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October 24, 2020, 01:47:08 PM
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I feel sooner this token will go to 2 satoshi, why? because I see so much people dump it on https://crex24.com/exchange/0xCASH-BTC
Tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tokens were sold in the blink of an eye and it happened after the second wave of bounty token distribution, which was several hours ago. It was obvious that many people gave up and sold their tokens quickly. Embarrassed
This is what happens when there's no use case to back the token before bounty distribution, maybe if there exchange was already launched or near launch in sequence with the bounty distribution, the effect of the hunters dumping the tokens  wouldn't have been this bad on the price of  p2p token, and I must add that hunters shouldnt be blamed if this project fails as a result of this dump cus the token already dumped really hard even before bounty distribution began.
the bounty not distributed yet   Angry what happen
As a participant and you should spend some minuters to take a look at the bounty group. There are so many members have already received their reward from the campaign. That means if you have qualified to get the reward and you can claim that by sending the fees to send your tokens that is still holding by the manager to your wallet.

Are you missing something or what? Where were you when inthesilence has announced that before?
i am not participating in this airdrop and bounty and hope that will finsh soon because i am losing with drop of coin
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October 24, 2020, 03:17:35 PM
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I feel sooner this token will go to 2 satoshi, why? because I see so much people dump it on https://crex24.com/exchange/0xCASH-BTC
Tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tokens were sold in the blink of an eye and it happened after the second wave of bounty token distribution, which was several hours ago. It was obvious that many people gave up and sold their tokens quickly. Embarrassed
This is what happens when there's no use case to back the token before bounty distribution, maybe if there exchange was already launched or near launch in sequence with the bounty distribution, the effect of the hunters dumping the tokens  wouldn't have been this bad on the price of  p2p token, and I must add that hunters shouldnt be blamed if this project fails as a result of this dump cus the token already dumped really hard even before bounty distribution began.
It's not about the usecase but the thing that can prevent the dump was the trading volume. I meant you must not also put the usecase as the indicator to determine whether coin can be dumped or not.
There are bunch of coins with the usecase but it was also getting dumped due to the low of liquidity.

I can take CRPT as an example even when the bullish trend is still happening and it's still getting stuck at the same place without any volatility.


Very sad, is the team not going to make any action about this? Has the team given up? maybe i will see coins that have no price back in my wallet. Hope what we will look forward to again.

As far as I know if the team has nothing to do with the dump that's caused by the hunters but in this case it looks like the hunters are not a party who can be blamed. When the hunters have received their tokens and they can do whatever they wanna do to their tokens. The team has not given up and I'm also still actively watching the telegram group of this project too.

 

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October 24, 2020, 09:34:08 PM
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I feel sooner this token will go to 2 satoshi, why? because I see so much people dump it on https://crex24.com/exchange/0xCASH-BTC
Tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tokens were sold in the blink of an eye and it happened after the second wave of bounty token distribution, which was several hours ago. It was obvious that many people gave up and sold their tokens quickly. Embarrassed
This is what happens when there's no use case to back the token before bounty distribution, maybe if there exchange was already launched or near launch in sequence with the bounty distribution, the effect of the hunters dumping the tokens  wouldn't have been this bad on the price of  p2p token, and I must add that hunters shouldnt be blamed if this project fails as a result of this dump cus the token already dumped really hard even before bounty distribution began.
It's not about the usecase but the thing that can prevent the dump was the trading volume. I meant you must not also put the usecase as the indicator to determine whether coin can be dumped or not.
There are bunch of coins with the usecase but it was also getting dumped due to the low of liquidity.

I can take CRPT as an example even when the bullish trend is still happening and it's still getting stuck at the same place without any volatility.


Very sad, is the team not going to make any action about this? Has the team given up? maybe i will see coins that have no price back in my wallet. Hope what we will look forward to again.

As far as I know if the team has nothing to do with the dump that's caused by the hunters but in this case it looks like the hunters are not a party who can be blamed. When the hunters have received their tokens and they can do whatever they wanna do to their tokens. The team has not given up and I'm also still actively watching the telegram group of this project too.



As far as I remember, the value of this token was already declining even before they started to distribute the first wave of bounty programs. So we really don't know how solid is this platform. We will see their potential once the dump from the hunters is over. If they can rise up again? Are they going to push thru their payment ecosystem? Or just another pnd token?
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Hello friends my name is Mat, I am p2p CEO and this is my obligatory visit to this forum for the reasons that I will explain below.

