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Are you making this conclusion from the same Twitter account posted? Image someone else is posing your twitter address and you already posted this same twitter address in the forum. Will that connect your account with that other guy?
PS: In the forum one can have more than one account. It's nothing against the rules.
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September 20, 2020, 01:44:03 PM |
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Are you making this conclusion from the same Twitter account posted? Image someone else is posing your twitter address and you already posted this same twitter address in the forum. Will that connect your account with that other guy?
PS: In the forum one can have more than one account. It's nothing against the rules.
Those two accounts are sharing more than twitter account, same LinkedIn and Facebook accounts are used too. Since Rkss4 has been tagged already for bounty abuse and is an older account that has been using those social media accounts for quite some time, it is pretty much safe to assume that MAK400 is his newest alt.
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Those two accounts are sharing more than twitter account, same LinkedIn and Facebook accounts are used too. Since Rkss4 has been tagged already and is an older account, it is pretty much safe to assume that MAK400 is his newest alt. Maybe they are connected but still you can not draw the line that they are owned by the same owner. My last example to BTC_Mouse still applies. Image someone else is posing your twitter address and you already posted this same twitter address in the forum. Will that connect your account with that other guy? Has account MAK400 broke any rules yet or better to say has he done anything that is red tag worthy?
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Most likely, this is different. Rkss4 account is marked with a red tag. By the way, his accusation is identical to this. To be honest, I see no reason to punish someone for having two accounts. If they don't register with the same company, then there is no crime. The owner is now creating another account as some bounty companies do not accept accounts with a red tag. And today it is inactive. OP your investigation could be moved to this topic. In order not to create dozens of topics for each case of searching for alternative accounts. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.0
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Possible: @ MAK400 & @ Rkss4, Alt account. If you take a look at the @ Rkss4 trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1710707They are linked here with a named Alt: @Kayum10029: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257493And here it's even worse: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg50270796#msg50270796Maybe: @MAK400, also a new Alt account @Rkss4.
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Maybe they are connected but still you can not draw the line that they are owned by the same owner. My last example to BTC_Mouse still applies.
Both of them are in the control of the same social media accounts. Mak4000 using LinkedIn account to share work for Space-iZbounty campaign. If he is not in the control of that LinkedIn account, how can he share those link of the campaign he is part of? Rss4 using same LinkedIn account to share work for PayAccept bounty campaign https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5255787.msg55064685#msg55064685Image someone else is posing your twitter address and you already posted this same twitter address in the forum. Will that connect your account with that other guy? Sure, if he just shares your twitter account that is not proof enough. But what if he is in the control of your twitter account too and shares work for bounty campaign? Question here is: is proven use of the same social media accounts proof enough that same person is behind both accounts?
Maybe: @MAK400, also a new Alt account @Rkss4.
To me it looks like that, because if he is not his alt account, how Mak400 has an access to same social media accounts used by Rkss4? If you check those accounts, you will see that Mak400 is sharing/retweeting from those accounts, he is not just passively sharing links of some inactive accounts like some scammers do.
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September 20, 2020, 02:23:50 PM |
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Fantastic! Now we are talking and this gives the evidence of both account are in the hand of same person. But the way it was posted by other users it as not enough to draw a conclusion. Question here is: is proven use of the same social media accounts proof enough that same person is behind both accounts? I see no question here to ask.
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Both of them are in the control of the same social media accounts.
Perhaps today you will create a new rule. Every day I come across many alternative accounts, one of which was previously marked with a red tag. What are the owners of these accounts doing? They just create a new account. And it's all. Until today, I have not met anyone with a red tag for this. By the way, I already asked about it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg54867987#msg54867987Maybe it's time to discuss this rule? I agree that we understand that the second accounts are created by the same people. That is, nothing changes. But since against the newly created accounts, I can't find any reason to flag them, I just post them to this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg55186652#msg55186652
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Say person X (not user) has an account which is "M". He scammed a user and got red tag and flag from the community for that. Now person X creates a new account which is "N". The account could be new or have not done anything yet but it's the person we count. Person X is a proven scammer and no matter what number of accounts he creates, he is still a scammer and all of his accounts should be red tagged and flagged as soon as it's public that the accounts are owned by person X. Think about ban evading. It's a person not to an account.
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Say person X (not user) has an account which is "M". He scammed a user and got red tag and flag from the community for that. Now person X creates a new account which is "N". The account could be new or have not done anything yet but it's the person we count. Person X is a proven scammer and no matter what number of accounts he creates, he is still a scammer and all of his accounts should be red tagged and flagged as soon as it's public that the accounts are owned by person X.
Think about ban evading. It's a person not to an account.
