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I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago. Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality. I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead. I'm increasing my domain development, so maybe it is just that I'm spending more time on the net, and getting impatient. Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?
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September 19, 2020, 01:19:53 PM |
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We're certainly very far from the 2017 levels, there's probably fewer bounties and stuff now too to keep people here.
I'm expecting a pot of people had ambition to start something new and then decided to put it off until tomorrow and then do that every day - I was meant to send an email in March and I'm still working on it...
I always think, whenever there's a slowdown, there's normally an advantage for people bullish on cryptocurrency to start projects and start building stuff without an immonant crash or ensuing fomo.
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September 19, 2020, 01:53:26 PM |
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The covid 19 lockdown has made people available and free, social media activities would be the one rising now, people linking up more because they have become more available than they used to be.
Ponzi schemes and it likes has increased and interest has shifted towards it -foolishly aim to use the covid19 lockdown to earn that way-.
But acknowledging that, also we would appreciate the activities we have been getting, some/more has been of gain. If covid 19 lockdown has reduced spam posters, it's fine. In between I pray we haven't and won't lose good posters.
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September 19, 2020, 01:54:21 PM |
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We're certainly very far from the 2017 levels, there's probably fewer bounties and stuff now too to keep people here.
There are more than enough bounties there but they are not enough worthy to join. Very few bounties hit listing nowadays and even if they get listed, the payment is too low. This has been the regular scenerio of bounty since late 2018 which can be a reason of getting activity reduced. Regarding quality, I think very few people are here with the motivation of learning about bitcoin, crypto, building business on crypto etc. Most people are motivated with the financial gain. That's why there is lack if quality discussion.
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September 19, 2020, 02:09:29 PM |
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Until the next full bull run it will remain slow. When bitcoin blasts past 20k along with a lot of the top alts breaking ath the media will be all over it again and pumpers and whales will be back to feast.
I also do not think this forum is as attractive to absolute noobs to snatch some chances as it was previously. That was probably a necessity but I dont know if you will ever see activity here like in the last 2 bulls.
Institutional interest and activity will not pass through this board.
I would love to see this forum peak again or exceed the old peeks of activity but how to juggle the chaos and retain some quality and credibility is a tough one.
For bitcoin it will not matter for non top 20alts that could be a big problem. They may not get the exposure this board has provided in the past. I think the gold rush days are behind us.
I hope I'm wrong and this forum blasts past old records and some great alts that have been forgotten get some needed exposure. Lets see. I dont like other mediums out there and this forum could still be a great community if the right people were to return.
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September 19, 2020, 02:19:17 PM |
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Jet Cash, I've definitely noticed this and when there was a thread bumped recently about the 1-merit requirement for Jr. Member status, I posted that I thought I might have been losing interest in the forum--but it's not that. There's been a lot less activity on the forum lately, and I've noticed it in Meta and Reputation (two of my favorite sections). I don't know what happened. Are there fewer bounties/signature campaigns these days? Maybe members find ranking up too hard and thus can't earn much in sig campaigns? We all know how much bitcointalk's traffic depends on bounty hunters/campaigners. I have Services on ignore--and the bounty section, too--so I haven't had a sense of whether there have been as many of them available to members as there were in, say, 2017. There are more than enough bounties there but they are not enough worthy to join. Very few bounties hit listing nowadays and even if they get listed, the payment is too low.
Yeah, but hasn't that always been the case with bounties? I don't think any of that ever stopped financially desperate members from participating in them before. Regarding quality, I think very few people are here with the motivation of learning about bitcoin, crypto, building business on crypto etc. Most people are motivated with the financial gain. That's why there is lack if quality discussion.
That's always been true, at least for the entire time I've been a member here. There has to be another reason or reasons.
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September 19, 2020, 02:22:35 PM |
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We're certainly very far from the 2017 levels, there's probably fewer bounties and stuff now too to keep people here.
