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August 26, 2020, 10:03:29 AM
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Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea Smiley
The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley
But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?
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August 26, 2020, 10:30:35 AM
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Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea Smiley
The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley
So, the country with the world's largest external debt, the United States, has the strictest lockdown measures? Keep in mind that US had the least measures and for that reason has the most cases and most deaths also. Which also increased their debt now.
Seems to me like you've got things exactly backwards...

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August 26, 2020, 10:37:46 AM
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Covid19 is going to save the economy by killing lots of people that's for sure.

It is all around a well put solution. Burst the debt bubble, kill most of the elders and relieve the social security system, possibly change the banking system to a new one along the way...

It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.

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August 26, 2020, 10:44:03 AM
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You discovered it all by yourself? You better watch out because "the rulers who run world" will surely come after you for exposing their conspiracy.

So, the country with the world's largest external debt, the United States, has the strictest lockdown measures? Keep in mind that US had the least measures and for that reason has the most cases and most deaths also. Which also increased their debt now.
Seems to me like you've got things exactly backwards...

What do you mean "least measures"? The US government has recommended its people to wash hands and cover their faces and not go out if they don't feel well and that's already violating their constitutional right to get sick and to infect others. Land of the free. We choose to die rather than be oppressed by a face mask.

Edit: /s because idiots.
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August 26, 2020, 11:00:27 AM
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Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

Bs conspiracy theory that you can't back with numbers.
Japan and Greece who have the highest debts also had very lax laws for quarantine, Romania which has a low debt to GDP ratio took also tough measures while Sweden which is at the same debt/GDP ratio did almost nothing.

The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley

You're right about this one, we're seeing one of the worst generation of leaders in the last centuries.

It is all around a well put solution. Burst the debt bubble, kill most of the elders and relieve the social security system, possibly change the banking system to a new one along the way...
It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.

Just like the HIV was supposed to do, then H1H1, chemtrails and 5G  Grin
I can't stop laughing thinking of these guys who assumingly control the world and are trying for a century to limit the world's population and they keep failing with all the acces they have to reptilian technology and logistics.

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August 26, 2020, 11:25:36 AM
Last edit: August 26, 2020, 09:19:15 PM by mprep
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You discovered it all by yourself? You better watch out because "the rulers who run world" will surely come after you for exposing their conspiracy.

So, the country with the world's largest external debt, the United States, has the strictest lockdown measures? Keep in mind that US had the least measures and for that reason has the most cases and most deaths also. Which also increased their debt now.
Seems to me like you've got things exactly backwards...

What do you mean "least measures"? The US government has recommended its people to wash hands and cover their faces and not go out if they don't feel well and that's already violating their constitutional right to get sick and to infect others. Land of the free. We choose to die rather than be oppressed by a face mask.

Edit: /s because idiots.



World rulers have database they know about Everybody allready.
I don't worry about them Everybody who gone trhu in Something done things what maybe not for average people those people are all ready known
for them and everybody who have no life experince will not belive anyways and those who will undestood my point are the ones who all ready gone trhu some eye opening experiences.

They know the world rulers and i know Smiley
As long as the Information is not told by publick known and trusted person the world rulers dont care.
As im not publick known person and not have some title as doctor financial guy or economisist.

The World rulers knows that nobody Don't belive me anyways only those who got education from their life experiences will undestood what im talking about.



Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

Bs conspiracy theory that you can't back with numbers.
Japan and Greece who have the highest debts also had very lax laws for quarantine, Romania which has a low debt to GDP ratio took also tough measures while Sweden which is at the same debt/GDP ratio did almost nothing.

The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley

You're right about this one, we're seeing one of the worst generation of leaders in the last centuries.

It is all around a well put solution. Burst the debt bubble, kill most of the elders and relieve the social security system, possibly change the banking system to a new one along the way...
It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.

Just like the HIV was supposed to do, then H1H1, chemtrails and 5G  Grin
I can't stop laughing thinking of these guys who assumingly control the world and are trying for a century to limit the world's population and they keep failing with all the acces they have to reptilian technology and logistics.




I think and im sure its likely not as much population Control its a sustainable about system.
The borders will be closed to Control trading Economic and manufactories.
Its like there is a lot problems in the world Main problem is how to maintain sustainable production.

