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September 13, 2020, 10:29:18 AM
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If all countries can accepted crypto currencies in there various countries, as a means of payment and as a means of online exchanges, such as money is, money is anything use as a means of exchange and general acceptable. With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange. I will be so grateful to the creation of crypto currencies. This will also help our future generation, Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet,And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).
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September 13, 2020, 11:14:07 AM
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If all countries can accepted crypto currencies in there various countries, as a means of payment and as a means of online exchanges, such as money is, money is anything use as a means of exchange and general acceptable. With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange. I will be so grateful to the creation of crypto currencies. This will also help our future generation, Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet

this is not so simple. we have to look the other way:

For example, if a person has 100 bitcoins and after that person dies without showing the family private keys and password, how will the family benefit from bitcoins?

If a worker receives wages in bitcoin, how will the government discount life insurance to guarantee the person's retirement? and with this question of volatility how will everything be?

And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).

am i missing something? is this new altcoin?

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September 13, 2020, 11:39:55 AM
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The future global currency will not be based on Bitcoin or any of the current alts in my opinion. It will be a centralised virtual currency operated by the banking elite.

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September 13, 2020, 11:49:25 AM
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If all countries can accepted crypto currencies in there various countries, as a means of payment and as a means of online exchanges, such as money is, money is anything use as a means of exchange and general acceptable. With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange. I will be so grateful to the creation of crypto currencies. This will also help our future generation, Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet

this is not so simple. we have to look the other way:

For example, if a person has 100 bitcoins and after that person dies without showing the family private keys and password, how will the family benefit from bitcoins?

If a worker receives wages in bitcoin, how will the government discount life insurance to guarantee the person's retirement? and with this question of volatility how will everything be?
it is sad that some people tend to ignore these things and boast about bitcoin can fix almost every economic problem.

And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).

am i missing something? is this new altcoin?
when the OP said "bitcoin ETC" the OP probably meant bitcoin and other cryptocurrency.

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September 13, 2020, 11:58:08 AM
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Worldwide acceptance is still too low. There are a lot of problems with regulation and merchants adoption. And still, not so much people need it in general
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September 13, 2020, 12:23:11 PM
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If all countries can accepted crypto currencies in there various countries, as a means of payment and as a means of online exchanges, such as money is, money is anything use as a means of exchange and general acceptable. With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange. I will be so grateful to the creation of crypto currencies. This will also help our future generation, Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet,And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).

There is so many people who are okay with credit cards now. The process of leaving credit cards and starting to use cryptocurrencies will not be so fast I think. Besides, there are so many governments that are against the decentralized nature of Bitcoin. They would like to have the control over cryptos. So, I think we will see many centralized cryptos in the future. There will also be decentralized ones too but they will be used as alternative.

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September 13, 2020, 12:53:34 PM
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Here's an issue I see: banks have the right to ask you where some of your funds come from or what a tx is for. Authorities have the right to seize funds in case they think something's wrong with them. Not only that, but transactions through banks take much longer while BTC ones are instant.

If Bitcoin becomes a massively adopted coin, things will have to be the same with BTC too. You would be interrogated at any given time about txs, those that aren't linked to your identity could be flagged as suspicious, your home could be raided in case they wanted to seize your BTC etc. In the world we are currently living in, a pseudonymous cryptocurrency that is fully decentralized simply cannot become mainstream.

There's more to it: Say the government has its annual spending budget in a Bitcoin wallet and, suddenly, someone clicks the wrong thing and everything vanishes into some random hacker's wallet (or poofs into a wrong address that has never even been used yet). Bitcoin is decentralized, so there goes literally all that money. Forever. How do you enforce tax payments? How do you make it so that Bitcoin payments become affordable for everyone?

Freedom is nice. Decentralization is as well. But unfortunately, we just aren't ready yet to fully adopt them as daily drivers. The only way to do so would be if we had decentralized everything and had no central governance.. and that means war.

The future global currency will not be based on Bitcoin or any of the current alts in my opinion. It will be a centralised virtual currency operated by the banking elite.
Agreed 100%.

