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August 31, 2020, 01:01:43 PM
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.

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Miami-Dade casinos and restaurants which offer indoor dining can reopen doors tomorrow, August 31.

Early in July, Miami-Dade saw multiple spikes of reported positive COVID-19 cases. As a result, six weeks after their initial reopening, the venues were ordered to shutdown once again. The order by Miami-Dade Mayor Gimenez came into effect on July 3. Besides the shutdown of casinos, the order also introduced a 10 PM curfew. Upon releasing the order back then, it was unknown for how long it would be in effect.


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August 31, 2020, 10:03:15 PM
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For those excited gamblers that want to get in as soon as it opens, they wouldn't care but to rush on it.

We've seen many times how excited they are to get back in action and visit the casinos again after of months lockdown and no gambling at all. It's like they've missed to be back at home.

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August 31, 2020, 10:24:45 PM
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For those excited gamblers that want to get in as soon as it opens, they wouldn't care but to rush on it.

We've seen many times how excited they are to get back in action and visit the casinos again after of months lockdown and no gambling at all. It's like they've missed to be back at home.

We cant tell that it will surely happen or they might be already aware on the possible risk if they dont just follow those health protocols.Of course they can play but this time theres some restriction
since we are on a pandemic situation then its understandable.Miami-Dade mayor wont be surely commit the same mistake in the past and this time they will really imply on a strict manner
if they dont like to be lockdown once again.Citizens should at least do follow with the rules because this is just really for the safety of everyone but we cant deny that there are really people who
are just too hard-headed no matter how you do tell them about those restrictions.

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August 31, 2020, 10:45:26 PM
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Since they now allow to commence operation for the third time, it seems they comply with those things needed in order to operate again. Authorities will not just allow for any business to resume without submitting their respective guidelines and terms especially for a large event place like Casinos and Restaurants.

And besides, the closure of the establishments before is because of the continuous rise of confirmed cases within the area and not because most numbers originated in this place which is a good idea to somehow control the spread.

Like many businesses that slowly resuming, hoping this time, the strict implementation will follow. For some people that want to rush in, either to gamble or they just excited being outside so they want to go at this place, I'm sure they already know what to do.

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August 31, 2020, 11:27:11 PM
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Since they now allow to commence operation for the third time, it seems they comply with those things needed in order to operate again. Authorities will not just allow for any business to resume without submitting their respective guidelines and terms especially for a large event place like Casinos and Restaurants.

And besides, the closure of the establishments before is because of the continuous rise of confirmed cases within the area and not because most numbers originated in this place which is a good idea to somehow control the spread.

Like many businesses that slowly resuming, hoping this time, the strict implementation will follow. For some people that want to rush in, either to gamble or they just excited being outside so they want to go at this place, I'm sure they already know what to do.

and the cooperation should not come from casinos and restaurants but also from their patrons also. because it is the only way to move forward if both parties will cooperate with each other. since the vaccine is not yet available, then it is better that patrons will strictly follow what is being asked from them. not hard to follow the rules if we want to avoid further damage, not only in terms of health status but our economic stature also

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August 31, 2020, 11:31:59 PM
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For those excited gamblers that want to get in as soon as it opens, they wouldn't care but to rush on it.

I'm under the impression that this will be the case, there will be a mad rush to go and play again. But this time though, they will be cautious and probably will wear protective mask.

We've seen many times how excited they are to get back in action and visit the casinos again after of months lockdown and no gambling at all. It's like they've missed to be back at home.

Gamblers will be gamblers, there will be that itch that everyone wanted to scratch, so this is another opportunity for them to get out and somewhat relieve themselves and play again after so many months of no action.
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September 01, 2020, 08:03:16 AM
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For those excited gamblers that want to get in as soon as it opens, they wouldn't care but to rush on it.

We've seen many times how excited they are to get back in action and visit the casinos again after of months lockdown and no gambling at all. It's like they've missed to be back at home.

That is how it should be I think.If I were back there in US I would directly go to the casinos and folllow all the procedures and guidelines for Covid 19 virus.You think like you are in an ambient which has given you only good vibes as long as you haven’t lost really big.Most probably the slot machines Rtp should be really high in the first days of the reopening in order to attract more customers.

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September 01, 2020, 09:14:09 AM
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We'll keep seeing businesses and industries slowly opening again because it's been around 6 months and they also need to generate income. But I think they'll be more strict in implementing protocols because it's their third time, and if they want to continuously operate, they need to ensure safety.

Some people are slowly getting used to this COVID thing and they're becoming less afraid to go outside so for sure, we'll see gamblers still rushing in even if there's still a pandemic. They will gamble when they want especially now that they have the opportunity after months of lockdown, they just need to be careful.
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September 01, 2020, 01:01:36 PM
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At least, that casino and restaurants have experienced before, and they know how to treat their customer.
Based on their experience, we hope that they will do whatever it takes
to prevent the spikes of the Covid-19.
Besides that, we hope that the gamblers are not rush in after reopening that place, and the customer needs to be careful and always follow health protocols.
Together with the casino, I am sure that they can prevent the spikes that were happened before.
It really needs attention from all people, including the employee and the customer, to always take care of their health, before and after visiting that place.

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I guess this time they are going to implement the health protocol correctly, the economy should not stop because people need to work make a living and provide services and products, the health experts have already set up everything that is needed to control the infection, and they just need to follow this strictly, this is the new normal now and we need to learn how to adapt.
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it was amazing to see that its thier 3rd time to re open  . these guys really want to come back in the game because they dont give up easily  . i dont think they or thier family is  starving but there could be other reason for this desperate move they are showing . it could be because they also want to help to earn and to enjoy , i like that mentality  .  also we shouldnt blame them on why they fail before because customers are also exhilarated , it can also be their fault .
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.

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Miami-Dade casinos and restaurants which offer indoor dining can reopen doors tomorrow, August 31.

Early in July, Miami-Dade saw multiple spikes of reported positive COVID-19 cases. As a result, six weeks after their initial reopening, the venues were ordered to shutdown once again. The order by Miami-Dade Mayor Gimenez came into effect on July 3. Besides the shutdown of casinos, the order also introduced a 10 PM curfew. Upon releasing the order back then, it was unknown for how long it would be in effect.


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https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-ventilation-and-air-conditioning-in-public-spaces-and-buildings-and-covid-19
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I do believe that its not on the restaurant themselves but also the people who are visiting and taking part in the games and such. One cannot expect everyone to maintain their personal hygiene and thus this is risky , even though the news says they have learned from their mistakes I do believe before this pandemic gets resolved these things can very easily go online.

We already have so many gambling sites and companies working endlessly online to support their customers but then again the physical interaction is something else.

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These businesses which are not able to shift online will soon surrender to the falling economy therefore if they are opening they are well aware of the situation and I do hope it goes well for them .

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September 01, 2020, 06:48:51 PM
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For those excited gamblers that want to get in as soon as it opens, they wouldn't care but to rush on it.

We've seen many times how excited they are to get back in action and visit the casinos again after of months lockdown and no gambling at all. It's like they've missed to be back at home.

That is how it should be I think.If I were back there in US I would directly go to the casinos and folllow all the procedures and guidelines for Covid 19 virus.You think like you are in an ambient which has given you only good vibes as long as you haven’t lost really big.Most probably the slot machines Rtp should be really high in the first days of the reopening in order to attract more customers.
The ambiance which every gambler is looking for is part of the rush.

But the joy and fun that was missed for a long time, it's also one of the reason why they will be quick to go back as soon as the re-opening has been granted by the local government.

Just like what we feel when we are too excited, that's what they feel.

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September 01, 2020, 06:53:28 PM
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Government has allowed these businesses to operate for obvious reasons - direct & indirect employments and revenue! But in reality, probably it's not a great idea at this point of  time considering Covid-19 is not showing any signs of slowing down. Definitely the recovery rate has increased worldwide but we still don't yet have a vaccine available for this decease. There was an alternate route available but US government is still very rigid on their stand against online casinos.

I personally think it is a good time to open up US market for online gambling business which has been closed since a long time now! It will keep the revenue incoming while keeping the virus at bay. But it seems US government is more focused to get back on economy race without caring about the public health!  
 

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September 02, 2020, 03:37:34 AM
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Caution is definitely coming from the business establishments themselves as well as from their patrons. But there should be a very strict monitoring by the government health authorities of health protocols and precautions implemented by businesses as it is inevitable that there are lax business owners as well as people who are unbelievably indifferent to the pandemic.

I am also wondering if fans would actually make it safer than air-condition systems. A fan installed in a corner will just blow the air away from the nearest person or people to those who are farther. Well, I am not a health expert but I guess the blow of the fan is enough to spread tiny and very light droplets.

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September 02, 2020, 06:20:20 AM
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Caution is definitely coming from the business establishments themselves as well as from their patrons. But there should be a very strict monitoring by the government health authorities of health protocols and precautions implemented by businesses as it is inevitable that there are lax business owners as well as people who are unbelievably indifferent to the pandemic.

Right, everyone should do their part here, restaurant owners, patrons, federal governments. If any of this three slip up, it will be chaos again. So I do hope that they learn their lessons and this third time will be a different.

I am also wondering if fans would actually make it safer than air-condition systems. A fan installed in a corner will just blow the air away from the nearest person or people to those who are farther. Well, I am not a health expert but I guess the blow of the fan is enough to spread tiny and very light droplets.

I really don't know where did they get this idea, but it seems the same effect, isn't it?

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September 02, 2020, 06:52:11 AM
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There's never enough security no matter what they do, there'd still be a pretty big chance that virus would spread among users. Though the fact that they were allowed to open up seems like a go signal from the authorities that the spread is pretty much under control looks to be good news imo, just that I hope such go signal isn't a result of wanting to boost economy but rather because the virus is under control. They should've honestly did a 3-4 week trial period, and if more than let's say 10 users got infected, they would close down again.

I am also wondering if fans would actually make it safer than air-condition systems. A fan installed in a corner will just blow the air away from the nearest person or people to those who are farther. Well, I am not a health expert but I guess the blow of the fan is enough to spread tiny and very light droplets.
Well, as long as the ventilation inside the casino is pretty good, fans would be more than enough. But if the ventilation was pretty bad, fans would only blow hot air from literally everywhere, making things a lot more hotter.

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September 02, 2020, 08:20:49 AM
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let's just hope that this works and that they really did learn from their mistakes and give extra care, precaution and attention to the customers and employee that might be breaking their protocols to prevent contamination and infection from the virus.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.
it depends on the person whether if they will be able to restrain themselves or not. what I am sure about is there will be people who is going to gamble and will be violating the current health protocols whether they do intentionally or not.

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Why not just take the whole thing online, i mean internet is accessible to all Americans and 95% of them owns a smartphone, and why don't the restaurants just do takeouts.
We pretty much know in casino's, it tends to be crowded and hectic. Unless this time they have the necessary precautions to properly handle customer then i guess its no problem, considering the stock market is in a dire state.

