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November 06, 2020, 09:17:51 AM
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Mayweather his right, the idea was originated by him so he got the people to interest the fight, and people who have already watch the Mayweather vs Conor fight might not be interested in this fight as they have already seen what's going to happen.

Conor will just be a punching bag for this legendary fighters, maybe if Manny will fight him, he will just play him so the game would last but Conor does not really have a chance here.
yeah I agree, Conor is not being know for being a boxer but I'm mma, I think the opponent that has more experience and well trained in this particular sports, these sports has a lot of common but the thing is boxing is different in throwing punches I mean forgive me guys if I am saying a wrong thing but in boxing it is continuous punches in mma they can make punches but not consistently and they can use legs, thigh, side kick etc. I am in favor of course to the boxer rather than Conor.
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November 06, 2020, 10:56:27 AM
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Mayweather his right, the idea was originated by him so he got the people to interest the fight, and people who have already watch the Mayweather vs Conor fight might not be interested in this fight as they have already seen what's going to happen.

Conor will just be a punching bag for this legendary fighters, maybe if Manny will fight him, he will just play him so the game would last but Conor does not really have a chance here.
yeah I agree, Conor is not being know for being a boxer but I'm mma, I think the opponent that has more experience and well trained in this particular sports, these sports has a lot of common but the thing is boxing is different in throwing punches I mean forgive me guys if I am saying a wrong thing but in boxing it is continuous punches in mma they can make punches but not consistently and they can use legs, thigh, side kick etc. I am in favor of course to the boxer rather than Conor.
Conor has no win on his professional boxing, but he get big fights due to this popularity, if I'm not mistaken, he first fight was only Mayweather, the best in boxing in his time and now he likes to face Manny. Look, he has no intention to win, all he will do in the ring is just to survive and avoid not getting hurt, then he will enjoy the big reward.

Although that's the main target but we cannot deny the fact that the reputation of McGregor market the fight and this will be a big game although we know what the outcome of the game is. But who knows what if McGregor will hit his lucky punch and knock off Pacquiao for sure he will gain huge fame and his value will rise.

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November 06, 2020, 11:40:05 AM
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Manny Pacquiao is fighting Conor McGregor for good purpose that's really great in my opinion, giving your effort to fight for others.
But I'm doubting if the fight could accumulate a profit due to the pandemic we currently have, what will be happening a Pay-per-view?
For me I'm interested to watch the fight and place bet on it, is there already an odds for their fight?
 

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November 06, 2020, 01:19:48 PM
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Mayweather his right, the idea was originated by him so he got the people to interest the fight, and people who have already watch the Mayweather vs Conor fight might not be interested in this fight as they have already seen what's going to happen.

Conor will just be a punching bag for this legendary fighters, maybe if Manny will fight him, he will just play him so the game would last but Conor does not really have a chance here.
yeah I agree, Conor is not being know for being a boxer but I'm mma, I think the opponent that has more experience and well trained in this particular sports, these sports has a lot of common but the thing is boxing is different in throwing punches I mean forgive me guys if I am saying a wrong thing but in boxing it is continuous punches in mma they can make punches but not consistently and they can use legs, thigh, side kick etc. I am in favor of course to the boxer rather than Conor.
Conor has no win on his professional boxing, but he get big fights due to this popularity, if I'm not mistaken, he first fight was only Mayweather, the best in boxing in his time and now he likes to face Manny. Look, he has no intention to win, all he will do in the ring is just to survive and avoid not getting hurt, then he will enjoy the big reward.

You may have a point on that mate, just like what happened to timothy bradley if you remember, where Bradley's did only was avoid Manny's
attack until the last round round ended up, so this will possible to happen again via Conor, it could also be that Conor is only after for popularity to connect His name to those boxer who are popular in boxing career only, am I right?
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November 06, 2020, 01:32:51 PM
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Mayweather his right, the idea was originated by him so he got the people to interest the fight, and people who have already watch the Mayweather vs Conor fight might not be interested in this fight as they have already seen what's going to happen.