There are more than enough bounties there but they are not enough worthy to join. Very few bounties hit listing nowadays and even if they get listed, the payment is too low. This has been the regular scenerio of bounty since late 2018 which can be a reason of getting activity reduced. Regarding quality, I think very few people are here with the motivation of learning about bitcoin, crypto, building business on crypto etc. Most people are motivated with the financial gain. That's why there is lack if quality discussion. This is the main reason why there is reduction in the number of posters in this forum. Maybe, others have an alternative way to earn in cryptocurrency while others have stopped following crypto because bounty campaigns nowadays are not worthy and just a waste of time. Quality posting is still exercise in forum, there are still campaigners or posters which are eager to post quality reply or threads. We just admit that financial gain is part of the motivation that drives every user in forum.
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September 19, 2020, 02:38:08 PM |
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It's probably because they are already tired. Countless efforts on participating on different bounties but will not receive any good amount of profit from their work. Who's not gonna get tired if this kind of a not so good faith keep happens to you? Bounties that are not worth to put any effort keeps on popping, no good return on the bounty hunter leading them to a conclusion to leave this crypto space.
I really hope that some worthy bounty to come up and atleast give those bounty hunters what they deserved.
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Definitely noticed this too in the past few weeks. It became a habit for me to refresh certain subforums that I'm interested in, and I'm frequently ever-so-slightly disappointed to not see a new decent topic posted.
If my memory serves me right though, I think we had a decent spike up in activity in the first few weeks of the lockdowns? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I guess a lot of people also arrived in 2017-2018 because BTC was seriously hyped and "new" or "unknown" to many people - call it FOMO if you want. Even though current prices of BTC (and altcoins) are doing fine, interest seems to slow down (edit: or stabilize), and I think it's quite simply because the period of "hype" has made place for a period of "oh bitcoin, wasn't that a thing of the previous decade?". ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I guess you're expecting too much of people's general attention span, JC. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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September 19, 2020, 03:23:45 PM |
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I have noticed a drop in activity over the past months, although I think it could be a case of me finding fewer threads that interest me in the boards I frequently visit. I looked at https://sitechecker.pro/traffic-checker/ to monitor the traffic on the forum over the last 6 months; can't confirm how accurate the chart is, but it shows an increase in traffic from last month after a drop between May and June; ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF4GVwMp.png&t=665&c=2qiKtq5IKKIHuA) If the chart is accurate, I would assume there was a spike in activity before May in anticipation for the halving and most people lost interest after that, as there was minimal change in price, leading to the drop in activity (this also coincides with the onset of lockdown in many countries as suggested by @mk4 above). The current spike in traffic (last updated in August) could be a result of increased interest from institutional investors, such as the microstrategy purchase. The public may be getting bullish again about Bitcoin and renewing interest in it.
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It's probably because they are already tired. Countless efforts on participating on different bounties but will not receive any good amount of profit from their work. Who's not gonna get tired if this kind of a not so good faith keep happens to you? Bounties that are not worth to put any effort keeps on popping, no good return on the bounty hunter leading them to a conclusion to leave this crypto space.
I really hope that some worthy bounty to come up and atleast give those bounty hunters what they deserved.
Frankly speaking, participation in bounty campaigns was not limited to one account in the past. Each bounty hunter had several alternatives. Today, bounty requirements have become tough, and a lot of people on the forum are tracking cheating. From here, you can calculate the real number of people that could have been on the forum in the past, if by that time you apply today's conditions.
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September 19, 2020, 03:32:38 PM |
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I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead.
This inevitable mate. Some users are probably busy enjoying themselves by doing netflix and other fun stuff on the web. Also I think, the lack of signature campaign opened make some users bit lazy. To be honest this is one of the reason that a user post frequently and we do seldom find some users posting without signature. Also you can say they are busy playing on uniswap with a lot of shitcoins around investing on defi shitcoins that can go to the moon.
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September 19, 2020, 03:33:50 PM |
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I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago.
Actively does not equal to same or better quality. Sometimes it cause worse things like what forum has circa 2017 and lasted till nearly end of January 2018 when merit system was kicked off. Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality.
I agree with you on this, totally. They created threads probably to beg for merit. Honestly, chances to earn merits nowadays are much easier than in 2018 and before May or June of 2019. Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?