If there is 2 factories in France and Germany wich produce Same product its not rational and smart way to use resources.

The best way is to close factory in other Place and Open Up bigger factory in other place wich will sadisfy production needs much more smarter way without wasting so many resources.

It can be not done by other way then placing border restrictions to direct work and labour resources who are the people to the most sustainable way.

Belarus is good example of this Smiley



The sustainable development is like this.

Country and community has one purpose.

The purpose to provide one kind of Service or produce Something.

And Country wich has no purpose at all and not sustainable need to be closed and most or all population to move other location as labour force or other Type of Service purpose.



Its all about sustainable way to use resources.




Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

Bs conspiracy theory that you can't back with numbers.
Japan and Greece who have the highest debts also had very lax laws for quarantine, Romania which has a low debt to GDP ratio took also tough measures while Sweden which is at the same debt/GDP ratio did almost nothing.

The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley

You're right about this one, we're seeing one of the worst generation of leaders in the last centuries.

It is all around a well put solution. Burst the debt bubble, kill most of the elders and relieve the social security system, possibly change the banking system to a new one along the way...
It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.

Just like the HIV was supposed to do, then H1H1, chemtrails and 5G  Grin
I can't stop laughing thinking of these guys who assumingly control the world and are trying for a century to limit the world's population and they keep failing with all the acces they have to reptilian technology and logistics.




And greece bubble was popped all ready so greece not good example.


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August 26, 2020, 01:04:53 PM
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Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea Smiley
The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley
So, the country with the world's largest external debt, the United States, has the strictest lockdown measures? Keep in mind that US had the least measures and for that reason has the most cases and most deaths also. Which also increased their debt now.
Seems to me like you've got things exactly backwards...
I kinda agree with you because a country tends to have a greater debt when they can't control the virus. Without a strong restriction, more cases will occur and the economy will be affected that's why they will need to borrow money to help them. I'm not sure if I can consider it strong or not when it comes to restrictions since my country still has huge daily cases of COVID and we are all aware that our debt is increasing. The government keeps on borrowing money yet the situation does not seem to improve.
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August 26, 2020, 01:06:02 PM
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Covid19 is going to save the economy by killing lots of people that's for sure.

So do you think that overpopulation is the main problem in every part of the world?

Look at China, they have a strong and stable economy even if they have the largest population globally, I'm not saying that their system is good, but they are just taking advantage of overpopulation to strengthen their labors and manufacturing. Overpopulation is not the problem they just know how to adapt depending on the situation.

It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.

That's why some people are saying that this Covid-19 is a financial reset. They said that this is good for businesses and the economy, but based on my observation, most of the economies are crashing and struggling.
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August 26, 2020, 01:16:08 PM
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Covid19 is going to save the economy by killing lots of people that's for sure.

So do you think that overpopulation is the main problem in every part of the world?

Look at China, they have a strong and stable economy even if they have the largest population globally, I'm not saying that their system is good, but they are just taking advantage of overpopulation to strengthen their labors and manufacturing. Overpopulation is not the problem they just know how to adapt depending on the situation.
Resources are limited, people are increasing day by day. The born to died ratio is always in favor of the born. People who are born every second globally is higher than the people who are dying so in short, overpopulation is happening.

I still remember the prediction of Stephen Hawking regarding the overpopulated Earth. One thing more is China isn't the same as the other countries. Yes they have a strong economy right now because they know how to handle it but look at India. One of the most over populated country but they aren't as strong as China.

In order for the world to balance, things like this must happen in order for the economy to be saved. Like I said, resources is limited in the world so we need events like this for the economy to be saved. Its hard to think but that is the truth in this cruel world Smiley.

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August 26, 2020, 01:42:46 PM
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In order for the world to balance, things like this must happen in order for the economy to be saved.

I don't think that a global pandemic that kills millions is a necessity. Official death toll is I think just short of 1 million, and for obvious reasons countries are under-reporting, so the actual total will be higher... but likely not orders of magnitude higher. The world population is 7.6 billion. Just how high a death toll would be needed in order to 'save economies'? Even 80 million deaths, ~100x the official figure, would only reduce the global population by 1%... which is about the same as current world population growth rate. So by this logic we'd need the equivalent of 100 CV19 pandemics every year just to maintain the population at a constant level.

