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September 05, 2020, 07:04:24 AM
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What a struggle it has been to get my last 20 merits to get to my 2,000.

First of all, big congrats!

I feel you, but we both know that there are better and "slower" periods on merits. Last month seemed ..."slower". Maybe because of holidays too? I don't know.
But a lot of people will still merit a lower rank easier than a legendary because those need the merit points more. And it's OK.

I think that the only conclusion is: we still need much more merit sources.

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September 05, 2020, 10:13:17 AM
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I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).
Even lower ranks feel good when receiving merits like me when I got my merits few days ago. It may be true merits is not much use for legendary rank but merit doesn't have a rank barrier where you should only send merit to hero member rank and lower but it's not. Merit is for everyone who created a thread that is helpful and as what FIFA worldcup mentioned about merit within 120 days requirement  to join signature campaigns so legendary rank are no exception.

It is always good to get merits because it shows the love for the people. The more merits a user gets it means more people like his posts. I am happy for him to reach 2000 merits which is a great achievement.

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September 05, 2020, 12:25:03 PM
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO).  Then again, I've said this before:  the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate.  In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.

Maybe another rank is not a bad idea, it's just a question of what conditions to set for it - how much activity and how many merits would be appropriate for such rank? There is no doubt that the number of Legendary members (active ones) will decline over time for a variety of reasons - and it is also evident that only exceptional individuals can collect 1000 merits within a reasonable time.

If we take a look at LoyceV's statistics on active users by rank, there have been 477 active users with Legendary rank in the last 7 days, which may not be a completely objective fact if we take into account that the holidays are still going on, and that some members are taking a break from the forum.

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September 05, 2020, 01:36:34 PM
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I'm not quite sure what you're saying as a whole here, but I really wish Theymos would add a rank above Legendary (or restructure the ranking system entirely--a complete overhaul wouldn't be too bad IMO).  Then again, I've said this before:  the number of Legendary members is probably going to shrink over time, as older ones drop out via attrition and new ones are made at an extremely low rate.  In a few years, you might not see a lot of Legendaries posting on bitcointalk, but we'll see.

Maybe another rank is not a bad idea, it's just a question of what conditions to set for it - how much activity and how many merits would be appropriate for such rank? There is no doubt that the number of Legendary members (active ones) will decline over time for a variety of reasons - and it is also evident that only exceptional individuals can collect 1000 merits within a reasonable time.

If we take a look at LoyceV's statistics on active users by rank, there have been 477 active users with Legendary rank in the last 7 days, which may not be a completely objective fact if we take into account that the holidays are still going on, and that some members are taking a break from the forum.

I would deny the idea of another rank above Legendary. Currently it is very difficult to rank up if you start fresh from Newbie and getting to legendary is like a dream. Any rank above it will not make much sense in the current scenario.
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September 05, 2020, 02:09:37 PM
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If we take a look at LoyceV's statistics on active users by rank, there have been 477 active users with Legendary rank in the last 7 days, which may not be a completely objective fact if we take into account that the holidays are still going on, and that some members are taking a break from the forum.
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With the average postcount from Legendary members and limited Legendary members with extremely high earned merits as well as median rate of merit earning speed, a new rank is not needed in the near future.

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September 05, 2020, 04:52:56 PM
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First of all, congrats to Jet Cash for reaching that  big milestone!

I see that conversation slowly slipped towards new rank suggestion, that I honestly think it's not needed (it's true though that I'm just a Sr Member so my pov might be different from the veteran members). I really don't understand why would people want some extra carrot on a stick, instead enjoying their well deserved Legendary rank. Imho, that wouldn't make them any more recognisable or respected on the forum, and all it could cause is make new members to rank up at even slower pace than now, as merit distribution would be somewhat different if all active legendaries suddenly have an extra rank to aim for.

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September 05, 2020, 05:37:53 PM
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You have done so well to attain such merit, I salute those whose merit is above their activities. Everyone at legendary and hero stage deserves an accolades. You love updates on health just as you said , and that's where you have made more impact probably because that's more of your area of higher interest it is easier to generate topics from there but you planned to spread to many other topics which is a good Idea and it will help you study wider.
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September 05, 2020, 06:57:13 PM
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I didn't even know you were posting specifically about health stuff. But anyway, if you like posting about health stuff and if you actually enjoy researching about it, then why stop? We don't really need merits as Legendary members anyway(though I'll admit receiving merits makes me feel good a bit).