How do you define your active variable? From data, for last 2 months and a half, levels of activities -- for new posts, topics, members daily, are very stable. I don't have data for previous period so that I can not compare. At least you did not provide which period you want to compare current activity with. Sources: Raw data for period from 01/7/2020 to 19/9/2020In the plot, I used multiplier at 10 for n_mem, n_topics to have better comparative plot. +----------------------------------------+ | date n_mem n_topics n_posts | |----------------------------------------| 1. | 01jul2020 . . . | 2. | 02jul2020 333 184 5551 | 3. | 03jul2020 393 164 5523 | 4. | 04jul2020 421 178 5532 | 5. | 05jul2020 335 135 5091 | |----------------------------------------| 6. | 06jul2020 316 85 5585 | 7. | 07jul2020 501 148 5300 | 8. | 08jul2020 391 172 6368 | 9. | 09jul2020 361 202 6724 | 10. | 10jul2020 418 133 6448 | |----------------------------------------| 11. | 11jul2020 417 82 6455 | 12. | 12jul2020 361 123 6025 | 13. | 13jul2020 277 111 6377 | 14. | 14jul2020 369 166 6615 | 15. | 15jul2020 404 154 7369 | |----------------------------------------| 16. | 16jul2020 437 158 7049 | 17. | 17jul2020 398 176 6929 | 18. | 18jul2020 398 136 6500 | 19. | 19jul2020 351 96 6228 | 20. | 20jul2020 471 151 7534 | |----------------------------------------| 21. | 21jul2020 384 153 6698 | 22. | 22jul2020 399 155 6870 | 23. | 23jul2020 376 176 6511 | 24. | 24jul2020 345 100 6567 | 25. | 25jul2020 372 166 6532 | |----------------------------------------| 26. | 26jul2020 312 130 6262 | 27. | 27jul2020 286 145 6948 | 28. | 28jul2020 388 59 6536 | 29. | 29jul2020 382 175 6773 | 30. | 30jul2020 391 171 6403 | |----------------------------------------| 31. | 31jul2020 402 196 6175 | 32. | 01aug2020 401 69 6810 | 33. | 02aug2020 320 135 5925 | 34. | 03aug2020 325 132 6523 | 35. | 04aug2020 355 118 6000 | |----------------------------------------| 36. | 05aug2020 422 141 6316 | 37. | 06aug2020 423 161 5606 | 38. | 07aug2020 445 127 5929 | 39. | 08aug2020 419 114 6577 | 40. | 09aug2020 356 90 6068 | |----------------------------------------| 41. | 10aug2020 660 123 6413 | 42. | 11aug2020 635 58 5968 | 43. | 12aug2020 490 183 6147 | 44. | 13aug2020 390 187 6381 | 45. | 14aug2020 407 144 6398 | |----------------------------------------| 46. | 15aug2020 352 150 6820 | 47. | 16aug2020 313 132 6227 | 48. | 17aug2020 312 111 6370 | 49. | 18aug2020 352 184 6414 | 50. | 19aug2020 443 187 6475 | |----------------------------------------| 51. | 20aug2020 349 155 6089 | 52. | 21aug2020 327 132 6414 | 53. | 22aug2020 353 131 6689 | 54. | 23aug2020 344 173 6101 | 55. | 24aug2020 284 85 6533 | |----------------------------------------| 56. | 25aug2020 424 177 6100 | 57. | 26aug2020 420 137 6203 | 58. | 27aug2020 386 176 6299 | 59. | 28aug2020 403 218 6062 | 60. | 29aug2020 333 110 6247 | |----------------------------------------| 61. | 30aug2020 494 150 5826 | 62. | 31aug2020 327 150 6460 | 63. | 01sep2020 446 172 6064 | 64. | 02sep2020 510 215 7628 | 65. | 03sep2020 471 144 6897 | |----------------------------------------| 66. | 04sep2020 445 77 6659 | 67. | 05sep2020 376 67 7460 | 68. | 06sep2020 311 94 6470 | 69. | 07sep2020 416 -46 6678 | 70. | 08sep2020 485 175 6662 | |----------------------------------------| 71. | 09sep2020 469 170 6799 | 72. | 10sep2020 426 130 6366 | 73. | 11sep2020 377 91 6593 | 74. | 12sep2020 464 73 6712 | 75. | 13sep2020 306 73 5776 | |----------------------------------------| 76. | 14sep2020 256 22 6206 | 77. | 15sep2020 307 166 5943 | 78. | 16sep2020 455 135 6312 | 79. | 17sep2020 411 106 6107 | 80. | 18sep2020 454 105 5961 | |----------------------------------------| 81. | 19sep2020 484 167 6529 | +----------------------------------------+
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I would have thought that people would have been interested in ways to earn money online, and that is why I started my domaining thread in serious discussion. I've only had one intelligent reply, and one for my regular troll, who I have on ignore. I'm assuming that is an ill informed attack on me,but of course I haven't read it. I guess it was handy though, as it bumped the thread, and allowed me to post without having consecutive posts.