Conor will just be a punching bag for this legendary fighters, maybe if Manny will fight him, he will just play him so the game would last but Conor does not really have a chance here.
yeah I agree, Conor is not being know for being a boxer but I'm mma, I think the opponent that has more experience and well trained in this particular sports, these sports has a lot of common but the thing is boxing is different in throwing punches I mean forgive me guys if I am saying a wrong thing but in boxing it is continuous punches in mma they can make punches but not consistently and they can use legs, thigh, side kick etc. I am in favor of course to the boxer rather than Conor.
Conor has no win on his professional boxing, but he get big fights due to this popularity, if I'm not mistaken, he first fight was only Mayweather, the best in boxing in his time and now he likes to face Manny. Look, he has no intention to win, all he will do in the ring is just to survive and avoid not getting hurt, then he will enjoy the big reward.

You may have a point on that mate, just like what happened to timothy bradley if you remember, where Bradley's did only was avoid Manny's
attack until the last round round ended up, so this will possible to happen again via Conor, it could also be that Conor is only after for popularity to connect His name to those boxer who are popular in boxing career only, am I right?

Honestly, Conor here is not a boxer, he only fight to get easy money, can't compare it with Bradley or any boxer which has a chance of beating Pacquiao, this one is going to be a one sided beat down if Pacquiao will take this seriously, Conor's career could be affected if he will allow himself to be seriously injured in this fight like what happen to Margarito.

Here's the thing, if Manny can beat a legit boxer easily, so Conor is just a piece of cake, just to be frank, no offense intended.

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November 06, 2020, 09:50:35 PM
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Any update Guys when this fight will be Held?surely not happening this year right?
No update yet. Speculations are telling that by next year but that's still a rumor. On the other hand, we got Floyd having a side comment.

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Mayweather his right, the idea was originated by him so he got the people to interest the fight, and people who have already watch the Mayweather vs Conor fight might not be interested in this fight as they have already seen what's going to happen.

Conor will just be a punching bag for this legendary fighters, maybe if Manny will fight him, he will just play him so the game would last but Conor does not really have a chance here.
We can't remove that as it really started through him.

The match pending or possible upcoming match soon is one good source for Conor himself and at least also for Manny as he said, he'll use the money to help the people.



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November 06, 2020, 10:14:33 PM
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Honestly, Conor here is not a boxer, he only fight to get easy money

If you think this will be easy money for Conor, you are wrong. The gap between Pacquaio and Conor is so wide and expect that the distribution of expected revenue of this fight might be 70/30 Pacquaio. That's why Conor is cross-switching as if ever he beats Pacquaio, his value will increase and he might end up doing an exhibition match instead since no need for a cage match as he will gain more revenue in an exhibition match.

Fighting Pacquaio will be his opportunity to make that happen so I don't expect easy money for Connor here as he is gambling his career.

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November 06, 2020, 10:24:46 PM
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Honestly, Conor here is not a boxer, he only fight to get easy money

If you think this will be easy money for Conor, you are wrong. The gap between Pacquaio and Conor is so wide and expect that the distribution of expected revenue of this fight might be 70/30 Pacquaio. That's why Conor is cross-switching as if ever he beats Pacquaio, his value will increase and he might end up doing an exhibition match instead since no need for a cage match as he will gain more revenue in an exhibition match.
I can't believe Conor is thinking of winning this fight to be honest, he has a very slim chance if he is talking of winning.
Now, Conor is the one challenging but he is getting 30% of the whole pie only, I think their team would not like that, a 40% IMO is quite reasonable though. Well, 30% would still bring him huge money if this fight will be successful and will generate at least $500 million, which I doubt.


Fighting Pacquaio will be his opportunity to make that happen so I don't expect easy money for Connor here as he is gambling his career.

