[Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message?

[phreess]

Hey Newbies (& Jr Members)! I want to give you the opportunity to earn some merit by using your Bitcoin client (or whatever you use). There is a great guide linked below showing you how to sign a message. If you can sign a message from your Bitcoin address with your bitcointalk username, post it here and I will send you merit. Enjoy!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

Example:

Address: 1BitcoinAddressGoesHere
Message: I’m OgNasty and I can sign a message.
Signature: 1BitcoinSignedMessageSignatureGoesHere

Anyone wishing to comment about potential abuse of my generosity on this thread, please read my response here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55305496#msg55305496

Address:

Code:

1Nqn4EfTfSTGqbcX34714MK6kxk6d93g1A

Message:

Code:

Hi im phreess from btctalk and i want to say thanks :)

Signature:

Code:

IAcOz2XF3dIEXxgqRq9CAsKDkGaWXC+4VsZWwaIM4HIkbxb/XZF0iNw9KyM3X76oLojbdgnaBYN3rgXsjNJA5mk=

Thanks, OgNasty! ^^

[Marfolone]

----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Marfolone. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1AXj3AR4c9tsLXXGGjA9G314U73hkUCsbw
HwDVkeV+QxvCrK+fTXyBIaZsuiWbFtTYLiMHZ/URyTiBSUM8hdKkNQTt6ZwxKw7BHtsoGInfmvr1W7EHyjEx6tU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[wtfguys]

----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am wtfguys. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qsfp8mf0s66fzak3h2t0qw5q8qvlkepfygd4p8l
IHryRanni6uex/zQ/cH5Fi009icvl/+zeJlhrJw7Q9cDPEoaqT6Qpfd67fTur6kpLBpWPMYSqqNGEl62PSiVcBQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[Yuff1983]

----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Yuff1983. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qj0wpwgv3p92krr8ezunhe84n9v8uwg63sg7fdv
HxmChS/vdpeI09//qQyV8jPDVQNirVbyBowUbUifW/qQbZde89Nxgm6fRI+7e6dq3TudOlebCcehFz3EwD+Ks1Q=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[bitmover]

My doubt, regarding signing in segwit address is if this is a "bug" and will soon be corrected, or is it an abandoned feature?

It is neither a bug nor an abandoned feature. It is just that we are still working on creating a more generalized signing scheme that lets people sign with things like P2SH addresses (e.g. sign with a multisig address). There is simply no standard yet for signing with such scripts or with Segwit.

Hi, thanks for quoting that discussion. This was my first discussion here in bitcointalk, more than 2 years ago, and the problem is still not solved... i wish we had a solution for this, so we all could really stop using legacy addresses for good,.

While electrum did a nice solution, we still need a solution which is widely verified by any software.

I believe your good nature in this undertaking has been abused right from the start:

Indeed.  That is what this community does and isn't limited to merit.  If what you say is happening in this thread is true, then it is a very good example of how this forum is allowing scammers to make multiple accounts to abuse the system for their own benefit at the cost of generous members offering their time and resources to help others.  If you think people are willing to go far to earn a merit, imagine the kind of nonsense occurring to get multiple accounts into the DT network to inflate their trust ratings and punish those who stand up against them.

How about increasing the level from now on? 

Set a requirement to use only vanity adresses with at least 4 digits. Most likely that will help to prevent *some* fraudulent practices if we add more requirements (at least x posts, at least x registration duration etc.).

That is really sad to see so many users trying to abuse this topic using newly created accounts just to spam.
I think setting a vanity address is going to be nice, however I think a minimum merit requirement would be interesting (like 2-3 merit)

[Bitcoin577]

Code:

Address: 19QpL3YidYZc8ULKYx21Z9z3y6Tf712417
Message: I am Bitcoin577 on Bitcointalk forum and today 5th October 2020 I can sign message
Signature: H4XYk/ecktX0d8+3OPF1rLP7oyKm9rkmx1OR06JGdwDwLNiw/J/WQofDcEwickV3xLDYyUstQMh30yIX+PpAMTc=

[eR4]

----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am eR4. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qnrjqf5j2nwnu6atz09v5r3z02l95a7w0vrcgy8

IG66vK/llZNLZYihm6MDX/oxScbE1OK+z1P099PxmBLrD7XND3CxEDgWYx45SCCu/vxcfpgVapU7Z8ioB4Mn7U4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[OgNasty]

I believe your good nature in this undertaking has been abused right from the start:

Indeed.  That is what this community does and isn't limited to merit.  If what you say is happening in this thread is true, then it is a very good example of how this forum is allowing scammers to make multiple accounts to abuse the system for their own benefit at the cost of generous members offering their time and resources to help others.  If you think people are willing to go far to earn a merit, imagine the kind of nonsense occurring to get multiple accounts into the DT network to inflate their trust ratings and punish those who stand up against them.

