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September 09, 2020, 02:35:23 PM
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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.
It really is, but they cannot do this trial and error for so many times, they are going to lose a lot if they keep on having issues with infections they need to perfect the health protocols now or they will face penalties and closure of the establishment, the authorities will consider this negligence in implementing the health protocols.
Apparently, there is no perfect protocols here. There will be always a risk of getting someone infected  Undecided. Well the thing here is, minimizing those chances of infection, by means of tightening their parameters on handling such operation much better than before. And it could only be done, by having this trial and error thing. Not sayin' to play with someone's life but you cannot exclude the fact that somebody's health may always get tainted here, no matter how strict or thorough their guidelines are. And I bet the authorities/officials behind this knew all of that, even before reconsidering this venture.
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September 14, 2020, 08:49:37 PM
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.
Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.
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September 14, 2020, 10:43:11 PM
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.
Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.
Its actually happening on my place or country now where the number of cases did really rise up after lifting such restriction and i can say that citizens did really make a big mistake on believing that everything is already
fine or undercontrol since the prohibition is lifted which is totally wrong.They do forgot to continue that social distancing and other health protocols which it did really end up on taking it effective once again.
Its just normal for a business or establishment to follow up rules because if they wont then either they would be on such closure or would really be having that fine.This isnt only happening on Miami Dade
but in most business nowadays that do have physical form.

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September 15, 2020, 06:33:12 AM
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
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September 15, 2020, 07:02:05 AM
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
why not ? to me 6 months is still low compare to the lethal effect of the virus  .staying at home is still advice until further notice . many people predicted that the routine like this can last till the year end or till next year . no problem with that because we people already know how  to strive with the current situation that we have now .

  this does not depend on the individual if what he will do but you can still get arrested if you live like theres no pandemic .
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September 15, 2020, 08:03:14 AM
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.

The question is what happens when people get infected? We all know if one infected person enters the premises he can infect everyone. Are the authorities prepared for the consequence? Is the business willing to take such a big risk? If yes, then I do not think it is a problem..

People are now not taking this pandemic seriously for the obvious reason. Whatever protocol you have placed, some one will not follow it and it is not possible to keep an eye on everyone.

You also cannot deny that a business cannot remain closed anymore in the coming months, they need to earn money to pay to their employees and government needs revenue through taxes from such business.

Therefore the situation is completely messed and complicated and no one knows what to do next?


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September 15, 2020, 09:52:52 AM
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The question is what happens when people get infected? We all know if one infected person enters the premises he can infect everyone. Are the authorities prepared for the consequence? Is the business willing to take such a big risk? If yes, then I do not think it is a problem..

People are now not taking this pandemic seriously for the obvious reason. Whatever protocol you have placed, some one will not follow it and it is not possible to keep an eye on everyone.

You also cannot deny that a business cannot remain closed anymore in the coming months, they need to earn money to pay to their employees and government needs revenue through taxes from such business.

Therefore the situation is completely messed and complicated and no one knows what to do next?

Obviously if the businesses are open, then there will be a higher risk of spreading the infection. But now we know a great deal about the virus and how it infects the human beings, unlike the case six months ago. So we can have effective preventive mechanisms, even if the economy needs to be restarted. In the end, some risk will still be there. But then we need to live with that much risk for at least the next 6-12 months.
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September 15, 2020, 01:49:40 PM
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Obviously if the businesses are open, then there will be a higher risk of spreading the infection. But now we know a great deal about the virus and how it infects the human beings, unlike the case six months ago. So we can have effective preventive mechanisms, even if the economy needs to be restarted. In the end, some risk will still be there. But then we need to live with that much risk for at least the next 6-12 months.

Gambling isn't really the best solution to support the economy in this crisis. Third world countries collects huge amount of tax from BPO companies, other businesses such as those which focuses on production of goods and essential services are open. That is why I think the reason why casinos are opening too is because they have employees who needs to work in order to live not because casinos make the economy stable. I am not against it as long as they are following strict protocols to lessen and prevent the spread of the virus.

The question is: why most of the physical casinos are still not developing and deploying their online gambling site? The answer is still employees to work and it takes allot of time to develop a gambling site.
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September 15, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.
Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.
Its actually happening on my place or country now where the number of cases did really rise up after lifting such restriction and i can say that citizens did really make a big mistake on believing that everything is already
fine or undercontrol since the prohibition is lifted which is totally wrong.They do forgot to continue that social distancing and other health protocols which it did really end up on taking it effective once again.
Its just normal for a business or establishment to follow up rules because if they wont then either they would be on such closure or would really be having that fine.This isnt only happening on Miami Dade
but in most business nowadays that do have physical form.

I guess that is happening in many countries after the new normal. People tend to disobey the health protocol by not wearing a mask, they don't use social distancing, they were in a crowd, and many else.

It does not happen to the gambling industries, but it's happened to many industries, so if that continues, I am afraid the number of infected people will increase and not reduce. The health protocols need to be done in all countries while we are in this pandemic, so at least we can prevent ourselves from the virus.

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September 16, 2020, 03:21:56 AM
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The question is: why most of the physical casinos are still not developing and deploying their online gambling site? The answer is still employees to work and it takes allot of time to develop a gambling site.

I think that this question has been already answered. Online gambling is entirely different from physical gambling. Even the clientele is radically different. If the physical casinos set up online sites, their customers would mostly avoid those. I am someone who have been to physical casinos and I have spent a lot of time in online gambling. For me, these two domains are polar opposites.
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September 16, 2020, 07:13:49 AM
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The question is: why most of the physical casinos are still not developing and deploying their online gambling site? The answer is still employees to work and it takes allot of time to develop a gambling site.

