What can I do to remove a neg tag?

[Little Mouse]

I have been tagged by this user ChiNgadOr- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1176794
Reason- None, I have accused him associated with a scam which I have withdraw later. This is the feedback text-

this guy got some kind of brain damage or is blind, so he didnt read all what was explained already. He tries to harm my reputation, shooting the messenger. Company is responsible for payment, i am just translator and organized rest of translators. Cryptoji was reliable so far, and still got time until december to pay.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186739.0;all

I have tried to reach him through bitcointalk pm and telegram but got no response at all. What can I do to get out of this tag? I know this is untrusted feedback but it doesn't look good to be honest.

[TheBeardedBaby]

The only one to remove it is the guy who left it.
Look at my feedback. Many foolish bullshit reasons left there, even from people who were banned after, but those stay there, and I don't really care about them. Don't pay attention to irrelevant feedback.

[mole0815]

You can only have the feedback removed by the user who left it.
Basically you should not pay too much attention to such feedback.
theymos only intervenes if feedback is e.g. insulting. But even then only in an extreme case. So there is no way around the user who left it.

[Lucius]

Little Mouse, but this feedback is almost a year old (2019-09-23), why are you only reacting now? In addition, you have 5 more negative feedbacks, which in my opinion are much more dangerous in the sense that one of these users will one day become a DT - which is not the case for now.

As for the user in question here, I can only say that I met his character in the Economic board and that he is the last one you can hope to change or delete his feedback.

Well, I come back to you when BTC reach 1k or 2k  in the next months.. and I would be expecting your answer here.

If by any chance he answers you on PM, tell him I'm still waiting for him, although somehow I think I will never get that answer...

[The Cryptovator]

What can I do to get out of this tag?

You have already done what you need to do by creating this thread. ChiNgadOr should reply when he will notice this thread.

I believe you know better since seems you are quite active in the reputation section, who have left the feedback only he can consider either it should remove or exist. If you see my untrusted feedback then you will notice much feedback which is false. So, you shouldn't worry much about it, although looking not good but we can't do anything, counter feedback isn't appropriate for untrusted feedback. Just build your skin more thicker.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Little Mouse, but this feedback is almost a year old (2019-09-23), why are you only reacting now? In addition, you have 5 more negative feedbacks, which in my opinion are much more dangerous in the sense that one of these users will one day become a DT - which is not the case for now.

That's what I was wondering as well--and I swear I thought that user was inactive since I haven't seen any of his posts in a long time, but apparently not.  His last activity was yesterday, but the last post I could view on his profile was from April.  That could be because I have a lot of sections on ignore, but has ChiNdgadOr been posting on the forum lately?  He might not even see this thread.

What can I do to get out of this tag?

You have already done what you need to do by creating this thread. ChiNgadOr should reply when he will notice this thread.

Agree with the above if you've already tried to PM him.  And I suspect if you got no response from him that he's probably not willing to change/remove his feedback.  But like Lucius mentioned above, it's not DT feedback and you've got other negs that might turn into DT negs.  Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

[suchmoon]

Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

Both users seem to be bounty managers so maybe there is some sort of... uhm... competitive spirit.

[JeromeTash]

The feedback doesn't matter because the user in question is nowhere near DT as of now. It should be an issue once he's on DT. If he refuses to remove the feedback then other DT members would have to exclude him after their judgement of the feedback left by him. That's the best members can do to help you once ChiNgadOr gets to be part of DT but until then, there's nothing to worry about.

Here is his latest custom trust list from Loyce.club

Trust list for: ChiNgadOr (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (152 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-08-29_Sat_05.07h)
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ChiNgadOr Trusts these users' judgement:
1. Hellmouth42 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

ChiNgadOr Distrusts these users' judgement:
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ChiNgadOr's judgement is Trusted by:
1. rig4hodlers (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (39 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Hellmouth42 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~ChiNgadOr's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. TMAN (Trust: +27 / =0 / -1) (1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. nutildah (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Csmiami (Trust: +1 / =2 / -0) (343 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Little Mouse (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (310 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

That's what I was wondering as well--and I swear I thought that user was inactive since I haven't seen any of his posts in a long time, but apparently not.  His last activity was yesterday, but the last post I could view on his profile was from April.  That could be because I have a lot of sections on ignore, but has ChiNdgadOr been posting on the forum lately?  He might not even see this thread.

He was also banned then unbanned at one point according to bpip.

[Pffrt]

This feedback is untrusted and I think you should not be so worried about it. Ask him to check this thread and respond here. I think he will remove it since the feedback isn't properly used here.

Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

It was started by Little Mouse as he said in the OP that once Little Mouse accused him of being scammer.

[NeuroticFish]

Reason- None, I have accused him associated with a scam

Some users do retaliatory negative feedback, just because they can. And unless he removes it... you'll have it there.
But don't worry and clearly get used to this. Since it's not a DT, his feedback means almost nothing and the chance you'll meet in the future other individuals of this kind is not too small.
Just look at my feedback, the (im)famous game-protect was among the ones painted it. He did this to a very big number of users and.. we still have that. (And it's not the only example.)

[Rikafip]

I have tried to reach him through bitcointalk pm and telegram but got no response at all. What can I do to get out of this tag? I know this is untrusted feedback but it doesn't look good to be honest.

I find it interesting that  RapTarX tagged for exactly the same reason you complain here, user not responding to  your private messages. (maybe this is good opportunity to sort that out ).

As others pointed out, you shouldn't be too worried about ChiNgadOr negative feedback as he is unlikely to reach DT status anytime soon, but if you are worried about negative feedbacks in general, maybe you should try to sort out those that have much higher chances of being visible to others, as you have few of those as well.