PART 1

-To facilitate the understanding of this little speech I will begin chronologically explaining why I am not the person in charge of this topic. I lost my phone in the taxi where I was traveling back home a few days after the first announcement of our project-

In those early days it was where our team was offered for professional marketing services through telegram by the member of this forum @inthesilence. And this is how the campaign and services of this individual began for our team after closing a deal where his monthly salary was agreed upon USD 2000.
The enthusiasm and motivation of this individual made him worthy of an offer from us to join the team permanently.
It was all our confidence that we even closed the deal by sending this person 12000000 P2P for distribution in different marketing campaigns that he was going to direct, PLEASE REMEMBER, it is necessary to understand point by point because this is where the truth of what is coming comes from moving to P2P.
@inthesilence KNEW AT ALL TIMES this was a budget for many promotions, NOT JUST FOR 2 AND 2 MONTHS OF WORK. Obviously our entire team is witness to this.
Until the last moment we were firmly convinced that this individual knew what he was doing and at no time did I think that he was going to distribute the 12 million once, I think this is easy for you to understand, please do not hesitate to do any kind of ask if they have any questions after they have finished reading.

-Meanwhile, everything seemed to be going well and our attention was fully focused on the first problems, the terrible cheat in the championship at crex24. Let's follow the chronological order to get to the first point of conflict translated into currency devaluation. CREX24 trading challenge where we deposit 1000000 P2P to cover the payments of 100 winners.-

Remember that the deal with crex was closed approximately 45 days before the end of the tournament. this value was calculated with p2p in 15 satoshi those pre-sale days. The arrival of investors caused the value of the coin to skyrocket and the prize was suddenly very, very tentative. So tentative was it that some traders started auto trades to reach prize positions. Quickly our team contacted CREX24 totally shocked and surprised, their answer was simply that they were not going to cancel the championship and that cheats were allowed. Very very surprising of course. but if it is too surprising we have the evidence of this conversation with partners@crex24.com registered in our mailbox. We did what was in our hand but we did not have the required support and the thing was degenerating into a constant dump on their own purchase orders. If you followed closely you could remember that the coins were selling much cheaper than in hotbit, proof that they were not more than allowed cheats.

Parallel and contemporaneously, another battlefield opens with HOTBIT, which after closing a deal to list P2P AT THE AGREED PRICE AND DATE.
In fact, it was announced by them. the P2P listing, but once the currency is listed they decide to close the market because apparently the P2P ticker is kinda doggy in china where this exchange is located. We were contacted by hotbit to communicate the temporary closure of the market and RAPIDLY, we were immersed in another problem without having any guilt, confusion, disorientation and discomfort among our community for what was happening.
The problems continue to grow against this exchange when we detect that the amount of coins sold was greater than the amount in hotbit, yes. We were invited to deposit coins for sale and also bitcoin / usd / eth for the support walls. How did we find out? We quickly wanted to know how it was possible that all our support, approx USD 5k, disappeared due to sales at half the market price. The OBVIOUS reason. WE DO NOT KNOW HOW BUT OUR OWN COINS WERE SOLD TO OURSELVES. as a result a NOT REAL p2p balance that was obviously impossible to withdraw. because the Chinese can fool everyone but they can't do magic on etherum blockchain.
This situation was immediately addressed by our entire team en mass ... and thank God we also have witnesses to this and that HOTBIT has banned all the members of our team in their telegram. Their listing manager ignored the matter because we were asking for the immediate delinting of hotbit and the refund of the money in the face of such scandal. of course there was no withdrawal of money until there were no more deposits.
The disappointment in our team and the frustration at this event is added to another previous scam committed against us, such as FOLGORY and trading contest crex24. but as expected of a strong team and a strong and viable idea. We continue ahead, I hope you understand that we still need exchanges with true support for the development of the project, and it is not to make dumps as the most twisted minds can think but rather to launch phase 2 of the project where the user needs a TXID as proof of their operation.