Of course this ignores the fact that far from saving economies, CV19 has had (and will continue to have) a hugely detrimental effect on jobs, wealth and wellbeing.






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Covid19 is going to save the economy by killing lots of people that's for sure.

So do you think that overpopulation is the main problem in every part of the world?

Look at China, they have a strong and stable economy even if they have the largest population globally, I'm not saying that their system is good, but they are just taking advantage of overpopulation to strengthen their labors and manufacturing. Overpopulation is not the problem they just know how to adapt depending on the situation.

Overpopulation is indeed a very big problem. China is not really in a good shape neither. I can guarantee you that you wouldn't want to live in China. Have you heard of their social credit system? You might wanna check that out. China is so fucked up.


It is the full systemic reset that everybody has been waiting for years.

That's why some people are saying that this Covid-19 is a financial reset. They said that this is good for businesses and the economy, but based on my observation, most of the economies are crashing and struggling.

That's true. Somebody had to pin the bubble and that's it.

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August 26, 2020, 01:48:14 PM
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Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea Smiley
The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley
But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liquidity problem?

Actually this is a fairly good point. Based on the death numbers world wide the reaction is too high.


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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Coronavirus Cases:
24,105,584

... Deaths:
824,406

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24,105,584/8,000,000,000 = 331 to 10,000 catch it

824,406/8,000,000,000 =  9703 to die from it.

even a bad stat country say the usa

is 5,956,661/330,000,000  or a  55 to 1 shot to catch it
and 182,449 die or a 1808 to 1 shot to die from it.

So if you are living in the USA   55 to 1 to get it and 1808 to die from it.

and USA buried its economy

look at Sweden 87,072 caught it and 5,817 died from it.

compare to New Jersey USA 195,854 caught it and 16,058 died from it.

Sweden and New Jersey both have about  same people 10,300,000 for Sweden 8,940,000 for New Jersey
but area varies 20x
area NJ = 8729 Sq Mi
area Sweden = 173,890 Sq Mi

So Sweden did no shutdowns to speak of
New Jersey had really strong shut downs

google stats say:

New Jersey debt load is  7,500 usd per person state debt plus 80,000 federal total of 87,000 a person
Sweden debt load is  17,885 euro that is 21000usd per person

So Sweden worked  and they did not die much compared to NJ. Sweden did not shut down.


So the low debt place works and lives.
the high debt place stays home and dies.


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Resources are limited, people are increasing day by day. The born to died ratio is always in favor of the born. People who are born every second globally is higher than the people who are dying so in short, overpopulation is happening.
Like I said, resources is limited in the world so we need events like this for the economy to be saved. Its hard to think but that is the truth in this cruel world Smiley.

We're nowhere near that point, people have been saying this for centuries and here we are and there are still plenty of resources left.
It all started with Malthus and his theory of people dying from hunger as the Earth can't feed us all, but Malthus died in 1834, the first steam tractors appeared in 1860s.

Here is a collection of a few of those non-sense doom predictions:
https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/18-spectacularly-wrong-apocalyptic-predictions-made-around-the-time-of-the-first-earth-day-in-1970-expect-more-this-year-3/

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In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.'
Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

The Earth can even right now feed 10 billion, we're throwing so much food we could feed Europe on it, half of the world lacks proper agricultural machines, even Eastern Europe does, there is also a lack of efficiency in a lot of other manufacturing areas, and there is one more important fact.
Population growth is slowing down, we might now even reach 10 billion at all, look at what's happening in Asia or South America

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August 26, 2020, 02:09:56 PM
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Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea Smiley
The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley
But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liquidity problem?

Actually this is a fairly good point. Based on the death numbers world wide the reaction is too high.


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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Coronavirus Cases:
24,105,584

... Deaths:
824,406

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24,105,584/8,000,000,000 = 331 to 10,000 catch it

824,406/8,000,000,000 =  9703 to die from it.

even a bad stat country say the usa

is 5,956,661/330,000,000  or a  55 to 1 shot to catch it
and 182,449 die or a 1808 to 1 shot to die from it.

So if you are living in the USA   55 to 1 to get it and 1808 to die from it.

and USA buried its economy

look at Sweden 87,072 caught it and 5,817 died from it.

compare to New Jersey USA 195,854 caught it and 16,058 died from it.