We are in a period of massive change, and this forum seems to be focused on crypto and defi. Well that is understandable, but there are many more changes, and new business opportunities. My example domain is intended to take advantage of the increase in guard dogs and associated services resulting from housing repossessions, and civil unrest, but there are many other niches. One of the strangest in my opinion is the "flights to nowhere". You book a seat on a flight that is basically a round trip which lands back in the airport of departure. I suppose that it is an aerial mystery sight seeing tour. I'm surprised that the greenies haven't jumped all over that concept.
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From a local board point of view it’s definitively palpable. The Spanish Local board counts amongst its assets with a dozen or so accounts that create content there with some regularity. As of late, the dozen has dropped to a handful (regular type hand, or hexadactyly at best), and that has it’s noticeable effect over there. I barely notice new accounts there that are not simpleton shillers. I thought it was just a summertime thing, but the trend seems to persist for now. In general terms, local board net post count looks like this: https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/PostCountEvolution?:language=es&:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link
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September 19, 2020, 03:50:28 PM |
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I thought that it's always better to use the number of online members in the forum rather than seeing the post count, new topics, new members, etc. Maybe that could form a better perspective on it. Maybe a lot of people as well have been focusing on other things that is necessary for them to continue on living especially with the economy today and just read. When I'm AFK and on my mobile phone, I mostly read topics but too lazy to type on my phone because I'm slower compared to keyboard typing. Maybe it's just me, lol. It's also possible that since you have been more exposed to the forum (spending more time on the net) that you think that the activity lessened but in reality, you just noticed it more but it's still the same. Maybe tranthidung could provide also the members online or something. For additional data and variable.
I would have thought that people would have been interested in ways to earn money online, and that is why I started my domaining thread in serious discussion. It's definitely the aim of people now but what I think what hinders them is themselves. they want it fast or just too lazy to do it and doesn't believe much that you could earn money online.
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September 19, 2020, 04:03:31 PM |
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- Same data above, but I played a bit and categorised them by weeks.
- No multiplier in those plots.
- Statistics fluctuate but not actually in a downtrend (as shown by the time-series plot in previous post)
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September 19, 2020, 05:06:13 PM |
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I'm starting to notice that several forums, including Bitcoin Talk, are not as active as they were a while ago. Also many of the threads and posts seem to be of lower quality. I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead. I'm increasing my domain development, so maybe it is just that I'm spending more time on the net, and getting impatient. Has anyone else noticed a slowdown?
I also noticed exactly the same thing and I would agree with you. Sometimes I have really hard time finding some good quality topic or discussion to join. Post quality is way lower than usual, maybe because of multiple things like covid or some people just don't use forums like before, and they switched to telegram and twitter. Maybe it is time to shake things up and change some forum rules.
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I would have thought that the lock downs would have increased activity, but maybe people are playing games and watching Netflix instead. Maybe they used to use the forum in quiet hours in the office, and now they're stuck working from home with the kids around. This must be valid for at least some people, I have a hard time being productive when they're around. I thought that it's always better to use the number of online members in the forum rather than seeing the post count I check active users occasionally, and I didn't keep exact records, but it seems to be quite stable. they switched to telegram and twitter. And Discord. I don't like either one of those platforms. It's all just a big flow of messages without the structure of different boards and topics.
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