showing big gamblers who gets their money from illegal activities.

1. Terrance Watanabe - Lost $127 million
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Terry Watanabe said he bet more than $825 million, losing $127 million in Caesars Palace and The Rio casinos in 2007.
He was said to lose for about $5 million a day playing 24 hourse in casinos and with this, he was burried to dept. IMO, it impacts his health allot with the lifestyle he lived, that he got a cancer. As a gambler, we should take good care of ourselves and spend a most of our time than gambling. Money isn't always the solution for happiness, perhaps, bonding with our family is better and building memories with them are the treasure that we can keep forever.
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August 25, 2020, 05:14:49 AM
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The last guy's case feels like a gambler's nightmare losing everything, borrowed money to the casinos and it affected his health too. Number 7 was the least worst as he was one of the richest person in his country.

I don't get how Michael Jordan ended up in the middle spot when his losses was unknown.

I remember there was another former nba player that lost a lot from gambling but I couldn't find the thread.

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August 25, 2020, 05:59:05 AM
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Those are some huge amounts of money to be lost in gambling.I don’t understand the guys who didn’t have debt and played online or offline gambling and lost these huge amounts.Anyone could have lived a peaceful and joyable life and even secure their children or grand children lives.I guess once a gambler always a gambler.

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August 25, 2020, 06:17:27 AM
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Most gamblers listed had won some decent amount and ended up pushing their luck due to greed and lost double pf what they have won. Gambling can lead to something tragic like #9 Akio Kashiwagi there are numbers of cases related to gambling that lead to crime due to casino debt. Gambling problems should be taken seriously, or else it could end up tragically. It can ruin your life and even the lives of people close to you.

I guess this is worth reading, especially those who are planning to gamble full time.
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August 25, 2020, 06:34:23 AM
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Most gamblers listed had won some decent amount and ended up pushing their luck due to greed and lost double pf what they have won. Gambling can lead to something tragic like #9 Akio Kashiwagi there are numbers of cases related to gambling that lead to crime due to casino debt. Gambling problems should be taken seriously, or else it could end up tragically. It can ruin your life and even the lives of people close to you.

I guess this is worth reading, especially those who are planning to gamble full time.

Most of them are already degenerate gamblers so no doubt they will spend again all their winnings in gambling. But if you are a responsible gambler, don't let yourself be in deep debt just to satisfy your desire to gamble. Because if you will follow what you want and not what you should do, you will end up broke and in misery.
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August 25, 2020, 07:35:07 AM
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Interesting list - I've heard of a couple of them (especially Kerry Packer who won and lost, then won again) It'd be interesting to hear about some of the "big" losses incurred by people who'd committed fraud either from their employer, or loved ones to get the funds to gamble other people's livelihoods away.

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8. Gus Hansen - Lost $21.7 million
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He has accrued $21.7 million in online poker losses at Full Tilt.
We all have our favorite casino and, online and physical casinos differ depending on how used we are to it. By changing our platform, this doesn't mean that we can apply our strategies and be wild in betting already. It's a new environment and it's better to start leaning again.


Poor Gus Hansen, he is an awesome gambler, not only a poker pro but also in an oustanding Backgammon player. Unfortunately he played to loose and didn't have a proper strategy for playing high stakes cash games online. He was is a great tournament player and an awesome showman, that is why he we could see him playing so much online. Just remember the time when he went all in every round and crushed all the other pros. As a disciplined poker professional you should never do that, but still it's just awesome to watch such a match. Definitely one of my favourite players.
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August 25, 2020, 09:01:03 AM
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Those are unlucky people in gambling, they lose that big amount of money which could already change the life of an ordinary gambler.  Actually as a gambler it does not interest me at all, what interest me is to see people winning in gambling as that inspires us to gamble more and never give up, seeing this might make us realize that we have no chance to win and just stop as soon as possible to minimize loses.

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August 25, 2020, 09:04:27 AM
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4. John Daly - Lost $55 million
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While he won an impressive $35 million, he lost and even more staggering $90 million, working out to a total loss of $55 million.
After losing, John Daly switched from $5000 slot machines to $25 ones.
OMG, $5,000 slots machines!? Yet I only play with $0.1 - $2.0 range Grin
Okay he won $35,000,000 or 7,000x but after doing 18,000 spins ($90,000,000) lmao!