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September 02, 2020, 12:45:29 PM
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Why not just take the whole thing online, i mean internet is accessible to all Americans and 95% of them owns a smartphone, and why don't the restaurants just do takeouts.
We pretty much know in casino's, it tends to be crowded and hectic. Unless this time they have the necessary precautions to properly handle customer then i guess its no problem, considering the stock market is in a dire state.
I think some casino places have started migrating to online platforms because in offline places where their casinos are quiet affected by this virus outbreak, many people prefer to stay at home, while all over the world I believe everyone already has internet access so when they want to gamble it is easier to use the online system.
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Why not just take the whole thing online, i mean internet is accessible to all Americans and 95% of them owns a smartphone, and why don't the restaurants just do takeouts.
We pretty much know in casino's, it tends to be crowded and hectic. Unless this time they have the necessary precautions to properly handle customer then i guess its no problem, considering the stock market is in a dire state.

You can teach dogs old tricks, some old gamblers are not familiar to this online gambling and they want the same surroundings, they missed the atmosphere playing in a physical casinos, because it's not only about playing in casinos they missed, they also want to interact to their co players there, they missed the drinks and of course the crowd the attraction of physical casinos will never fade away.
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I think most of them will just standby and see if nothing goes wrong to those who rush to play to the Casino as soon as it opens. When they see nothing has happened to those people, then you will see that those who are waiting will also back to their old habits.

The rest of the Casinos and restaurants are still close because they cannot assume their customer's safety since they don't have the necessary things to do so because one wrong move or if something happens with the customers, they will face some trials and probably pay for the damage they have done.

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September 02, 2020, 02:50:30 PM
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Why not just take the whole thing online, i mean internet is accessible to all Americans and 95% of them owns a smartphone, and why don't the restaurants just do takeouts.
We pretty much know in casino's, it tends to be crowded and hectic. Unless this time they have the necessary precautions to properly handle customer then i guess its no problem, considering the stock market is in a dire state.
I think some casino places have started migrating to online platforms because in offline places where their casinos are quiet affected by this virus outbreak, many people prefer to stay at home, while all over the world I believe everyone already has internet access so when they want to gamble it is easier to use the online system.

I don't think that this is going to work. Online gambling is quite different from offline (physical) gambling and the target groups are also very different from each other. On top of that, moving the business to an online platform is not very easy. It takes a great deal of effort and funds. They need to setup the software, online payment gateways.etc.
I remembered Fred trump where he said to his son which is Donald trump to not enter in the gambling industry because only few entrepreneurs and businessman that can dominate the industry, but trump did not listen and continued to make investment in gambling industry and real estate where it leads to him to become one of the billionaires. The recent casino that been opened in the Miami is good, I do not think that it is a bad decision because for sure it backed by a lot of planning and strategies where the management come up to open a casino even though there is still pandemic. Online and traditional casinos are really different but I found out that those traditional casino gamblers are really prefer to go in casinos even though there is still pandemic than to make account in online casinos. I do not know if this new casino in Miami will survive this pandemic because a lot of people are now afraid to have a virus and the competition in that area is also stiff wherein the market is been divided again because of the new casino.
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September 02, 2020, 03:31:05 PM
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I don't blame the government for reopening casinos and restaurants, because the government is doing it for a purpose
economic recovery. But the pandemic is not over, so it is imperative to follow health protocols. If Casinos and restaurants
turned out to be violations are found, then the government has the right to close the casinos and restaurants again. Even
though now it is online gambling is much safer, but it all depends on the individual. Because some people feel more comfortable
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September 02, 2020, 03:45:55 PM
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I don't blame the government for reopening casinos and restaurants, because the government is doing it for a purpose
economic recovery. But the pandemic is not over, so it is imperative to follow health protocols. If Casinos and restaurants
turned out to be violations are found, then the government has the right to close the casinos and restaurants again. Even
though now it is online gambling is much safer, but it all depends on the individual. Because some people feel more comfortable
playing gambling at physical casino.
Yeah, the people also need to work to survive during the pandemic and there are many workers in a casino and restaurant. So I guess the move of opening some of the establishments is also in favor of the people because it's hard to survive in this kind of pandemic where our health care system is not that good.

So I don't blame them because it will also a factor for the economic growth of the country. The only thing they must do is to have a protocol that will prevent cases of the virus.
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September 02, 2020, 03:47:29 PM
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I think most of them will just standby and see if nothing goes wrong to those who rush to play to the Casino as soon as it opens. When they see nothing has happened to those people, then you will see that those who are waiting will also back to their old habits.

The rest of the Casinos and restaurants are still close because they cannot assume their customer's safety since they don't have the necessary things to do so because one wrong move or if something happens with the customers, they will face some trials and probably pay for the damage they have done.

   If they wish to work and earn they will have to follow the rules. If they are not able to do that they will get out of the business,
it's how I see this situation. Now are casinos and restaurants capable for doing that depends on them. I understand casinos have
to work in order employers to receive salaries and people to have fun, but we need to follow the measures for protection against
Covid-19. Let's see what will happen in the next month or two, will there be increase in the number of new cases or people will
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September 02, 2020, 03:55:03 PM
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50% of their operating capacity is way too much, I still think that restaurants should stay closed into the virus infection rate gets under 1 (R value).

The US is an absolute laughing stock over how it handled the pandemic. They've got more cases and higher cases per million than even third-world countries.

They are still recording more daily cases than anywhere else, but think it's time to reopen? Come on man.

I don't think punters will bother going back to the casinos now, the majority have likely switched to online casinos during this lockdown, and wont want to go back to paying extortionate house edges.
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If the management of the casinos can forced the players to restrain caution then the players can't do anything instead they will just follow the casinos management especially if they really like to play.

If there will no lapses to the management of the casino owners then they can surely minimize the cases that will happen in their area especially if they already learned from their past mistakes that cause a huge surge of covid cases.
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Basically, Covid-19 is still around us, so no matter how many entertainment venues, businesses and casinos are opened, it will still get a spike from the Covid-19 case itself. All health procedures and protocols have been implemented but still, when there is a crowd that is where the spread of the virus will occur. The opening of places like this is basically to restore the economy, and I just want to remind you to always be vigilant and aware of whatever we do in casino places and any crowded places out there, because this virus is still there and can attack anyone.

Various studies have shown that antibodies for COVID 19 are present in a large portion of the population. It can range from 20% to 80%, depending on the geography. If someone is having the antibody, the chances are that he will not get infected again from the Coronavirus. The governments should do mass testing of the general population and if someone is found to be having the antibody in his body, then he/she should be allowed to excuse himself from the lockdown regulations.
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September 07, 2020, 05:53:35 AM
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I think some casino places have started migrating to online platforms because in offline places where their casinos are quiet affected by this virus outbreak, many people prefer to stay at home, while all over the world I believe everyone already has internet access so when they want to gamble it is easier to use the online system.

And some other casinos remain to run and open their physical casinos. That is because they couldn't wait a little longer for the curve to flatten. And also, the development of a gambling site could take a month to finish as they need to beta test its feature especially to match the platform to their physical casino.

With regards to alternative casinos such as those that are online, I advise that they should use provably fair casinos to ensure fairness and they could verify their bet's outcome.
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Basically, Covid-19 is still around us, so no matter how many entertainment venues, businesses and casinos are opened, it will still get a spike from the Covid-19 case itself. All health procedures and protocols have been implemented but still, when there is a crowd that is where the spread of the virus will occur. The opening of places like this is basically to restore the economy, and I just want to remind you to always be vigilant and aware of whatever we do in casino places and any crowded places out there, because this virus is still there and can attack anyone.

Various studies have shown that antibodies for COVID 19 are present in a large portion of the population. It can range from 20% to 80%, depending on the geography. If someone is having the antibody, the chances are that he will not get infected again from the Coronavirus. The governments should do mass testing of the general population and if someone is found to be having the antibody in his body, then he/she should be allowed to excuse himself from the lockdown regulations.

@bryant.coleman this is a bad idea because every country’s health care departments are already stressed, and if gamblers rush in to do these kind of tests then they’ll further end up burdening their country’s healthcare departments, which’s is already struggling to cope up with covid patients. Also the part about developing antibodies is true, but lately I’m reading about cases where a covid patient who was completely cured has been infected by covid once again, hence these kinds of test may prove ineffective for the gamblers in the long run.

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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2768947

https://fox8.com/news/nevada-man-may-be-first-documented-covid-19-reinfection-case-in-us/

https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/24/first-covid-19-reinfection-documented-in-hong-kong-researchers-say/
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September 07, 2020, 09:28:06 AM
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@Juggy777, I am more in favor of the proposals by Bryant. This pandemic is going to last for many more months and it is not practical to shut down the economy any further. Like what you said, it is true that some of those who infected earlier got the virus for the second time. But such instances are extremely rare, and they occur when the infected person didn't developed the antibodies in his blood stream, when he got infected for the first time.

The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

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September 08, 2020, 04:44:07 AM
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The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

Agreed. Various seroepidemiological studies have shown that a large portion of the world population already possess antibodies against COVID 19. And example is here:

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/percentage-of-people-with-antibodies-high/article32156162.ece
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31483-5/fulltext

This means that the risk from COVID 19 is going down with time, as those with antibodies may not get infected again. In cities such as Delhi and Mumbai, upto 50% of the population was found to have antibodies. So I don't think that it is justified to close the economy anymore.
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September 08, 2020, 06:18:17 AM
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The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

Agreed. Various seroepidemiological studies have shown that a large portion of the world population already possess antibodies against COVID 19. And example is here:

https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Delhi/percentage-of-people-with-antibodies-high/article32156162.ece
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31483-5/fulltext

This means that the risk from COVID 19 is going down with time, as those with antibodies may not get infected again. In cities such as Delhi and Mumbai, upto 50% of the population was found to have antibodies. So I don't think that it is justified to close the economy anymore.

I beg to differ the number of cases globally is on the rise and especially in those countries where there is no restriction. I do understand that people need to work otherwise they will dies because of starvation but you also cannot expect people to sincerely follow the protocols.

Untill strict measures are in place in both situation (Lockdown or non lockdown) people will suffer and die.

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It will be funny when they close casinos and restaurants again! It's like circus, businesses are being closed and opened, new measures, new regulations, first wave, second wave, third wave... yesterday I am reading some "experts" and they are talking about virus and how virus survived summer, when winter comes covid will have sex with seasonal flue, and we will have some doom child that will be more dangerous than anything we saw until now. This world is going crazy from this brainwashing campaign!
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September 08, 2020, 09:33:40 AM
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@Juggy777, I am more in favor of the proposals by Bryant. This pandemic is going to last for many more months and it is not practical to shut down the economy any further. Like what you said, it is true that some of those who infected earlier got the virus for the second time. But such instances are extremely rare, and they occur when the infected person didn't developed the antibodies in his blood stream, when he got infected for the first time.

The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there  because the starvation  is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job while following government protocols  .

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September 08, 2020, 11:10:10 AM
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.



They learned their lesson well, if there is a fourth time they will be in trouble because it's seldom that a company was given a chance to re open for a third and it should not be the case, if this happen in our country the company will be facing a stiff penalty and they might not open again, following the health protocols should be the top priority of any companies in this time of pandemic.
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It's a rare policy, usually authorities gives chance to first offence but you will not be given a chance if you commit the same offense again. But this is different, they are given a chance to operate again in the 3rd time, maybe this is just due to exemption since we are under the pandemic, people needs job, hence the authorities can lightly implement the law to help the economy recover, and save people from getting unemployed.

Maybe they should follow the system of Vegas as they have not reported to commit violation on the safety protocol.
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.



