Islamic law is adopted by British legal chiefs

[hilariousandco]

Yes, because Subway is the only place in the UK which sells pork.
Oh, wait...

Jews have been to the United Kingdom for the past 1,000 years or so. Pork is a taboo food for them too. Yet I don't see any of them demanding that restaurants should serve Kosher food and they should refrain from serving pork... just saying. 

Also, there are close to a million Hindus in the UK, for whom beef is a taboo food. They are also not making any demands to ban restaurants which serve beef.

Most Muslims aren't calling for this either and most probably don't care as the majority just won't eat at the places that do, but of course you people will seize on the small but vocal militant minority. And Subway has done this of their own volition and are free to serve whatever they want whether you or anyone else disagrees with it.

They haven't suddenly 'banned' pork from 185 branches, there have been Halah branches for years, it is just that now someone has decided to publish a misleading story to stir up bigots.

Key point.

[murraypaul]

For example, in Cambridge:

There are 12 Subway stores in the Cambridge region - seven in Cambridge itself, two at Newmarket, one at St Neots. one at Haverhill and one at Huntingdon.
Only one of the 12, the Subway branch at 301-303 Mill Road in Cambridge, has become a halal store.

Is that really a terrible thing?
People who want Halal sandwiches can now buy them. People who want pork sandwiches can but them at one of the other 6 stores in Cambridge.

[5flags]

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...

The other day I saw Pamela Geller announce that there was no racism in the US. Admittedly, she is one of America's leading Islamophobes, but it was still fun to watch. Even more fun was the juxtaposition on the Daily Show:

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/5l1leo/the-amazing-racism---incredibly-not-racist-racists

I like the idea of the "incredibly not racist racists", would apply to many of the Islamophobic crowd on here.

[5flags]

I was on holiday in Yorkshire over the weekend. I popped into a very nice cafe to get some lunch. They served a variety of panini, and I asked if I could have Cheddar and chorizo. The lady was mortally offended as it was a strictly vegetarian establishment. In spite of the violation of my right to eat chorizo, I relented and went for a cheddar and Marmite panini. It was rather nice.

I suspect it was also halal. In fact much of the food we buy in our supermarkets is halal. Naturally, the Islamophobes will tell you this is "creeping Sharia".

[hilariousandco]

For example, in Cambridge:

There are 12 Subway stores in the Cambridge region - seven in Cambridge itself, two at Newmarket, one at St Neots. one at Haverhill and one at Huntingdon.
Only one of the 12, the Subway branch at 301-303 Mill Road in Cambridge, has become a halal store.

Is that really a terrible thing?
People who want Halal sandwiches can now buy them. People who want pork sandwiches can but them at one of the other 6 stores in Cambridge.

Yes because OMG MUSLAMS ARE TAKING OVER WITH DERE SYRIA LAW Y THEY GET MUR RYTES DAN US?!1!blah blah blah.

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It is a Myth...

The other day I saw Pamela Geller announce that there was no racism in the US. Admittedly, she is one of America's leading Islamophobes, but it was still fun to watch. Even more fun was the juxtaposition on the Daily Show:

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/5l1leo/the-amazing-racism---incredibly-not-racist-racists

I like the idea of the "incredibly not racist racists", would apply to many of the Islamophobic crowd on here.

Ha, thanks for that. I'm reminded of the type of people who start sentences with I'm not racist, but... then follow it up with something completely racist (or Islamaphobic (or bigoted if you think Islamaphobia doesn't exist  )).

[5flags]

And for general background and education (and poking fun at bigots):

http://www.loonwatch.com/

[hilariousandco]

I was on holiday in Yorkshire over the weekend. I popped into a very nice cafe to get some lunch. They served a variety of panini, and I asked if I could have Cheddar and chorizo. The lady was mortally offended as it was a strictly vegetarian establishment. In spite of the violation of my right to eat chorizo, I relented and went for a cheddar and Marmite panini. It was rather nice.

I suspect it was also halal. In fact much of the food we buy in our supermarkets is halal. Naturally, the Islamophobes will tell you this is "creeping Sharia".