I think that this question has been already answered. Online gambling is entirely different from physical gambling. Even the clientele is radically different. If the physical casinos set up online sites, their customers would mostly avoid those. I am someone who have been to physical casinos and I have spent a lot of time in online gambling. For me, these two domains are polar opposites.
we have preferences when playing and also depends on our Moods,but i think Online and physical gambling are both enjoyable
specially when times that we are so busy and has no time going to physical casinosso we will spend our time in Online where we can do anything
even when we are Busy.
It will only take few minutes to conduct betting.

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we have preferences when playing and also depends on our Moods,but i think Online and physical gambling are both enjoyable
specially when times that we are so busy and has no time going to physical casinosso we will spend our time in Online where we can do anything
even when we are Busy. It will only take few minutes to conduct betting.

I agree that both (online and physical gambling) are enjoyable. But the level of enjoyment may be different. Here in India, there is only one state (Goa) where casinos are allowed to operate. People visit these casinos because they are considered "exotic" and not necessarily because they are compulsive gamblers. This "exotic" experience may be absent, if you rely on the online casinos. 
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September 16, 2020, 11:49:34 AM
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As the Economy around the world continues to go down because of the pandemic, governments are torn between opening businesses again to slowly bring up the economy but the risk is still there which was already mentioned in OP's post and not opening but to watch the Economy to suffer even more.

It seems that the late action of the Governments to pandemic is already backfiring to them, to us. Here in our country, if only the president agreed to shut down the airports to avoid having people from other places, mostly in China to enter the country, we surely don't have any COVID-19 cases here in the Philippines, but yeah, things happened and can't go back anymore.

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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.
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September 19, 2020, 04:35:52 PM
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.
I definitely agree with you all. This is also why the role of the important is very important during these uncertain times. The government should strictly implement protocols as for the public to strictly follow it. They should also come up with programs that are relevant in this new normal to cope up with the employment rate and provide jobs to those who were laid off their former jobs. The survival of both the public and the economy will be impacted upon the movements of the government.

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Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.

Whenever I am going out, I am using a face-shield and mask. Obviously there is no shortage of anti-socials, who want to spread the infection by disregarding social distancing. There is not much we can do about such people. At the most, we can keep a distance from them. Apart from that, I am also in favor of restarting the economy. It is not viable to stay inside our homes for another 12 months.
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Indeed, but there are some guidelines that everyone must follow and do to minimize the possibility of virus transmission in public places. The discipline should be with everybody, hence we will just suffer again more and if this pandemic did not stop soon, life will become even more harder to us. Some authorized people are free to go anywhere, so they should compromise with the parameters that has been given.
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why not ? to me 6 months is still low compare to the lethal effect of the virus  .staying at home is still advice until further notice . many people predicted that the routine like this can last till the year end or till next year . no problem with that because we people already know how  to strive with the current situation that we have now .

  this does not depend on the individual if what he will do but you can still get arrested if you live like theres no pandemic .

The lethality of the virus is as high as they want it to be.

Every place you go has different opinions and different restrictions. Some countries don't have them at all.

If you're allowed to go to conferences, open stores and restaurants, why not casinos? Should casinos be the victim here because they aren't essential.
For me gambling entertainment is as important as going out for a meal or meeting with friends.

Either they shut everything down or open everything. Allowing some businesses to open and keep other ones shut down is stupid.
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Indeed, but there are some guidelines that everyone must follow and do to minimize the possibility of virus transmission in public places. The discipline should be with everybody, hence we will just suffer again more and if this pandemic did not stop soon, life will become even more harder to us.

Some authorized people are free to go anywhere, so they should compromise with the parameters that has been given.

It should be more tighter  to everyone  there's should be no  exemption as this  pandemic  virus  can easily  transfer from person to  person,  doing all the necessary  protocols  should be applied. 

With  tighter guidelines  any  businesses  have to follow  as it will lessen  the  chances of transmitting  this virus.  If anyone  wants to have a much safer  business  they  should  be guided by the government  rules and regulations  from  how they  fight  with  this virus.

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why not ? to me 6 months is still low compare to the lethal effect of the virus  .staying at home is still advice until further notice . many people predicted that the routine like this can last till the year end or till next year . no problem with that because we people already know how  to strive with the current situation that we have now .

  this does not depend on the individual if what he will do but you can still get arrested if you live like theres no pandemic .

The lethality of the virus is as high as they want it to be.

Every place you go has different opinions and different restrictions. Some countries don't have them at all.

If you're allowed to go to conferences, open stores and restaurants, why not casinos? Should casinos be the victim here because they aren't essential.
For me gambling entertainment is as important as going out for a meal or meeting with friends.

Either they shut everything down or open everything. Allowing some businesses to open and keep other ones shut down is stupid.
Its your own point of view but i dont see anything wrong for it to be closed since its really a place that can generate out crowd and also you cant stop government if they do only impose

that allowing only those establishments on the essentials side and excluding those businesses who arent included on the bracket.What you can do if they would decide on that?

It might sound stupid but they do have the point on not letting other businesses to open due to this kind of reason.Its not something we do called as a victim yet come to think

that there are still lots are on the same side.

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Indeed, but there are some guidelines that everyone must follow and do to minimize the possibility of virus transmission in public places. The discipline should be with everybody, hence we will just suffer again more and if this pandemic did not stop soon, life will become even more harder to us. Some authorized people are free to go anywhere, so they should compromise with the parameters that has been given.

Discipline is really the main thing here because no matter how hard the government do impose such rule if the citizens are too hard headed then it would be useless but somewhat having such control

would really minimize out the spread or the risk of increased of infected person.For you had mentioned those authorized people to roam everywhere as they like then its understandable because

who would be the one to manage if they're included on such restriction? Its does really need access because things would be stagnant if there no workforce would be moving.

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