They learned their lesson well, if there is a fourth time they will be in trouble because it's seldom that a company was given a chance to re open for a third and it should not be the case, if this happen in our country the company will be facing a stiff penalty and they might not open again, following the health protocols should be the top priority of any companies in this time of pandemic.

Since cafe's and restaurants can run on home delivery business only, they should be limited in their operations for dine in. Only take away should be opened so that there is no risk of gathering and spreading of coronavirus. Restaurants may wait for another couple of month before being opened in full.









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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.
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@Juggy777, I am more in favor of the proposals by Bryant. This pandemic is going to last for many more months and it is not practical to shut down the economy any further. Like what you said, it is true that some of those who infected earlier got the virus for the second time. But such instances are extremely rare, and they occur when the infected person didn't developed the antibodies in his blood stream, when he got infected for the first time.

The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there  because the starvation  is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job while following government protocols  .
although many sectors have started to rise again but offline gambling places still have not received permission to operate and in my opinion it will take a very long process to be able to make the economy in a country return to normal because with the virus, many sectors of import and export logistics have collapsed.

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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place, and even if there are there's still a possibility of infection because you do not know where the virus is coming you only know the circumstances but there are no such things as perfect protocols, even in hospitals where doctors and nurses are fully equipped with PPE and protection they still get infected how much more in a place where people from different places come and go.


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September 08, 2020, 05:33:04 PM
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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures.
Well that's how most of the theories work, by trial and error the risk is always high at first, mild at second and supposed to be low at the third time. I'm pretty sure we can reopen now with effective guidelines measure, appropriate attires, proper hygiene and self-awareness. Lesson from the past attempts surely sinks in.

And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.
but I forgot this is America, land of self proclaim people. Saying that the virus is not real, "my body, my choice" lol I'm not telling all the americans, I  haven't been there, but what I see on videos and articles describe what it's like in there.
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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place, and even if there are there's still a possibility of infection because you do not know where the virus is coming you only know the circumstances but there are no such things as perfect protocols, even in hospitals where doctors and nurses are fully equipped with PPE and protection they still get infected how much more in a place where people from different places come and go.
Still now there is no perfect security measures that is why government set all the business to open to get some revenue which can be useful to tackle the losses made earlier this year.Schools and malls are also set to open so it is not a wonder to have a operating casino under new normal.
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September 08, 2020, 06:47:58 PM
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The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place,
why no ? they ready declared quarantine which means they already know the rules to be followed  but indeed it was only hard at first because the virus is still fresh and many people already carried and pass the virus without knowing it .

even in hospitals where doctors and nurses are fully equipped with PPE and protection they still get infected how much more in a place where people from different places come and go.
health workers are more prone because they faced so many sick people not unlike to a common individual that some of the people you faced are healthy  and the air that you breathe are mostly fresh because your arent in a hospital or a closed room .
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September 08, 2020, 08:55:42 PM
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The first two months of the quarantine is probably the hardest because no guidelines and protocols are in place,
why no ? they ready declared quarantine which means they already know the rules to be followed  but indeed it was only hard at first because the virus is still fresh and many people already carried and pass the virus without knowing it .
Guidelines and protocols are in immediate effect when there is a pandemic such a virus, it is 24/7 broadcast in the news like a basic proper hygiene, use of face mask and social distancing. Maybe there was an adjustment made by establishment, but that depends on the owner or staff whether they want their place clean or not. There are even people going outside even their area is under quarantined.

With all this, the question should start why Miami reopening casinos and restaurants. This is probably due to their economic losses that they need to cope up with.

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September 08, 2020, 09:05:12 PM
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.



They learned their lesson well, if there is a fourth time they will be in trouble because it's seldom that a company was given a chance to re open for a third and it should not be the case, if this happen in our country the company will be facing a stiff penalty and they might not open again, following the health protocols should be the top priority of any companies in this time of pandemic.

Since cafe's and restaurants can run on home delivery business only, they should be limited in their operations for dine in. Only take away should be opened so that there is no risk of gathering and spreading of coronavirus. Restaurants may wait for another couple of month before being opened in full.
There are already some establishments or restaurants that do partially open or in operation yet it cant really be possible for now for them to open and make arrangement just like on a normal day.

Its just understandable that government had already given out permission for them to open but of course they would need to follow the new protocol for them to able to do so.

This isnt just only for their own good but also this do really limit out the spread since it would really create a big problem if transmission would really be happen just because it did really generate some crowd.

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So for the third time they allowed these establishments to operate again and I think they should now be ready with the protocols and things needed before they operate their business. The government will not allow for them to resume without these establishments complying to the guidelines and terms set by the government. And being large gathering places, these business must comply. Further lockdowns might weaken some business up to the point that they can no longer operate and will need to shutdown.

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September 08, 2020, 10:21:06 PM
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So for the third time they allowed these establishments to operate again and I think they should now be ready with the protocols and things needed before they operate their business. The government will not allow for them to resume without these establishments complying to the guidelines and terms set by the government. And being large gathering places, these business must comply. Further lockdowns might weaken some business up to the point that they can no longer operate and will need to shutdown.

The government are weighing things here, and they choose not to imposed the penalty of completely shutting down the business as they need their economy to continue to flow, people will suffer for being jobless and government would be able to collect tax from this establishment.

This is the time where the government needs more funds for the budget, so they might increase the tax to compensate the expenses they spend in battling the pandemic, with that said, they can't just easily close a business which is the source of their taxes, unless they made a serious offence neglecting the protocol despite given a chance to operate again.

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It's not easy to deal with COVID-19, not only Miami Dade is having a hard time reopening casinos and restaurants.
Almost all crowded places will experience the same thing, when it reopens there will be a huge surge in cases. But
indeed the economy must recover, so Miami Dade has reopened casinos and restaurants for the third time. So it
requires the awareness of all people to always comply with all established health protocols, so it can be prevented
the spread of COVID-19.

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It's not easy to deal with COVID-19, not only Miami Dade is having a hard time reopening casinos and restaurants.
Almost all crowded places will experience the same thing, when it reopens there will be a huge surge in cases. But
indeed the economy must recover, so Miami Dade has reopened casinos and restaurants for the third time. So it
requires the awareness of all people to always comply with all established health protocols, so it can be prevented
the spread of COVID-19.

the problem is all around the world. it is how they will implement their health safety protocols to lessen further infection. as many casinos are already opening up to the community, the potential of covid infection is always there. because even if a person is not showing the symptoms but asymptomatic, he can infect others who are vulnerable to this disease.
 so these establishments will do their part to follow the protocols but the people themselves should also follow the regulations on their end.

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September 09, 2020, 02:35:16 AM
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This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there  because the starvation  is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job while following government protocols  .

My country is one of the country that opted to open the economy despite oppositions from medical experts, this is a decision that our leaders have hard time to address, the budget has been realigned to address the CoVid issues and they have to open the economy and that includes casinos and restaurants but the guideline is they can only accommodate half of their capacity, failure to follow will result in permanent closure of the establishment.

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This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there  because the starvation  is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job while following government protocols  .

My country is one of the country that opted to open the economy despite oppositions from medical experts, this is a decision that our leaders have hard time to address, the budget has been realigned to address the CoVid issues and they have to open the economy and that includes casinos and restaurants but the guideline is they can only accommodate half of their capacity, failure to follow will result in permanent closure of the establishment.
Same here,The government must decide to stay keeping safe while the economy will continue dying,or risk the health( but with extreme rules of social distancing and wearing mask and facemask) so economy will still lead to recovery.
because now all countries are falling and this virus tearing every economy so decision must be made for the benefits of everyone/









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September 09, 2020, 03:33:01 AM
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I beg to differ the number of cases globally is on the rise and especially in those countries where there is no restriction. I do understand that people need to work otherwise they will dies because of starvation but you also cannot expect people to sincerely follow the protocols.

Untill strict measures are in place in both situation (Lockdown or non lockdown) people will suffer and die.

The number of new infections are not rising. They are going down in some of the most affected countries such as the United States, Brazil, South Africa and Mexico. Only in a few countries such as India, the number of new cases is going up. This means that we are moving towards herd immunity, and in 3 to 6 months most of the regions will be able to achieve that.
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September 09, 2020, 08:39:04 AM
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@Juggy777, I am more in favor of the proposals by Bryant. This pandemic is going to last for many more months and it is not practical to shut down the economy any further. Like what you said, it is true that some of those who infected earlier got the virus for the second time. But such instances are extremely rare, and they occur when the infected person didn't developed the antibodies in his blood stream, when he got infected for the first time.

The longer that the economy is closed the soonest the government will go bankrupt, the only way they can battle losing the economy is to set up restrictions and health protocol that everyone will follow, that way they can save the economy and there will be lower infections, people will not suffer from the virus but they will likely suffer from starvation.

This is the reasons why many countries prepared to open their economy slowly even they know that virus is still there  because the starvation  is much biggest problem compared to people that will die having that virus.

Its time to adopt it and know how to do your job
while following government protocols.


I would say instead: "while following the best  safety measures/safety protocol".    Everyone expects that government will have the best safety rule for the crisis... If a government does not have the best safety rules, people who have or know them could fill in the gap. The effectiveness of such measures will be seen in the evidence-based results that work/help/prevent the situation.
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September 09, 2020, 09:51:32 AM
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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.

It really is, but they cannot do this trial and error for so many times, they are going to lose a lot if they keep on having issues with infections they need to perfect the health protocols now or they will face penalties and closure of the establishment, the authorities will consider this negligence in implementing the health protocols.

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September 09, 2020, 10:58:25 AM
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It's not easy to deal with COVID-19, not only Miami Dade is having a hard time reopening casinos and restaurants.
Almost all crowded places will experience the same thing, when it reopens there will be a huge surge in cases. But
indeed the economy must recover, so Miami Dade has reopened casinos and restaurants for the third time. So it
requires the awareness of all people to always comply with all established health protocols, so it can be prevented
the spread of COVID-19.
This is true it's not easy to dealt with this pandemic happening. Even here in my country the businesses are slowly opening but they must follow the protocols for them to operate. Even in our country casinos are not yet fully operational to lessen the spread of this virus. Since Miami Dade are about to open hope this time they will follow the guidelines for the safety of the people.
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September 09, 2020, 11:47:44 AM
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It's not easy to deal with COVID-19, not only Miami Dade is having a hard time reopening casinos and restaurants.
Almost all crowded places will experience the same thing, when it reopens there will be a huge surge in cases. But
indeed the economy must recover, so Miami Dade has reopened casinos and restaurants for the third time. So it
requires the awareness of all people to always comply with all established health protocols, so it can be prevented
the spread of COVID-19.
This is true it's not easy to dealt with this pandemic happening. Even here in my country the businesses are slowly opening but they must follow the protocols for them to operate. Even in our country casinos are not yet fully operational to lessen the spread of this virus. Since Miami Dade are about to open hope this time they will follow the guidelines for the safety of the people.
It is happening here because many people disobey the rules and don't care about the impact of Covid-19, which they saw in the news.
Every business here is trying to use a strict rule for all of its employees because they don't want to break the government's rule, so that makes the company check all their employees before they enter the office.
It is not easy, but they must do it if they don't want to see a new cluster in their company.
The employee, the customer, and the staff must pass the check, and if one of them is caught positive or reactive, that person must do quarantine at home or hospital.