That was my understanding of this situation too, I had no idea that accounts are left untagged even if there is a solid proof that new account is an alt of previously tagged account, no matter the reason, whether it's ban evasion, bounty abuse or any other similar stuff. Having multiple accounts are allowed, but with that comes some responsibility too. I don't know if it's true or did I mix it up with something else, but isn't the proper way (or at least it should be) to deal with your own alt account to send neutral tag, so everyone is aware of that? Something like @LoyceV did with his alt LoyceMobile .
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That was my understanding of this situation too, I had no idea that accounts are left untagged even if there is a solid proof that new account is an alt of previously tagged account, no matter the reason, whether it's ban evasion, bounty abuse or any other similar stuff.
This is not entirely true. Accounts that were previously banned, that have alternatives, are also blocked by moderators. And it's kind of natural. But those who were previously marked with a red tag, creating a new account, calmly start a new life. And in my opinion, this is not entirely correct. After all, we understand that this is one and the same person. But everyone turns a blind eye to this.
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Having multiple accounts are allowed, but with that comes some responsibility too. I don't know if it's true or did I mix it up with something else, but isn't the proper way (or at least it should be) to deal with your own alt account to send neutral tag, so everyone is aware of that? Something like @LoyceV did with his alt LoyceMobile . That depends on the reason for making an alt. I wanted people to know LoyceMobile is not an imposter. When I created it, it took less than 2 hours to receive a PM from someone asking if it's an imposter. I wasn't at home when I made my first mobile post so there was no Neutral tag yet. If you don't want people to know for instance your political preference, you don't have to announce you own an account: I don't have a problem with alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. If you're hesitant to say something controversial because you don't want it to be associated with your name, please create an alt account and say it. Unfortunately, this is mainly used by trolls and scammers nowadays. Although it could be the legitimate users manage to keep their alt accounts under the radar.
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May 10, 2021, 08:09:13 AM |
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Adding more accounts connected to Rkss4 since the account woke up recently. The accounts are connected through mutually shared address that collects bounty tokens: Sihab76Kayum10029Tnt1971Nilakash1983A couple of these accounts are still active and one wasn't yet tagged, so I'm gonna take care of that. Been using a combination of TryNinja's address tool and Etherscan, which is basically a cheater killer.
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May 10, 2021, 10:52:24 AM |
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I've seen a few times where Twitter accounts have been sold and the unsuspecting second user is linked to the first user - I'm not saying that's the case here, but it's a little on the thin side to made connections due to one instance. If you want to learn to investigate alts with solid connections, come visit the Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III thread sometime.
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nutildah
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Thanks for the invitation.
I came back here to reveal my new revelation about account purchasing in general, which is this:
If someone is purchasing an account rather than starting their own, its because they want the benefits of the reputation of the account, without having to work to get it where it is. So, if there's something that the original account owner did that the new account owner doesn't know they're inheriting, well I'm sorry but they purchased that as well. If you pretend to be Ted Bundy because you want to get hired as a crime prevention consultant (a profession he actually held as a mass murderer), well I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to treat you like you're Ted Bundy.
Or something.
Anyway.
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May 10, 2021, 02:40:23 PM |
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Thanks for the invitation.
I came back here to reveal my new revelation about account purchasing in general, which is this:
If someone is purchasing an account rather than starting their own, its because they want the benefits of the reputation of the account, without having to work to get it where it is. So, if there's something that the original account owner did that the new account owner doesn't know they're inheriting, well I'm sorry but they purchased that as well. If you pretend to be Ted Bundy because you want to get hired as a crime prevention consultant (a profession he actually held as a mass murderer), well I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to treat you like you're Ted Bundy.
Or something.
Anyway.
So taking over one company by another and using its brand is a scam and a crime?
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May 10, 2021, 09:32:07 PM |
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So taking over one company by another and using its brand is a scam and a crime?
Yes, if the company is misrepresenting itself. The analogy doesn't really hold though because in the real world acquisitions don't take place because the parent company is planning on running a scam with the acquired company. Did you mean to post this message from this account? LOL.
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May 11, 2021, 12:43:41 AM |
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So taking over one company by another and using its brand is a scam and a crime?
You'll have to excuse @nutildah - sh/he/it thrives on attempting to gaslight others with rhetoric that becomes more transparent as a deception the more time sh/he/it replies. Most of us have wised up to the gas-lighting already and have them on ignore.
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May 14, 2021, 10:24:14 PM |
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What is the implications of the person having two accounts to join bounty, if the offence needs penalty some one give to the user, because disobeying rules and regulations of particular organization i think is not necessary and the person have some damage to pay, so from what i observed any matter have to treating accordingly, i will like to see or witness the end of this.
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