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September 11, 2020, 07:04:23 AM
Last edit: October 03, 2020, 10:58:52 PM by OgNasty
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Hey Newbies (& Jr Members)! I want to give you the opportunity to earn some merit by using your Bitcoin client (or whatever you use). There is a great guide linked below showing you how to sign a message. If you can sign a message from your Bitcoin address with your bitcointalk username, post it here and I will send you merit. Enjoy!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

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Address: 1BitcoinAddressGoesHere
Message: I’m OgNasty and I can sign a message.
Signature: 1BitcoinSignedMessageSignatureGoesHere


Anyone wishing to comment about potential abuse of my generosity on this thread, please read my response here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.msg55305496#msg55305496

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September 11, 2020, 07:07:12 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2020, 07:36:38 AM by tranthidung
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It is a good minor challenge to help them rank up and to force them learning and practicing the most basic and important feature of Bitcoin wallet. To do this they also have to learn, know and practice to use a non-custodial wallet.  Cheesy

Such the sign message can be used to recover accounts (of course it needs more evidence but a signed message from old wallet makes sense to help recovery progress).



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September 11, 2020, 07:46:51 AM
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This is an alternative option one can use to sign a message on mobile devices: Re: How can I sign a message from bech32 address on iPhone

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September 11, 2020, 08:02:23 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2020, 02:13:03 PM by erikoy
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am erikoy from bitcointalk.org and I am free as the wind
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 37ATZWKdEut1x1Ya9esfqELKc7ANoqJ8yp

IBvLkGQH/hUgHvd32YC6liIa6YSzRYCeg6yllO0Vy4KpeYN5YebtDqp6ubtEoxD8jCXYkJxHJI4UxKp+kGfTWeM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Yeah I did thanks for this info. Im sure that it will come handy for reference in the future.

Edited: to check for validity,
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September 11, 2020, 08:49:13 AM
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It seems like a nice initiative but I just read about dust attacks, isn't it unsafe to post addresses here and there so that people associate the address with your username?
If the idea is to be anonymous, why publish addresses?

I know how to sign from an address, I have Electrum installed and I don't need merit. I have enough and I can't even spend them all.

Learning about Bitcoin.
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September 11, 2020, 08:58:05 AM
Last edit: September 11, 2020, 11:40:21 AM by jademaxsuy
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Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi I am Jademaxsuy and today is my favorite day which is friday (flyday)
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1CSs325akXu3LspxmFgLVeGyv98F8Zfffk

IDVD6LdC7pNeL/IvA5+cJ4wLBHe2LhVmyL3hW6luHoylJVK6pZeSJOB4eseySIMlSWNf8KlWiHOOuoxNtzGZ5sQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
I am feeling newbie in this and just downloaded my first btc wallet.
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September 11, 2020, 09:01:38 AM
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This is a really great opportunity for all the Newbies and Jr. members.
I am not part however it would be awesome If i can get one aswell Cheesy

Code:
Address: 1Thour7Wc4mXpoqnQQuHKb9LRWSHSkGt6
Message: I am ImThour and I have signed this message.
Signature: G6n9uzOW/ts2HZaubYKwh6MRMoV8XsQqL4d6fpmpOVmWA32v+H82qepvWyzuib8qDYLA2Og8mwQPqv8/6h0auJs=

Thank you once again!
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For users from the Russian locale, there is a great guide on how to sign a message. The instruction contain information about different wallets at once.
You can find it at this link.

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Address: 1CUbJvAk4xhoJK54R6Mdo7KRzA7KgtkHp9
Message: I'm OgNasty and I approve this message.
Signature: Gxs9C2d1vBE1CWiXgZTqYvWTA0j8gQXExuLGwBmIL0mDJvsdbglc++3EO2EbtT3jmp8jZUTvyC9hqapqPDiA3k8=
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-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi I am  erikoy from bitcointalk.org nice to meet you
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 37ATZWKdEut1x1Ya9esfqELKc7ANoqJ8yp

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-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
wrong signature

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi I am Jademaxsuy and today is my favorite day which is friday (flyday)
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1CSs325akXu3LspxmFgLVeGyv98F8Zfffk

IDVD6LdC7pNeL/IvA5+cJ4wLBHe2LhVmyL3hW6luHoylJVK6pZeSJOB4eseySIMlSWNf8KlWiHOOuoxNtzGZ5sQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

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Code:
Address: 1Thour7Wc4mXpoqnQQuHKb9LRWSHSkGt6
Message: I am ImThour and I have signed this message.
Signature: G6n9uzOW/ts2HZaubYKwh6MRMoV8XsQqL4d6fpmpOVmWA32v+H82qepvWyzuib8qDYLA2Og8mwQPqv8/6h0auJs=
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September 11, 2020, 01:31:31 PM
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This reminds me of my This is not a stake your Bitcoin address here thread, but an interesting reminder Xmas thread, where I focused on remembering how to sign a message. Having and incentive to do so on the entry level Beginners & Help is very interesting from a learning point of view. I’m really looking forward to see how many (genuine) Newbies & Jr. Members manage to do it, alongside the Q&A and situations this could lead to here on this thread.
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-snip- BTW, I found that Bitcoin Core cannot sign using native segwit addresses (bc1...). Somebody should implement that. -snip-
You cannot sign messages using the SegWit address on Bitcoin Core. I've also tried it.

