Which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted countries?

[Pmalek]

Background information

What is this all about? I have read many customer reviews where members of Bitcointalk are claiming that various casinos are refusing to let them withdraw their funds on the grounds that they have gambled and accessed the site from a restricted country/jurisdiction.

The only problem is that some casinos allow users from restricted countries to register and gamble, but when they want to withdraw their winnings, they are told they broke the TOS.

I have decided to test 10 random casinos from the gambling section to see whether or not I could enter their site from a restricted location or if there would be an IP ban or other notification telling me that I can't access their site.

How did I perform this test?

1. I opened the ANN threads of 10 casinos that were on the top of the list in the Gambling board.
2. I read the casino's TOS to find information about which countries are restricted.
3. I used a VPN to access the casino to test whether or not there was an active IP block from restricted countries.
4. I did not register a new account, but I clicked on the register buttons to see if it worked.

What now?

If someone's country is restricted from playing at a certain casino, citizens of that country shouldn't be able to register and deposit money to it. There should be an IP ban as soon as you load the site in your browser.
I am planning to notify the casinos who failed the tests.
I will do more tests in the next days and when I have more time and post the results.

Local Rules 

1. This is not a topic to discuss your favorite casinos, games, promotions, sports, etc. I will self-moderate the thread and delete any posts that promote/attack certain platforms.
2. You are free to do your own tests and post some results, as long as you were successful in accessing a site from a restricted location.
3. Keep the discussion nice and clean. 

If you have any suggestions, don't hesitate to let me know.

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[Pmalek]

* I used a table layout posted by 1miau here

Casino	Restricted Countries	Active IP Ban
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1.Roobet.com 2. Coins777.com 3. *Stake.com 4. btb88.com 5. PlayBitcoinGames.com 6. Chips.gg 7. JacksClub.io 8. 7XL.co 9. Sportsbet.io 10. *Betcoin.ag 11. BetChain.com 12. CryptoWild.com 13. Cloudbet.com 14. FortuneJack.com 15. Casineos.com 16. Betnomi.com 17. Bitvest.io 18. 777coin.com 19. Bustadice.com 20. Bitcasino.io 21. CryptoThrills.io 22. Bitsler.com 23. Primedice.com 24. *BitDice.me 25. AceDBets.io 26. Duelbits.com 27. Windice.io 28. Bustabit.com 29. Tower.bet 30. BetBTC.co	Germany, USA, Netherlands No Info Available France, UK, USA Germany, Switzerland, Turkey No Info Available USA, UK, Netherlands No Info Available No Info Available USA, Germany, Netherlands USA, UK UK, France, Netherlands USA, UK, France USA, UK More information here France, UK, Switzerland Turkey, France, USA No Info Available No Info Available France, Netherlands, USA USA, UK, Netherlands No Info Available USA, France, Netherlands USA, UK, France UK, USA NO Info Available France, Netherlands, USA France, USA France, Netherlands, USA France, Netherlands, USA NO Info Available	Germany - NO USA - YES Netherlands - NO - France - YES UK - YES USA - YES Germany - YES Switzerland - YES Turkey - YES - UK - NO Netherlands - NO USA - NO - - USA - YES Germany - YES Netherlands - YES USA - YES UK - YES UK - YES France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - NO UK - YES France - YES USA - YES UK - YES - France - NO UK - NO Switzerland - NO Turkey - NO France - NO USA - YES - - France - NO Netherlands - NO USA - NO USA - YES UK - YES Netherlands - YES All countries allowed according to customer support USA - YES France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - YES UK - YES France - YES UK - YES USA - YES - France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - YES France - NO USA - NO France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - YES France - NO Netherlands - NO USA - NO -

*Changes made to the results of Betcoin's IP bans. More info is available here.
*Changes made to the results of Stake's IP bans. More info is available here.
*Changes made to the results of BitDice's IP bans. More info is available here.