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September 09, 2020, 01:37:01 PM
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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures.
Well that's how most of the theories work, by trial and error the risk is always high at first, mild at second and supposed to be low at the third time. I'm pretty sure we can reopen now with effective guidelines measure, appropriate attires, proper hygiene and self-awareness. Lesson from the past attempts surely sinks in.

However this is not a theory. One step amiss and a life may be cut, human life in particular. But of course I agree with what you generally mean. This is all about trying to make things work in the middle of a pandemic. One lesson learned at a time, eventually these casinos and restaurants will open and operate without the risk of spreading the virus.

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And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.
but I forgot this is America, land of self proclaim people. Saying that the virus is not real, "my body, my choice" lol I'm not telling all the americans, I  haven't been there, but what I see on videos and articles describe what it's like in there.

That's true. This is one major factor. It is very hard to strike a balance when the people themselves are now disregarding health protocols due to their misplaced behavior. There should be a very strict enforcement of health measures to make sure lives are not put at risk.
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September 09, 2020, 02:08:15 PM
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I would say instead: "while following the best  safety measures/safety protocol".    Everyone expects that government will have the best safety rule for the crisis... If a government does not have the best safety rules, people who have or know them could fill in the gap. The effectiveness of such measures will be seen in the evidence-based results that work/help/prevent the situation.

The governments (with the exception of those in US, Mexico, Brazil.etc) formulated the best safety rules from the very beginning. Here in India, we had strict lockdown for 7 weeks. But the problem is that some of the citizens refused to follow these instructions. Although they constituted for a small fraction (may be less than 1%), these people resulted in the infection from spreading to the general population. 

It seems that it is not only in India that the spread of the corona virus is caused by people who refuse government instructions.
In some other countries there are also very many people who cause the spread of COVID-19, due to people who are lack of
awareness to adhere to health protocols. It is true that people refuse to follow related government regulations health protocols
are usually scanty. But even though the numbers are small, the consequences are very dangerous. Could cause the spread of
the corona virus to become more widespread.

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September 09, 2020, 02:35:23 PM
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This is trial and error. They opened their casinos and restaurants with measures that would prevent the spread of the virus and they failed the first time. They corrected their errors and opened those businesses again. The second time around, they still had failures and then they learned lessons and designed certain additional measures. And now this is their third attempt. I wish for them the best. This is obviously a hard time to balance the attempt for economic recovery with keeping the virus at bay.
It really is, but they cannot do this trial and error for so many times, they are going to lose a lot if they keep on having issues with infections they need to perfect the health protocols now or they will face penalties and closure of the establishment, the authorities will consider this negligence in implementing the health protocols.
Apparently, there is no perfect protocols here. There will be always a risk of getting someone infected  Undecided. Well the thing here is, minimizing those chances of infection, by means of tightening their parameters on handling such operation much better than before. And it could only be done, by having this trial and error thing. Not sayin' to play with someone's life but you cannot exclude the fact that somebody's health may always get tainted here, no matter how strict or thorough their guidelines are. And I bet the authorities/officials behind this knew all of that, even before reconsidering this venture.
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.
Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.
Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.
Its actually happening on my place or country now where the number of cases did really rise up after lifting such restriction and i can say that citizens did really make a big mistake on believing that everything is already
fine or undercontrol since the prohibition is lifted which is totally wrong.They do forgot to continue that social distancing and other health protocols which it did really end up on taking it effective once again.
Its just normal for a business or establishment to follow up rules because if they wont then either they would be on such closure or would really be having that fine.This isnt only happening on Miami Dade
but in most business nowadays that do have physical form.

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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
why not ? to me 6 months is still low compare to the lethal effect of the virus  .staying at home is still advice until further notice . many people predicted that the routine like this can last till the year end or till next year . no problem with that because we people already know how  to strive with the current situation that we have now .

  this does not depend on the individual if what he will do but you can still get arrested if you live like theres no pandemic .
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September 15, 2020, 08:03:14 AM
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.

The question is what happens when people get infected? We all know if one infected person enters the premises he can infect everyone. Are the authorities prepared for the consequence? Is the business willing to take such a big risk? If yes, then I do not think it is a problem..

People are now not taking this pandemic seriously for the obvious reason. Whatever protocol you have placed, some one will not follow it and it is not possible to keep an eye on everyone.

You also cannot deny that a business cannot remain closed anymore in the coming months, they need to earn money to pay to their employees and government needs revenue through taxes from such business.

Therefore the situation is completely messed and complicated and no one knows what to do next?


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The question is what happens when people get infected? We all know if one infected person enters the premises he can infect everyone. Are the authorities prepared for the consequence? Is the business willing to take such a big risk? If yes, then I do not think it is a problem..

People are now not taking this pandemic seriously for the obvious reason. Whatever protocol you have placed, some one will not follow it and it is not possible to keep an eye on everyone.

You also cannot deny that a business cannot remain closed anymore in the coming months, they need to earn money to pay to their employees and government needs revenue through taxes from such business.

Therefore the situation is completely messed and complicated and no one knows what to do next?

Obviously if the businesses are open, then there will be a higher risk of spreading the infection. But now we know a great deal about the virus and how it infects the human beings, unlike the case six months ago. So we can have effective preventive mechanisms, even if the economy needs to be restarted. In the end, some risk will still be there. But then we need to live with that much risk for at least the next 6-12 months.
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Obviously if the businesses are open, then there will be a higher risk of spreading the infection. But now we know a great deal about the virus and how it infects the human beings, unlike the case six months ago. So we can have effective preventive mechanisms, even if the economy needs to be restarted. In the end, some risk will still be there. But then we need to live with that much risk for at least the next 6-12 months.

Gambling isn't really the best solution to support the economy in this crisis. Third world countries collects huge amount of tax from BPO companies, other businesses such as those which focuses on production of goods and essential services are open. That is why I think the reason why casinos are opening too is because they have employees who needs to work in order to live not because casinos make the economy stable. I am not against it as long as they are following strict protocols to lessen and prevent the spread of the virus.

The question is: why most of the physical casinos are still not developing and deploying their online gambling site? The answer is still employees to work and it takes allot of time to develop a gambling site.
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In an order passed on Friday Casinos and Restaurants are now allowed to reopen for the third time in Miami Dade, and further they can now serve their patrons up to 50% of their operating capacity.

It’s pertinent to note that this time they have learnt from their past mistakes, and now they’ll be required to run fans in the hvac system when their customers are in the premises, and this is done because covid is know to spread through air conditioners.

Also I’m expecting gamblers to rush in, and gamble out there since they haven’t played since quiet a while now, but what do you’ll think will they be able to restrain caution or will they immediately go and play out there?.

Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.
Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.
Its actually happening on my place or country now where the number of cases did really rise up after lifting such restriction and i can say that citizens did really make a big mistake on believing that everything is already
fine or undercontrol since the prohibition is lifted which is totally wrong.They do forgot to continue that social distancing and other health protocols which it did really end up on taking it effective once again.
Its just normal for a business or establishment to follow up rules because if they wont then either they would be on such closure or would really be having that fine.This isnt only happening on Miami Dade
but in most business nowadays that do have physical form.

I guess that is happening in many countries after the new normal. People tend to disobey the health protocol by not wearing a mask, they don't use social distancing, they were in a crowd, and many else.

It does not happen to the gambling industries, but it's happened to many industries, so if that continues, I am afraid the number of infected people will increase and not reduce. The health protocols need to be done in all countries while we are in this pandemic, so at least we can prevent ourselves from the virus.

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The question is: why most of the physical casinos are still not developing and deploying their online gambling site? The answer is still employees to work and it takes allot of time to develop a gambling site.

I think that this question has been already answered. Online gambling is entirely different from physical gambling. Even the clientele is radically different. If the physical casinos set up online sites, their customers would mostly avoid those. I am someone who have been to physical casinos and I have spent a lot of time in online gambling. For me, these two domains are polar opposites.
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The question is: why most of the physical casinos are still not developing and deploying their online gambling site? The answer is still employees to work and it takes allot of time to develop a gambling site.

I think that this question has been already answered. Online gambling is entirely different from physical gambling. Even the clientele is radically different. If the physical casinos set up online sites, their customers would mostly avoid those. I am someone who have been to physical casinos and I have spent a lot of time in online gambling. For me, these two domains are polar opposites.
we have preferences when playing and also depends on our Moods,but i think Online and physical gambling are both enjoyable
specially when times that we are so busy and has no time going to physical casinosso we will spend our time in Online where we can do anything
even when we are Busy.
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September 16, 2020, 11:30:56 AM
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we have preferences when playing and also depends on our Moods,but i think Online and physical gambling are both enjoyable
specially when times that we are so busy and has no time going to physical casinosso we will spend our time in Online where we can do anything
even when we are Busy. It will only take few minutes to conduct betting.

I agree that both (online and physical gambling) are enjoyable. But the level of enjoyment may be different. Here in India, there is only one state (Goa) where casinos are allowed to operate. People visit these casinos because they are considered "exotic" and not necessarily because they are compulsive gamblers. This "exotic" experience may be absent, if you rely on the online casinos. 
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As the Economy around the world continues to go down because of the pandemic, governments are torn between opening businesses again to slowly bring up the economy but the risk is still there which was already mentioned in OP's post and not opening but to watch the Economy to suffer even more.

It seems that the late action of the Governments to pandemic is already backfiring to them, to us. Here in our country, if only the president agreed to shut down the airports to avoid having people from other places, mostly in China to enter the country, we surely don't have any COVID-19 cases here in the Philippines, but yeah, things happened and can't go back anymore.
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.
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Well, this is a rather common occurrence all over the world, once the restrictions are lifted many people go back to their old habits not understanding that we still need to keep all the security measures to not get infected with the virus and not infect anyone else, then when we predictably see a spike in the number of cases the government needs to close the doors of businesses once again, lets hope that people have finally learned their lesson and they can gamble responsibly or they will have to close the doors of casinos once again.

We are facing this since March, and now almost 6 months have passed. It is no longer viable for everyone to stay at home. The economy needs to be restarted, else a lot more people are going to lose their jobs. A large fraction of the population has seen their savings vanish. They can no longer afford to stay at home. Finally, it is up to the individual to protect himself. The risk can be quite low, if proper precautions are taken.
Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.
I definitely agree with you all. This is also why the role of the important is very important during these uncertain times. The government should strictly implement protocols as for the public to strictly follow it. They should also come up with programs that are relevant in this new normal to cope up with the employment rate and provide jobs to those who were laid off their former jobs. The survival of both the public and the economy will be impacted upon the movements of the government.

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Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.

Whenever I am going out, I am using a face-shield and mask. Obviously there is no shortage of anti-socials, who want to spread the infection by disregarding social distancing. There is not much we can do about such people. At the most, we can keep a distance from them. Apart from that, I am also in favor of restarting the economy. It is not viable to stay inside our homes for another 12 months.
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Indeed, but there are some guidelines that everyone must follow and do to minimize the possibility of virus transmission in public places. The discipline should be with everybody, hence we will just suffer again more and if this pandemic did not stop soon, life will become even more harder to us. Some authorized people are free to go anywhere, so they should compromise with the parameters that has been given.
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why not ? to me 6 months is still low compare to the lethal effect of the virus  .staying at home is still advice until further notice . many people predicted that the routine like this can last till the year end or till next year . no problem with that because we people already know how  to strive with the current situation that we have now .

  this does not depend on the individual if what he will do but you can still get arrested if you live like theres no pandemic .