And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).

am i missing something? is this new altcoin?
OP probably meant "Bitcoin and others (et cetera)".
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September 13, 2020, 12:55:57 PM
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Worldwide cryptocurrency acceptance is impossible i guess, because despite the trends and its popularity, there are still several conservative countries who are hesitant and refuses to adopt and legalized it. The fact that it is really beneficial and useful to the Country's economy is still not enough to encourage the Government to make it  as the mainstream payment method. There are a lot of things to consider, maybe in the future but it will take a long process and fiat/physical currency will remain in the mainstream fund management.
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September 13, 2020, 01:13:18 PM
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There is a chance that it will accept soon but still right now we need to take some actions. Some of the country still banned the use of the bitcoin and cryptocurrency. But some of the country are just regulating the use of the crypto some of them used wallets that support the crypto and they set a limitation on it so they can make sure there is no illegal action like sending a large amount of funds. Some of the business today too are already accepting the use of the bitcoin as a payment to their stores so they can transfer their funds immediately and pay the bills without hassle there is a chance too they will do this because now we need to make a physical distancing or social distancing to prevent spreading the infection.

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September 13, 2020, 01:15:27 PM
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If all countries can accepted crypto currencies in there various countries, as a means of payment and as a means of online exchanges, such as money is, money is anything use as a means of exchange and general acceptable. With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange. I will be so grateful to the creation of crypto currencies. This will also help our future generation, Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet,And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).

This analogy you posits is not something that will likely happen and even if it's going to happen, I don't see it replacing the existing fiat each country is currently utilising. The reason is simple aside the primary currency function that fiat satisfy, it still goes a step further by being an identity of the country and that is something that cannot be quantified.
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September 13, 2020, 01:16:21 PM
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But unfortunately government doesn't operate decentralized coin and all the things are dependent on centralized local currency. Hopefully in future, Bitcoin and other major coin will be accepted by government.
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If all countries can accepted crypto currencies in there various countries, as a means of payment and as a means of online exchanges, such as money is, money is anything use as a means of exchange and general acceptable. With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange. I will be so grateful to the creation of crypto currencies. This will also help our future generation, Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet,And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).
FYI  You might be interested in the responses to this recent thread since 'mainstream' and acceptance are closely related --> Poll: when will cryptocurrency go mainstream?

I have been pondering this question recently.  While bitcoin is decentralized and not dependent on governments for its existence I believe that it is dependent on countries for its acceptance (or at least the degree of acceptance). Countries support for bitcoin varies considerably from where ownership and trade is practically illegal to more 'bitcoin friendly' countries. All governments have a fiat currency which drives its economy and bitcoin doesn't do it any favors so it is understandable that even so-called 'bitcoin friendly' countries are really just 'bitcoin tolerant'. The larger bitcoin gets the great the perceived threat to their fiat currency the more likely the country will become less tolerant. Your example of international transfers is a great one where bitcoin can do a much better job than traditional means however that isn't going to drive wide spread acceptance IMHO. It needs more use cases where it is a superior the alternatives. 

Take the USA which I would describe as bitcoin tolerant...Yes, I can own and trade bitcoins BUT I needed to track every exchange and report it on my taxes.  That means if I was to use bitcoins to buy, say, my dinner I would have to track this micro purchase and report it as a gain (or loss) which to me is a massive barrier toward its usage. Hence it largely is viewed/used as commodity or a 'store of value' for speculative investment. In this space most countries can tolerate bitcoin because it doesn't go head to head with their own fiat currency. They just need to regulate it so they can get their proper tax cut out of any investment appreciation and they are happy.

Satoshi's response to 'Bitcoins are most like shares of common stock' thread:
Bitcoins have no dividend or potential future dividend, therefore not like a stock.
More like a collectible or commodity.
The problem is that the alternative for micro purchases to the vast majority (of people living in the USA at least) is a touch act to follow even if you ignore the tax tracking issue.  Credit cards are widely accepted, easy to use, and even pays me money back to use it (yes I am blessed in that I can pay off all my CC debt). Sure, they are susceptible to fraud but largely I am not held liable when it occurs unless I am grossly negligent. Can bitcoin really compete with that use case?

Satoshi outlines an interesting 'fringe' use case that unfortunately won't lead to universal acceptance, but is interesting  Wink
Bitcoin would be convenient for people who don't have a credit card or don't want to use the cards they have, either don't want the spouse to see it on the bill or don't trust giving their number to "porn guys", or afraid of recurring billing.
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September 13, 2020, 01:19:33 PM
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With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange.

Why this hasn't happened already, is 10 years not enough? Why you can't just go outside and randomly bump into a "bitcoin accepted here" sign, and instead if you want to buy something with Bitcoin, you have to search for stores that accept it on the Internet and then spend your time getting there, and there's no guarantee that they offer better prices than regular stores.