[Pmalek]

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[2double0]

Nice work there. Can you also do the same checks at betchain and crypto wild and see if they allow your listed countries or not? I hope the list here is not restricted to your own choices and we are allowed to request other sites to be tested.

[zidanw]

This is great I've seen some users complaining about it where in he was failed to read the ToS and registered on the casino which he assumed was alright since he was able to register on it but as soon as he withdraw the casino detected him and confiscated his money and closed his account. I think this one of the casino's trick to some users or maybe they just didn't care about the user at all? anyways it's important for the users to read the ToS before playing this thread would great for the lazy users who didn't managed to read ToS of the casinos and sports betting sites.

[StephenJH]

Nice work, thanks for sharing. I have tried to access the various gambling platforms with a VPN(US IP) but unfortunately as explained there is no way to access the site. Demo games are not allowed even if the user is allowed to register with US IP. Belarus IP is restricted in Roobet, Czech IP is banned too in Stake. Fortunejack allows us to enter and register with US IP but it is against the ToS to withdraw any amount for US citizens. Unless users can confirm citizenship with personal documents, customers from the USA will waste their time. BTW, some providers block the specific IP addresses, for example, I can't access Play&Go slots due to restrictions by the provider.

[DoublerHunter]

^ You are definitely right and here is the link where OP can research how to summarized because it seems all games had a different restriction on each country. https://fortunejack.com/faq/prohibited-territories.
There are certain games that putting restrictions of FortuneJack, probably OP will take time to summarize all of them. As I observed, most usually from the US have a restriction on gambling.

[Twentyonepaylots]

It seems like USA and UK has the most restricted countries for the casinos. I don't know about their national policies but it seems hard to pass to those policies. Here in my country, I don't know they they restrict any casino since they could just put their hand to it and get tax out of it. It's just a matter of regulation and licensure right? or a lot complicated than these countries?

[Pmalek]

I hope the list here is not restricted to your own choices and we are allowed to request other sites to be tested.

I checked the casinos whose ANNs were at the top of the gambling board so the selection process was in no way biased. I might do the same next time as well or take into considerations what other users suggest, like in your example.

^ You are definitely right and here is the link where OP can research how to summarized because it seems all games had a different restriction on each country. https://fortunejack.com/faq/prohibited-territories.
There are certain games that putting restrictions of FortuneJack, probably OP will take time to summarize all of them. As I observed, most usually from the US have a restriction on gambling.

 
My goal here is not to check which game providers have country restrictions, I am only checking what country limitations casinos have in place and whether or not it is possible to access their site from a restricted country. 

[khaled0111]

@Pmalek, I appreciate the effort you have put into this but if I may ask: what's your aim from notifying them?
I am sure they already know about this, so I suggest you ask them for clarifications or to tell you the reasons why they allow usets from restricted countries to use their services.
What I couldn't understand is why some of them geo-blocked certain countries? Is it because of their strict gambling legislations?

You suggest you post your concerns in their ANN threads or contact them via email.

[Furious 7]

Sportsbet.io and Betcoin.ag cannot be accessed using my country's IP maybe because of the detected restrictions so I rarely open the gambling site occasionally only use a VPN if I want to play there.
But other gambling sites are quite safe so for me every time I play gambling because there are no restrictions on the IP I use, it will remain in my country that gambling is strictly prohibited and because of existing regulations, if it is caught it will be blocked too.

[michellee]

Although gambling sites have IP blocks for some restricted countries, it doesn't mean that a gambler can not access that site because as long as a gambler can use VPN, especially a premium VPN, he can visit on that site without a problem. Even if gambling is prohibited in his country, he can still visit that site using a VPN. So I think that will not be a problem. With VPN, we can open the restricted website, and we can get inside without anyone knows.