Approaching the day of release of the bounties, of course I ask for a final report with a result of 2 million p2p to be divided into parts of 1500 p2p for the winners, and I say 1500 because it was the first thing that was announced. and contrary to what this individual proclaimed to reduce by half, I had to remind him that men have a word and if they are men they must keep it, when we realized that he had announced a reduction of 50 Let us remember that the announcement is reduced and it was we who had to deny it. Ok then according to these accounts 1333.33333333 addresses had to be deposited by the one who has the capital, and that he agreed from the first moment to SEND ALL THE PRIZES IN A SINGLE DAY IN A SINGLE TRANSACTION THROUGH BULK SEND, AND SO HE UNDERTAKED, AS WE SEE THE RESULT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

To add data, I don't know what kind of campaign is running because we only have 100 users in discord. I highly doubt that this individual and his imaginary team have not even reviewed the claimers. I have to add that the links in the signature campaign, the signature links have been wrong most of the time. a totally useless campaign as we see that has only served to seriously compromise this project and enrich some bounty claimers who received their awards in a totally unfair way with a privileged pole position compared to others. At this point I have to say that there has been a complete breakdown of relations between this individual that we want to be publicly dissociated from this project, as you will see the damage has been immense. Knowing that he was sending bounties of a lot of money, he never considered a relevant detail to comment on, rather he focused on the controversy created with the reduction in 2 million telegram bounty.

This account has been pending upgrade to cooper member since the day it was opened, when I asked the one to send BTC to allow me to post, but no, the only thing he did was send us an ultimatum, requiring explanations of why a 20% devaluation in the price as insinuating that we had sold the coins.

THIS IS ALREADY RATHER AN INSANITY OF UNEXPECTED BEHAVIOR OF THIS PERSON ACTING ON THEIR OWN.

Bounties

1 / should have been distributed in a single moment and through a single transaction by this individual who received his payment of usd 1000 in advance of 2000 agreed to meet these expenses. Asking for money one by one to send the airdrop is clearly outrageous, and it is not what we expected from it once again.
2/12 million was the budget for 5 years. not for 5 weeks
3 / There were some requirements to charge how to register in our forum and discord. According to the results there are more than 95% collecting airdrops that they have not even won.
4 / We expected more follow-through and support that would not just disappear with the money at this way and doind what he is doing how he is doing, we are deeply ashamed.

I am waiting questions doubts etc to proceed explaining next steps, we are heavily damaged but not surrender. i will explain next post , sorry we need to meet under this circumstances, independent of this bad things that we are taking care now, the team is here, the project is here, and there are 12 million coins out here insane cheap. no we are not dumping, if you not believe just make your maths and check how much we spent and how much we can collect right nos to see something is wrong here and not us,.


This also have to congratulate Mr INTHESILENCE FOR A JOB WELLDONE, HE TOLD US TO TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY - LET THE COMMUNITY FOR ME MAT I CAN HANDLE- well i dont think so anyway.....


ps-panyone know link to get cooper please?
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October 25, 2020, 12:01:31 AM
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ps-panyone know link to get cooper please?

Look this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104.0
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October 25, 2020, 12:07:21 AM
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I feel sooner this token will go to 2 satoshi, why? because I see so much people dump it on https://crex24.com/exchange/0xCASH-BTC
Tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tokens were sold in the blink of an eye and it happened after the second wave of bounty token distribution, which was several hours ago. It was obvious that many people gave up and sold their tokens quickly. Embarrassed
This is what happens when there's no use case to back the token before bounty distribution, maybe if there exchange was already launched or near launch in sequence with the bounty distribution, the effect of the hunters dumping the tokens  wouldn't have been this bad on the price of  p2p token, and I must add that hunters shouldnt be blamed if this project fails as a result of this dump cus the token already dumped really hard even before bounty distribution began.
It's not about the usecase but the thing that can prevent the dump was the trading volume. I meant you must not also put the usecase as the indicator to determine whether coin can be dumped or not.
There are bunch of coins with the usecase but it was also getting dumped due to the low of liquidity.

I can take CRPT as an example even when the bullish trend is still happening and it's still getting stuck at the same place without any volatility.


Very sad, is the team not going to make any action about this? Has the team given up? maybe i will see coins that have no price back in my wallet. Hope what we will look forward to again.

As far as I know if the team has nothing to do with the dump that's caused by the hunters but in this case it looks like the hunters are not a party who can be blamed. When the hunters have received their tokens and they can do whatever they wanna do to their tokens. The team has not given up and I'm also still actively watching the telegram group of this project too.

 



As far as I know if the team has nothing to do with the dump that's caused by the hunters but in this case it looks like the hunters are not a party who can be blamed. When the hunters have received their tokens and they can do whatever they wanna do to their tokens. The team has not given up and I'm also still actively watching the telegram group of this project too.

no not given up, no chance, this is just a bump in the road, car is really damaged but engine new and full gas. Thanks for your comment dear.