How about increasing the level from now on? 

Set a requirement to use only vanity adresses with at least 4 digits. Most likely that will help to prevent *some* fraudulent practices if we add more requirements (at least x posts, at least x registration duration etc.).

I don't want to require that level of technical prowess in order for newbies to earn a merit, nor do I want to require that they use software outside of Bitcoin Core to participate. 

I'm doing this for newbies to help them earn merit, so setting a post or age requirement goes against what I'm trying to achieve.  Granted, this thread is displaying major problems with this forum, which boils down to signature campaigns being mismanaged to the point that users are willing to spend their time signing up multiple accounts here to earn merit so they can enroll and earn Bitcoin from lazy campaign managers; and an easily manipulated trust network that rewards alt account users.  I think those are the issues here that need addressing, not my offer to give merit to newbies able to sign an address.

[1miau]

My doubt, regarding signing in segwit address is if this is a "bug" and will soon be corrected, or is it an abandoned feature?

It is neither a bug nor an abandoned feature. It is just that we are still working on creating a more generalized signing scheme that lets people sign with things like P2SH addresses (e.g. sign with a multisig address). There is simply no standard yet for signing with such scripts or with Segwit.

Hi, thanks for quoting that discussion. This was my first discussion here in bitcointalk, more than 2 years ago, and the problem is still not solved... i wish we had a solution for this, so we all could really stop using legacy addresses for good,.

While electrum did a nice solution, we still need a solution which is widely verified by any software.

Sure, it would be very nice but I don't have any problems to use legacy addresses for signing. At least, these "old" legacy addresses still have that mayor benefit over SegWit, that signing is fully compatible. It seems to me addresses starting with 1... are increasingly getting "hated" because SegWit is more efficient. 

How about increasing the level from now on? 

Set a requirement to use only vanity adresses with at least 4 digits. Most likely that will help to prevent *some* fraudulent practices if we add more requirements (at least x posts, at least x registration duration etc.).

I don't want to require that level of technical prowess in order for newbies to earn a merit, nor do I want to require that they use software outside of Bitcoin Core to participate. 

Ok, fair point.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Granted, this thread is displaying major problems with this forum, which boils down to signature campaigns being mismanaged to the point that users are willing to spend their time signing up multiple accounts here to earn merit so they can enroll and earn Bitcoin from lazy campaign managers; and an easily manipulated trust network that rewards alt account users.  I think those are the issues here that need addressing, not my offer to give merit to newbies able to sign an address.

Lazy users who earned merit here won't go too far. Bounties are their only choices. Good campaigns are not accept them as participants.

I see some members registered accounts and jumped directly to the topic in few minutes or hours.

[erikoy]

This is an example of a good user newbie that I think has a lot of knowledge about cryptocurrency. I learn to sign in a message in BTC wallet after having some activities being made here in the forum.

----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Yuff1983. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qj0wpwgv3p92krr8ezunhe84n9v8uwg63sg7fdv
HxmChS/vdpeI09//qQyV8jPDVQNirVbyBowUbUifW/qQbZde89Nxgm6fRI+7e6dq3TudOlebCcehFz3EwD+Ks1Q=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

OgNasty has been supporting newbie and other low rank in the forum. This is ideal for me to motivate the newbie to continue doing good by always contributing meaningful posts that could help the forum to minimize the shit posting activity usually being done by the low rank users. This newbie receiving merits should take chances to grow more and develop their knowledge in regards to cryptocurrency and if possible to rank up from newbie to higher rank as time pass by. This should help them and if they think merit received not helpful then they can have regret in time why not doing good when they were being supported already with this guy!

[Marfolone]

I believe your good nature in this undertaking has been abused right from the start:

Indeed.  That is what this community does and isn't limited to merit.  If what you say is happening in this thread is true, then it is a very good example of how this forum is allowing scammers to make multiple accounts to abuse the system for their own benefit at the cost of generous members offering their time and resources to help others.  If you think people are willing to go far to earn a merit, imagine the kind of nonsense occurring to get multiple accounts into the DT network to inflate their trust ratings and punish those who stand up against them.

How about increasing the level from now on? 

Set a requirement to use only vanity adresses with at least 4 digits. Most likely that will help to prevent *some* fraudulent practices if we add more requirements (at least x posts, at least x registration duration etc.).

