[Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message?

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

It will be a good number of jr. members or members in rank to see here in the forum instead of being a newbie. Newbie with higher activities and are already qualified to become a jr. member should join here so that they will not get left behind by other newbies that are just newly made their accounts.

Quality is not what newbie members with high activities have. If they have quality, they are not newbies after they create hundred or thousand posts.

A user will just going to download a wallet and then sign in a message for their btc address

The address is used to sign a message should be kept as empty address. They can use another address to store their bitcoin and remember to not reuse any bitcoin address.

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[metro400]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am metro400 and I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1KiMvZXPt6yq5oN6X6qDX9of4LoUHdh9WQ

IMR0brG1Xkk+ry6I3Gpdj4DTH9jSjjGMjlwEraz2iOwHU8/E/WQTReVv7AVVZzoRAIpakZlWIIfS6J9BaeA494w=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[Lrshohag]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Lrshohag a newbie member in bitcointalk. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1AmH7xFaXy5zubvX6NBkt9wkNTSEh8e9Kp

H4iD7kIpbQXovFJ5r0zxX6dRuoIvVuGCwNIRmUaT5gmwcmxl/feFp4piPz2SDRhKVPXZ93pIApMxRawUG8JAB/E=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[dhaldanga]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am dhaldanga and I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 176M58DAQdDvnTt44ZLeBkfr1Htvsx72F2

H6POfIPjOR7dY+9ktSl/o+VOBv4NQnrPAGTwv4Q9wJN7YOLGbYJ/6idXA5+wCLvw1/m2YqLiuT4obY/Y+9AnHs8=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[chotu1]

Code:

Address: 1Ku4VzZZwaZcNzSLjNsoP39hEc6HdgQTfb
Message: I’m chotu1 and I can sign a message.
Signature: IHFNaoCP8N9p0HkL/po8yWNUhr6q2C/xPRMFBF5nbhnhtFurXgFFAYf5wBXtu0oGM+/XgsSifVsTCHYt2D0BPZ8=

[Bhurungamari]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Bhurungamari. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1NrsSEdgBYFdGXXtkeMmZzN3rMTFKSt43f

H0hnzKna1HotF4kzgDd7M+OQ6d+CdwRJqw3O1GUtDCSZbwm7EfYRDU6n/mjpMUs2cO/OGMHRc4mmxtfCTnSeerk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[kamrul50]

Address: 1JfwN1qFD1BSqBzEbNm4EunDCnfSn8brGD
Message: I am kamrul50. I can sign a message.
Signature: ILqVeLU7yAAm6siIYj2i/Czk7IwKGzbzBxAVvcnJkRNEMYj8E4m5gioW8pwSjzl710/b0qFSHU4DBJfOBOme1ls=

[kokilpakhi]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

I am kokilpakhi. I can sign a message.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Version: MultiBit HD (0.1.1)

Comment: https://multibit.org

Address: 12Pr9eqFS1rjsfeM3z5s6LpjfXym9DFdAe

 

IAp9TX200WlyxLQI/cfi37VNUk7y6whs1GdWVAZbz7ibNslQHoDW02NvEEZEnB8TNU+8MTUY+0wl/plnDIpamHE=

-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[s0lidus]

Those who don't have/away from pc, you can also use Coinomi to sign the message.

Btw, @op don't you think your giveaway can be abused since you are giving merits to newbie rank for simple task?

I find it a very good initiative. I'm pretty sure a lot of users never even heard of signing a messages from Bitcoin addresses. Even I didn't know about it until around 3-4 years ago, when I needed to sign a message to recover an account somewhere. I was like, wtf? Something like this back then would have saved me a lot of time =P

What might seem like a simple task for "advanced" users, isn't for newbies. Besides that, new "bitcoiners" may avoid storing coins on third party wallets/services, as they'll notice they don't have full control over their funds when trying to sign a message from some shitty service calling themselves a wallet.

[Tenoloc50]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am Tenaloc50 and I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 19AKNG5fDGuA24n81eWYFFejmDBVTnYzFs

H42+pvsuCyLxzE/mBa5758ZLDZgyz3p6vi5q5JTrpc3FeZDKhu3XPQ4NDDuD7boJwUHZXtrGho4oc8Eyy78Amsg=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[kasakola]

Sir i check it so done



-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I'm  kasakola i can sign a message
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1Gu6F8pBbrjUwjWs4okxUmoyF1SrcyWLS8

IJSGn8J+6tmhKYkJm7Obh+AoQ3FZTk4mwbovOZqQGbSNWcKEj17jRSkgSU5dv8kxTSBCXVkqhVTKMhWn05uFgOE=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[AlexPr0]

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am AlexPr0. I can sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1NLDMyZJQCjppkUnV9FcdihyA8MUy7qsMF
IDfoVttROUmr7jIUoW5cvwDTVpHkKbINxESg2Hza6TXoS9N5pwiLr+QcqBofPOQBWR6u2gUclsWQgqIOPSPMRpM=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hope I got it right  

[seParatrooper]

Code:

Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=

[OgNasty]

Code:

Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=

Wouldn't verify.