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I feel sooner this token will go to 2 satoshi, why? because I see so much people dump it on https://crex24.com/exchange/0xCASH-BTC
Tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tokens were sold in the blink of an eye and it happened after the second wave of bounty token distribution, which was several hours ago. It was obvious that many people gave up and sold their tokens quickly. Embarrassed
This is what happens when there's no use case to back the token before bounty distribution, maybe if there exchange was already launched or near launch in sequence with the bounty distribution, the effect of the hunters dumping the tokens  wouldn't have been this bad on the price of  p2p token, and I must add that hunters shouldnt be blamed if this project fails as a result of this dump cus the token already dumped really hard even before bounty distribution began.
the bounty not distributed yet   Angry what happen
As a participant and you should spend some minuters to take a look at the bounty group. There are so many members have already received their reward from the campaign. That means if you have qualified to get the reward and you can claim that by sending the fees to send your tokens that is still holding by the manager to your wallet.

Are you missing something or what? Where were you when inthesilence has announced that before?
i am not participating in this airdrop and bounty and hope that will finsh soon because i am losing with drop of coin


no m no more airdrops at this way but yes holder incentives, many are asking for POS, we have our official campaign on this and we will add more support on it through crex24 new feature INVEST BOX soon [very soon] P2P team is with you, we do not need the premine indeed we burnt already 50 million, this is fully legit project and we are far away to leave it, dump the premine or kinda those things ya. WE HAVE SOLD WAY LESS MILLIONS @15 SAT IN PRESALE THAN THE 12.000.000  P2P SHARED PRICES. Current circulating supply has been distributed for free around 75%.
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Next steps for the team project?

There is a lot and i gave some tips already, please bare with this discussion part 1 like 24-48h to leave this closed and explain next steps. But there are many things, this has affected price as we know, but that it. you have my personal guarantee of keep like we was doing before as working hard and in a clear and clean atmosphere where we do not give a next step if there are problems behind. Next steps to finalize ongoing tasks that are huge enough....we are up to release our exchange base platform, update infos on coinmarketcap-gecko, etc to focus in listing also in metamask, mobile wallets, and a new IEO round because we have the coins/not dumped that is already clear tho. We are here LIVE and in a permanent way now to assists this community queries as needed for a SERIOUS project as ours.Just that, never came here to fight no one mostly to fight for P2P. i know or i can imagine how feel person that bought coins in a higher price than current one, i want to tell you , hold on, support the project, things will be back to normal soon, there 5 million left to share in bounties i guess, kindly ask to Mr. in the silence to send the coins ASAP, he do not need to ask us for money also . as he do to the traders, he will say that no but yes, he was paid to organised and distribute the coins, just few dollar need for a bulk transaction.





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happy to announce that we have new marketing and support partner for India.


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October 25, 2020, 01:12:44 PM
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I feel sooner this token will go to 2 satoshi, why? because I see so much people dump it on https://crex24.com/exchange/0xCASH-BTC
Tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of tokens were sold in the blink of an eye and it happened after the second wave of bounty token distribution, which was several hours ago. It was obvious that many people gave up and sold their tokens quickly. Embarrassed
This is what happens when there's no use case to back the token before bounty distribution, maybe if there exchange was already launched or near launch in sequence with the bounty distribution, the effect of the hunters dumping the tokens  wouldn't have been this bad on the price of  p2p token, and I must add that hunters shouldnt be blamed if this project fails as a result of this dump cus the token already dumped really hard even before bounty distribution began.
It's not about the usecase but the thing that can prevent the dump was the trading volume. I meant you must not also put the usecase as the indicator to determine whether coin can be dumped or not.
There are bunch of coins with the usecase but it was also getting dumped due to the low of liquidity.

I can take CRPT as an example even when the bullish trend is still happening and it's still getting stuck at the same place without any volatility.


Very sad, is the team not going to make any action about this? Has the team given up? maybe i will see coins that have no price back in my wallet. Hope what we will look forward to again.

As far as I know if the team has nothing to do with the dump that's caused by the hunters but in this case it looks like the hunters are not a party who can be blamed. When the hunters have received their tokens and they can do whatever they wanna do to their tokens. The team has not given up and I'm also still actively watching the telegram group of this project too.



As far as I remember, the value of this token was already declining even before they started to distribute the first wave of bounty programs. So we really don't know how solid is this platform. We will see their potential once the dump from the hunters is over. If they can rise up again? Are they going to push thru their payment ecosystem? Or just another pnd token?