Sweden and New Jersey both have about  same people 10,300,000 for Sweden 8,940,000 for New Jersey
but area varies 20x
area NJ = 8729 Sq Mi
area Sweden = 173,890 Sq Mi

So Sweden did no shutdowns to speak of
New Jersey had really strong shut downs

google stats say:

New Jersey debt load is  7,500 usd per person state debt plus 80,000 federal total of 87,000 a person
Sweden debt load is  17,885 euro that is 21000usd per person

So Sweden worked  and they did not die much compared to NJ. Sweden did not shut down.


So the low debt place works and lives.
the high debt place stays home and dies.




Yes I think you are right Smiley


I think the Next debt bubble will pop off in Finland.
Finland have world one of the most hidden debt wich will come to the day light soon!
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August 26, 2020, 02:13:15 PM
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Do we have the figures to at least give this conspiracy theory a little support? Otherwise, this is just another addition to the rising number of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID-19 which are totally baseless or at least backed by what seems to be coincidental figures and data.

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August 26, 2020, 02:18:32 PM
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So if you are living in the USA   55 to 1 to get it and 1808 to die from it.

But it's still far from over in the US and those are really horrible odds, considering that a lot of people (elderly, obese, etc) have a much higher chance of bad outcomes.

area NJ = 8729 Sq Mi
area Sweden = 173,890 Sq Mi
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So the low debt place works and lives.
the high debt place stays home and dies.

I bet population density and other factors (such as said population being woefully undisciplined and/or unhealthy) are to blame here. You can't seriously suggest that New Jersey was targeted because of debt. Why not West Virginia, since the debt (the federal part) is nearly the same?

The Earth can even right now feed 10 billion, we're throwing so much food we could feed Europe on it, half of the world lacks proper agricultural machines, even Eastern Europe does, there is also a lack of efficiency in a lot of other manufacturing areas, and there is one more important fact.
Population growth is slowing down, we might now even reach 10 billion at all, look at what's happening in Asia or South America

This sucks. I was planning an ICO to build a Dyson sphere.
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August 26, 2020, 02:21:03 PM
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Do we have the figures to at least give this conspiracy theory a little support? Otherwise, this is just another addition to the rising number of conspiracy theories surrounding COVID-19 which are totally baseless or at least backed by what seems to be coincidental figures and data.


You can't connect the dots?  
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August 26, 2020, 02:25:15 PM
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Its not a about Medical issue.

Its just smoke and mirrors.

Its a about Economic issue.
Becouse the strongest covid restrictions are in places where debt is highest.
But the government had to hide this otherwise If they would telling the truth the more panic would occured!!

The covid smoke and mirrors is not bad idea Smiley
The rulers who run world are smart like me Smiley
But they are much more smart If I would run the World I wouldnt not know to use this covid fake Thing

I Wonder how they Got that idea covid 19 to hide their Economic debt bubble and liqutity problem?

I am yet to see the ''figuring out'' that you have done in this case because it seems this is purely some connecting the dots which is something anyone can come up with just by simply watching the news and following the narratives without necessarily doing any research of sort. Most huge economies of the world are built on debts and that is not new to any one. And those economies are the most advanced which makes them more susceptible to the virus because of the level of intercountry trades that happened. So its a direct relationship that should not give room to any form of controversy.
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August 26, 2020, 02:27:24 PM
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Overpopulation is indeed a very big problem. China is not really in a good shape neither. I can guarantee you that you wouldn't want to live in China. Have you heard of their social credit system? You might wanna check that out. China is so fucked up.

I'm not that knowledgeable about that Social Credit System but I will spend some time to read about it.

And it is true that even if China is the number 1 manufacturer of those PPEs that is being used to fight the Covid-19, they are still having some struggles in their economy. But to be frank, they have the power and ability to control their economy because they are a business-minded community.




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August 26, 2020, 02:50:22 PM
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Think about If You have to rule world Smiley

Not easy,  If You make Good life for everyone it Will be mess!!

We need to do some sacrafices in world to sacrafice many to save few.
If anybody Will earn good money then nobody will work anymore.



People spend What They Don't have....
Middle class who is mostly brainless credit card chunkies....  Using mostly luxury and wealth what They Don't have.

I do undestood its not easy to rule world world is full of idiots and parasites
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