[Rikafip]

Although gambling sites have IP blocks for some restricted countries, it doesn't mean that a gambler can not access that site because as long as a gambler can use VPN, especially a premium VPN, he can visit on that site without a problem. Even if gambling is prohibited in his country, he can still visit that site using a VPN. So I think that will not be a problem. With VPN, we can open the restricted website, and we can get inside without anyone knows.

I think that you missed the point of this thread even though OP explained why he is doing that, so let me try to explain

It's all fine and dandy when you use VPN to circumvent restriction, but what will happen in case you hit the jackpot, and then casino decides to ask you for KYC We've seen plenty of those cases in scam accusation board where casinos didn't really care from where people are as long as they were loosing money, but things changed fast when it was time for big payout.


Good initiative @Pmalek, I'll definitely follow this thread as I'm curious whether they do anything after you contacting them.

[Pmalek]

@Pmalek, I appreciate the effort you have put into this but if I may ask: what's your aim from notifying them?
I am sure they already know about this, so I suggest you ask them for clarifications or to tell you the reasons why they allow usets from restricted countries to use their services.

I want to know why they don't put more effort into preventing users from restricted countries from registering/gambling/using their services. It seems weird that you can gamble and deposit money from country X, but when it is time to withdraw your winnings, citizens from country X aren't allowed. It causes anger by the users, and the casinos are making themselves look bad. Issues for both parties can be prevented with active IP blocks.   

Some sites might not be aware that their IP blocks don't work properly or work only partially. If you check my results, you will notice that Stake for example, has active IP blocks for France and USA. The UK should be blocked as well, but for some reason I could enter the site with a British IP address. They might not be aware of that.

Although gambling sites have IP blocks for some restricted countries, it doesn't mean that a gambler can not access that site because as long as a gambler can use VPN, especially a premium VPN, he can visit on that site without a problem.

That is a completely other discussion. In case the users are cheating on purpose and telling lies about their nationality/location, they only have themselves to blame if things go wrong.

I would like to see the casinos do a better job on their end.

 

[michellee]

and then casino decides to ask you for KYC

You can search for the gambling websites which don't require KYC, so no matter if you use VPN, you will be okay to withdraw the money.

To @Pmalek: Did you use a free VPN or premium VPN? Because I think the result will be different between free VPN and premium VPN.

Most people will withdraw their big winning at once without dividing it for many withdrawal transactions. Their reason is that they want to avoid the fee. If he realizes that the fee is not too big than his winning, so he doesn't have to withdraw at once.

I think the gambler needs to find what the gambling site they should choose, and before they can find the right site, they don't have to use a larger amount to play gambling. Their purposes of playing gambling are finding which site allows them to register, play gambling, and withdraw the win money. But if somehow, they got a big win, never withdraw all of the win money at once.

We got a list from @Pmalek. Thanks to him.

So you know which site that you can use to playing gambling.

Although gambling sites have IP blocks for some restricted countries, it doesn't mean that a gambler can not access that site because as long as a gambler can use VPN, especially a premium VPN, he can visit on that site without a problem.

That is a completely other discussion. In case the users are cheating on purpose and telling lies about their nationality/location, they only have themselves to blame if things go wrong.

I would like to see the casinos do a better job on their end.

I think the gambling website don't care wherever they come from, and they never ask their visitor (for the gambling site which doesn't ask for KYC). But they can monitor which countries that access their site. But well, the casino can say that their member breaks the rule because of something.

[NotATether]

Sportsbet.io and Betcoin.ag cannot be accessed using my country's IP maybe because of the detected restrictions so I rarely open the gambling site occasionally only use a VPN if I want to play there.
But other gambling sites are quite safe so for me every time I play gambling because there are no restrictions on the IP I use, it will remain in my country that gambling is strictly prohibited and because of existing regulations, if it is caught it will be blocked too.

I infer you've deposited money and played at sportsbet and betcoin.ag, since you can't place bets there without a deposit, but have you ever sucessfully withdrawn funds from them, or was that blocked too?

And what about the casinos you accessed with your home IP were there any withdrawal problems with them?

