Socialist life

[Cnut237]

Can you explain why you think that the world is going towards socialism? It's a big statement and it's rather not self-evident

That was my question, too. We have seen leftist-style government intervention in a lot of countries as a response to CV19 - perhaps this is what the OP had in mind? These will likely be temporary measures, as governments remain committed to free-market capitalism. I don't think we're headed for socialism yet.

Having said that, capitalism as currently practised is not sustainable without governments acting to keep it in check. Inequality is growing, the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer... which is one reason that leftist solutions are gaining in popularity.

[amishmanish]

Can you explain why you think that the world is going towards socialism? It's a big statement and it's rather not self-evident, there's not much countries in this world that are officially socialist, and even less that are actually socialist. And even the word "socialism" starts to mean different things, from marxism to welfare state.

He cannot.He must be one of those ignorant Trump'ers.

In his nomination address, Trump said something along the lines, "Joe Biden is weak and he cannot stand up to all these liberal, Socialists". He says the word like it is something to be despised, which i believe a lot of these uneducated US citizens think because of its association with USSR. This is just another one of those cheap, demagougery tricks after immigrants, scum countries, mexican wall that Trump plays. He pits people against each other on these emotive issues and gains foothold by engaging the fools.

[hatshepsut93]

That was my question, too. We have seen leftist-style government intervention in a lot of countries as a response to CV19 - perhaps this is what the OP had in mind? These will likely be temporary measures, as governments remain committed to free-market capitalism. I don't think we're headed for socialism yet.

This sounds like the american definition of socialism - socialism is when government does stuff. And by the way, corporations have received far bigger share of covid-19 relief funds than the citizens, so does this still count as socialism or not?

Having said that, capitalism as currently practised is not sustainable without governments acting to keep it in check. Inequality is growing, the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer... which is one reason that leftist solutions are gaining in popularity.

This heavily varies from country to country, but generally the poor are actually getting richer too, just not as fast as the rich. Being poor in the US sucks though, so no wonder that leftism s growing there.

[jademaxsuy]

Yeah we are into that kind of transition already especially now that we are in pandemic most of the people are striving hard to earn by means of starting a small online business. Corporate business will do but as much as I am interested in socialism it will be more likely to happen.

However,  I do not think that government will not intervene in this. In fact here in our place the small business had to comply in registering their small business. And if it happens that business will going to profit more than the minimum profit set by the government manually then that excess profit will be tax by the government. This is how cruel our government is in our place taking taxes especially to small business but to large business they will just be offered money and then they are now exempted on getting tax and the government were not able to file a case against them because the managment had already receive money as a gift from those big companies evading to pay taxes.

[chip1994]

World Going to socialist regime
So 50% will provide services and production for other 50%

I Don't mind this what you think?

Socialist is not the government that forces us to do the same. Although we still depend on the government and they are the most powerful bodies, they cannot put in place dictatorships that force people to do so, it is not socialist like you think.
Here, that socialist is the government that will function normally but not force the people to follow a pattern of production. they only appear when the economy is in trouble or the society has problems, of course they will solve the problem their way. I feel socialism is quite amazing because people seem protected from disasters or economic hardship.

[Xembin]

For the government to succeed in any country they need community,in socialism community is under the government, they work with government to make sure the economic of a country is well manage well and productive.

[MCobian]

COVID-19 is a factor in the occurrence of socialist life, due to an economic downturn. Make all parties help each other.
But that doesn't mean that socialist life is a good thing, because sometimes it makes poor people become dependent
and not independent. Therefore, socialist life can run well, if society has an independent character.

[tbterryboy]

Cryptoboss2020 is probably a young kid, you do not have to listen or respond to everything he says, he has created some weird topics in the past so far and all of them are stuff to get attention. There are tons of topics with "bitcoin going over 12k would be possible if X happens" type of non-attention seeking regular topics, I feel like being in them is easier, you do not have to focus on these type of grand ridiculous and basically just useless topics.