Conor is facing a monster, Mayweather maybe just hitting and scoring but Pacquiao is different because he is destroying an opponent.

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November 07, 2020, 09:30:05 PM
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I don't think the statistics of fights 22-26 are special. For aspiring boxers heading for the most important fights, a 20-0 stat is common. 22-26 doesn't look like legendary. As an athlete, Conor is good, but unfortunately he will be remembered more for sports scandals and kitsch than for his sports results.

That record is not easy to achieve, Conor McGregor just know the trick on how to make himself popular.

Even Manny Pacquiao, he does not have an undefeated record but he is one of the most popular boxer in the sports of boxing, we can ask people whom they think is better, Pacquiao or Mayweather and we know the answer is very obvious.

But why are you mixing popularity and athletic performance? I respect both of them in Conor, but he is not great either there or there. Time will pass and another show-man will repeat the same tricks. There is demand and there will be supply, people are willing to pay for the show.

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November 07, 2020, 10:32:25 PM
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I don't think the statistics of fights 22-26 are special. For aspiring boxers heading for the most important fights, a 20-0 stat is common. 22-26 doesn't look like legendary. As an athlete, Conor is good, but unfortunately he will be remembered more for sports scandals and kitsch than for his sports results.

That record is not easy to achieve, Conor McGregor just know the trick on how to make himself popular.

Even Manny Pacquiao, he does not have an undefeated record but he is one of the most popular boxer in the sports of boxing, we can ask people whom they think is better, Pacquiao or Mayweather and we know the answer is very obvious.

But why are you mixing popularity and athletic performance? I respect both of them in Conor, but he is not great either there or there. Time will pass and another show-man will repeat the same tricks. There is demand and there will be supply, people are willing to pay for the show.

As long as people are willing to pay to watch the right, we will certainly see the same kind of rare fight, but it will not be rare in the future as it will be repeated. Boxing has not been as it was before, it's now all about the money now and they would be willing to break that principle for the money.

True, Conor is a boxer, he got some license, but to get big fight with some legendary fighter, I think fans would think that there's someone out there that is deserving to fight Manny, not an amateur boxer in reality.
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November 07, 2020, 11:59:33 PM
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I don't think the statistics of fights 22-26 are special. For aspiring boxers heading for the most important fights, a 20-0 stat is common. 22-26 doesn't look like legendary. As an athlete, Conor is good, but unfortunately he will be remembered more for sports scandals and kitsch than for his sports results.

That record is not easy to achieve, Conor McGregor just know the trick on how to make himself popular.

Even Manny Pacquiao, he does not have an undefeated record but he is one of the most popular boxer in the sports of boxing, we can ask people whom they think is better, Pacquiao or Mayweather and we know the answer is very obvious.

But why are you mixing popularity and athletic performance? I respect both of them in Conor, but he is not great either there or there. Time will pass and another show-man will repeat the same tricks. There is demand and there will be supply, people are willing to pay for the show.

As long as people are willing to pay to watch the right, we will certainly see the same kind of rare fight, but it will not be rare in the future as it will be repeated. Boxing has not been as it was before, it's now all about the money now and they would be willing to break that principle for the money.

True, Conor is a boxer, he got some license, but to get big fight with some legendary fighter, I think fans would think that there's someone out there that is deserving to fight Manny, not an amateur boxer in reality.
Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well then it does really create some sort of hype on
where the organization do sees it that they can really milk out some money and do make advantage on it but since we do have the free will to watch then its up to ours
but if you are really minding about dignity and true essence of each sport which shouldnt really be crossed then you wouldnt really care no matter how its being hyped.
Well, theres nothing we can do if these kind of fights being arranged and do resume as long big money is involved then expect that it will most likely to happen.