N.B. before I forget: chips.gg seems to detect if you are using a US VPN and it stops you from playing the live games until you turn it off. The in-house games and the rest of the site are still accessible, which makes sense as you can't judge a customer's location by a colocation IP address block that VPN providers use.

[Pmalek]

Good initiative @Pmalek, I'll definitely follow this thread as I'm curious whether they do anything after you contacting them.

Thanks Rikafip!

To @Pmalek: Did you use a free VPN or premium VPN? Because I think the result will be different between free VPN and premium VPN.

I used free VPN services.

N.B. before I forget: chips.gg seems to detect if you are using a US VPN and it stops you from playing the live games until you turn it off. The in-house games and the rest of the site are still accessible, which makes sense as you can't judge a customer's location by a colocation IP address block that VPN providers use.

That IP detection might be something that the casino has detected, or it could be a check that the game developers perform. For example Netent and Ezugi games aren't accessible for US players. So if you wanted to play an Ezugi live dealer game on a site that allows US players, chances are that you would either by geo blocked or if the casino were to check your identity, they could freeze your funds.

I informed the first batch of casinos about my findings. I posted in the ANN threads of Roobet, Stake Chips.gg, and Betcoin. I considered contacting the casinos via customer support, but by making the posts public I can reduce the chances of them getting lost, not seen, not sent to appropriate parties, etc.

Coins777, PlayBitcoinGames.com, JacksClub.io, and 7XL.co were not approached since their TOS doesn't contain the necessary info about restricted countries.

[Sadlife]

Your test might not be as accurate as you think, because gambling sites know your using a VPN but still can get your geolocation in other words they can still get your real IP. So better software could be a recommended such as sockets or VPS, because its more untraceable, and mostly undetected.
But the fact that the user can register, and deposit money but can't withdraw is just fraud. That gambling site should be reported here, so users would be notify and stay away from such theft.

[Betcoin.AG]

Hello, and thank you for the inquiry. We do have IP bans in place for USA, UK and all restricted regions. If someone uses a VPN to circumvent the IP ban, we cannot prevent them from registering for an account. Anyone signing up for an online casino should always check the terms of service and make sure they are eligible prior to signing up.

If someone has a Betcoin.ag account which was created before we received our license, they will still be able to login from their US, UK or AUS IPs, but new sign-ups will not.

If anyone has a question prior to creating an account at Betcoin.ag, we offer 24/7 support. Best of luck to you!

[NotATether]

Your test might not be as accurate as you think, because gambling sites know your using a VPN but still can get your geolocation in other words they can still get your real IP. So better software could be a recommended such as sockets or VPS, because its more untraceable, and mostly undetected.
But the fact that the user can register, and deposit money but can't withdraw is just fraud. That gambling site should be reported here, so users would be notify and stay away from such theft.

Casinos and other websites can only get your geolocation if you explicitly give them that permission from the browser, there's usually a modal popup that asks for permission to use your GPS sensor.
And such tracking isn't applicable in the first place if your device doesn't have a GPS sensor.

VPS (unless you install remote desktop software on it) and sockets, which I take to mean SOCKS proxies, won't stop them from collecting your geolocation.

Betcoin staff replied as I was writing this, I'm going to assume that merely accessing the site through a VPN while living in a restricted place isn't going to get your account closed and you'd be able to withdraw normally.

[Betcoin.AG]

Betcoin staff replied as I was writing this, I'm going to assume that merely accessing the site through a VPN while living in a restricted place isn't going to get your account closed and you'd be able to withdraw normally.

We ask that players not use a VPN or any IP masking tool to access accounts from banned regions, as this is a term of our license. That said, unless a player is using it to abuse other terms of service (ie.. creating multiple accounts to abuse bonuses, limits, promos, use banned software etc...) we will always do our best to treat them fairly. We do reserve the right to use KYC procedures on players, but it is incredibly rare and only done in cases of suspected fraud. We also have some regions that are not banned by our license, but because the large majority of players from those regions have been fraudulent.

