Do we have to archive only our own pages or everything we see ?

[protrader786]

Hello,

I was reading on a few different boards of meta and lending. I found that everything is being archived every now and then so as to keep a track of raw and unmodified data.

I searched the forum for why and how it is done and found some useful guides made by :

• [project] LoyceV's Profile and Trust Archive site - Active and updated! by LoyceV
• [Guide] Best way to Archive Bitcointalk and other webpages by dkbit98

Now I have the complete idea of how to do it.

Many other members including me don't know a few things :

• Do we archive only our posts or everything that we post in or see or is there some criteria ?
• Is it done individually by all the users or is there someone who archives everything as a whole for the forum itself ?
• Do we only archive what seems to be useful to us or everything ?

I have never archived anything about me in the forum: posts, threads, replies, nothing at all. Only that, when I staked my address, someone else archived it for me.

Please give me a more insight on my questions. I don't think any new forum member knows about how and why it's done.

Thank you

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[o_e_l_e_o]

You don't need to archive anything at all.

Often people will archive other people's posts that they want to keep evidence of, in case the user in question deletes said post. This is mainly seen during scam or other accusations or investigations. Often people will also archive posts to so you can always see the original in case it is edited, for example if two users are agreeing terms, agreeing on a deal, arranging a bet, or something similar.

The only time I really archive a post is when I'm using it as a reference in trust feedback, so the other party (usually a scammer) cannot delete it and mean my trust reference leads to nothing.

Loyce automatically archives every unedited post made on the forum. You can find the list of all posts here: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/

[actmyname]

Often people will archive other people's posts that they want to keep evidence of, in case the user in question deletes said post. This is mainly seen during scam or other accusations or investigations. Often people will also archive posts to so you can always see the original in case it is edited, for example if two users are agreeing terms, agreeing on a deal, arranging a bet, or something similar.

Anything external to the site that is linked here should be archived, to preserve integrity and continuity. When in doubt, there's no harm in archiving something.

In fact, we could have used it a lot more back in the day (sec/modlog do not have full archives) for investigative work.

[-CryptoViking-]

I have never archived something personal yet, but I do archive outside sources when reporting scams, plagiarised WP's and such for scam accusation board. It is good to archive first though before posting, to ensure that if in the meantime if the content gets manipulated in any shape or form, we still have original.

[tranthidung]

Archive has its role as a proof of something in the past, initial post, or ownership like when you stake a bitcoin message with one address you own, then someone verify it and archive it for you.

Like this: Stake your bitcoin address here like what you staked and one user archived it for you.

Or when someone find something, mostly on suspicious things like scam projects, then archive for reports and shut them down. You can see many of such in Scam accusation board or sometime in Reputation board.

Or when you find a plagiarism, archive before report it like that Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed

[DdmrDdmr]

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Posts on the forum are editable, and thus, their content can be changed or the post deleted. Archiving posts are useful, as stated, as snapshot references to content, used in situations such as scam accusations and trust feedback. Sometimes people use as a reference the original post, and when you follow the reference link, you encounter that is has been deleted or edited. That’s why using an external site such as the WayBackMachine or Archive Today comes in handy. Besides post themselves, other information can be archives in this manner, such as forum statistics and such.

Besides the solutions to archive that are now provided by forum members (that store the posts automatically), you need to consider that these sites may not always be available, and using external sites such as the above referenced should be considered in addition.

[Smartvirus]

The only time I really archive a post is when I'm using it as a reference in trust feedback, so the other party (usually a scammer) cannot delete it and mean my trust reference leads to nothing.

Loyce automatically archives every unedited post made on the forum. You can find the list of all posts here: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/

This is really a cool info. I never thought of a deleted post or archived post having the possibility of being referenced. Naturally, I had the idea of archived posts to be posts that have been discussed to exhaustion and a need to clear the board hence, when done, it's gone and that's it.
Now I know it could be referenced through archiving is really cool but, when you've been scammed, of what use will it be again...?
I guess it all ends within the forum as per it's validity, I think and stands to be corrected if not.

[Stedsm]

This is really a cool info. I never thought of a deleted post or archived post having the possibility of being referenced. Naturally, I had the idea of archived posts to be posts that have been discussed to exhaustion and a need to clear the board hence, when done, it's gone and that's it.
Now I know it could be referenced through archiving is really cool but, when you've been scammed, of what use will it be again...?
I guess it all ends within the forum as per it's validity, I think and stands to be corrected if not.

Loyce did a great job by making all those deleted posts available on their site due to this archive feature. See, the major reason I see that we need an archive (or I'd say a shadow) of something is because sometimes, moderators delete some posts which are reported by us but those threads do possess some valuable information by exceptional users by for eg.; nullius, LoyceV, actmyname, and other major users who are technically sound. I believe those informative posts need archives so to be able to find them later anywhere as information is something that needs to be stored and it's just not that archives are only for scams and other things but yeah, reference is the key word.

[michjoe93]

you don't have to archive anything you see,you can stay without archiving anything at all better still you can archive the ones that are not important.

[UmerIdrees]

Hello,

I was reading on a few different boards of meta and lending. I found that everything is being archived every now and then so as to keep a track of raw and unmodified data.

I searched the forum for why and how it is done and found some useful guides made by :

• [project] LoyceV's Profile and Trust Archive site - Active and updated! by LoyceV
• [Guide] Best way to Archive Bitcointalk and other webpages by dkbit98

Now I have the complete idea of how to do it.

Many other members including me don't know a few things :

• Do we archive only our posts or everything that we post in or see or is there some criteria ?
• Is it done individually by all the users or is there someone who archives everything as a whole for the forum itself ?
• Do we only archive what seems to be useful to us or everything ?

I have never archived anything about me in the forum: posts, threads, replies, nothing at all. Only that, when I staked my address, someone else archived it for me.

Please give me a more insight on my questions. I don't think any new forum member knows about how and why it's done.

Thank you

First you need to understand why do you even need to archive any pages ? In most cases, you will not require to archive anything at all. If you are reporting any scams, you can archive it, so that what you witness, if altered later, you can have the proof.
You can archive using the site http://archive.vn/

[michjoe93]

from my idea,i dont think you have to archive anything all.once you see a post you dont like just read or better still you can decide to skip it.

[LTU_btc]

You don't have to archive random posts without important post. Usually posts is archived manually here in case of possible scam attempt. User may delete post, but archived post will remain and it can be used against this user later.
There is LoyceV website where you can find archived Bitcointalk posts and much more data scrapped from Bitcointalk. But there is some more websites which aren't affiliated with Bitcointalk members like archive.is or web.archive.org which scrap whole content on internet in general.
Offcourse we should archive conten which can be useful for us somehow. Why to archive things which isn't needed for you?

[DdmrDdmr]

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The notion being used here is rather more from a reference point of view than a personal archive of posts. The majority of people here will do not have to be concerned with post archiving, simply because the common grounds for it is to reference an immutable instance of a post, in deeds such as scam accusations, plagiarism, ban evasion, statistic snapshots, and so forth. More in line with evidence tracing than content preservation per se.