The lethality of the virus is as high as they want it to be.

Every place you go has different opinions and different restrictions. Some countries don't have them at all.

If you're allowed to go to conferences, open stores and restaurants, why not casinos? Should casinos be the victim here because they aren't essential.
For me gambling entertainment is as important as going out for a meal or meeting with friends.

Either they shut everything down or open everything. Allowing some businesses to open and keep other ones shut down is stupid.
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Indeed, but there are some guidelines that everyone must follow and do to minimize the possibility of virus transmission in public places. The discipline should be with everybody, hence we will just suffer again more and if this pandemic did not stop soon, life will become even more harder to us.

Some authorized people are free to go anywhere, so they should compromise with the parameters that has been given.

It should be more tighter  to everyone  there's should be no  exemption as this  pandemic  virus  can easily  transfer from person to  person,  doing all the necessary  protocols  should be applied. 

With  tighter guidelines  any  businesses  have to follow  as it will lessen  the  chances of transmitting  this virus.  If anyone  wants to have a much safer  business  they  should  be guided by the government  rules and regulations  from  how they  fight  with  this virus.

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why not ? to me 6 months is still low compare to the lethal effect of the virus  .staying at home is still advice until further notice . many people predicted that the routine like this can last till the year end or till next year . no problem with that because we people already know how  to strive with the current situation that we have now .

  this does not depend on the individual if what he will do but you can still get arrested if you live like theres no pandemic .

The lethality of the virus is as high as they want it to be.

Every place you go has different opinions and different restrictions. Some countries don't have them at all.

If you're allowed to go to conferences, open stores and restaurants, why not casinos? Should casinos be the victim here because they aren't essential.
For me gambling entertainment is as important as going out for a meal or meeting with friends.

Either they shut everything down or open everything. Allowing some businesses to open and keep other ones shut down is stupid.
Its your own point of view but i dont see anything wrong for it to be closed since its really a place that can generate out crowd and also you cant stop government if they do only impose

that allowing only those establishments on the essentials side and excluding those businesses who arent included on the bracket.What you can do if they would decide on that?

It might sound stupid but they do have the point on not letting other businesses to open due to this kind of reason.Its not something we do called as a victim yet come to think

that there are still lots are on the same side.

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Indeed, but there are some guidelines that everyone must follow and do to minimize the possibility of virus transmission in public places. The discipline should be with everybody, hence we will just suffer again more and if this pandemic did not stop soon, life will become even more harder to us. Some authorized people are free to go anywhere, so they should compromise with the parameters that has been given.

Discipline is really the main thing here because no matter how hard the government do impose such rule if the citizens are too hard headed then it would be useless but somewhat having such control

would really minimize out the spread or the risk of increased of infected person.For you had mentioned those authorized people to roam everywhere as they like then its understandable because

who would be the one to manage if they're included on such restriction? Its does really need access because things would be stagnant if there no workforce would be moving.

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It is understandable how in the USA they try to reopen their businesses despite the fact that they are dealing with the worst pandemic. According to what was read in this article published on August 31, this new reopening of the Casinos is being taken with more supervision and enforcing the protocol to avoid possible infections.

As long as the health controls are duly followed, I think that they may contain the virus and there will also be more immune response. Because they will learn to live with the virus as long as the Covid19 vaccine is available.

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It is understandable how in the USA they try to reopen their businesses despite the fact that they are dealing with the worst pandemic. According to what was read in this article published on August 31, this new reopening of the Casinos is being taken with more supervision and enforcing the protocol to avoid possible infections.

As long as the health controls are duly followed, I think that they may contain the virus and there will also be more immune response. Because they will learn to live with the virus as long as the Covid19 vaccine is available.


If the casino is not using a strict health protocol, the new case will increase than before, and that will make the government difficult to handle the people. Every country uses that too because the government doesn't want to see the new case every day, but people still don't care about their health. We see that many people disobey the health protocol, and they always need to remind by the officials, and the officials always searching for people who don't obey the rule.

We need to follow the health protocols to prevent the virus infection, and that is what we need to do when we are in the public area and the crowd. We need to survive before the vaccine can be found.
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If the casino is not using a strict health protocol, the new case will increase than before, and that will make the government difficult to handle the people. Every country uses that too because the government doesn't want to see the new case every day, but people still don't care about their health. We see that many people disobey the health protocol, and they always need to remind by the officials, and the officials always searching for people who don't obey the rule.

We need to follow the health protocols to prevent the virus infection, and that is what we need to do when we are in the public area and the crowd. We need to survive before the vaccine can be found.

If the supermarkets, saloons.etc are open, then it doesn't make sense to continue with the suspension of casino operations. All the business establishments are supposed to follow the strict protocols established by the government authorities. And regarding the customers, it is up to them to maintain social distancing and to follow preventive measures such as wearing of masks. The government has done all that can be done. Now it is up to the general population to play their part.
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As we all know the number of the spread of COVID-19 in America is still quite high, So it will happen several times the casino there closes
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with the government if a casino is found to have a new COVID-19 spread cluster, it must be temporarily closed. Indeed, this annoys gamblers
when playing gambling, and will definitely make casino income decrease. But in my opinion, the policies carried out by the American government
regarding casinos are very appropriate to prevent the spread of the virus.

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September 21, 2020, 07:46:41 AM
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As we all know the number of the spread of COVID-19 in America is still quite high, So it will happen several times the casino there closes
and reopens. So it is not surprising that there are casinos that have opened their business  three times.Because there must be an agreement
with the government if a casino is found to have a new COVID-19 spread cluster, it must be temporarily closed. Indeed, this annoys gamblers
when playing gambling, and will definitely make casino income decrease. But in my opinion, the policies carried out by the American government
regarding casinos are very appropriate to prevent the spread of the virus.

The corona pandemic is still new for all of us, the testing and implications of COVID-19 are ongoing. There is still no vaccine available for the general population. We will need to more flexible for the future. It's very likely corona is going to be around in 2021. I think it's a good idea to try and open the casinos, a lot of lifes depend on them and we can't keep them closed forever. Closing the casinos again is just a sign that corona numbers are being closely monitored and the government is reacting fast to rising infections again.
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Indeed, this annoys gamblers
when playing gambling, and will definitely makome decrease. But in my opinion, the policies carried out by the American governme casino incent
regarding casinos are very appropriate to prevent the spread of the virus.

Why does they need to be annoyed? For just a reason that they can't go on casinos or there are implemented tight policies because of Corona Virus pandemic? It's fine to be anxious but those casinos have been closed or created a policy when playing on their casino because it's important to fight the spread of the virus. If they are really itching to play and gamble and they don't feel comfortable playing inside a moderated casino, I suggest that they should find an alternative. Play online casinos. If they don't want it, then don't. Take it or leave it.
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Indeed, this annoys gamblers
when playing gambling, and will definitely makome decrease. But in my opinion, the policies carried out by the American governme casino incent
regarding casinos are very appropriate to prevent the spread of the virus.

Why does they need to be annoyed? For just a reason that they can't go on casinos or there are implemented tight policies because of Corona Virus pandemic? It's fine to be anxious but those casinos have been closed or created a policy when playing on their casino because it's important to fight the spread of the virus. If they are really itching to play and gamble and they don't feel comfortable playing inside a moderated casino, I suggest that they should find an alternative. Play online casinos. If they don't want it, then don't. Take it or leave it.

Maybe the gambler annoyed because of the casino is reopening and close and reopen because of the corona. The casino can not do anything except following the local government's health protocols, especially if they want to continue their business. It is normal to see the casino will apply a strict rule to prevent the virus, and as a suggestion from their government, the casino needs to check every people who want to enter their places. The online casino can be an alternative for the gambler who wants to play gambling but too afraid to go to that casino.

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September 21, 2020, 12:46:42 PM
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Maybe the gambler annoyed because of the casino is reopening and close and reopen because of the corona. The casino can not do anything except following the local government's health protocols, especially if they want to continue their business. It is normal to see the casino will apply a strict rule to prevent the virus, and as a suggestion from their government, the casino needs to check every people who want to enter their places. The online casino can be an alternative for the gambler who wants to play gambling but too afraid to go to that casino.

The casino may have closed down after the staff got infected, or due to certain directive from the authorities. Anyway, this period is very tough for the businesses. Their revenues are all gone and still they need to take care of the rent and the utility bills. In fact I am quite surprised that a large portion of the small businesses are still holding on. I was expecting a surge of mass-bankruptcies.
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September 21, 2020, 12:47:48 PM
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we have preferences when playing and also depends on our Moods,but i think Online and physical gambling are both enjoyable
specially when times that we are so busy and has no time going to physical casinosso we will spend our time in Online where we can do anything
even when we are Busy. It will only take few minutes to conduct betting.

I agree that both (online and physical gambling) are enjoyable. But the level of enjoyment may be different. Here in India, there is only one state (Goa) where casinos are allowed to operate. People visit these casinos because they are considered "exotic" and not necessarily because they are compulsive gamblers. This "exotic" experience may be absent, if you rely on the online casinos. 
ohhh,that is why right?

in my place casino's are 20-30 mins away in all sides,meaning there are so many places where we can play Live casinos,while there are also local gambling places in which friends are gathering to gamble specific games available.

But indeed these are different enjoyment,it is always good that ambiance of casino is indeed not like in online where you are stock in 1 place while playing.









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September 21, 2020, 02:12:44 PM
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As we all know the number of the spread of COVID-19 in America is still quite high, So it will happen several times the casino there closes
and reopens. So it is not surprising that there are casinos that have opened their business  three times. Because there must be an agreement
with the government if a casino is found to have a new COVID-19 spread cluster, it must be temporarily closed. Indeed, this annoys gamblers
when playing gambling, and will definitely make casino income decrease. But in my opinion, the policies carried out by the American government
regarding casinos are very appropriate to prevent the spread of the virus.

They have to do what is needed to be done in order to lessen the chances of spreading the virus.

If they seen opened business start to shows another cases of this virus then closing it again is a must, it applies to any other
business and likewise, it's annoyed the gamblers but it's part of the agreement that the owners need to follows.
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If the casino is not using a strict health protocol, the new case will increase than before, and that will make the government difficult to handle the people. Every country uses that too because the government doesn't want to see the new case every day, but people still don't care about their health. We see that many people disobey the health protocol, and they always need to remind by the officials, and the officials always searching for people who don't obey the rule.

We need to follow the health protocols to prevent the virus infection, and that is what we need to do when we are in the public area and the crowd. We need to survive before the vaccine can be found.

If the supermarkets, saloons.etc are open, then it doesn't make sense to continue with the suspension of casino operations. All the business establishments are supposed to follow the strict protocols established by the government authorities. And regarding the customers, it is up to them to maintain social distancing and to follow preventive measures such as wearing of masks. The government has done all that can be done. Now it is up to the general population to play their part.

Perhaps the governments do not see much good in the Casinos considering the problems and low/bad value contents lots of them add to society. I think if you have good casinos that are filled with good games, encourage responsible betting and help make their customers better people, the governments will see little to no reason to keep them closed
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September 21, 2020, 08:33:49 PM
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we have preferences when playing and also depends on our Moods,but i think Online and physical gambling are both enjoyable
specially when times that we are so busy and has no time going to physical casinosso we will spend our time in Online where we can do anything
even when we are Busy. It will only take few minutes to conduct betting.