As the Bitcoin community knows well, there are many people who make it their life's work to defraud people. Unfortunately, the use of VPN, proxy, VPS etc.. to commit fraud is quite common, and sites are not always able to disclose publicly the exact details, for security purposes. What we mean by that, is if an illegitimate player discovers our security methods, it will make it easier for them to get around that method in the future. If the player insists that the detection method be disclosed, we advise them to seek 3rd party mediation. We are happy to disclose full details to the mediator.

The easiest thing for everyone is for players to abide by the terms of service for the site. If you use a VPN and we ask you where you are playing and you lie, it looks suspicious that you are lying. Meanwhile, you may just be lying to protect yourself, because you know you are playing from a banned region. It forces sites to be put in difficult situations, possibly violate the terms of their license and spend extra time determining the reason for the deception.

Edited: Added additional info

[swogerino]

It is true that Sportsbet restricts Usa,Germany and Netherlands however if you go to the site with an IP from those countries you are told straight away a message that says unfortunately Sportsbet is not available in your region.They don’t let you register and then when you withdraw they say you break their Tos.

[ralle14]

I did a few test on Cloudbet to see if i'll get the restricted message in the home page like this one. It appeared a few times when using an IP from the UK but after using another vpn service it seems that the restriction message is inconsistent. The IPs I used are from USA, UK, Hong Kong and Singapore since these are the specific countries mentioned in their terms.

[-CryptoViking-]

Great job OP. Good initiative and hope this will bear some fruit in the end. If this will help to make gambling sites operate more transparently and save some people for the TOS hell it will be well worth it. There are a lot of grey areas and the more we are able to reduce it, the better. Both for the casino operators and the customers.

[bunglor]

This is great a compiled information about which casinos do IP blocks does not all casino block users if their IP is prohibited? I can say that's those casinos does not really care about players.

[Betcoin.AG]

This is great a compiled information about which casinos do IP blocks does not all casino block users if their IP is prohibited? I can say that's those casinos does not really care about players.

Agreed, it is an important post for both players and operators, however the list is not accurate. We cannot speak for the other sites listed, but Betcoin absolutely blocks restricted regions. Either OP was able to access Betcoin from restricted regions because his account was created prior to our licensing or the VPN he is using is not accurately representing the regions, based on our detection. The latter happens fairly often, but only with VPN. We get many emails from upset players each day, because they cannot create accounts from US or UK.

[Debonaire217]

Agreed, it is an important post for both players and operators, however the list is not accurate. We cannot speak for the other sites listed, but Betcoin absolutely blocks restricted regions. Either OP was able to access Betcoin from restricted regions because his account was created prior to our licensing or the VPN he is using is not accurately representing the regions, based on our detection. The latter happens fairly often, but only with VPN. We get many emails from upset players each day, because they cannot create accounts from US or UK.

Would it be better if sites will be restricting IP's even if the user was already created their account before when licensing is still not yet available? Because for me, if they will allow users who have registered before but in a country which is restricted, it could be easy for others to create account using VPN in other country and use it to the platform itself. Thus, they can freely play even if they are in a country which is restricted.

[Pmalek]

I did a few test on Cloudbet to see if i'll get the restricted message in the home page like this one. It appeared a few times when using an IP from the UK but after using another vpn service it seems that the restriction message is inconsistent. The IPs I used are from USA, UK, Hong Kong and Singapore since these are the specific countries mentioned in their terms.

Thanks for testing. I will check Cloudbet in my second batch of casinos to see what results I get.

@-CryptoViking- @bunglor
Thanks!

Either OP was able to access Betcoin from restricted regions because his account was created prior to our licensing or the VPN he is using is not accurately representing the regions, based on our detection. The latter happens fairly often, but only with VPN.

First of all, thank you for being the first casino who showed interest in commenting on this topic!