All this talk does not see the end result of a definite revival of the token. But I also see the latest information in their telegram group to make better progress going forward. If you believe in this token then hold it.

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This is the message I sent to you in telegram, despite you did not give gas to distribute the tokens on October 18th.
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I don't have P2P tokens, the tokens I had are those you gave to me, I'm just following our agreement in late august, you said that the campaign should start and I started the campaign in September 7. 1 month was the agreed campaign duration, but you said you need me as your marketing partner, so I added the span of the campaign of 5 weeks and I also made a new campaign that you told me to do. You didn't even tell me where I should get the budget for that. This late september, you revised the whitepaper, you changed the allocations of the marketing from 25M to 12M. Our agreement is 12M from august to october, not from 2020 to 2025, You don't have any proper explanation for the allocation of the marketing from the revised whitepaper, besides, it's almost 1 week before the campaign ends then you later want to change? My announcements were scattered all over on the forum with links to other information, then you just recently read it by now? My team's report wad so long for 1 month and 2 weeks, then if you're angry and you think it's my fault, I won't continue my support to P2P, you must pay the remaining balance of $1k for managing the campaign , also, my $350 from my savings that I used to pay the designers and tasks that you told me to do without giving any budget and the gas fee for the whole campaign participants that advertised P2P 24/7 for 1 month and 1 week. If you think it's my fault for the price dump, try to think how we collected 3 to 4 BTC from the first IEO. Do you think that we can collect it from Crex if the campaign didn't spread that wide? I'm not happy with the current situation right now, but before I distributed the tokens, the tokens dropped for almost -20% daily from early october to october 15, take note that I distributed tokens on october 19 and there's 7M tokens left. All of the receivers of the token didn't dump. They will understand more about the price dump of the tokens if you're the one who will explain the current happening.


For your reputation, you deleted all our conversation from the beginning. Few people know here how you deal with them.
You have blocked persons from TG and delete your other TG to escape obligations and responsibilities, you left me to carry all this burden with them. Regarding on the Gas fee for the distribution, hunters pointing the accusations on me regarding on the bounty rewards because you didn’t provide any gas fee for that bounty allocation. Just to distribute their rewards, I did the best option just for them to claim their reward but causing them to pay the gas fee and that’s why they accused me for being a scam for this campaign.
You must show some proof that I’m the one who’s the reason behind the dump of the project. I can show you an evidence that before the distribution, someone already noticed the price dump.




And here is my side of the story from the beginning of our conversation which CONTRADICTS your statement today and you forgot to delete.  Smiley

This is from august 27th


As you can see, we agreed to 10M tokens were for Twitter, articles, youtube and signature.
2M tokens for twitter, telegram and discord, but they lost control of discord for unknown reason so I exclude it(Here is the new Discord that created after the airdrop https://discord.gg/mecDPt8)
10M tokens were for Twitter, articles, youtube and signature.
But this time, he want to change the allocations because the price of P2P rise from 15 sats to 60 sats.
Over 25M were allocated in the marketing. 12M is for this campaign.



Here is the part were we agreed on the 12M.

''FOR THIS CAMPAIGN''
4.88% of the total supply which means 12M, there is 13M more allocated for marketing which he deleted.
You read that right, not for 1 year or 2 years or 3 years to 5 years.  Smiley
This was from September 5

Wasnt that crystal clear?
This was from September 11

noticed that the allocations of the supply is not yet arrange?
On last week of September while writing the whitepaper, He forced me to change the allocation in the marketing down to 2M, He insist that the 12M must be used for 5 years?.
(Some members of this forum notice the changes of the rewards which I revert back to 12M.  Smiley)
that is 1 week before the ending of the campaign.
What will happen to the 10M? and the 2M for airdrops? We argue and told me that if I continue the bounty allocations and distributed, he will leave me with P2P.
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I had to remind him that men have a word and if they are men they must keep it
what happened to this philosophy?  Smiley


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closing a deal where his monthly salary was agreed upon USD 2000.
I only receive $1,000 for 2 months and some dusts from different addresses. I even use my $350 savings to cover the designers work and to pay the licensing of pictures. I also endured restless nights for weeks to accommodate the community and to pull this project off the roof, talking to exchanges and future partnerships. There are 6 more person you hired in other countries managing the telegram groups which you blocked and never get paid. The team that distributes P2P shirts were only given $50,  Smiley We and they are not after the payment now, I talked to them and they want you to be more transparent now.
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SEND ALL THE PRIZES IN A SINGLE DAY IN A SINGLE TRANSACTION THROUGH BULK SEND, AND SO HE UNDERTAKED, AS WE SEE THE RESULT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

You are truly right!
You sent me $5 of gas to transfer thousands of transactions. Smiley


P2P $25 Listing Campaign that do not have existing budget.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278476.msg55437966#msg55437966

And another Staking campaign which I dont know too where is the budget getting from.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274093.msg55390562#msg55390562


Now, the allocations are completed and the whitepaper is up, he ordered me to put 12M tokens for Marketing and it was the only address publicized.
The other allocations were in private and as an investor myself, I cannot let that happen.

