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[Manager BetFury]

Hello bitcoin community and betfury manager,

Give me one good reason why betfury, goosebet and others are not a ponzi schemes...

1. they are centralized
2. they are anonymous
3. they can't be held accountable
4. they are hoping new members provide liquidity to a dividend pool that pays existing holders
5. transactions are recorded off-chain
6. who knows where the bitcoin that is deposited goes too
7. when mining gets expensive, players are not going to have an incentive to gamble there and the the pool dries up they will exit scam
8. why are betfury and goosebet soo similar in it's whitepaper/business model? (same company perhaps)

betfury manager - how can you address this?

bitcoin community -  how are most of ya'll legendary members and are not seeing that this is some sort of new scheme by anonymous gaming operators?

Greetings!
First of all the way of interaction with users in the gaming community due to staking payments and behavior mining is not a novelty in the world of crypto gambling. We have said more than once that dividends are one of the platform's features.
Secondly, there are many different scams and "ponzi schemes" on the Internet. None of them is not developing a global ecosystem, not working on the implementation of its own product, not partnering with global providers, and is not working on obtaining a license. During this year we have proved that we are not a one-year project.
Thirdly, Goosebet and others tried to copy the elements of the website, our whitepaper, our staking system, even our stickers. We kindly ask the community to not associate us with them.

[D2Hammer]

I am really happy with betfury, especialy their dividends feature. Make losses a little bit more bearable 

Unfortunately the release of new games from third party providers takes very long compared to other casinos. And I miss a few providers like NetEnt.
@Manager Bet Fury: Can you release new games a little bit faster and are any new providers in the pipe?

[dwyane36]

With less than 2 hours left of the Crash battle people are now getting into their positions but who's going to secure 1st place and win?

Users with high rank got easy profit in the Crash battle without any competition, and the same situation will happen in the Plinko and hi/lo battles.

If you don't find the time to get into this one, very strategically the casino lined up another battle to get involved with and this time is Plinko.

So, I think users don't need much time for these battles because everyone can set auto bet.

[fsgambler1]

Hello bitcoin community and betfury manager,

Give me one good reason why betfury, goosebet and others are not a ponzi schemes...

1. they are centralized
2. they are anonymous
3. they can't be held accountable
4. they are hoping new members provide liquidity to a dividend pool that pays existing holders
5. transactions are recorded off-chain
6. who knows where the bitcoin that is deposited goes too
7. when mining gets expensive, players are not going to have an incentive to gamble there and the the pool dries up they will exit scam
8. why are betfury and goosebet soo similar in it's whitepaper/business model? (same company perhaps)

betfury manager - how can you address this?

bitcoin community -  how are most of ya'll legendary members and are not seeing that this is some sort of new scheme by anonymous gaming operators?

I agree with you! They said they'd get a license last year and they still don't have it. Not many here know what shady things Betfury did last year in the first couple months they launched. Here is what I mentioned previously!

I just want to first say, I've been following this thread for awhile and the community have been doing a great job sniffing out their LIES about their inflated numbers. I've created this account to share my experience. I'm going to expose everything about them and why you shouldn't trust them. I was a week 1 investor when they first launched their casino, I stopped investing after I found out they manipulate their dividend pool. They would unfreeze and freeze their tokens to stabilize their dividends. They had a fixed number APR and ROI, just how they have now to lure/manipulate newbies that don't know how to calculate these numbers for their investment. The APR/ROI was over inflated and never changed(just like now as well). Many investors warned them if they kept unfreezing their tokens, they'll eventually run out of money to support the casino and will have to freeze their tokens which will hurt investors. They had at least 70-80% of their tokens unfrozen to stabilize dividends. Many investors asked if they will freeze their tokens and the answer was always no for almost 2 months. After MANY promises to investors they had no plans to freeze their tokens, on CHRISTMAS DAY, WITHOUT any warning, they froze 80% their tokens! This burnt many investors who invested thousands of dollars.