Even the first post he wrote himself doesn't make sense and not just because of his bad English, he has horrible English, my English is bad, his is horrible, but even if he made any sense what he wrote doesn't make sense at all, "socialists means 50% doing the work for 50%" that is capitalism, but for 90%+ working to make money for 1% instead of 50% 50% which would be an improvement even if it was true.

[South Park]

Socialism is just sweet words, but is basically just an imaginary, or can even be called a figment of imagination at this point, mainly due to how the characteristics of human beings are. Past history has proven this, and I doubt anyone would be willing to try it again at the expense of wasted resources as well as time, that in the end wouldn't really end up to anything good. Plus, a world where everything is equal, a balance of 50/50 is just a world where basically everyone scorns, steals, and lies to each other imo.

Socialism sounds good in theory but when applied in practice it has failed miserably and it is easy to understand why, people are selfish by nature if I take the time to be very productive I can understand if part of that production is taken away to keep society in place as I benefit from it as well but when they ask you to give the majority of your income when you are working so hard then a question begins to pop out in the minds of people, why am I being punished for being good at what I do? Why many people receive more than what they give while I receive less? And that is when the socialist dream begins to crumble.

[Stalker22]

Socialism sounds good in theory but when applied in practice it has failed miserably and it is easy to understand why, people are selfish by nature if I take the time to be very productive I can understand if part of that production is taken away to keep society in place as I benefit from it as well but when they ask you to give the majority of your income when you are working so hard then a question begins to pop out in the minds of people, why am I being punished for being good at what I do? Why many people receive more than what they give while I receive less? And that is when the socialist dream begins to crumble.

Actually, socialism would be a perfect social structure if we were incapable of lying or if there was a fullprof lie detector available to everyone. Just imagine, in that case there could be no individuals abusing the system for their personal gain and the problem of socially vulnerable categories of the population would be eradicated.

This is not my idea but I read it in some science fiction book (I can't remember the name) back when I was in college and it stuck in my head ever since. 

[South Park]

Socialism sounds good in theory but when applied in practice it has failed miserably and it is easy to understand why, people are selfish by nature if I take the time to be very productive I can understand if part of that production is taken away to keep society in place as I benefit from it as well but when they ask you to give the majority of your income when you are working so hard then a question begins to pop out in the minds of people, why am I being punished for being good at what I do? Why many people receive more than what they give while I receive less? And that is when the socialist dream begins to crumble.

Actually, socialism would be a perfect social structure if we were incapable of lying or if there was a fullprof lie detector available to everyone. Just imagine, in that case there could be no individuals abusing the system for their personal gain and the problem of socially vulnerable categories of the population would be eradicated.

This is not my idea but I read it in some science fiction book (I can't remember the name) back when I was in college and it stuck in my head ever since. 

And it is precisely because of this that I say that socialism is good in theory but not in practice, if we could change one or several aspects of human nature then socialism could work, but the point is that we can't and most likely we are not going to be able to change that for the foreseeable future and as long as that is the case then we must create a system that follows human nature, and so far the best is capitalism, since it makes complete sense that if you work really hard and invest a lot of money in a certain project that you keep most of the fruits of that project and you do not have to share that with anyone that you do not want to.

[odolvlobo]

... if we could change one or several aspects of human nature then socialism could work, but the point is that we can't ...

The re-education camps in China and in Vietnam after the war, and the Soviet labor camps of Lenin and Stalin all demonstrate the terrible outcome of that socialist myth.

[Dorodha]

The Soviet Union remained invincible because it overthrew the capitalist system established the socialist system and overthrew the dictatorship of the exploiting class and established the dictatorship of the proletariat. In this country, the social productive forces have developed at a rapid pace which the capitalist countries have not been able to reach. This country truly practices proletarian internationalism is a real opponent of national oppression and helps the oppressed countries to be free. Such a country is enthusiastically supported by all the people of the country and the people of all the countries of the world.