Did you catch that meme that spawned a while ago after Tommy Robinson tweeted this:







Etc  .

[5flags]

My favourite Islamophobia meme was actually poking fun at Islamophobes: #MuslimRage

http://www.wired.com/2012/09/muslimrage/


I think my particular favourite was:

Orders pancakes at IHOP, came with a side of bacon. #MuslimRage

— Hamza Giron (@HamzaGiron) September 17, 2012

[Wilikon]

Is Sharia Laws above any nation's laws?

1) Yes

2) No

3) Asking this very question is islamophobic and makes you a bigot (i.e. someone who is not open to gay rights)



Bitcoin Sharia Laws compliant FTW Baby!!!! 

[murraypaul]

Is Sharia Laws above any nation's laws?
1) Yes

This is the closest to correct.
Religious laws are disjoint to national laws, because there are essentially optional.
They are 'above' in the sense or covering greater area/population than any single nation's laws, and in the sense of adding on to them, but not in the sense of removing them.
People must obey the laws of the country they live in, or be punished.
Religious people may choose to obey extra religious laws, but the legal system of the country they live in has no interest in whether they do or not.
Religious rules would be a better terms than religious laws.
If you want to choose not to eat pork, go ahead.

[5flags]

Is Sharia Laws above any nation's laws?

Is Jewish law above any nation's laws? What about Christian law? Hindu law?

What does "above" mean?

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

[Wilikon]

Is Sharia Laws above any nation's laws?

Is Jewish law above any nation's laws? What about Christian law? Hindu law?

What does "above" mean?

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

So your answer is (3) 

[5flags]

So your answer is (3) 

I think your bigotry was well established before you posted. At least when Bryant voices his support for Neo-Nazism he does so using his own name.

Can you answer my questions?

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

[Wilikon]

Is Sharia Laws above any nation's laws?
1) Yes

This is the closest to correct.
Religious laws are disjoint to national laws, because there are essentially optional.
They are 'above' in the sense or covering greater area/population than any single nation's laws, and in the sense of adding on to them, but not in the sense of removing them.
People must obey the laws of the country they live in, or be punished.
Religious people may choose to obey extra religious laws, but the legal system of the country they live in has no interest in whether they do or not.
Religious rules would be a better terms than religious laws.
If you want to choose not to eat pork, go ahead.

Thank you for participating. Yes I know jews and muslims who love their pepperoni pizza.
So as long as any religious groups makes the same distinction as you did, then it is upon the pious to follow its faith in parallel to a nation's law, but never above it.

[Wilikon]

So your answer is (3) 

I think your bigotry was well established before you posted. At least when Bryant voices his support for Neo-Nazism he does so using his own name.

Can you answer my questions?

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

This is an open thread used as a vehicle to try to understand each other. The more you participate, the more I understand.

You are free to use your own name if you want

[hilariousandco]

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

This is usually it. Has Wilikon started many threads with an anti-Christian agenda? I don't really have a problem with people being intolerant of religions, just as long as they're intolerant of them all or treat them with an equal amount of disrespect  , but singling out just Islam is a little cliche, and we all know there's an agenda under the surface.

So your answer is (3)  

I think your bigotry was well established before you posted. At least when Bryant voices his support for Neo-Nazism he does so using his own name.

Where has he voiced this, and are you sure Bryant Coleman is his real name?  

[Wilikon]

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

This is usually it. Has Wilikon started many threads with an anti-Christian agenda? I don't really have a problem with people being intolerant of religions, just as long as they're intolerant of them all or treat them with an equal amount of disrespect  , but singling out just Islam is a little cliche, and we all know there's an agenda under the surface.

So your answer is (3)  

I think your bigotry was well established before you posted. At least when Bryant voices his support for Neo-Nazism he does so using his own name.

Where has he voiced this, and are you sure Bryant Coleman is his real name?  

But isn't as cliché to start a thread about Christianity too? I am just here to bring a bit of... fair and balance... 