-snip-


I have also asked about this issue. Here's the answer from achow101:

There is no solution and you cannot sign a message with a segwit address. This has been the case since segwit was introduced. See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10542

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-snip-
Feels free not to join when you are not need it.

However, if you want to stay anonymous then generated a new address and sign a message with a message like this.

"This sign's message only to prove my self can do sign message, I'm not using this address anymore after posting it (Only for educational purpose).

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September 11, 2020, 09:12:45 PM
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So far no Newbies or Jr Members have provided a signed message.  I gave out a few merit to Members to try and get the ball rolling, but would love to see some Newbies provide a signed message.


It seems like a nice initiative but I just read about dust attacks, isn't it unsafe to post addresses here and there so that people associate the address with your username?
If the idea is to be anonymous, why publish addresses?

Dust attacks isn't really a thing.  There is nothing forcing you to ever spend the dust, so as long as you know how to properly manage your wallet and not include dust in your transactions, there is no harm.

Linking a Bitcoin address to your username doesn't seem unsafe to me and you could always use a new address for this single task.

The idea behind Bitcoin isn't to be anonymous.

I'm asking users to publish a signed message for their own educational purpose, providing them with merit as a reward for doing so. 

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September 12, 2020, 12:40:10 AM
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So far no Newbies or Jr Members have provided a signed message.  I gave out a few merit to Members to try and get the ball rolling, but would love to see some Newbies provide a signed message.
Thank you.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is MusaMohamed. On 9/11/2020, I can sign a message from this address: bc1qaz703frdvdcrapvzfna5prwd6h3km6kl8rd0v8
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Dust attacks isn't really a thing.  There is nothing forcing you to ever spend the dust, so as long as you know how to properly manage your wallet and not include dust in your transactions, there is no harm.

Linking a Bitcoin address to your username doesn't seem unsafe to me and you could always use a new address for this single task.

The idea behind Bitcoin isn't to be anonymous.

I'm asking users to publish a signed message for their own educational purpose, providing them with merit as a reward for doing so. 
Thank you for the note too. I will only use this address for sign message. For others I will create another wallet.

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September 12, 2020, 01:18:44 AM
Merited by OgNasty (7)
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I tried to sign a bitcoin address message (Segwit) for the first time using Coinomi (after reading this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259076.msg54711272#msg54711272).
I haven't tried using other wallets to verify it.

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Address: bc1qpyv8z69tadl7ufvftarc0fj63c2ys94x433n7j
Message: September 12, 2020, I am Anwar151, signed this message
Signature: H7U78y+LsrVSRZ8Q1FPuLm8ObxkFe1NvIwyGyhwtTiV4Tqyper4qte9yiErcsyOUJW7pLy+2mxJapHxgVoQEUpA=
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September 12, 2020, 03:31:32 AM
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Those who don't have/away from pc, you can also use Coinomi to sign the message.

Btw, @op don't you think your giveaway can be abused since you are giving merits to newbie rank for simple task?

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September 12, 2020, 08:02:10 AM
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It seems like a nice initiative but I just read about dust attacks, isn't it unsafe to post addresses here and there so that people associate the address with your username?
If the idea is to be anonymous, why publish addresses?

I know how to sign from an address, I have Electrum installed and I don't need merit. I have enough and I can't even spend them all.
Well, it does no harm to post your wallet address. It's more like your local bank account number which, you can just give it out to just anyone and everyone with little or nothing to fear. Hence, there is really nothing wrong in doing that. Besides, how do you expect to receive if you don't give up your address. I get you being scared but the point is;
Dust attacks are likely to occur more often, having shitcoins or coins with less value sent to you as it can happen to just anyone within the cryptosphere. The dangers of it is constituted in your trying to accumulate these series of shitcoins or low value coins to previously accumulated once hereby, creating a link or chain of wallets and possibly, there could be an unofficial flaw in your set-up which they capitalize on.
Again as per having a enough merit, it's good that you don't base your effort on accumulating them but, having a lot more if possible isn't a bad idea and you should. For that which is enough today, might turn out to be less significant tomorrow.
Give it a trier and sign up.

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September 12, 2020, 10:20:46 AM
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-snip-
Btw, @op don't you think your giveaway can be abused since you are giving merits to newbie rank for simple task?
So in your opinion, the education provided by the OP is useful or not? And what kind of task is better done?
I think if someone already knows how to use something, it will be easy for him. It was different if he didn't realize that even small things would be difficult because of his ignorance.
And I think the OP's point is not easy or not to make a signed message, but how to educate those who don't know how to do it by learning and finding out how.

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Dust attacks are likely to occur more often, having shitcoins or coins with less value sent to you as it can happen to just anyone within the cryptosphere. The dangers of it is constituted in your trying to accumulate these series of shitcoins or low value coins to previously accumulated once hereby, creating a link or chain of wallets and possibly, there could be an unofficial flaw in your set-up which they capitalize on.
Dust Attack, what it is, why it is dangerous and how to prevent falling to it. Open Coin Control feature, learn to use it and do what Ognasty discussed can help.  Smiley

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September 12, 2020, 06:27:45 PM
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Btw, @op don't you think your giveaway can be abused since you are giving merits to newbie rank for simple task?

No, it isn't abuse for them to receive a reward for doing a task, it's participation.  Only 2 Newbies/Jr Members have managed to do it yet anyway, so it seems that maybe to them it isn't such a simple task. 

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