[aiguy]

In theory, based on public benefits, socialism has the greatest goal of common wealth; Since the government controls almost all of society's functions, it can make better use of resources, labors and lands; Socialism reduces disparity in wealth, not only in different areas, but also in all societal ranks and classes.

[jaysabi]

World Going to socialist regime
So 50% will provide services and production for other 50%

I Don't mind this what you think?

Full on socialism has never worked and there’s no reason to expect that to change in the future. It requires suppressing with force a market’s natural tendencies and is therefore inherently violent. Countries with a mostly market system and strong social programs (free healthcare and education) have worked well and are probably as close to socialism as you want to get. But it’s not socialism per se.

[abhiseshakana]

Full on socialism has never worked and there’s no reason to expect that to change in the future. It requires suppressing with force a market’s natural tendencies and is therefore inherently violent. Countries with a mostly market system and strong social programs (free healthcare and education) have worked well and are probably as close to socialism as you want to get. But it’s not socialism per se.

Socialism can only be perfect if each human being does not live only for himself, but lives for the needs of the common society. In a socialist system, the people should have a direct voice in matters related to the state and the livelihoods of many people, what is currently happening is democratic socialism. Socialism will be perfect if it is bound by moral and religious values. The true basis of the socialist society is egality and brotherhood. Socialism was originally a communist philosophy that was based on the unity and integrity of society as a community in which socialism entered the economic realm so that it had a political-economic foundation. With the aim that the country's wealth could be enjoyed by the majority of the people, especially the peasants and poor workers - a movement to erode the various political, social, and economic impacts caused by colonialism and imperialism.

Socialism has a weak resistance compared to capitalism even though its basic ideas are equality and brotherhood because socialism is rigid and not flexible to the changes demanded by history.

[coolcoinz]

In theory, based on public benefits, socialism has the greatest goal of common wealth; Since the government controls almost all of society's functions, it can make better use of resources, labors and lands; Socialism reduces disparity in wealth, not only in different areas, but also in all societal ranks and classes.

Common wealth is a lie spread by socialists and communists. It was always about reposession of goods and control over the masses.
The most basic thing in socialism and communism, the concept of equality, cannot work, as people are not born equal and through their lives prove to different from each other. Comunism doesn't even try to treat them equally, it treats the working class, people who produce material goods, better than the rest. Socialism is an unsustainable system that will never work.

[bearexin]

How exactly is the world going socialist? Are you saying this because of the lockdown? You do know for sure that if you don’t work you’re not going to get any food on your table right? So don’t think that the world is going socialist because you’re sitting at home due to Covid-19, better to find something. And by the way I can’t even imagine that happening, where 50% will sit at home doing nothing and the others are out there working for them to feed.

What makes you think that such thing will ever happen? The way it is nobody is ready to do that, the world will prefer that there is no food for people who don’t work. If we should socialist like you said, trust me, nobody will agree to work while another is at home chilling and doing nothing. The reason why people are working is because they have a target and that target is income.

[Latviand]

I Don't mind this what you think?

I would definitely not want the government to have full control over the economic market of my country, corruption and nepotism are negative factors that would limit the citizens.

This is what is happening in most of the countries around the world.

Governments have full control when it comes to manipulation in the economy that's why most of the politicians are suddenly becomes rich due to corruption. They are uncontrollably abusing their power due to this socialism that they are saying. They can't handle the temptation to steal the money from the people, they are just using it in the wrong way that's why economic crisis is still there and they are having a hard time to eliminate it.

Citizens are suffering, especially those poor people who are just relying on the government's support but still the economy are really affected by mishandling of budget.

[TheUltraElite]

World Going to socialist regime

World is going this, world is going that... mind providing some Proof? and please dont say you are drunk or on weed.

So 50% will provide services and production for other 50%

It might be easy to think like that, but every one has to work to keep a country running. Every person is a cog in a large chain and though we tend to have a narrow vision of ourselves there are many others doing different roles in different positions and nobody is inferior to anybody. Just that we dont care to give the importance to others.

So what you say, is a part of your own delusion. Half of the population of any country is not sleeping, they have different work to do.