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August 30, 2020, 03:30:28 AM
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https://www.agriculture.com/weather/current-conditions/drought-is-creeping-across-the-corn-belt
https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/europe-s-wilted-wheat-leaves-world-hunting-elsewhere-for-grain
https://www.farmweekly.com.au/story/6899086/eu-cereal-exports-lower-after-a-poor-harvest/?cs=5153
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/nutrition/france-records-driest-july-in-six-decades/ar-BB17vykH
https://www.outtherecolorado.com/news/93-percent-of-colorado-experiencing-severe-drought-or-worse/article_ea9b20ba-e95a-11ea-a942-ff97a586eb1a.html
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August 30, 2020, 07:08:06 AM
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This is one of the consequences of climate change. Sad

Yeah, but so many people are denying it or downplaying the consequences. I really hope humanity will get to the point realising climate change as a huge threat for humankind.
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August 30, 2020, 08:33:06 AM
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Human civilization that is increasingly advanced seems to have no positive impact on nature, where disasters often occur without our realizing that the causes are our own. I hope that it will get better soon and there will not be a famine that hits us all.
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August 30, 2020, 10:10:52 AM
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Time to stock up on a few decades of MREs, not that anyone can afford that many.

If you'd shown someone even 50 years ago what the world population would be by now they would've automatically assumed we would all be starving to death yet we're muddling along. Let's hope we can improvise our way out of a tight spot if there is one.

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August 30, 2020, 10:15:44 AM
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Crazy world! First problems during the pandemic was when toilet paper was out and people started stock piling soap and toilet paper at home like crazy. It makes sense that food will be the main issue during the second and third wave of corona. Better to prepare ourselfs already and building up stockpiles. This will be so sad once people start selling a bag of apples for 100$. We should try to become self suficient again as a nation and not rely on imports all around the world.

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August 30, 2020, 10:55:53 AM
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https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/record-high-world-grain-production-for-second-year-in-a-row
RECORD-HIGH WORLD GRAIN PRODUCTION FOR SECOND YEAR IN A ROW

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With production surging by 4.4%, corn will drive world cereal grain production to record levels in 2020/2021, said the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization in its first forecast of the new crops. It was the second forecast in a week of record global output as the planting season ends in the northern hemisphere.

The FAO forecast cereal grain production of 2.781 billion tonnes, up 2.6% from the record set in 2019/2020.

In other words, no famine in sight, no panic, no apocalypse, no nothing.
Just the usual jobless OP that starts stupid topics, trying to convince himself that others will suffer too, fortunately for us, it won't happen.

If you'd shown someone even 50 years ago what the world population would be by now they would've automatically assumed we would all be starving to death yet we're muddling along.

Malthus thought that when we will never reach this as we would all be dead from hunger by the time the population would grow this big, but we were 800 million at the time of his death and now we're close to 8 billion, we haven't reached this level of human civilization by standing still and not acting, there is so much room for improvement in agriculture we could easily feed 10 billion.

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This is one of the consequences of climate change. Sad

Yeah, but so many people are denying it or downplaying the consequences. I really hope humanity will get to the point realising climate change as a huge threat for humankind.
Nature has given a balance to use from it -what it produces- and by doing this we are giving it adequate/friendly environs to replenish and sustain humanity for generations, but man WANTS MORE, and activities of men chokes life's out of nature.
Man now substitute nature products with man made of man completed products which wastes are toxic to nature or not decomposable.
Nature actually sustained man in years long ago. But human has to advance -science/technology/art- we can limit wastes causing harm to -nature/climate- use bio-base or bio-friendly products.

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August 30, 2020, 12:14:42 PM
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I don't know. I am still not worried about it.
Maybe I just can't see the bigger picture.

But as of now, I am trying to teach my children survival and conserving because they might be the ones to be hit by that scarcity of food.
I am not neglecting the fact that it may happen.
The world population is getting higher and there might come a time that selfishness will rule the world.
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August 30, 2020, 12:16:46 PM
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Increasing population is uncontrollable especially that during this quarantine, the increase in the pregnancy of women are there. Couples have so much time to spend together and we all know that resources are slowly decreasing due to climate change and disasters that are occurs every year. I'm not being negative but that's what is happening right now in our society and in the world. We don't need to make ourselves blind and numb about the issues that we are experiencing. We need to act and help our government and ourselves to prevent this problems from happening.

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August 30, 2020, 12:19:11 PM
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Actually, most of the families here are experiencing famine already (I saw it from my friend's family). Seems that pandemic acts faster than the climate change. But wait, there's more! The tension between our country and China goes higher so yeah the fourth horsemen is waving on us already Cry.

Time to stock up on a few decades of MREs, not that anyone can afford that many.
Hmm I guess I'm having now a reason to fulfill my curiosity of knowing what MRE tastes like. But I hope this is not the time to do so because I want to eat it with pleasure and not desperation to live Sad.
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August 30, 2020, 12:19:20 PM
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But as of now, I am trying to teach my children survival and conserving because they might be the ones to be hit by that scarcity of food.
I am not neglecting the fact that it may happen.
The world population is getting higher and there might come a time that selfishness will rule the world.