Thank you for Congratulating me, you have been a good friend for a short period of time. Smiley
Now, I must take responsibility of sending this rewards to the participants which is their hard earned tokens,Without your support.

My point in my post is to clarify that I am doing what I should be doing. I am a campaign manager and I should be serving both the project and the advertisers. But this time, there is some misunderstanding from the project, which I cannot tolerate and endure.

I intend no harm in the project, but as our last conversation, he will no longer need me because the forum will be operational and people are using it for the updates of developments.
Here is their forum for you to discuss and tackle every part of the whitepaper : http://p2pcash.net/
Here is the whitepaper https://mega.nz/file/ll8VXQaS#fXE1RFiBO8ZPcGq8f0Fb7Yn5UAdkPYhNk7Z1Cw-GTGw

PS: Telegram is in 1 hour slow mode, which means you can only message there every hour. Every message regarding critics and updates about the campaign are being deleted by P2P CEO Mat.



I may take a rest for now because of this happening.

Thank you people for supporting me against this matter, I really appreciate it! Smiley




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This is the message I sent to you in telegram, despite you did not give gas to distribute the tokens on October 18th.
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I don't have P2P tokens, the tokens I had are those you gave to me, I'm just following our agreement in late august, you said that the campaign should start and I started the campaign in September 7. 1 month was the agreed campaign duration, but you said you need me as your marketing partner, so I added the span of the campaign of 5 weeks and I also made a new campaign that you told me to do. You didn't even tell me where I should get the budget for that. This late september, you revised the whitepaper, you changed the allocations of the marketing from 25M to 12M. Our agreement is 12M from august to october, not from 2020 to 2025, You don't have any proper explanation for the allocation of the marketing from the revised whitepaper, besides, it's almost 1 week before the campaign ends then you later want to change? My announcements were scattered all over on the forum with links to other information, then you just recently read it by now? My team's report wad so long for 1 month and 2 weeks, then if you're angry and you think it's my fault, I won't continue my support to P2P, you must pay the remaining balance of $1k for managing the campaign , also, my $350 from my savings that I used to pay the designers and tasks that you told me to do without giving any budget and the gas fee for the whole campaign participants that advertised P2P 24/7 for 1 month and 1 week. If you think it's my fault for the price dump, try to think how we collected 3 to 4 BTC from the first IEO. Do you think that we can collect it from Crex if the campaign didn't spread that wide? I'm not happy with the current situation right now, but before I distributed the tokens, the tokens dropped for almost -20% daily from early october to october 15, take note that I distributed tokens on october 19 and there's 7M tokens left. All of the receivers of the token didn't dump. They will understand more about the price dump of the tokens if you're the one who will explain the current happening.


For your reputation, you deleted all our conversation from the beginning. Few people know here how you deal with them.
You have blocked persons from TG and delete your other TG to escape obligations and responsibilities, you left me to carry all this burden with them. Regarding on the Gas fee for the distribution, hunters pointing the accusations on me regarding on the bounty rewards because you didn’t provide any gas fee for that bounty allocation. Just to distribute their rewards, I did the best option just for them to claim their reward but causing them to pay the gas fee and that’s why they accused me for being a scam for this campaign.
You must show some proof that I’m the one who’s the reason behind the dump of the project. I can show you an evidence that before the distribution, someone already noticed the price dump.
https://i.imgur.com/qDb8mWA.gif



And here is my side of the story from the beginning of our conversation which CONTRADICTS your statement today and you forgot to delete.  Smiley
https://i.imgur.com/Qznl99r.jpg
This is from august 27th
https://i.imgur.com/3PVdmzo.jpgg
https://i.imgur.com/HRIMcEc.jpg
As you can see, we agreed to 10M tokens were for Twitter, articles, youtube and signature.
2M tokens for twitter, telegram and discord, but they lost control of discord for unknown reason so I exclude it(Here is the new Discord that created after the airdrop https://discord.gg/mecDPt8)
10M tokens were for Twitter, articles, youtube and signature.
But this time, he want to change the allocations because the price of P2P rise from 15 sats to 60 sats.
Over 25M were allocated in the marketing. 12M is for this campaign.
https://i.imgur.com/mIiSGOS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZETTGJQ.jpg