Should bitcoin wiki allow links to christian religious services?
22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution (my thread, thank you very much)
I found a Christian I actually agree with
History of Christianity
Christian school complains 8-year-old girl isn't girly enough

[hilariousandco]

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

This is usually it. Has Wilikon started many threads with an anti-Christian agenda? I don't really have a problem with people being intolerant of religions, just as long as they're intolerant of them all or treat them with an equal amount of disrespect  , but singling out just Islam is a little cliche, and we all know there's an agenda under the surface.

So your answer is (3)  

I think your bigotry was well established before you posted. At least when Bryant voices his support for Neo-Nazism he does so using his own name.

Where has he voiced this, and are you sure Bryant Coleman is his real name?  

But isn't as cliché to start a thread about Christianity too? I am just here to bring a bit of... fair and balance... 


Should bitcoin wiki allow links to christian religious services?
22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution (my thread, thank you very much)
I found a Christian I actually agree with
History of Christianity
Christian school complains 8-year-old girl isn't girly enough

But usually there isn’t much fair and balance. And I was just using Christianity as an example, but feel free to start them about any and all religions, not just Christianity and Islam.

[Wilikon]

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

This is usually it. Has Wilikon started many threads with an anti-Christian agenda? I don't really have a problem with people being intolerant of religions, just as long as they're intolerant of them all or treat them with an equal amount of disrespect  , but singling out just Islam is a little cliche, and we all know there's an agenda under the surface.

So your answer is (3)  

I think your bigotry was well established before you posted. At least when Bryant voices his support for Neo-Nazism he does so using his own name.

Where has he voiced this, and are you sure Bryant Coleman is his real name?  

But isn't as cliché to start a thread about Christianity too? I am just here to bring a bit of... fair and balance... 


Should bitcoin wiki allow links to christian religious services?
22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution (my thread, thank you very much)
I found a Christian I actually agree with
History of Christianity
Christian school complains 8-year-old girl isn't girly enough

But usually there isn’t much fair and balance. And I was just using Christianity as an example, but feel free to start them about any and all religions, not just Christianity and Islam.

I am free to start any thread I want... as long as our Gods, the Bitcointalk Gods, the only ones that count here, allow this to be the case. But even them have to face an FBI investigation if any of us, Ohh! Devout Bitcoin believers would commit any kind of criminal acts. So technically the name "Wilikon" would not protect me as I am not behind a 1000 proxies and other VPN.

Seriously though only threads about the religions of Christianity and Islam bring the bacon, err... I meant the moolah in passionate replies 

[hilariousandco]

Does your bigotry extend to followers of any form of mysticism? Just Muslims? Just those with brown skin? Is it the beards? Their scary halal foods? Help us understand your fear so that we might help you overcome it.

This is usually it. Has Wilikon started many threads with an anti-Christian agenda? I don't really have a problem with people being intolerant of religions, just as long as they're intolerant of them all or treat them with an equal amount of disrespect  , but singling out just Islam is a little cliche, and we all know there's an agenda under the surface.

So your answer is (3)  

I think your bigotry was well established before you posted. At least when Bryant voices his support for Neo-Nazism he does so using his own name.

Where has he voiced this, and are you sure Bryant Coleman is his real name?  

But isn't as cliché to start a thread about Christianity too? I am just here to bring a bit of... fair and balance... 


Should bitcoin wiki allow links to christian religious services?
22 Messages From Creationists To People Who Believe In Evolution (my thread, thank you very much)
I found a Christian I actually agree with
History of Christianity
Christian school complains 8-year-old girl isn't girly enough

But usually there isn’t much fair and balance. And I was just using Christianity as an example, but feel free to start them about any and all religions, not just Christianity and Islam.

I am free to start any thread I want... as long as our Gods, the Bitcointalk Gods, the only ones that count here, allow this to be the case. But even them have to face an FBI investigation if any of us, Ohh! Devout Bitcoin believers would commit any kind of criminal acts. So technically the name "Wilikon" would not protect me as I am not behind a 1000 proxies and other VPN.

Seriously though only threads about the religions of Christianity and Islam bring the bacon, err... I meant the moolah in passionate replies 

Well they're the two most popular, so it's understandable. Doubt many people would feel as passionate if you brought up Scientology or Zoroastrianism or something  .