Here are some user proof
https://i.imgur.com/b7TTQT2m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HuGcbsGm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WCnth4em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lGq80Xhm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/whtPSX4m.jpg

When they first launched Betfury 2.0, the dividend page already showed a 450% APR and like a 60 Day ROI, how did they get this number before ANY PROFIT? It's a lie, they just make up numbers to look like an attractive investment.

They used to have a 1.5% house edge, they changed it to 2%. They mentioned they changed the edge so they have more money to fill up the dividend and jackpot pool. This means they don't care about their gamblers, they don't want gamblers to win. All they care about is mining to feed their own pockets. You don't earn BFG tokens if you play live casino either, they don't want people playing since blackjack and live casino games can kill their dividend pool.

Their user count is over inflated as you guys already know.

They been saying they'll list their tokens for almost a year now and still nothing.

Everything is a lie.

⚠️ 2% house edge
⚠️ Terrible slot providers
⚠️ Unlicensed casino

[aryacrypt0]

Hello bitcoin community and betfury manager,

Give me one good reason why betfury, goosebet and others are not a ponzi schemes...

1. they are centralized
2. they are anonymous
3. they can't be held accountable
4. they are hoping new members provide liquidity to a dividend pool that pays existing holders
5. transactions are recorded off-chain
6. who knows where the bitcoin that is deposited goes too
7. when mining gets expensive, players are not going to have an incentive to gamble there and the the pool dries up they will exit scam
8. why are betfury and goosebet soo similar in it's whitepaper/business model? (same company perhaps)

betfury manager - how can you address this?

bitcoin community -  how are most of ya'll legendary members and are not seeing that this is some sort of new scheme by anonymous gaming operators?

Greetings!
First of all the way of interaction with users in the gaming community due to staking payments and behavior mining is not a novelty in the world of crypto gambling. We have said more than once that dividends are one of the platform's features.
Secondly, there are many different scams and "ponzi schemes" on the Internet. None of them is not developing a global ecosystem, not working on the implementation of its own product, not partnering with global providers, and is not working on obtaining a license. During this year we have proved that we are not a one-year project.
Thirdly, Goosebet and others tried to copy the elements of the website, our whitepaper, our staking system, even our stickers. We kindly ask the community to not associate us with them.

I understand that you have a product and I also understand that y'all are a team that is working on the project as best as you can. Great website by the way. I am thinking about investing, but I have these concerns...(the people on here that is defending a product without asking the tough questions are the ones that's going to complain when they lose there investment)

1. you have been saying your going to get a license since last year, what happened?

2. why aren't people mining a token that's on a blockchain with a smart contract that says the more you play the more tokens will be mined? why are we suppose to trust your company in issuing out a token instead of actually mining it ourselves?

[aryacrypt0]

I'm not asking these questions to accuse you of something, im asking these questions so that i can invest. I really like the web app. it's professionally made and so far everything works really good

[babygun]

Greetings!
Cashback is calculated from all your gaming activity during one period according to the formula:
Cashback amount=(your deposited lost coins in one game period)*cashback%.

❗️Note that coins for winnings, dividends, Jackpots are not involved in the Cashback accrual.

Hey Betfury , yeah I know exactly how it works but still sometimes it's doing the calculations wrong ( not always )
for example my cashback is 8% and during this period I made only 1 BTT bet which lost ( 849211 BTT) , cashback should be showing 67936.88 BTT but instead it's showing 63176.9342 BTT

Just want to come back to this, has this been resolved?

I'm not asking these questions to accuse you of something, im asking these questions so that i can invest. I really like the web app. it's professionally made and so far everything works really good

Why not start with a small amount to invest? Than you can test them out fully. I browsed the topic and there are some legendary members on here playing on betfury and they seem to be quite happy.
Also in the roadmap of Betfury you can find all the features that are planned (also when they aim to acquire their license).