Here is the part were we agreed on the 12M.
https://i.imgur.com/bp0oZ83.jpg
''FOR THIS CAMPAIGN''
4.88% of the total supply which means 12M, there is 13M more allocated for marketing which he deleted.
You read that right, not for 1 year or 2 years or 3 years to 5 years.  Smiley
This was from September 5
https://i.imgur.com/GDCuRHF.jpg
Wasnt that crystal clear?
This was from September 11

noticed that the allocations of the supply is not yet arrange?
On last week of September while writing the whitepaper, He forced me to change the allocation in the marketing down to 2M, He insist that the 12M must be used for 5 years?.
(Some members of this forum notice the changes of the rewards which I revert back to 12M.  Smiley)
that is 1 week before the ending of the campaign.
What will happen to the 10M? and the 2M for airdrops? We argue and told me that if I continue the bounty allocations and distributed, he will leave me with P2P.
Quote
I had to remind him that men have a word and if they are men they must keep it
what happened to this philosophy?  Smiley


Quote
closing a deal where his monthly salary was agreed upon USD 2000.
I only receive $1,000 for 2 months and some dusts from different addresses. I even use my $350 savings to cover the designers work and to pay the licensing of pictures. I also endured restless nights for weeks to accommodate the community and to pull this project off the roof, talking to exchanges and future partnerships. There are 6 more person you hired in other countries managing the telegram groups which you blocked and never get paid. The team that distributes P2P shirts were only given $50,  Smiley We and they are not after the payment now, I talked to them and they want you to be more transparent now.
Quote
SEND ALL THE PRIZES IN A SINGLE DAY IN A SINGLE TRANSACTION THROUGH BULK SEND, AND SO HE UNDERTAKED, AS WE SEE THE RESULT HAS BEEN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
https://i.imgur.com/2CqrlL7.jpg
You are truly right!
You sent me $5 of gas to transfer thousands of transactions. Smiley


P2P $25 Listing Campaign that do not have existing budget.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278476.msg55437966#msg55437966

And another Staking campaign which I dont know too where is the budget getting from.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274093.msg55390562#msg55390562


Now, the allocations are completed and the whitepaper is up, he ordered me to put 12M tokens for Marketing and it was the only address publicized.
The other allocations were in private and as an investor myself, I cannot let that happen.

Thank you for Congratulating me, you have been a good friend for a short period of time. Smiley
Now, I must take responsibility of sending this rewards to the participants which is their hard earned tokens,Without your support.

My point in my post is to clarify that I am doing what I should be doing. I am a campaign manager and I should be serving both the project and the advertisers. But this time, there is some misunderstanding from the project, which I cannot tolerate and endure.

I intend no harm in the project, but as our last conversation, he will no longer need me because the forum will be operational and people are using it for the updates of developments.
Here is their forum for you to discuss and tackle every part of the whitepaper : http://p2pcash.net/
Here is the whitepaper https://mega.nz/file/ll8VXQaS#fXE1RFiBO8ZPcGq8f0Fb7Yn5UAdkPYhNk7Z1Cw-GTGw

PS: Telegram is in 1 hour slow mode, which means you can only message there every hour. Every message regarding critics and updates about the campaign are being deleted by P2P CEO Mat.



I may take a rest for now because of this happening.

Thank you people for supporting me against this matter, I really appreciate it! Smiley






So this is the side of the Campaign Manager of the P2P's Bounty Program. I always thought that there's might misunderstanding regarding on the distribution of both Bounty and Airdrop campaign. Just like the other campaigns, they will send it you for free, but for this campaign, the campaign manager tells the hunters that if they want to have their stakes or reward, they must be the one who will provide the gas fee, that's why most of the hunters are being irate knowing that they will receive a bounty and they will provide the gas fee knowing the price is currently dumped. I hope this should be settled because we all know that CM InTheSilence is a trusted CM and P2P Cash has the potential after the release of the app for their project and following the roadmap.  Smiley
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October 25, 2020, 04:23:01 PM
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As far I know, @In the silence has done the best he can, because the promised bounty token distribution day has come, of course he has to do something with gas fee to start the distribution. I think that's why he chose to ask the bounty participants to send gas fee to him, everything was smooth, distribution started even he did it manually. He even said he would return the remaining unused gas back to the owner. I'm truly fine with that.
I also saw him say on telegram, to stop sending eth as gas fee, but I don't think people care, because hunters want to get their token immediately.
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yes so we keep on moving
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Sorry this is coming a bit late guys, it's because I had to travel to my hometown yesterday to attend my sister's wedding which will be holding today, the journey lasted 16 hours so it's a pretty long one.