I'd be in two minds about that. If I built up years of food and sustainable supplies I'd be the fattest sitting duck imaginable unless I lived in space. In a mass collapse scenario I think I'd rather go with the same option as nuclear war and let it eat me up rather than spend the hideous aftermath scrabbling for survival.


Hmm I guess I'm having now a reason to fulfill my curiosity of knowing what MRE tastes like. But I hope this is not the time to do so because I want to eat it with pleasure and not desperation to live Sad.

Never tried one either, but they're only good for about 3-5 years I think. And they're hideously expensive.
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August 30, 2020, 01:06:15 PM
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This is one of the consequences of climate change. Sad

Yeah, but so many people are denying it or downplaying the consequences. I really hope humanity will get to the point realising climate change as a huge threat for humankind.

If they are not experiencing the disasters and struggle, they will not act and open their mind towards this happenings in our environment.

Famine is not impossible to happen and can happen anytime when people are unaware about the economy and the resources. Governments are also accountable and responsible with that, on how they will handle economy properly. Proper allocations of budget, good decisions, and right platforms are needed in order to prevent famine to occur.

Climate change are expected to happen but we can do something about it.w
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It's really a challenge for us when it's about the environment and this also happens because of humans so probably in the coming years, we'll get to see more crisis. And the population is continuously growing which results in more damages to the environment. Science and technology can also help in giving a solution to this, just like GMOs though this doesn't really guarantee a complete solution to hunger, it's still helpful.

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Never tried one either, but they're only good for about 3-5 years I think. And they're hideously expensive.
I have tried a few; it really depends on both what you define as "tasty" and the brand. Some of it tastes like shit, even expensive ones.. so purchasing samples before a large order is advisable imo.

There are some that last 7, 10, 15 or even more years. The time they were produced matters a lot though, obviously. Mountain House (apparently switched their name into Crisis Equipped) sells freeze-dried food that lasts up to even 30 years.

To prevent this and have the food last as long as possible, you could purchase canned food or MRE (sometimes canned food is cheaper but I think takes more space) and have a freezer specifically for this purpose. However, keep in mind the following thing:

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According to Foodsafety.gov, food that is kept at zero degrees Fahrenheit is deemed as nonperishable for the duration of the time it is kept in the freezer. Although the food will last forever, it will not necessarily maintain its desired taste forever.
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There are some that last 7, 10, 15 or even more years. The time they were produced matters a lot though, obviously. Mountain House (apparently switched their name into Crisis Equipped) sells freeze-dried food that lasts up to even 30 years.

Those aren't MREs though. There are places that sell 1 year of food packs for a fortune that are dehydrated/frozen, but they rather conveniently reduce your meals to one a day so by the end of that year you'd be the size of a toothpick. And dead.

As far as I know honey is the one and only eternally lasting source of energy.
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Not exactly famine but we are moving towards another economic depression. And to deviate people from it, many nations are trying to wage a war which may lead to another Great war or World war. It's already long overdue. If we go through it undivided, we can easily win over the post pandemic crisis but leaders prefer deviation of priority than actually solving the problem. That would either lead to toppling of government or a war.


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Time to stock up on a few decades of MREs, not that anyone can afford that many.

They're so expensive. A single meal ration is pretty much at the price of a meal in a decent restaurant.
I prefer to buy dry pasta, rice and canned sauces because it's cheaper.

I dare to say I could survive a year on pancakes and coffee.

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Not exactly famine but we are moving towards another economic depression. And to deviate people from it, many nations are trying to wage a war which may lead to another Great war or World war. It's already long overdue. If we go through it undivided, we can easily win over the post pandemic crisis but leaders prefer deviation of priority than actually solving the problem. That would either lead to toppling of government or a war.
Economic depression, war, crisis -even pandemic- leads to hunger and famine. The world has problems far beyond the pandemic. We as humans can reduce/limit the man activities affecting the world -negatively/harmfully-

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People are much adopted to the ongoing market situation. Often more and more number of cryptocurrency users are into existence. During the pandemic bitcoin users haven't suffered big, because of the growth it provided. Once again now people have started to think of famine to attack all around. With bitcoin this can't be managed, people need to be prepared along with the government to produce their own food knowing the future needs.

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August 30, 2020, 06:01:29 PM
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This is the outcome of change. We all are talking change and the economy too is changing. Human interactions have increased and the system is no longer the way it is and this has brought corruption that has eaten deep into the fabric of economies.
Corruptors are indeed a big problem for the government because they always spend the state's money and starve their people, but during this pandemic, of course, economic changes are very difficult, war can occur because they maintain their economy, but I am sure that war will not happen again because the government is probably the most solution. the last is that it is owed again to the country that is what makes the economy worse.

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