[qory]

I'm not asking these questions to accuse you of something, im asking these questions so that i can invest. I really like the web app. it's professionally made and so far everything works really good

That's a good questions and I don't think anyone will think that you were accusing them. As a possible investor you have the right to ask this questions since you will be risking your money to them I was also planning to get some BFG since they have really high dividends.

[NotATether]

@BetFury.io

I think that your mobile site needs performance improvements, currently it’s not possible to browse it on iOS without using a lot of power, which drains my battery. It is also difficult to scroll though because tapping some area to swipe it actually s lefts it instead.

There may be other problems too but these are the first ones I noticed before the site became unusable for me. Maybe they affect Android too.

[iv4n]

Halloween draw with 50k euros prize pool looks awesome! I have more than 300 tickets for now, I will try to make more, just two more days left! What I would like to see is the list of participants and how many tickets others have, for me it's nice to keep track of that, when roobet have something similar (and they often have it with play'n'go slots with 20k prize pool) they provide more info about participants!
Is there anyone else from here that have some tickets for this spinomenal slots promotion?

[talonpower]

i passed on info to have a few friends join  but they have some concerns as well

i gambled heavy on a few other sites and had to stop  but site looks promising

my neighbor has been trying to reach them on first reddit and then that page disappeared  and twitter  and they dont respond

so for a person who does not like or use telegram how the heck you supposed to get support?

he hasn't gotten cashback since like the 19th he showed me,  he has went up 200+  bfg and  10 levels since then approx.  but not 1 satoshi of cashback  showing  "0" each time it comes around to the days to get cashback, but still nothing

he does not use bitcoin talk either he just likes to gamble,  but i looked too and where is the support page?   no one is ever in the "chat"  so its quite alarming.  i know in past  when i would lose .5 - 1  BTC over a glitch i would have been freaking out if no responses  or a mod or someone to talk to on site.

NOT calling this a scam etc just looking to find a way to help my buddy i got into this out

[fishbonez11]

I'm not asking these questions to accuse you of something, im asking these questions so that i can invest. I really like the web app. it's professionally made and so far everything works really good

That's a good questions and I don't think anyone will think that you were accusing them. As a possible investor you have the right to ask this questions since you will be risking your money to them I was also planning to get some BFG since they have really high dividends.

I agree with this, this forum is created to help us know and discern more where we are putting our investment. Before putting money, I make sure that I have reduced the risk by reading more of the project. We cant deny that risk is unavoidable but atleast we have lessen the chance on bumping to a wrong game.

[Manager BetFury]

Hello bitcoin community and betfury manager,

Give me one good reason why betfury, goosebet and others are not a ponzi schemes...

1. they are centralized
2. they are anonymous
3. they can't be held accountable
4. they are hoping new members provide liquidity to a dividend pool that pays existing holders
5. transactions are recorded off-chain
6. who knows where the bitcoin that is deposited goes too
7. when mining gets expensive, players are not going to have an incentive to gamble there and the the pool dries up they will exit scam
8. why are betfury and goosebet soo similar in it's whitepaper/business model? (same company perhaps)

betfury manager - how can you address this?

bitcoin community -  how are most of ya'll legendary members and are not seeing that this is some sort of new scheme by anonymous gaming operators?

I agree with you! They said they'd get a license last year and they still don't have it. Not many here know what shady things Betfury did last year in the first couple months they launched. Here is what I mentioned previously!

I just want to first say, I've been following this thread for awhile and the community have been doing a great job sniffing out their LIES about their inflated numbers. I've created this account to share my experience. I'm going to expose everything about them and why you shouldn't trust them. I was a week 1 investor when they first launched their casino, I stopped investing after I found out they manipulate their dividend pool. They would unfreeze and freeze their tokens to stabilize their dividends. They had a fixed number APR and ROI, just how they have now to lure/manipulate newbies that don't know how to calculate these numbers for their investment. The APR/ROI was over inflated and never changed(just like now as well). Many investors warned them if they kept unfreezing their tokens, they'll eventually run out of money to support the casino and will have to freeze their tokens which will hurt investors. They had at least 70-80% of their tokens unfrozen to stabilize dividends. Many investors asked if they will freeze their tokens and the answer was always no for almost 2 months. After MANY promises to investors they had no plans to freeze their tokens, on CHRISTMAS DAY, WITHOUT any warning, they froze 80% their tokens! This burnt many investors who invested thousands of dollars.