I agree that both (online and physical gambling) are enjoyable. But the level of enjoyment may be different. Here in India, there is only one state (Goa) where casinos are allowed to operate. People visit these casinos because they are considered "exotic" and not necessarily because they are compulsive gamblers. This "exotic" experience may be absent, if you rely on the online casinos. 
ohhh,that is why right?

in my place casino's are 20-30 mins away in all sides,meaning there are so many places where we can play Live casinos,while there are also local gambling places in which friends are gathering to gamble specific games available.

But indeed these are different enjoyment,it is always good that ambiance of casino is indeed not like in online where you are stock in 1 place while playing.
This is why there are really people which do play no matter how hard the situation we are in for now as long they would able to taste once again the ambiance on playing on a physical casino.

People are different when it comes to preference neither they do play online or offline.Its up to them but for now we do know the limitations which is understandable.

For opening casinos once again then its needed that they would follow the rules or else they would be on closure on the fourth time.

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For opening casinos once again then it's needed that they would follow the rules or else they would be on closure on the fourth time.

I know they will but the problem might be on their customers itself.

There is no tool that can detect virus-infected people instantly upon entry on the casino so there is a chance that lots of asymptomatic people will enter the scene.

I just hope that nothing worst will happen if ever that will happen. Fortunately, the mindset of people today now changed compare back then wherein we are overreacting about the virus. Today, people are positive that the virus will just come and go to our body with a proper and good medication even without the vaccine.

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If the supermarkets, saloons.etc are open, then it doesn't make sense to continue with the suspension of casino operations. All the business establishments are supposed to follow the strict protocols established by the government authorities. And regarding the customers, it is up to them to maintain social distancing and to follow preventive measures such as wearing of masks. The government has done all that can be done. Now it is up to the general population to play their part.

With the crowd in the casino, the casino owner needs to obey the protocols. If necessary, the casino owner must arrange the table, which has to distance between each player. In this new normal, the casino must really care about their place, their customer, and the protocols. Because of the new normal, the new case happens almost every day.

I don't get it with the people out there, why they seem to underestimate the virus's presence, and with the new normal, they think that the situations are under control, but it is not. I think the government should punish people who disobey the protocols, so they don't try again.
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September 22, 2020, 01:37:41 AM
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For opening casinos once again then it's needed that they would follow the rules or else they would be on closure on the fourth time.

I know they will but the problem might be on their customers itself.

There is no tool that can detect virus-infected people instantly upon entry on the casino so there is a chance that lots of asymptomatic people will enter the scene.
this is the hard fact about this virus because it cannot be distinguished with normal assessment that we usually do in normal cases.
But here even those healthiest people can be a carrier without being noticed.
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I just hope that nothing worst will happen if ever that will happen. Fortunately, the mindset of people today now changed compare back then wherein we are overreacting about the virus. Today, people are positive that the virus will just come and go to our body with a proper and good medication even without the vaccine.
This is the risk as when the casino was allowed by the government and people know about the opportunity they become infected yet they still comes inside?then it is their  risk and live that will be on the hole.
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Perhaps the governments do not see much good in the Casinos considering the problems and low/bad value contents lots of them add to society. I think if you have good casinos that are filled with good games, encourage responsible betting and help make their customers better people, the governments will see little to no reason to keep them closed

ROFLMAO. It is not the casino owners responsibility to make "their customers better citizens" It is the responsibility of the government. The casinos and their customers are paying a higher than average tax rate to the government, which is in turn used for various welfare activities. So they are doing their part and there is no need to blame what they do.
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Maybe the gambler annoyed because of the casino is reopening and close and reopen because of the corona. The casino can not do anything except following the local government's health protocols, especially if they want to continue their business. It is normal to see the casino will apply a strict rule to prevent the virus, and as a suggestion from their government, the casino needs to check every people who want to enter their places. The online casino can be an alternative for the gambler who wants to play gambling but too afraid to go to that casino.

The casino may have closed down after the staff got infected, or due to certain directive from the authorities. Anyway, this period is very tough for the businesses. Their revenues are all gone and still they need to take care of the rent and the utility bills. In fact I am quite surprised that a large portion of the small businesses are still holding on. I was expecting a surge of mass-bankruptcies.

If the casino staff got infected, there is no other way for the casino except to close down the place and check all of the casino staff to ensure the infection is not spread among the others.  That will happen to the other business, not just in the casino because that is the government's instruction to prevent many people from infection.

The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

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The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

Here in my state (Tripura, India) the government estimates that close to one thousand shops have closed down permanently, as they have gone bankrupt due to lack of business and lockdown restrictions. And I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. If the situation doesn't improve, then we can expect tens of thousands of small scale businesses closing down. Anyway, the casinos are mostly multi-billion USD businesses and they may be able to survive this tricky phase.
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The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

Here in my state (Tripura, India) the government estimates that close to one thousand shops have closed down permanently, as they have gone bankrupt due to lack of business and lockdown restrictions. And I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. If the situation doesn't improve, then we can expect tens of thousands of small scale businesses closing down. Anyway, the casinos are mostly multi-billion USD businesses and they may be able to survive this tricky phase.

I can not imagine if many more shops have closed down because of this lockdown or Covid-19. People will still suffer to survive, and maybe at that time, criminality will increase too since people need money to survive and buy the needs. In the rest of the months this year, I hope the situation will change, and the Covid-19 can be handle by the government, the shops can reopen their business, and people will not suffer again.

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September 22, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
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The small business can still hold and survive because the situations have forced that business, and they need to continue their business with whatever it needed.

Here in my state (Tripura, India) the government estimates that close to one thousand shops have closed down permanently, as they have gone bankrupt due to lack of business and lockdown restrictions. And I believe that this is just the tip of the iceberg. If the situation doesn't improve, then we can expect tens of thousands of small scale businesses closing down. Anyway, the casinos are mostly multi-billion USD businesses and they may be able to survive this tricky phase.

I can not imagine if many more shops have closed down because of this lockdown or Covid-19. People will still suffer to survive, and maybe at that time, criminality will increase too since people need money to survive and buy the needs. In the rest of the months this year, I hope the situation will change, and the Covid-19 can be handle by the government, the shops can reopen their business, and people will not suffer again.

Probably there are some businesses that needed to start open the businesses that produce foods etc. which is really necessary. with the exception of some restaurant.

But compared to other businesses like casino's the government is really a force to close every kind of business that usually have a lot of people inside, I think the government or the countries just didn't manage to lockdown the virus, in my opinion if the lockdown was perfectly executed they could easily opened businesses at some places which the virus is already cleared. Also at some point the government just doesn't want to risk it because it is going to affect the economy if a lot of businesses close.

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^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.
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September 22, 2020, 11:31:53 PM
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In the rest of the months this year, I hope the situation will change, and the Covid-19 can be handle by the government, the shops can reopen their business, and people will not suffer again.
I also expect the same thing as you. Really hope that Covid-19 will end sooner, and we will live freely again in the upcoming year. However, we are in a rather bad situation, the vaccine for Covid-19 is still not available, especially in my country. Now, I hear there is a new type of Covid-19 caused by its mutation. It is not good news for us, and seems that it still last longer. However, people need daily stuff, shops must be opened as it is related to basic human needs. But places like Casions and Restourants, it can be understandable if it needs to be closed.

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I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses.

It's not about the business alone. These casinos do have lots of employees and staffs which some become unemployed.

If people will just wait for Covid-19 to be disappeared completely before going back to business, especially in a big industry of gambling, that will make things more worst as there is no specific period wherein the virus will be totally gone.

As I mentioned before, thinking of people today is not the same as before during the early months of the outbreak. Our mind is now accepting that the virus will be on us for a long-time and now we have created a mindset that it's curable even without the vaccine. The virus can easily breach our body system if we will always think negatively.

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I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses.

It's not about the business alone. These casinos do have lots of employees and staffs which some become unemployed.

If people will just wait for Covid-19 to be disappeared completely before going back to business, especially in a big industry of gambling, that will make things more worst as there is no specific period wherein the virus will be totally gone.

As I mentioned before, thinking of people today is not the same as before during the early months of the outbreak. Our mind is now accepting that the virus will be on us for a long-time and now we have created a mindset that it's curable even without the vaccine. The virus can easily breach our body system if we will always think negatively.

I agree with your way of thinking, now reopening casinos is not a business alone. But regarding the fate of the employees who work
at the casino, they need income to buy their daily needs. If the casino doesn't open again and waits for the spread of the virus to stop
there will be new problems, because no one knows when a vaccine can be found, because a pandemic like this can last a long time.
So the right step is to reopen the casino, because we can't just wait until the vaccine is found. There is no other way but to face this virus,
even though the risk is quite large, because if we are not careful and run health protocols correctly, there will be an increase in the spread
of the corona virus.

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September 23, 2020, 01:40:55 AM
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I agree with your way of thinking, now reopening casinos is not a business alone. But regarding the fate of the employees who work
at the casino, they need income to buy their daily needs. If the casino doesn't open again and waits for the spread of the virus to stop
there will be new problems, because no one knows when a vaccine can be found, because a pandemic like this can last a long time.
So the right step is to reopen the casino, because we can't just wait until the vaccine is found. There is no other way but to face this virus,
even though the risk is quite large, because if we are not careful and run health protocols correctly, there will be an increase in the spread
of the corona virus.

All we can do now is risk to that.

But we don't need to say that we will be facing the virus since as long as we are still following the precautions, the protocol to be able to avoid the contamination of the virus, we could still take care of ourselves. The chance of increasing the cases is high with opening these kinds of places but it is on us on how we would be taking care of ourselves. With the people who's anti-mask, that would really be a problem.
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September 23, 2020, 04:33:11 AM
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But we don't need to say that we will be facing the virus since as long as we are still following the precautions, the protocol to be able to avoid the contamination of the virus, we could still take care of ourselves. The chance of increasing the cases is high with opening these kinds of places but it is on us on how we would be taking care of ourselves. With the people who's anti-mask, that would really be a problem.
You are right. The important thing is as long as we are still following the health protocols, we should not worry about the infection because we can take care of ourselves. We can still wait for the vaccine while also preventing the virus by wearing a mask, using social distancing, and everything necessary. W can be careful if we meet people who anti-mask because we are concern with our lives, and we don't want something bad happens to our family and us.

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You are right. The important thing is as long as we are still following the health protocols, we should not worry about the infection because we can take care of ourselves. We can still wait for the vaccine while also preventing the virus by wearing a mask, using social distancing, and everything necessary. W can be careful if we meet people who anti-mask because we are concern with our lives, and we don't want something bad happens to our family and us.

Here in India, the government came up with a law which makes it a criminal offense if you go out without a mask. And a lot of people have been fined for not wearing a mask. And despite all this, whenever I go out to do some shopping or to visit my friends, I can see whackos who roam around without wearing any mask or facial shield. What we can do with such people?
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Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.
I definitely agree with you all. This is also why the role of the important is very important during these uncertain times. The government should strictly implement protocols as for the public to strictly follow it. They should also come up with programs that are relevant in this new normal to cope up with the employment rate and provide jobs to those who were laid off their former jobs. The survival of both the public and the economy will be impacted upon the movements of the government.