Well he don't need merits to rank up because he is already at the highest possible rank and secondly he is not in any signature campaign which requires certain number of merits in the last 120 days.
I guess this is the reason why some members don't bother themselves to merit a legendary member in the forum coz they think that it's all about the ranking system. It is overwhelming for a legendary member to receive a merit coz that means that they are delivering good stuff in here.

An ohh Jet Cash, I think there were a few people who find you health posts convenient for themselves, don't stress yourself too much!

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September 06, 2020, 09:53:56 AM
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With the average postcount from Legendary members and limited Legendary members with extremely high earned merits as well as median rate of merit earning speed, a new rank is not needed in the near future.

Everything you wrote makes sense, but I don't see anything wrong for the forum having another rank higher than Legendary. That would certainly be an additional motive for those who cannot progress beyond the current rank at the moment. From a merit distribution perspective, a new rank might have the effect that lower ranks might get less merit - but a good post should always get merit, regardless of rank.

I agree with Jet Cash that the path to 2000 merits is not easy even for me personally - and that it will take some time for that to happen - although I don't bother with that, in the end the numbers are just numbers.

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September 06, 2020, 10:02:41 AM
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Everything you wrote makes sense, but I don't see anything wrong for the forum having another rank higher than Legendary. That would certainly be an additional motive for those who cannot progress beyond the current rank at the moment. From a merit distribution perspective, a new rank might have the effect that lower ranks might get less merit - but a good post should always get merit, regardless of rank.
No harm if a new rank appears. It is good because Legendaries have more motivation to post and somewhat increase post quality (from high to higher). Earning merit is a challenge at beginning but then it will be a joy.

As I said, even no new rank, I've still enjoyed my climbs on median, and interquartile range (for earned merits).

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Thanks for all the kind words, and apologies for being away yesterday. There were some issues involving my 95 year old friend ( she has just had a birthday), and I spent quite a bit of time at her house. She has a neighbour trying intimidate her, and apparently he had her pinned against the wall as he went incandescent, and he was expelling spittle with his venom. I'm not too keen on behaviour like that, so I went up there to give her a bit of support and protection. It's pretty disgusting, as she is a lovely lady, and just wants to live quietly with her cat, and support the wildlife in the woodland she owns. Rich people son't seem to like woodland to be left alone for the wild life, they feel it is a wasted asset, and they try to take it away from elderly people who don't want to live next to a concrete jungle, or an industrial site.

I'll revisit this thread,and comment on some of the ( good ) suggestions later. At the moment I'm researching the government protection laws  on tumuli in England.

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September 06, 2020, 11:59:25 AM
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Thanks for all the kind words, and apologies for being away yesterday. There were some issues involving my 95 year old friend ( she has just had a birthday), and I spent quite a bit of time at her house. She has a neighbour trying intimidate her, and apparently he had her pinned against the wall as he went incandescent, and he was expelling spittle with his venom. I'm not too keen on behaviour like that, so I went up there to give her a bit of support and protection. It's pretty disgusting, as she is a lovely lady, and just wants to live quietly with her cat, and support the wildlife in the woodland she owns. Rich people son't seem to like woodland to be left alone for the wild life, they feel it is a wasted asset, and they try to take it away from elderly people who don't want to live next to a concrete jungle, or an industrial site.

I'll revisit this thread,and comment on some of the ( good ) suggestions later. At the moment I'm researching the government protection laws  on tumuli in England.

That's messed up. How long has the harassment been going on?

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Stopping posting in subs you are interested in just because you don't earn merits, well that's kinda counter intuitive.

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September 07, 2020, 07:30:01 AM
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Well a very good morning to all my readers. Smiley
Here we are at the start of another week with the monkey faces trying toi stop themselves getting immunity, but I'm starting to repeat myself, so I need to switch to other topics. I find it interesting that reputable surveys are coming round to confirming many of my opinions. The latest ones are about the use of free or low cost vitamin "D", and commenting on the fact that research into itsd benefits has been suppressed in many reports.

Bitcoin is still slipping slightly, and it looks like a good chance for a bit of accumulating. Now that winter drawers on (sic), and breath comes in short pants, I'll try to spend a bit more time here, I'm so far behind with DeFi, and that looks like a really important new trend, and Bitcoin Talk is the ideal place to discuss it.

I don't believe that we need another new rank above legendary, but it would be handy if we could think of some way to verify an honest and reliable reputation. Default Trust goes part way towards this, but it seems more oriented towards good forum behaviour than honest trading. It probably can't be done though while account sales are allowed.