I was able to access Betcoin and browse around on it without any problems with IPs both from the East and West Coast of the USA. Your post made me curious so I will now do an additional test and try to go through the registration process of a new account while on a US IP and see how that goes.

I will edit this post after I am done. 
Edit: After an additional test with 2 different IPs from the US and 1 from the UK, Betcoin was right when they claimed that there is an IP ban when you try to register for a new account from a restricted location! Users are still free to browse the site and I was even able to play a bit of Blackjack in DEMO mode.



When you click on the login/join button, you are still not blocked and you can see the login fields. However, clicking on the Create new account tab triggers an IP ban. I did not notice this the first time and I most have misunderstood the login tab for the register tab. 

I will now edit the results in the 2nd post of this topic. Thank you Betcoin!   

[VanityWallets2015]

Agreed, it is an important post for both players and operators, however the list is not accurate. We cannot speak for the other sites listed, but Betcoin absolutely blocks restricted regions. Either OP was able to access Betcoin from restricted regions because his account was created prior to our licensing or the VPN he is using is not accurately representing the regions, based on our detection. The latter happens fairly often, but only with VPN. We get many emails from upset players each day, because they cannot create accounts from US or UK.

Would it be better if sites will be restricting IP's even if the user was already created their account before when licensing is still not yet available? Because for me, if they will allow users who have registered before but in a country which is restricted, it could be easy for others to create account using VPN in other country and use it to the platform itself. Thus, they can freely play even if they are in a country which is restricted.

I do partly agree with you. Eliminating of players from restricted region is one way to make this less complicated.
Although, by doing that, their freedom to gamble are also being restricted. I guess VPN is not always the answer? Enlighten me on that.
But at least this thread could give a heads up to player in deciding where to register and watch out for those sites with IP bans.

[Pmalek]

Chips.gg is the second casino that reached out. According to them, they will discuss their platform setup internally, and I hope some IP bans can soon be introduced.

Thank you for sharing your concerns regarding the potential problems you feel this could cause players in the future. We appreciate you taking the time to share this and we will address this issue in our next development update.

[famososMuertos]

If someone always reads TOS, they are the cheaters, in fact they are the most informed.

The issue here is simple, you must be aware  find the "conditions of service," etc. and should be read. Only someone who is a novice can put money in a casino or win a prize and then not withdraw it, for something as simple as being prohibited. And then whose fault is it?

In the first instance the casino will freeze the money and then the ban. You claim and it is so simple that in the conditions of service that you accept when registering, the countries that are prohibited appear.

-In the first instance, check, read and look for that information.

-If you are lazy, look for a casino with good support and ask. If it does not offer you this, do not waste time, as I always say the best support solves your concerns, simple questions and general any "timely" and "inopportune" question that occurs to you.

Think about it, if they are not able to answer your questions, how will they with real problems.

There is a casino on that list that does not block the country, although it appears restricted, the reason is that some casinos know that many users today use VPN or browsers and change the country randomly, so let's say you connect with browser, VPN, proxy, Ghost, etc. so  is assigned to you "x country"  even if the country is restricted, you are accepted, technically accepts you, but Yes/not legally (terms of service).

Actually some casinos also assume the opposite, that you are from a permitted country but you are using a VPN and they assign you a restricted country. So the conditions of service prevail and not the techniques.

Is the above okay? technically and legally "see site conditions," if and only if for example the site supports the use of VPN, if it does not support it and it is written, you should disconnect and register without VPN or whatever you use. If nothing is written, this means that the good faith of the users prevails.

That is to say, in practice what you do is of great help, because it saves users discomfort for those who do not understand, but the technicality of the "legal" registration for some casinos is in its conditions and the user is governed by them, It is not the casino's obligation to "have" to prohibit you, so you should know that it is wrong to do so.

The presumption of good faith between the parties is governed by the contract that is accepted when registering.

In conclusion, what they write in the conditions of service strictly prevails.