The issue is that governments are also suffering greatly because of this crisis, the costs of the healthcare system have skyrocketed and at the same time the taxes they are getting are going down as businesses are closing and the ones that remained open did not generate as many profits as before, and when you take into account that the economy was not healthy to being with then this generates an scenario in which governments cannot generate enough jobs for those that lost it during this pandemic.
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September 23, 2020, 08:10:50 PM
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^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.

I think such decision depends from country to country according to epidemic situation and there is no universal receipe. I don't know what is current situation in Miami but despite concern for health life must go on.
In my country everything is opened, including casinos, with obligation to obey epidemic recommendations and rules. I don't know if there is any country in the world whose economy could survive another lock down.

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Make no mistake I agree with that however we cannot make the mistake of thinking that everything is OK, the pandemic is still with us and we need to do our part, however there are many people that simply do not want to listen and they are not taking precautions anymore and this is a problem, unlike other type of crises in which if a person that did not took precautions he is only affecting himself and his family in this particular case a person that does not protect himself also affects everyone else as if he gets sick then the chances that he spreads the virus to other people are very high.
I definitely agree with you all. This is also why the role of the important is very important during these uncertain times. The government should strictly implement protocols as for the public to strictly follow it. They should also come up with programs that are relevant in this new normal to cope up with the employment rate and provide jobs to those who were laid off their former jobs. The survival of both the public and the economy will be impacted upon the movements of the government.

The issue is that governments are also suffering greatly because of this crisis, the costs of the healthcare system have skyrocketed and at the same time the taxes they are getting are going down as businesses are closing and the ones that remained open did not generate as many profits as before, and when you take into account that the economy was not healthy to being with then this generates an scenario in which governments cannot generate enough jobs for those that lost it during this pandemic.
Lots of industries had really greatly affected with this pandemic and huge percentage on where businesses had closed its doors since its not already feasible for them to continue.The revenue and taxes isnt really similar
just like into those normal days that we had in the past thats why it will really give some hardship kind of situation when it comes on sustaining but at least even on the worst situation there are still some businesses do
really give out some contribution and its much better rather than having nothing at all.For establishments out there then they would need to follow the protocol and do embrace this new normal and their operation
will really be highly affected plus following some certain rules according on what we are facing now.


I think such decision depends from country to country according to epidemic situation and there is no universal receipe. I don't know what is current situation in Miami but despite concern for health life must go on.
In my country everything is opened, including casinos, with obligation to obey epidemic recommendations and rules. I don't know if there is any country in the world whose economy could survive another lock down.
There are countries which can really survive if they would be locked down but this one will be only to those countries or places which are rich or on 1st tiers which is understandable but it wont really
be lasting like forever since we know that economy must move and it wont really be that long lasting if there are no revenues flowing in no matter how rich the country is.
Life must indeed go on.

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September 24, 2020, 03:00:57 AM
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You are right. The important thing is as long as we are still following the health protocols, we should not worry about the infection because we can take care of ourselves. We can still wait for the vaccine while also preventing the virus by wearing a mask, using social distancing, and everything necessary. W can be careful if we meet people who anti-mask because we are concern with our lives, and we don't want something bad happens to our family and us.

Here in India, the government came up with a law which makes it a criminal offense if you go out without a mask. And a lot of people have been fined for not wearing a mask. And despite all this, whenever I go out to do some shopping or to visit my friends, I can see whackos who roam around without wearing any mask or facial shield. What we can do with such people?
Yes, I think that is happening in many countries. Fined can be applied if people disobey the rule, and they don't even think about the danger of the Covid-19. It is what we already saw in the public area, and if people still do not obey the rule, they can go to jail because of themselves. Maybe we can not do anything except let them like that and let the officials get them, and I think they will get that fined.

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Yes, I think that is happening in many countries. Fined can be applied if people disobey the rule, and they don't even think about the danger of the Covid-19. It is what we already saw in the public area, and if people still do not obey the rule, they can go to jail because of themselves. Maybe we can not do anything except let them like that and let the officials get them, and I think they will get that fined.

Fines and warnings won't work in third world nations, where people have a habit of breaking the rules. That's why the Philippines president came up with such strict policy, in which he warned that anyone who goes outside for non-essential purposes during the lockdown period would be shot. Obviously it attracted a lot of criticism, but in the end at least some of the lawbreakers decided to remain at home.
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Everybody hopes that the COVID will end, but in some places the situation with the pandemic is getting worse again, for example in Germany and England people are again beginning to prepare for distance work and training!
However, I would agree that many countries will simply not be able to get out of the economic crisis if they start to close again! That is why many institutions are trying to survive at any cost, including breaking bans!

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Everybody hopes that the COVID will end, but in some places the situation with the pandemic is getting worse again, for example in Germany and England people are again beginning to prepare for distance work and training!
Because people are Hardheaded and they are not applying what the government is telling them.
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However, I would agree that many countries will simply not be able to get out of the economic crisis if they start to close again! That is why many institutions are trying to survive at any cost, including breaking bans!
According to our president ,the vaccine will be available on the 1st quarter of 2021 meaning there might be a changes from what we are having now.


But this action from miami dade came from their economic losses so they need to decide even with risk just to save their people.









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Everybody hopes that the COVID will end, but in some places the situation with the pandemic is getting worse again, for example in Germany and England people are again beginning to prepare for distance work and training!
However, I would agree that many countries will simply not be able to get out of the economic crisis if they start to close again! That is why many institutions are trying to survive at any cost, including breaking bans!
If preparing for remote work I think it has been a little bit delayed, a big country like that should have prepared early on when the pandemic was first detected in the country, it should immediately isolate themselves and work from home so that it won't increase the spread of the virus. there is no other way to stay at home even though it will make economic conditions will collapse like this at least it can quickly end this malignant disease.

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Yes, I think that is happening in many countries. Fined can be applied if people disobey the rule, and they don't even think about the danger of the Covid-19. It is what we already saw in the public area, and if people still do not obey the rule, they can go to jail because of themselves. Maybe we can not do anything except let them like that and let the officials get them, and I think they will get that fined.

Fines and warnings won't work in third world nations, where people have a habit of breaking the rules. That's why the Philippines president came up with such strict policy, in which he warned that anyone who goes outside for non-essential purposes during the lockdown period would be shot. Obviously it attracted a lot of criticism, but in the end at least some of the lawbreakers decided to remain at home.
Even if people have a habit of breaking the rules, the officials should warn people and give fines to them who break the rules. No matter if the other officials do that because if people are not discipline, the new case will still happen every day. The situations do not look better, but even worst, so we need to be still careful.

If the governments want to do that, I think the government doesn't want to get more risk for the new case, and they are very seriously to warn people. We need to follow them because that is for our best.

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September 26, 2020, 11:24:36 PM
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With the current situation we are facing that the covid-19 pandemic is still on, better not to go anywhere even on any gambling establishments even if you miss playing on a physical casino because you must still always do consider your health more than anything else. Playing gambling on establishments can do wait up until the pandemic is over when it is safe and no more health threat unlike now. If casinos and restaurants in Miami Dade do really insist to open for the sake of their employees, may they at least implement strict health protocol to be able to assure that their customers are safe ensuring physical distancing. Lessen the capacity allowed in the casinos and restaurants and assure that they have sanitizing places to ensure safety and cleanliness of the place. But as much as possible, if you were into playing gambling, better to stay at home for now for the sake of your own safety.
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September 27, 2020, 05:58:47 AM
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With the current situation we are facing that the covid-19 pandemic is still on, better not to go anywhere even on any gambling establishments even if you miss playing on a physical casino because you must still always do consider your health more than anything else. Playing gambling on establishments can do wait up until the pandemic is over when it is safe and no more health threat unlike now. If casinos and restaurants in Miami Dade do really insist to open for the sake of their employees, may they at least implement strict health protocol to be able to assure that their customers are safe ensuring physical distancing. Lessen the capacity allowed in the casinos and restaurants and assure that they have sanitizing places to ensure safety and cleanliness of the place. But as much as possible, if you were into playing gambling, better to stay at home for now for the sake of your own safety.

It is the person's prerogative when it comes to decision of playing in actual casino so the final decision is always on the gambler. But he should prepare for the worst and not blame anyone. These days, if you want to gamble, online casinos are here to satisfy your cravings. Other casinos are slowly opening to recover their losses and provide jobs to its employees.
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^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.
i believe that Physical distancing is still at command so basically the costumer is safe not unless they will do the close counter then that is not the casino
to be concern with because they are all advised and told to keep the distance while inside the casino.
and for me?these days of ours is enough to act as normal because we have been in this dark for half year,lets live our life like what we had before the pandemic but with mask always and distancing .

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^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.
i believe that Physical distancing is still at command so basically the costumer is safe not unless they will do the close counter then that is not the casino
to be concern with because they are all advised and told to keep the distance while inside the casino.
and for me?these days of ours is enough to act as normal because we have been in this dark for half year,lets live our life like what we had before the pandemic but with mask always and distancing .

In my city in the subway all the people are without face masks! And in rush hour this huge number of people have no social distance... And if believe the statistics, COVID get 200-250 people per day!
That's why I don't think that at the opening of the casino the probability of getting COVID will be more than in the subway!

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September 27, 2020, 01:01:27 PM
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In my city in the subway all the people are without face masks! And in rush hour this huge number of people have no social distance... And if you believe the statistics, COVID get 200-250 people per day!
That's why I don't think that at the opening of the casino the probability of getting COVID will be more than in the subway!

Even here that is the case. Now it is known to everyone that the younger people are very unlikely to get sick from COVID 19. The mortality rate is less than 1 in 1000 for under-30 age group. That may be one of the reasons why some people are so careless about following the precautions. But even for younger people, it is not 100% safe to roam around like this. The fatality rate may be just 0.1%, but you never know when your luck runs out.
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In my city in the subway all the people are without face masks! And in rush hour this huge number of people have no social distance... And if you believe the statistics, COVID get 200-250 people per day!
That's why I don't think that at the opening of the casino the probability of getting COVID will be more than in the subway!

Even here that is the case. Now it is known to everyone that the younger people are very unlikely to get sick from COVID 19. The mortality rate is less than 1 in 1000 for under-30 age group. That may be one of the reasons why some people are so careless about following the precautions. But even for younger people, it is not 100% safe to roam around like this. The fatality rate may be just 0.1%, but you never know when your luck runs out.
the virus that is currently spreading around the world is not clearly visible to the naked eye, just keep running healthy protocols to keep you from spreading this virus, at least you have to be vigilant and don't let your body condition weaken because the virus will easily attack when conditions like this that.

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^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.

I think such decision depends from country to country according to epidemic situation and there is no universal receipe. I don't know what is current situation in Miami but despite concern for health life must go on.
In my country everything is opened, including casinos, with obligation to obey epidemic recommendations and rules. I don't know if there is any country in the world whose economy could survive another lock down.

They don't really have a choice, governments and the economy itself needed it. What we can really do is try to be safe and always follow the protocols. It can also provide jobs for others during these time. Well those people going out had the choice to go out. I try to understand it but what I will never tolerate are those people who doesn't follow the protocols, cause they are not only the ones affected with their irresponsible acts.

Yup, it varies from country to country and in my country, we have the longest lockdown so we really need to get right back up.

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Yup, it varies from country to country and in my country, we have the longest lockdown so we really need to get right back up.