Merit seems to have lost its direction slightly, with large quantities of merit being awarded to the forum statisticians, and not so much being awarded to good discussions, and help for members with crypto difficulties. I'll see if I can do a bit to change this. I've got quite a bit on this week, so it may have to wait until next week. Later today, I have to get rid of a steel balcony for a friend. It's probably not worth the effort from a financial point of view, but I think I need the exercise, as I'm spending too much time sitting in cafes and driving.

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September 07, 2020, 08:21:47 AM
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statistics is very difficult subject during college and in secondary level so I guess statistician lover would likely to reward merit in them amaze by the skills and knowledge in statistics that was being presented and share. Master degree courses require also a statistician to back up the calculations attaining a certain objectives that will somehow reveal the possible problem/solution to a study.

However, there are few users here that usually give merits if it is worthy to be awarded in the likes of @CryptopreneurBrainboss, @DdmrDdmr and few other users. In fact, I was able to rank up to full member even though I am not a quality poster. The users merited me probably seeing me as trying hard to contribute posts that could be hepful to which I am really not and was only doing motivational posts to newbie or newcomers in this forum.

Anyway, I slightly agree with you that merits were visible on statistical reports. I somehow stare at it but could not make a reply to participate discussion of that matter maybe because I am not good in Math.

Reaching 2000 merits is no ordinary achievement here in the forum. 1000 merits is enough already to rank up to legendary and there is no rank more than the legendary rank. Btw,  congratulations on making it 2000 + merits it is not a usual thing to happen to a certain user here in the forum.
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September 07, 2020, 08:32:37 AM
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>..<

I gave you a few merits. Not really because of that post, but because of your correct use of quoting, and because the few posts of yours that I read seem to be undermerited. Pleased continue to support the forum.

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September 07, 2020, 08:48:40 AM
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What a struggle it has been to get my last 20 merits to get to my 2,000.

Congratulations! I do mostly disagree with the content of your posts (to the extent that for a long time I thought you had me on ignore), but I always appreciate the threads, and you raise a lot of interesting topics. 2,000 is impressive and gives the rest of us something to aspire to.

Anecdotally, yes, my experience is also that earned merit drops off once a higher rank is achieved. I was building merit quickly until I hit Hero, at which point it dropped dramatically to roughly 30 per month. I actually think this is a good thing - it suggests that merit-bestowers are focusing their attentions on worthy lower ranked users, those whose contributions have never been noticed or acknowledged.






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September 07, 2020, 09:24:17 AM
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I do mostly disagree with the content of your posts (to the extent that for a long time I thought you had me on ignore),

I don't put people on ignore just because they don't agree with me. I'm interested in so many different things, that I can't be right all of the time. Smiley I ignore people for the misuse of quoting, and for including useless images in non-social threads. That's because it slow down my scanning of the thread. A far rarer reason is when people like Franky resort to personal abuse, rather than logical debate. It shows that they don't have a valid argument, and it isn't worth reading their posts.

You don't learn from people agreeing with you. You learn when people submit an opposing or alternative viewpoint, or when they expand on your opinion.

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Save old Cars - my project to save old cars from scrapage schemes, and to reduce the sale of new cars.
My new Bitcoin transfer address is - bc1q9gtz8e40en6glgxwk4eujuau2fk5wxrprs6fys
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September 07, 2020, 09:27:21 AM
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I gave you a few merits. Not really because of that post, but because of your correct use of quoting, and because the few posts of yours that I read seem to be undermerited. Pleased continue to support the forum.
I was not expecting for this and thankful enough for it. The merits will goes to the posts too which I think that has quality or helpful. I never hoard merits and I spend it most of the time. My rewarding attitude is only to give one merit per post. The essense of rewarding merit is not through numbers but through an act how one make something very useful in the forum. Rewarding 1 merit vs. rewarding 2 or more merits has no difference and both was an act of rewarding something good or great.

If it happen that you just mistakenly rewarded me that number of merits then you can regret it because there is no option that merit could be taken back after rewarded. LOL. Just Kidding,

Anyway, I am thankful and surprise to think that you find my post undermerited. It is my gratitude to acknowledge the merits you rewarded. My English might be too bad but honestly I am trying. However, I have seen some improvement and that is one of the good thing that happen to me as a person and a user of this forum.
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September 07, 2020, 12:01:23 PM
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... I've just announced that I am going "Bitcoin only" in accepting payments for domain names in a domainers' forum, and I'll let you guys know how that goes....

Do you mind telling which one?
I have really found the domain market to have going to hell over the last few years for both buying and selling so I walked away and have just been sitting on a lot.
Used to spend time discussing marketing and promotions but since 2017/18 I really found it was a waste of time.

-Dave

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