[Pmalek]

I spoke to a friendly Stake.com support agent today and told here about my findings when I tested their Casino for IP bans. I asked her why there are bans on IPs from France and the US, but no ban on UK IPs.

She told me that If I tried creating a new account while on a UK IP, the site wouldn't allow me. A very curious situation, but she is absolutely right.
When you enter Stake.com with a US/French IP, you see a pop-up that says that you are not allowed to use their services. When you do the same thing with a UK IP, you don't get that notification!

But when you fill in the registration form and click on the submit button, you will see a pop-up that notifies you that your region is restricted from Stake.com and you cannot register.

I find it a bit unusual that the system isn't setup the same way for all countries, but the fact remains that they still have an active IP ban for UK players. I will edit my 2nd post in this thread and correct the results.

Thanks for the explanation Jelena!

[coinlocket$]

I think is DNS blocked by ISP, not IP blocked, or I'm wrong

[big_daddy]

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You can add Sportsbet.io UK ip address ban, it redirects you to this site https://www.sportsbetio.uk/sports/
I’m using my mobile data from Croatia when in the UK to access the site

[Pmalek]

I think is DNS blocked by ISP, not IP blocked, or I'm wrong

What do you mean?

You can add Sportsbet.io UK ip address ban, it redirects you to this site https://www.sportsbetio.uk/sports/

That is interesting, I didn't notice redirections when I accessed Sportsbet from other locations. There is just a notification that the site is unavailable for players from your region. I wonder why casinos use different notifications/pop-ups depending on the country you are accessing the site from?!

In case of Sportsbet, it makes sense to redirect the players to their UK branch, but have a look at what I wrote above regarding Stake...

[Pmalek]

While I was checking the TOS for FortuneJack, I discovered that they don't have the usual restricted countries posted in their TOS. Instead, they have what they call: "Prohibited Territories per provider". (https://fortunejack.com/faq/prohibited-territories)

On that list, they state which countries are restricted from playing games from which game provider. Lets take USA as an example. They are banned on almost all providers. But they are not banned by Quickspin.

Would that mean that you can use FotuneJack and play ONLY Quickspin games as a US player?

Their TOS also states this:

10.2. You are not allowed to use the Gaming Service from any of the Prohibited Territories. Generally, we will block Your access to the particular Gaming Service from the Prohibited Territories, however, if it happens that Your access is not blocked and You are still able to use the Service from the Prohibited Territories, we reserve the right to void any wagers and winnings of You if we find out that the bet was made from any of the Prohibited Territory.

This seems to suggest that only particular games by certain providers aren't allowed. Meaning that US players are free to play the games that are not on the list. I am going to ask FortuneJack to clarify this to make sure I understood it properly.

10.3.  We do not provide our Services to the End Users located on certain territories, counties and jurisdictions, which require the respective local gaming license to be obtained for operating gaming platform and providing gaming and gambling services on such territory, unless we obtain the respective local license for the respective jurisdiction.

[Pmalek]

The second batch of casinos has been tested. The results are posted below.
Just like during phase 1, I will now contact each casino that failed to provide a proper IP block with the results.

Casino	Restricted Countries	Active IP Ban
_____________________________	_____________________________	_________________
11. BetChain.com 12. CryptoWild.com 13. Cloudbet.com 14. FortuneJack.com 15. Casineos.com 16. Betnomi.com 17. Bitvest.io 18. 777coin.com 19. Bustadice.com 20. Bitcasino.io	UK, France, Netherlands USA, UK, France USA, UK More information here France, UK, Switzerland Turkey, France, USA No Info Available No Info Available France, Netherlands, USA USA, UK, Netherlands	UK - YES France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - NO UK - YES France - YES USA - YES UK - YES - France - NO UK - NO Switzerland - NO Turkey - NO France - NO USA - YES - - France - NO Netherlands - NO USA - NO USA - YES UK - YES Netherlands - YES

[robelneo]

Although gambling sites have IP blocks for some restricted countries, it doesn't mean that a gambler can not access that site because as long as a gambler can use VPN, especially a premium VPN, he can visit on that site without a problem. Even if gambling is prohibited in his country, he can still visit that site using a VPN. So I think that will not be a problem. With VPN, we can open the restricted website, and we can get inside without anyone knows.