Lockdown is only useful in slowing the spread of the virus. Now it is hardly of any use, because the virus has reached almost all the cities and the villages. The precautions need to be taken by the individuals and lockdown measures will be of limited use. I would rather ask the government to remove all the lockdown restrictions. Those who want to remain at home can continue to do so.
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In my city in the subway all the people are without face masks! And in rush hour this huge number of people have no social distance... And if you believe the statistics, COVID get 200-250 people per day!
That's why I don't think that at the opening of the casino the probability of getting COVID will be more than in the subway!

Even here that is the case. Now it is known to everyone that the younger people are very unlikely to get sick from COVID 19. The mortality rate is less than 1 in 1000 for under-30 age group. That may be one of the reasons why some people are so careless about following the precautions. But even for younger people, it is not 100% safe to roam around like this. The fatality rate may be just 0.1%, but you never know when your luck runs out.
You never know what happens to you even in some seconds, a lot of people die because of unexpected car accidents, something dropped from buildings and etc. Also every medication, even aspirin, ibuprofen has more than 0.1% of sever reaction. When you take care of your teeth with your dentist, there is still possibility that you may experience anaphylaxis during local anesthesia despite the fact that test didn't show any allergic reaction.

It's just that people have to take care of each other, viruses were with us everytime but personally I think we have to be more cautious during winter time. Otherwise people can't limit their life forever.

Subways and transports in overall are the number one threat in this case. If people don't protect recommendations there, then it has 0 idea to protect somewhere else. Personally I spent my summer in a beautiful city on the beach and cmon, no one, nowhere was wearing masks and what's curious? Corona virus infected statistics increased after 1 months. Isn't this curious? Personally I don't believe in these numbers, it's one of the easiest thing to fake them.

And about casinos... This business is something that really cares about things because of it's very high profitability and these places are ones who will seriously protect all guides. There is very strict control on face masks and etc in Evolution Gamings studios. If you just take off mask without a reason, they will left the job.

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September 27, 2020, 06:43:24 PM
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In my city in the subway all the people are without face masks! And in rush hour this huge number of people have no social distance... And if you believe the statistics, COVID get 200-250 people per day!
That's why I don't think that at the opening of the casino the probability of getting COVID will be more than in the subway!

Even here that is the case. Now it is known to everyone that the younger people are very unlikely to get sick from COVID 19. The mortality rate is less than 1 in 1000 for under-30 age group. That may be one of the reasons why some people are so careless about following the precautions. But even for younger people, it is not 100% safe to roam around like this. The fatality rate may be just 0.1%, but you never know when your luck runs out.
You never know what happens to you even in some seconds, a lot of people die because of unexpected car accidents, something dropped from buildings and etc. Also every medication, even aspirin, ibuprofen has more than 0.1% of sever reaction. When you take care of your teeth with your dentist, there is still possibility that you may experience anaphylaxis during local anesthesia despite the fact that test didn't show any allergic reaction.

It's just that people have to take care of each other, viruses were with us everytime but personally I think we have to be more cautious during winter time. Otherwise people can't limit their life forever.

Subways and transports in overall are the number one threat in this case. If people don't protect recommendations there, then it has 0 idea to protect somewhere else. Personally I spent my summer in a beautiful city on the beach and cmon, no one, nowhere was wearing masks and what's curious? Corona virus infected statistics increased after 1 months. Isn't this curious? Personally I don't believe in these numbers, it's one of the easiest thing to fake them.

And about casinos... This business is something that really cares about things because of it's very high profitability and these places are ones who will seriously protect all guides. There is very strict control on face masks and etc in Evolution Gamings studios. If you just take off mask without a reason, they will left the job.

I agree with you about possible false statistics, and I do not see any serious reasons to close or not open the casino now. However, if there is a new outbreak of epidemic in the world, the casino will have to suffer losses again, as any other business!
Although, personally, I think that this scenario is unlikely to happen again! It's a pity that now face masks have become something crazy all over the world!

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I agree with you about possible false statistics, and I do not see any serious reasons to close or not open the casino now. However, if there is a new outbreak of epidemic in the world, the casino will have to suffer losses again, as any other business!
Although, personally, I think that this scenario is unlikely to happen again! It's a pity that now face masks have become something crazy all over the world!

Everything would really suffer if numbers would tend to rise once again not only on gambling industry but on other industries as well.We don't actually have the option but to do the best

thing as we could to contain or not to spread the virus even more specially now the vaccine isn't yet available then we should follow these basic protocols.One problem I do saw

is that people's hard headedness is one of the common reason on why this problem do even gets more worst.Following simple health protocols doesn't really ask that
much but still failed to do so.

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Since it was already the third attempt of Miami Dade to operate their casinos and restaurants, may they at least be strict on implementing health protocols needed to ensure the safety of not just their customers but as well as their employees working to be able to have an income even at this time of pandemic. It is clearly understandable why they are persistent on opening their casinos and restaurants for the sake of their business and their workers but they must always keep in mind and take into consideration that we are still into pandemic so further precautionary measures must be observe so that the couple of months lockdown will not be put into nonsense because of the potential spread of virus once protocols are not followed properly.

As much as possible if there is no need or important errands outside, better stay indoors for the pandemic is a serious matter that up until now does not have any cure. If you do really insist going out to play gambling outside, may you please follow the health protocols not just for your own sake but for the sake of everybody that might potentially be infected because of your carelessness.



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September 27, 2020, 10:45:49 PM
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And here is the latest news about it:
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/restaurants/florida-enters-phase-three-of-reopening-plan-gov-ron-desantis-says-11698881

And it is noted that the government has permitted the business to operate again their business with some notes.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis announced earlier today that Florida has entered Phase Three of its "Safe. Smart. Step-by-Step. Plan" — effectively allowing bars to reopen and restaurants to return to full capacity. DeSantis announced the news at the Birchwood Hotel in St. Petersburg, explaining that "every business has the right to operate."

I am sure that there is much consideration about this, this is still risky moreover this pandemic is really crazy, cannot be stopped so easily. However, they ensure that they must also obey the health protocol. Although it may be very difficult to be implemented in al businesses. It will probably only include the basic health protocol.

So, if you are going to this area, better to follow the rules and be safe, never forget that the virus is still around you and probably in yourself. That is why being careful is a must in order to avoid the spreading of this virus.

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October 03, 2020, 02:10:13 PM
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^ No hate, but opening physical gambling to the public is something that I can't even tolerate on my mind. Look at the situation that we have right now. Losers from the Casino might not be able to accept what will possibly happen. It is also hard for the customer to be there because COVID19 is still active.
I know that they are just trying to survive their businesses. But it really is hard for that. Nevertheless, the adoption of the new normal will change a lot that people can go outside and go to casinos with proper protective gear.

I think such decision depends from country to country according to epidemic situation and there is no universal receipe. I don't know what is current situation in Miami but despite concern for health life must go on.
In my country everything is opened, including casinos, with obligation to obey epidemic recommendations and rules. I don't know if there is any country in the world whose economy could survive another lock down.
While I agree that the gambling industry is not really the most critical industry that we need to regularize except for those places like Las Vegas in which it is an important part of the economy at the same time things need to begin to go back to some kind of normality, after all the gambling industry is huge around the world and we need it so it begins to pay taxes again which is so important right now since many industries are having problems, but surprisingly the gambling industry is doing really well as people still want to gamble to distract themselves from the difficult conditions we are living.
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October 03, 2020, 02:38:52 PM
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There are many active gamblers who will go for that Miami Dade especially those active and addict to gambling, there are so many months have passed that they don't play a casino game because of the pandemic and as well all know, an active gambler will choose to play on physical gambling rather than playing online gambling because of having a different feeling of ambiance. I am hoping that the opening of this casino won't make the pandemic spread, they should still observe the social distancing and strictly implement of wearing a face mask. They should also provide alcohol or any disinfectant in the casino.

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Some of the countries are now having the flattening of the curve on the cases of the COVID-19 and by that, there are many businesses that are slowly opening to recover again from failure because of being closed because of the pandemic. The opening of the casino is such a good idea because there are many gamblers who are really waiting for it for so long time, I am hoping that the casino is well-prepared for protecting their customers from spreading the virus. There wouldn't be a problem if they will have an assistant inside the casino that will observe the social distancing of every gambler.
I guess this time they are going to implement the health protocol correctly, the economy should not stop because people need to work make a living and provide services and products, the health experts have already set up everything that is needed to control the infection, and they just need to follow this strictly, this is the new normal now and we need to learn how to adapt.
The economy suffered from the pandemic and by that, we should open some business to recover from failure. The casino should have experts from health. They should also have disinfectant areas in the casino.

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October 03, 2020, 03:07:08 PM
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Didn't even know they were ordered to close down. So have I have seen people going back to do their regular activities like nothing really is going on. At least over here, all the lockdowns has been lifted and some areas just have to follow strict rules. Though we have been hearing every now and then that "strict" lockdowns will be imposed soon if everyone keeps on moving freely without maintaining social distancing and other rules. But so far people keeps on breaking those rules and no one cares.
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Lastly I hope that cases don’t rise again because the last time they had opened there was a huge surge in cases, and they had to lock down after a while.
The place is still going to spread the virus and we will still see a sudden surge in that area. After all, nothing has changed since they aren't taking any extra precaution.

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October 03, 2020, 03:32:24 PM
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There are many active gamblers who will go for that Miami Dade especially those active and addict to gambling, there are so many months have passed that they don't play a casino game because of the pandemic and as well all know, an active gambler will choose to play on physical gambling rather than playing online gambling because of having a different feeling of ambiance. I am hoping that the opening of this casino won't make the pandemic spread, they should still observe the social distancing and strictly implement of wearing a face mask. They should also provide alcohol or any disinfectant in the casino.

For long those who had just being waiting for this moment when the casinos will get open so that they will start gambling there will be lots of such people who would have gone to the casinos on reopening and played there. It would have been very difficult for those who do not like or cannot do online gambling and only prefer casinos to gamble.

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October 04, 2020, 01:24:07 PM
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For long those who had just being waiting for this moment when the casinos will get open so that they will start gambling there will be lots of such people who would have gone to the casinos on reopening and played there. It would have been very difficult for those who do not like or cannot do online gambling and only prefer casinos to gamble.

Those who prefer physical casinos don't prefer online gambling sites. This point was stated manytimes before in this thread. So you can't ask those gamblers to remain at home, by offering them online services. And you also need to think about the duration. It has been more than 6 months. Even the most health-conscious gamblers may be losing their patience.
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For long those who had just being waiting for this moment when the casinos will get open so that they will start gambling there will be lots of such people who would have gone to the casinos on reopening and played there. It would have been very difficult for those who do not like or cannot do online gambling and only prefer casinos to gamble.

Those who prefer physical casinos don't prefer online gambling sites. This point was stated manytimes before in this thread. So you can't ask those gamblers to remain at home, by offering them online services. And you also need to think about the duration. It has been more than 6 months. Even the most health-conscious gamblers may be losing their patience.
Agreed, while gambling from the comfort of your own home without a doubt has its charms at the same time it is completely different than gambling in a physical casinos, since many people like the ability to socialize with other people or the environment they find there, so for those people it is not only about gambling it is about the experience they get and this cannot be replicated in an online casino, however if the casinos need to be closed for the pandemic then we have no other option but to agree and be understanding of the situation we are in.
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