So, to say my own story with p2p because of the current happenings between the bounty manager and Mr. Ceo to p2p.

P2p ceo, mat, once hired me to manage campaign in Nigeria cus according to him, Nigeria is one of the countries he planned to introduce p2p to (in a big way), this partnership between me and him only lasted for few hours, cus personally, am a no nonsense kind of person, I was to be working for him and promoting p2p in Nigeria, he said he will be paying me monthly but never said the amount, I didn't ask him though cus to me, the success of p2p was more important than what ever amount of monthly salary I was to be getting from the project, so we had an agreement and he introduced me to the other team members as a new team member, they all welcomed me and everything was fine, he gave me some task which I was already making enquiries on before the whole partnership went south  Grin.

After a second thought, I decided I can't just jump in and start promoting this project to my country men and women when I've not even seen the face of any of the team behind the project, i told mat I wanna have a private discussion with the rest of the team, he asked why, I told him that if I must work with him, I must know him at least, in picture, he already knew me, my pictures were everywhere, what if he scam and run away, my country will get me arrested for something I know nothing about, but mat refused this request and that was how my partnership with him was terminated.

I was still in the telegram group, but after sometime, I was banned, reason... They I was spreading FUD, no team member was online for close to a day, and price of p2p was dumping hard in the market, as an investor and always monitoring price, I got concerned and popped into their telegram group to ask where the team is, and why is the price dumping, hope they aren't the ones selling,.Huh... That was how I got kicked, I contacted mat to know why they kicked me, mat denied they didn't kick me and blocked me too.
I contacted Jay p2p and asked him why I got kicked, he said I was spreading FUD and mat got angry, and that is why I was kicked, even though I knew my comment (serious or not) didn't warrant I get kicked , I still humbled myself and apologize to them but they refused to add me back to the group, I spent over $780 to buy p2p which I left in the exchange where I bought them, but after this incident, I had to reconsider holding the tokens, I later sold everything at almost 70 percent loss and moved on, p2p tokens I have with me now are the ones I got from bounty...

My conclusion is, mat should learn to work peacefully with people, if he doesn't, he will continue to have issues with many people and partners, just as he already have issues with almost all the exchanges where p2p is listed.


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October 26, 2020, 09:15:08 AM
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As far I know, @In the silence has done the best he can, because the promised bounty token distribution day has come, of course he has to do something with gas fee to start the distribution. I think that's why he chose to ask the bounty participants to send gas fee to him, everything was smooth, distribution started even he did it manually. He even said he would return the remaining unused gas back to the owner. I'm truly fine with that.
I also saw him say on telegram, to stop sending eth as gas fee, but I don't think people care, because hunters want to get their token immediately.

Welp, if we're going to blame someone it is with P2P it selves due to lack of proper communication. they're scared of responsibilities when it comes to criticisms. they kept on silencing the public for their opinions. me myself got banned as well for asking if they know what is happening with the bounty campaign.

for me personally this is a fishy project.

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approx one week to release our platform. P2P trading vs USDT-ETH-BTC. Coin developers can already contact us in telegram-discord or business@p2pcash.net to request listing, Our exchange has 0 % trading fees , permanently, and other features that you will see in one week. This same software will be available for developers for their projects, ask us for a quote for our exchange development services.Thank you.
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October 26, 2020, 11:59:45 AM
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approx one week to release our platform. P2P trading vs USDT-ETH-BTC. Coin developers can already contact us in telegram-discord or business@p2pcash.net to request listing, Our exchange has 0 % trading fees , permanently, and other features that you will see in one week. This same software will be available for developers for their projects, ask us for a quote for our exchange development services.Thank you.
It's also a good idea if you can try to put the preview of your platform in there. People will know what you are doing and then at the same time you will be also getting the feedback from some members here.
I hope that the launch will be going very smooth and there will be no delay.
Will you also join in the defi development? I think that it will be much better if the p2p holders can also staking their coins on your platform.
That will be much easier for the holders.



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