[TalkStar]

I have tried to reach him through bitcointalk pm and telegram but got no response at all. What can I do to get out of this tag? I know this is untrusted feedback but it doesn't look good to be honest.

If he isn't interested to discuss with you about the negative feedback then i will suggest you not to waste your time on this matter. Different people have different thinking and we can't change their decision by giving force from our end. Its better to let him consider about the feedback and maybe he can change his mind in the upcoming days. Yeah you are right that it doesn't look good to see negative trusts but we have no power to remove them either its valid or not.

"ChiNgadOr" was active yesterday and maybe he will make response here after seeing your thread.

[Coyster]

That's what I was wondering as well--and I swear I thought that user was inactive since I haven't seen any of his posts in a long time, but apparently not.  His last activity was yesterday, but the last post I could view on his profile was from April.  That could be because I have a lot of sections on ignore, but has ChiNdgadOr been posting on the forum lately? He might not even see this thread.

@The Pharmacist, to answer your question, yes, ChiNdgadOr has been active and posting on the forum, do you have the Altcoin section on ignore? That's where he makes most of his posts, so if you do have it on ignore, that's why you can't see any of his posts lately. His last post was yesterday, August 31.

But since ChiNdgadOr rarely posts outside of the altcoin(Ann) section, you're right that he may not see this thread, Little Mouse can PM him to get him to post here, but since he's ignored his pm's already, he'll likely act the same way, maybe some other user.

[Little Mouse]

Little Mouse, but this feedback is almost a year old (2019-09-23), why are you only reacting now?

I have been trying to contact him for the last year, have tried PM here, reached through telegram but he never replied. I have waited such long to get a communication with him. Since I did not get any, I have created this thread.
I would appreciate any reputed member like suchmoon, LoyceV to come forward and help me removing the tag.

Is there anything special about ChiNgadOr's feedback that's bothering you?

Both users seem to be bounty managers so maybe there is some sort of... uhm... competitive spirit.

Nothing like that. Some people including me was hired by a translation agency and ChiNgadOr was the who made communication with us most of the times, there was another guy too who was CEO of their translation agency. ChiNgadOr was introduced as CFO or whatever. Then they scammed every translator other than me as I had escrowed the payment with Darkstar_. That's why I accused ChiNgadOr to be associated with the agency and red tag him but later realized that he was not involved directly although he may lie. I removed the tag but the tag I got from him was not removed.

I find it interesting that  RapTarX tagged for exactly the same reason you complain here, user not responding to  your private messages. (maybe this is good opportunity to sort that out ).

Both are different case although I still feel guilty for this.

[Lucius]

I have been trying to contact him for the last year, have tried PM here, reached through telegram but he never replied. I have waited such long to get a communication with him. Since I did not get any, I have created this thread.
I would appreciate any reputed member like suchmoon, LoyceV to come forward and help me removing the tag.

Not replying to your message or blocking you is a very clear message that is sent to you in this way - silence is in some cases a very clear message, quite clear for those who want to understand it. As other members have already written to you, only the person who left you feedback can remove or change it.

I think you are going to a dead end with the idea that one of the above members can help you in a particular case - only in case he is DT and his feedback is not appropriate/correct you could expect counter feedback or exclusion of that member from DT.

[Little Mouse]

I think you are going to a dead end with the idea that one of the above members can help you in a particular case - only in case he is DT and his feedback is not appropriate/correct you could expect counter feedback or exclusion of that member from DT.

I want anyone of them to PM ChiNgadOr and ask them to reply here and share why he thinks my action toward that case was not appropriate. I think he will not neglect to respond from such reputed user.

[examplens]

@Little Mouse
I am not sure, why do you insist to remove negative trust from users like ChiNgadOr, which is not DT member, as far as I can see from his trust list, it probably won't be soon DT1 or Dt2. only he can see neg feedback on your profile. For example, I see only Lauda's neg tag there.
it is the oldest neg feedback on your profile page, I see there are few more negative feedbacks. which is different if ChiNgadOr even deleted it?
what will you do with the other negative tags? (I did not enter into the significance and truth of the accusations)

I would appreciate any reputed member like suchmoon, LoyceV to come forward and help me removing the tag.

it will not happen, trust rating can be changed only by the user who left it, besides, this is not so important tag also they do not ruin your business here.

[Little Mouse]

Listen, I would try to remove each of the negative tag as I don't deserve any of them. ChiNgadOr is not a shit spammer, so I believe he will remove the tag eventually. He should have understood. I care because these feedbacks does not look good at all.
This does not mean I'm dying for removing the feedbacks. For example, I have been offered by anonym1337x that if I remove his tag, he will also remove mine but I do not care only because my feedback toward him can not be removed as it is a valid feedback.
I have had nothing with ChiNgadOr, I have accused him of being scammer and later withdrawn my accusation. So, he should remove the tag and that's why I'm here. Other tags may be removed eventually once I get enough time to talk with them.

also they do not ruin your business here.

They do man. Otherwise, I would manage one more signature campaign which now been managed by someone else. Owner could not trust me with fund as they saw some negative feedback in my profile and they were not agreed to spend money with escrow.

[Upgrade00]

They do man. Otherwise, I would manage one more signature campaign which now been managed by someone else. Owner could not trust me with fund as they saw some negative feedback in my profile and they were not agreed to spend money with escrow.

@examplens was probably referring to that particular tag for which this thread was started, as has been pointed out already here, you have multiple negetive feedbacks from other members who are much closer to DT and their feedback has more controversial content than the one left by ChiNgadOr.

[Harlot]

It will depend on the person who left that feedback with since the trust system is unmoderated even red tags can't be remove by mods. Try to resolve the issue with the user and see if he change his mind but usually tags like this where you pissed a user off is something that they won't remove since they'll be even more happy that you are noticing their untrusted feedback towards you.