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November 08, 2020, 09:27:09 AM
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Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well..
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I'd like to emphasize that a possible match is not an exhibition fight, it will be done according to the boxing rules, which means both fighters that will fight are fighters that has a license, and Conor McGregor though an MMA fighter, he also has a boxing license.

as you can red here

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2679244-conor-mcgregor-issued-boxing-license-in-state-of-california

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Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well..
~snip~

I'd like to emphasize that a possible match is not an exhibition fight, it will be done according to the boxing rules, which means both fighters that will fight are fighters that has a license, and Conor McGregor though an MMA fighter, he also has a boxing license.

as you can red here

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2679244-conor-mcgregor-issued-boxing-license-in-state-of-california

They have license but they are fighting on different category and also I think there's no belt involve so I also consider it as exhibition fight. The only thing they get here is money and honor. But let's not debate about that as long as the fight will happen and all of us are excited to see it then it's a good bout to see happening in boxing world.

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November 08, 2020, 10:05:48 AM
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Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well..
~snip~

I'd like to emphasize that a possible match is not an exhibition fight, it will be done according to the boxing rules, which means both fighters that will fight are fighters that has a license, and Conor McGregor though an MMA fighter, he also has a boxing license.

as you can red here

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2679244-conor-mcgregor-issued-boxing-license-in-state-of-california

They have license but they are fighting on different category and also I think there's no belt involve so I also consider it as exhibition fight. The only thing they get here is money and honor. But let's not debate about that as long as the fight will happen and all of us are excited to see it then it's a good bout to see happening in boxing world.

That would be really unfair for other boxers to put the belt on the line in this fight or match since Connor McGregor is not an actual boxer, he's an MMA fighter and even though he has the license to be a boxer, he can't just get a shot in taking the belt just because he is Connor Mcgregor and also not just because Manny wants to fight them, right? The people wanted it, Manny wanted it, both parties wanted it and this will happen.

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November 08, 2020, 10:11:44 AM
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Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well..
~snip~

I'd like to emphasize that a possible match is not an exhibition fight, it will be done according to the boxing rules, which means both fighters that will fight are fighters that has a license, and Conor McGregor though an MMA fighter, he also has a boxing license.

as you can red here

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2679244-conor-mcgregor-issued-boxing-license-in-state-of-california

They have license but they are fighting on different category and also I think there's no belt involve so I also consider it as exhibition fight. The only thing they get here is money and honor. But let's not debate about that as long as the fight will happen and all of us are excited to see it then it's a good bout to see happening in boxing world.

It's not necessary to stake the belt of Manny here as Conor would never win anyway, this fight is to only entertain the fans, nothing more, and you know what? Fans will buy the PPV to see how Manny will slowly destroy Conor McGregor in the ring, and I hope it's not stipulated in the contract not to seriously hurt him as the fight would be boring.

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November 08, 2020, 10:17:03 AM
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Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well..
~snip~

I'd like to emphasize that a possible match is not an exhibition fight, it will be done according to the boxing rules, which means both fighters that will fight are fighters that has a license, and Conor McGregor though an MMA fighter, he also has a boxing license.

as you can red here

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2679244-conor-mcgregor-issued-boxing-license-in-state-of-california

They have license but they are fighting on different category and also I think there's no belt involve so I also consider it as exhibition fight. The only thing they get here is money and honor. But let's not debate about that as long as the fight will happen and all of us are excited to see it then it's a good bout to see happening in boxing world.

It's not necessary to stake the belt of Manny here as Conor would never win anyway, this fight is to only entertain the fans, nothing more, and you know what? Fans will buy the PPV to see how Manny will slowly destroy Conor McGregor in the ring, and I hope it's not stipulated in the contract not to seriously hurt him as the fight would be boring.
Of course for sure that they will take it seriously because that fight will be broadcast in the whole world, a lot of people will be dissatisfied if there will be a fixing of match where they do not bring their true power. Manny have super speed in boxing and for sure that he can take down Mc Gregor especially he is in his territory. I predict that Mc Gregor will be down at round 8 because his stamina is not strong as Manny. 