I don't want to require that level of technical prowess in order for newbies to earn a merit, nor do I want to require that they use software outside of Bitcoin Core to participate. 

I'm doing this for newbies to help them earn merit, so setting a post or age requirement goes against what I'm trying to achieve.  Granted, this thread is displaying major problems with this forum, which boils down to signature campaigns being mismanaged to the point that users are willing to spend their time signing up multiple accounts here to earn merit so they can enroll and earn Bitcoin from lazy campaign managers; and an easily manipulated trust network that rewards alt account users.  I think those are the issues here that need addressing, not my offer to give merit to newbies able to sign an address.

Hi, can I sign again to get the merit? Or is it already impossible to do it for me?

[Jocuserious]

Hi, can I sign again to get the merit? Or is it already impossible to do it for me?

Such a stupid question and it seems you prefer to eat for free. you sing once and get merit from it then there is no suggestion to do it a second time. You know all the active newbies here are being helped with merit and they are being motivated so that they can work properly in this form.

Note: If you want to get a lot of merit and increase your rank then help the second person here with your skills. Keep in mind that merit is managed on the basis of your skills and merit is not available for free

[Insober]

----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Insober. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qcue2a7888mrl0xhqk90y4tca9yc097vdmkz2y4
H0xWQtT/V6GocuUSgpzp0dIhSZs72JkW8uQjUNnzdkgaQU3E1Hzeytr7VHXhjOSm89MwEp8CXwAOPBKgBIQ+1oI=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[Trinx01]

I really thought that it is hard to do but it wasn't, thank you for the chance to learn about signing a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Trinx01, I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: bc1qgfllpe8qwpyk3rzfs72us0pgn20dpljshrm9tk

ICYtiPf+K3Q+GB6DSjjx/vFXVwHcvdTg6paN9rsIyPP4ft+Qk0e7tD93f/esQ9RY/U/OPIGzgbXyUOSSyaXtbk0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[Insober]

Hi, can I sign again to get the merit? Or is it already impossible to do it for me?

Such a stupid question and it seems you prefer to eat for free. you sing once and get merit from it then there is no suggestion to do it a second time. You know all the active newbies here are being helped with merit and they are being motivated so that they can work properly in this form.

Note: If you want to get a lot of merit and increase your rank then help the second person here with your skills. Keep in mind that merit is managed on the basis of your skills and merit is not available for free

Will my reputation be minus for getting a free reputation?

[Timelord2067]

Will my reputation be minus for getting a free reputation?

Hard to tell at this point:

Post 160   26 May 2013, 22:17:55 Date Registered:       Insober
      8/29/2018 4:47:02 AM    password changed   Insober
      10/1/2020 3:07:47 PM    woke up         Insober (Last Parsed: 796 days)

https://archive.vn/YJb31
https://web.archive.org/web/20201006084016/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile&u=122958&sa=showPosts

We'll have to wait and see I guess.

[Insober]

Will my reputation be minus for getting a free reputation?

Hard to tell at this point:

Post 160   26 May 2013, 22:17:55 Date Registered:       Insober
      8/29/2018 4:47:02 AM    password changed   Insober
      10/1/2020 3:07:47 PM    woke up         Insober (Last Parsed: 796 days)

https://archive.vn/YJb31
https://web.archive.org/web/20201006084016/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile&u=122958&sa=showPosts

We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Why does the possibility of getting a negative reputation depend on my account history?
For getting merit in this topic, will I not get a bad reputation?

[Bitcoin577]

Will my reputation be minus for getting a free reputation?

Hard to tell at this point:

Post 160   26 May 2013, 22:17:55 Date Registered:       Insober
      8/29/2018 4:47:02 AM    password changed   Insober
      10/1/2020 3:07:47 PM    woke up         Insober (Last Parsed: 796 days)

https://archive.vn/YJb31
https://web.archive.org/web/20201006084016/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile&u=122958&sa=showPosts

We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Why does the possibility of getting a negative reputation depend on my account history?
For getting merit in this topic, will I not get a bad reputation?

Your account is very strange because registered in May 2013 but your post first time on 1st October 2020 its mean something fishy happen.

[Tala10]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Tala10. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1Fuxreds5pkhL5jszzwzPctDvKLYnFt9Dn

H+Mds07gcMNSwRkd4hvld62EHhyPiGiIvB3gTMpzHxlJbSR+7kHrFfeBNP1EUqbJBLXoGlLcoVV3sPvebcMLjVg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----