Here are some user proof
https://i.imgur.com/b7TTQT2m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HuGcbsGm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WCnth4em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lGq80Xhm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/whtPSX4m.jpg

When they first launched Betfury 2.0, the dividend page already showed a 450% APR and like a 60 Day ROI, how did they get this number before ANY PROFIT? It's a lie, they just make up numbers to look like an attractive investment.

They used to have a 1.5% house edge, they changed it to 2%. They mentioned they changed the edge so they have more money to fill up the dividend and jackpot pool. This means they don't care about their gamblers, they don't want gamblers to win. All they care about is mining to feed their own pockets. You don't earn BFG tokens if you play live casino either, they don't want people playing since blackjack and live casino games can kill their dividend pool.

Their user count is over inflated as you guys already know.

They been saying they'll list their tokens for almost a year now and still nothing.

Everything is a lie.

⚠️ 2% house edge
⚠️ Terrible slot providers
⚠️ Unlicensed casino

Hello, fsgambler1!

Our platform will be 1-year old on November 3, so we couldn't promise something about the license in the previous year (due to the fact that in 2019 we worked only 2 months). As soon as we started working in this direction, the real terms were prescribed in the roadmap. The license obtaining process is on the way and the Curacao license should be received by the end of 2020.

Regarding token freezing by the team in late 2019. It's not a secret for anyone that in the process of mining 1 BFG token by a user, 1 token is mined for the platform. When a token freeze was available on the platform in order to receive dividends,  it was decided not to freeze some of the platform's tokens for supporting our community and paying out the promising APR and keep it stable. This decision was aimed to support early investors and pay them out even from the team's side part tokens. We took a step towards users, leaving ourselves approx 20% of 50%, that not even cover operational expenses.

Of course, this could not last forever, because a large team is working on the existence of the platform. When our costs became critical, we returned the freeze of our tokens and explained in detail the team decision in telegram chat with a transparent message to the community.

Besides that, the team filled TRX, USDT, BTT pools not even 1 time to provide better ROI for investors, and of course, those funds came from the team side.

House edge on Dice was increased from 1.5% -> to 2% in purposes of covering tournaments, giveaways, and other activities BetFury delivers constantly.

Those who realized how we treat users have remained faithful to us and continue to earn using new opportunities on BetFury.

[vangocash]

I like very much this project and  allready i am taking every days dividents from BFG tokens. I believe in success of this site and i am trying to invest while i am gambling.

[Pamadar]

I'm not asking these questions to accuse you of something, im asking these questions so that i can invest. I really like the web app. it's professionally made and so far everything works really good

That's a good questions and I don't think anyone will think that you were accusing them. As a possible investor you have the right to ask this questions since you will be risking your money to them I was also planning to get some BFG since they have really high dividends.

I agree with this, this forum is created to help us know and discern more where we are putting our investment. Before putting money, I make sure that I have reduced the risk by reading more of the project. We cant deny that risk is unavoidable but atleast we have lessen the chance on bumping to a wrong game.

Correct, the sole purpose of this forum is to share information to avoid getting scammed.

Developers needs to understand that and for sure with  what you have said they will be there to answer this question and they will provide the answer that best suits to your queries. It's a good way to discuss info and to also inform every investors who also seek for same questions in their minds.

[Crypt0g4mbl3r]

Hello bitcoin community and betfury manager,

Give me one good reason why betfury, goosebet and others are not a ponzi schemes...