[seParatrooper]

Code:

Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=

Wouldn't verify.

Next try.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.
Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1DzCzCTV9T2SnAPieK7Yt333cqNqLDYQq6
IPS68FpMBCF+KaO40HkTfOA8gW65Uzc0o7S8G0H0KFdMMR64mWy/ZhMvYd/15Su0l8vgqZnQ6FuK/XnulBrufqU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

For some reason a message signed in Electrum 4.0.3 from a address starting with the BC characters does not pass verification using the service.

[MysteriousPackages]

I think I did this correctly!

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is MysteriousPackages from bitcointalk.org and today is 10/04/20
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qhydzaly3u4e38dp08v48vghjxxdhk5zn52fn8f
H2TszUg/0l7bJCpbzusH5akD++6Juf9P4t4aDob0sNaxGSbSDoKKgp+0KdGtiB8IspehKkIg/Z+27yfFjMWqVX4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

[1miau]

Code:

Address: bc1qgmu677807vnqrxp549vvw7x050czyw9jhstkgv

Message: I’m seParatrooper and I can sign a message.

Thank you OgNasty for such a great task. Before that, I didn't know that a bitcoin wallet can be used to sign a message.

Signature: HxXo6XzXKjVDsYlHMVBYm5tc/KwmNfxnKLOln3noLiOqHpvgLEIpulT43NGiQwggx00Ots7ffOc2jut4P1q5UZ0=

Wouldn't verify.

Next try.
...

It didn't verify because SegWit (bech32 is native SegWit) has no standard for signing messages yet:

My doubt, regarding signing in segwit address is if this is a "bug" and will soon be corrected, or is it an abandoned feature?

It is neither a bug nor an abandoned feature. It is just that we are still working on creating a more generalized signing scheme that lets people sign with things like P2SH addresses (e.g. sign with a multisig address). There is simply no standard yet for signing with such scripts or with Segwit.

However, if it's signed from Electrum, it can be verified from Electrum but only from Electrum because Electrum is using an own function to sign / verify here.
It verifies from Electrum:



And because of that it doesn't verify from Jochen Hoenicke website:



But for better compatibility it's always recommended to sign from legacy addresses (1....).

I think I did this correctly!

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is MysteriousPackages from bitcointalk.org and today is 10/04/20
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qhydzaly3u4e38dp08v48vghjxxdhk5zn52fn8f
H2TszUg/0l7bJCpbzusH5akD++6Juf9P4t4aDob0sNaxGSbSDoKKgp+0KdGtiB8IspehKkIg/Z+27yfFjMWqVX4=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Same issue here, only verifies in Electrum:

[1miau]

I believe your good nature in this undertaking has been abused right from the start:

Indeed.  That is what this community does and isn't limited to merit.  If what you say is happening in this thread is true, then it is a very good example of how this forum is allowing scammers to make multiple accounts to abuse the system for their own benefit at the cost of generous members offering their time and resources to help others.  If you think people are willing to go far to earn a merit, imagine the kind of nonsense occurring to get multiple accounts into the DT network to inflate their trust ratings and punish those who stand up against them.

How about increasing the level from now on? 

Set a requirement to use only vanity adresses with at least 4 digits. Most likely that will help to prevent *some* fraudulent practices if we add more requirements (at least x posts, at least x registration duration etc.).

[erikoy]

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Why is that other wallet btc address could not be verified? Isn't it connected to the bitcoin network? Or only it will be connected when wallet will be used for doing new transaction which is being broadcast to the network and node will going to accept and update it as the latest transaction for bitcoin. However, I am confused with bitcoin network and that include this one signing in message though I can sign in a message in my bitcoin wallet but it could not be verified just like what it shows in the other replies.

What could be the reason behind why electrum wallets could not be verified by other signing bitcoin verification message?

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Why is that other wallet btc address could not be verified? Isn't it connected to the bitcoin network? Or only it will be connected when wallet will be used for doing new transaction which is being broadcast to the network and node will going to accept and update it as the latest transaction for bitcoin. However, I am confused with bitcoin network and that include this one signing in message though I can sign in a message in my bitcoin wallet but it could not be verified just like what it shows in the other replies.

What could be the reason behind why electrum wallets could not be verified by other signing bitcoin verification message?

It depends on each wallet. Most of wallets use BIP 39 for their mnemonic seed but Electrum has its own code to create wallet seed (not BIP 39). The difference causes troubles when you verify signature by different wallets.

If you have ever imported other wallets that support BIP 39 into Electrum, you will see the option for BIP 39.

https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/seedphrase.html

Moreover, if a wallet does not support Segwit address type, it can not verify signature is signed from a Segwit address with another wallet.