And don't mix Bitcoin with altcoins, altcoins are fundamentally not suitable to be global currencies, they are full of bugs and bad design choices that make them unsecure and centralized.
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September 13, 2020, 01:24:55 PM
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The future global currency will not be based on Bitcoin or any of the current alts in my opinion. It will be a centralised virtual currency operated by the banking elite.
Yes, this is gonna happen for sure. By the time centralized virtual currency will be functional over the blockchain platform. Bitcoin will get used same as now, as an alternate to the traditional system. However there is chance to see bitcoin as the national currency in any of the country in the world.

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Unpopular opinion: Though there's zero doubt that it's better, Bitcoin doesn't need to be "accepted" by every country's governments and accepted by most merchants to be "successful".

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September 13, 2020, 01:38:45 PM
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Unpopular opinion: Though there's zero doubt that it's better, Bitcoin doesn't need to be "accepted" by every country's governments and accepted by most merchants to be "successful".

In a way this unpopular opinion isn't completely out of reason. What we need desperately is to have worldwide acceptance of digital currency not particularly BTC but other cryptos. BTC is only a small fraction of the crypto 'per say' but adoption is much more important for its predecessors as that's where the real value lies.





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September 13, 2020, 01:41:24 PM
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In a way this unpopular opinion isn't completely out of reason. What we need desperately is to have worldwide acceptance of digital currency not particularly BTC but other cryptos. BTC is only a small fraction of the crypto 'per say' but adoption is much more important for its predecessors as that's where the real value lies.

Not what I had in mind. What I think is that Bitcoin serves one of it's main purposes as long as people use Bitcoin to store their wealth, and just sell small chunks for fiat when they need to spend money on places that doesn't accept BTC.

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September 13, 2020, 01:54:46 PM
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Unpopular opinion: Though there's zero doubt that it's better, Bitcoin doesn't need to be "accepted" by every country's governments and accepted by most merchants to be "successful".

In a way this unpopular opinion isn't completely out of reason. What we need desperately is to have worldwide acceptance of digital currency not particularly BTC but other cryptos. BTC is only a small fraction of the crypto 'per say' but adoption is much more important for its predecessors as that's where the real value lies.

I don't agree with this. We don't need altcoins to be accepted worldwide. I really couldn't care less if XRP burns in a flame of bankruptcy one day or if Craig Wright's shitcoin gets delisted from every single exchange. Why would you need BCH or any other useless coin to be accepted worldwide if Bitcoin is not.
IMO we don't desperately need acceptance. We need to move forward with each year and the longer BTC stays on the map the stronger it will become. More people will get used to it and understand that it's safe and it's here to stay. I hate gold comparisons, but gold isn't accepted everywhere. You actually have to search a bit before you find a gold exchange near you.

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September 13, 2020, 03:54:10 PM
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Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet,And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).
Said issue is happening because the government basically limits everything behind the issue of security(or their inability, or whatever reason you can cook up for them), it's only a matter of time imo before instant transactions happen anywhere. I also used to think BTC being adopted worldwide was for the best, but my time with crypto proved otherwise. It's a lot better for centralized systems to actually be implemented and adopted in the long run, while BTC (or any other crypto for that matter) just needs to stand at their own place. It's like they're welcome to the world, but not absolutely needed or required by anyone. It can be used anywhere, but not necessarily everywhere.

 
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September 13, 2020, 04:22:58 PM
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If all countries can accepted crypto currencies in there various countries, as a means of payment and as a means of online exchanges, such as money is, money is anything use as a means of exchange and general acceptable. With the means I think all cryptocurrencies (bitcoin) will definitely go round the world, and will be use as a means of exchange. I will be so grateful to the creation of crypto currencies. This will also help our future generation, Remember something when we do international transfer across the countries, it may take a while to get the money to your local bank account, but with cryptocurrency you can get instant reflection if bitcoin etc is transfer to wallet,And you can make use of your coin (bitcoin ETC).

Very happy to see another cryptocurrency lover but sir this is still experimental position in world economy. As there is no middle men and decentralized method all are in fear of acceptance BTC as well as cryptocurrency. But in this COVID season government and investors must thought about secure online investment so that huge investment came and at the same time US central bank, Swiss bank making custody of BTC. So we also hope like you that BTC will be world wide today or tomorrow.

thanks.
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