1. they are centralized
2. they are anonymous
3. they can't be held accountable
4. they are hoping new members provide liquidity to a dividend pool that pays existing holders
5. transactions are recorded off-chain
6. who knows where the bitcoin that is deposited goes too
7. when mining gets expensive, players are not going to have an incentive to gamble there and the the pool dries up they will exit scam
8. why are betfury and goosebet soo similar in it's whitepaper/business model? (same company perhaps)

betfury manager - how can you address this?

bitcoin community -  how are most of ya'll legendary members and are not seeing that this is some sort of new scheme by anonymous gaming operators?

I agree with you! They said they'd get a license last year and they still don't have it. Not many here know what shady things Betfury did last year in the first couple months they launched. Here is what I mentioned previously!

I just want to first say, I've been following this thread for awhile and the community have been doing a great job sniffing out their LIES about their inflated numbers. I've created this account to share my experience. I'm going to expose everything about them and why you shouldn't trust them. I was a week 1 investor when they first launched their casino, I stopped investing after I found out they manipulate their dividend pool. They would unfreeze and freeze their tokens to stabilize their dividends. They had a fixed number APR and ROI, just how they have now to lure/manipulate newbies that don't know how to calculate these numbers for their investment. The APR/ROI was over inflated and never changed(just like now as well). Many investors warned them if they kept unfreezing their tokens, they'll eventually run out of money to support the casino and will have to freeze their tokens which will hurt investors. They had at least 70-80% of their tokens unfrozen to stabilize dividends. Many investors asked if they will freeze their tokens and the answer was always no for almost 2 months. After MANY promises to investors they had no plans to freeze their tokens, on CHRISTMAS DAY, WITHOUT any warning, they froze 80% their tokens! This burnt many investors who invested thousands of dollars.

Here are some user proof
https://i.imgur.com/b7TTQT2m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HuGcbsGm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WCnth4em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lGq80Xhm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/whtPSX4m.jpg

When they first launched Betfury 2.0, the dividend page already showed a 450% APR and like a 60 Day ROI, how did they get this number before ANY PROFIT? It's a lie, they just make up numbers to look like an attractive investment.

They used to have a 1.5% house edge, they changed it to 2%. They mentioned they changed the edge so they have more money to fill up the dividend and jackpot pool. This means they don't care about their gamblers, they don't want gamblers to win. All they care about is mining to feed their own pockets. You don't earn BFG tokens if you play live casino either, they don't want people playing since blackjack and live casino games can kill their dividend pool.

Their user count is over inflated as you guys already know.

They been saying they'll list their tokens for almost a year now and still nothing.

Everything is a lie.

⚠️ 2% house edge
⚠️ Terrible slot providers
⚠️ Unlicensed casino

Week 1 Investor! So you have been receiving dividends for a year, should have easily ROIed and all dividends you receive from here on are pure profit! The token will also value when its listed and you really feel the need to create an account to try slander Betfury.

Doesn't surprise me though as I see you playing at a competing casino.

[Norkys.2020]

Hello guys, I really like how the project is going, the site is wonderful and I have a lot of fun there, I would like to know if you have thought about promoting the site more by doing live broadcasts and giving rewards to your followers, just like stake does. .com, is a form of interaction with the client and makes them feel at home.

[Manager BetFury]

Hello guys, I really like how the project is going, the site is wonderful and I have a lot of fun there, I would like to know if you have thought about promoting the site more by doing live broadcasts and giving rewards to your followers, just like stake does. .com, is a form of interaction with the client and makes them feel at home.

Hello! We have several streamers and they showing the possibilities of playing on the platform. In the near future, we plan to develop cooperation with influencers, so we are sure you will hear more about us on streaming platforms.

[talonpower]

can you please respond why or how we can do support issues ??

your reddit has been banned it says
https://www.reddit.com/user/BetFury_io/

and you do not answer on twitter

I refuse to use telegram because then you get spammed on there

 

[amGigolo]

apparently not the only one it is happening to

https://twitter.com/HammerHeadDown/status/1323421161032716289