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November 08, 2020, 02:38:48 PM
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But why are you mixing popularity and athletic performance? I respect both of them in Conor, but he is not great either there or there. Time will pass and another show-man will repeat the same tricks. There is demand and there will be supply, people are willing to pay for the show.

As long as people are willing to pay to watch the right, we will certainly see the same kind of rare fight, but it will not be rare in the future as it will be repeated. Boxing has not been as it was before, it's now all about the money now and they would be willing to break that principle for the money.

True, Conor is a boxer, he got some license, but to get big fight with some legendary fighter, I think fans would think that there's someone out there that is deserving to fight Manny, not an amateur boxer in reality.

It would be much more interesting for me if Connor had fought not with a top boxer ending his career, but with one of those who are just starting their way up and have good statistics like 10-0 or 15-0. I think Connor would have been beaten very easily and his fans would have been disappointed as a regular boxer would have done it, not a legendary one.

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November 08, 2020, 04:27:37 PM
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Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well..
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I'd like to emphasize that a possible match is not an exhibition fight, it will be done according to the boxing rules, which means both fighters that will fight are fighters that has a license, and Conor McGregor though an MMA fighter, he also has a boxing license.

as you can red here

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2679244-conor-mcgregor-issued-boxing-license-in-state-of-california

Yeah after that fight with Mayweather he already have that license, but all of us knew that it's still for the exhibition and everything
is all about the money that they'll both will be taking,

Even we consider that he have that license the chance of beating Pacquiao will still be the same, he's edge is too slim as the man
he will be fighting is one of the tough and legendary from this sport.

More  on fans and gambler side as people wanted to see this fight to happened they are still curious
if how entertaining the fight will be push thru.

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November 09, 2020, 11:21:29 AM
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Its business in the first place and these exhibition matches not only limited into this but also into other sports as well..
~snip~

I'd like to emphasize that a possible match is not an exhibition fight, it will be done according to the boxing rules, which means both fighters that will fight are fighters that has a license, and Conor McGregor though an MMA fighter, he also has a boxing license.

as you can red here

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2679244-conor-mcgregor-issued-boxing-license-in-state-of-california

Yeah after that fight with Mayweather he already have that license, but all of us knew that it's still for the exhibition and everything
is all about the money that they'll both will be taking,

Even we consider that he have that license the chance of beating Pacquiao will still be the same, he's edge is too slim as the man
he will be fighting is one of the tough and legendary from this sport.

More  on fans and gambler side as people wanted to see this fight to happened they are still curious
if how entertaining the fight will be push thru.

I believe that was before the fight of Mayweather, he really applied for a license in preparation to fight Mayweather ,their fight was not an exhibition fight, it's in the books as you can see in the record of Mayweather.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/352



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November 09, 2020, 11:40:16 AM
Last edit: November 09, 2020, 12:18:15 PM by bisdak40
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But why are you mixing popularity and athletic performance? I respect both of them in Conor, but he is not great either there or there. Time will pass and another show-man will repeat the same tricks. There is demand and there will be supply, people are willing to pay for the show.

As long as people are willing to pay to watch the right, we will certainly see the same kind of rare fight, but it will not be rare in the future as it will be repeated. Boxing has not been as it was before, it's now all about the money now and they would be willing to break that principle for the money.

True, Conor is a boxer, he got some license, but to get big fight with some legendary fighter, I think fans would think that there's someone out there that is deserving to fight Manny, not an amateur boxer in reality.

It would be much more interesting for me if Connor had fought not with a top boxer ending his career, but with one of those who are just starting their way up and have good statistics like 10-0 or 15-0. I think Connor would have been beaten very easily and his fans would have been disappointed as a regular boxer would have done it, not a legendary one.

If Connor is to fight a young and unknown boxer, there would be no money on it and fans will not buy it. For me, the reason why Connor floated the idea of this fight is because of the money involve. This exhibition fight if push through is just for money and beneficial for both health-wise as the chance of one fighter hurting the other is slim.
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