He should have chosen low volatility one Grin

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August 25, 2020, 09:05:36 AM
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Talking about loss in crypt gambling. The most I've seen from any ID is PredictableLegacy from bustabit.
He have deleted his ID but the leaderboard of that site put's his final balance to 1278 btc in loss. That makes about 14.8 million on current bitcoin price.
It's about 1 ID on 1 site. Could have multiple IDs and could have played on multiple sites. We don't know his name so could be any of those or any of us.

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August 25, 2020, 09:15:25 AM
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so refreshing to see losers in gambling because often posted here are usually winners  . if there are big winners there were also big loosers but it would be more suck to win millions and then loose millions or more than that  . one on the list said turned 50 usd to a million dollar ? dang thats legendary but it turns out that he is only cheating  . know we know why , but its still possible to turn small cash to huge playing gambling in a fair way but the chance is small and the winnings are not exaggerated  .
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August 25, 2020, 09:19:09 AM
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That list is only a small portion of the losing gamblers, and I believe that there are many more losing gamblers, but they don't get publicized. Somehow, I prefer to hide how much money I already lose in gambling because it is not good for me. Besides that, by losing that much money, that means I can't control myself better and makes me lose too much money. I never wonder what happens with someone if he bets a huge amount of funds because I think that will be the responsibility of every gambler.

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August 25, 2020, 09:20:06 AM
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Cases in the OP certainly make good stories, but are nevertheless hard to verify. Perhaps the volume of losses has been greatly exaggerated in some of these for whatever reason, and we'll never know.

Crypto sites have more reliable stats IMO. Bustabit has its top losing account listed as having lost a total of more than 1200 BTC for example. And all bet results are stored and publicly displayed too.

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August 25, 2020, 09:23:36 AM
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A gambler losing million are also millionaire, so I guess they can afford to lose that amount.

Michael Jordan in the number 6 on the list only lose 2.5 million usd, I think this man is a billionaire so he can afford to lose that amount.
Also, we are just talking of loses only, these gamblers are surely winning also in their lives as a gambler, so it's not really a big deal, unless they lose money that ruin their lives because they are irresponsible.

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August 25, 2020, 09:24:36 AM
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These are classic examples of gambling addiction and sheer greed. Sorry, can't portray such losses in a better way! It takes a lifetime to earn a million dollar but it takes a second's decision to loose them all!

But these people are exceptions in the gambling community and I am sure majority of the gamblers know where to stop!

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August 25, 2020, 09:26:43 AM
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Greatest gambling wins vs losses, there is something we need to learn from this mostly from the losers stories because this helps us to realize how fast we can lose our money while gambling and I am sure there are lot more untold losers stories are available because people doesn't really expose their losses but with this we need to learn bet with the money which is affordable for you or else you will be in huge debts and the entire life is not enough to pay those debts.
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August 25, 2020, 09:36:06 AM
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So far, the most tragic loss in all of the OP was number 9, Akio Kashiwagi look at that poor guy who has been buried with debt and indeed tragic with too much stabbed on his earthly body.

Crypto sites have more reliable stats IMO. Bustabit has its top losing account listed as having lost a total of more than 1200 BTC for example. And all bet results are stored and publicly displayed too.
Could be a good topic too for those who are those gamblers who lost too much BTCs from online gambling. Haven't stumble upon a thread in these board though.

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August 25, 2020, 09:43:31 AM
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These are classic examples of gambling addiction and sheer greed. Sorry, can't portray such losses in a better way! It takes a lifetime to earn a million dollar but it takes a second's decision to loose them all!

But these people are exceptions in the gambling community and I am sure majority of the gamblers know where to stop!
People who have known their limits and has stopped at the right time has got listed as the exceptions. From the list it is clear that, very few were able to make themselves better out of gambling while majority has buried themselves into debts.

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August 25, 2020, 09:45:02 AM
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I was actually curious about how much a person could lose money in gambling. I think those people who have gambled and they are in the list, they could afford it. Imagine someone gambling their life savings and hoping for that big win and then losing it. It's not the best idea to have that dream of financial freedom.

I was intrigued with Akio Kashiwagi due to his story. Researched him and found out that he is a "whale" in the casino scene. It's an interesting story with Trump in the gambling scene. It's a great read.

The Whale That Nearly Drowned The Donald

P.S. If you want a better understand and pictures of the people included in the list, open the reference link from OP. You could read the whole article for more information about them.

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August 25, 2020, 09:48:27 AM
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To my opinion big loss is usually a consequence of big greed and lack of self control. Everyone of us needs to know when to stop and where are our limits. Maybe if you don't play big you can't win big but on the other hand losses are defined individualy so everyone needs to know how big loss he can take and what limits not to cross the would otherwise lead him to addiction.

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