Joining and betting using a VPN is not going to be an issue if you are just going to play, but if you are going to win a jackpot this is where you are going to encounter an issue, you have to answer why you proceed to register and play when you already know that they are banning your country and because of that you will have problems on how to withdraw, I have seen so many of this creating a complaint when they are the one who broke the rule in the first place.

[Raflesia]

Although gambling sites have IP blocks for some restricted countries, it doesn't mean that a gambler can not access that site because as long as a gambler can use VPN, especially a premium VPN, he can visit on that site without a problem. Even if gambling is prohibited in his country, he can still visit that site using a VPN. So I think that will not be a problem. With VPN, we can open the restricted website, and we can get inside without anyone knows.

Joining and betting using a VPN is not going to be an issue if you are just going to play, but if you are going to win a jackpot this is where you are going to encounter an issue, you have to answer why you proceed to register and play when you already know that they are banning your country and because of that you will have problems on how to withdraw, I have seen so many of this creating a complaint when they are the one who broke the rule in the first place.

I think if winning the Jackpot is rare then all they need is to mean what is at stake, and if we use a VPN of course it's not a problem even I often use it like because it's forbidden in my country from that just use it if there's no problem. VPNs still have strong security if you can trust them.

[Pmalek]

I have seen so many of this creating a complaint when they are the one who broke the rule in the first place.

Players consciously break the rules by using VPNs, that is true. However, some players use VPNs to protect their privacy. They aren't located in a restricted location, but they don't want to gamble using their real IPs. This is understandable. In that case, they have to be careful not to use a VPN from a location that is not allowed.

Some casinos should be blamed for not caring or doing more from their side as well. As you can see, many casinos have proper IP blocks for players. So it is possible to implement, if you want to. But certain platforms don't. It would be interesting to find out why. Is it just a coincidence, or don't they want to implement such blocks on purpose?

I think it is an important topic, and I am trying to engage them in a conversation.     

[fiulpro]

Using VPN can cause a serious harm for your profile. If you are using it and the casino have a no VPN policy, you can loose all your funds and even be banned from further use.

I believe before doing this , the casinos should not let players even play , since when you say how the issue is coming during the withdrawal of funds I believe this looks bad on the part of the casino itself.

1. Casinos needs to regulate it primarily level , people from the restricted countries should not be able to play withdrawal is something else.

2. People should not use VPN to access any services like these since they can very easily be spotted thus it would cause problems for them only.

_*_

But then again I agree with the point that players might use VPN to protect their privacy since gambling in cryptocurrencies values privacy a lot. But I do think that if this happens and players are getting caught using the VPN , they should ask them for their nationality proof before banning and freezing their funds.

[dimonstration]

Players consciously break the rules by using VPNs, that is true. However, some players use VPNs to protect their privacy. They aren't located in a restricted location, but they don't want to gamble using their real IPs. This is understandable. In that case, they have to be careful not to use a VPN from a location that is not allowed.

VPN been widely used nowadays not just in casinos or restricted websites but also for security concerns, though there were times when overused or not paid VPN this is not working effectively. There are many casinos that are restricted in many countries but we're all still able to play, thanks to VPN but don't depend too much as some VPN may not be legit enough to secure you. I wonder if there is already a solution in detecting it for those casinos that have restrictions.

[Pmalek]

There are many casinos that are restricted in many countries but we're all still able to play, thanks to VPN

Yes, but you shouldn't do that mate for the many reasons stated in this thread. If you are using a VPN to bypass the restrictions, you are consciously  breaking the user agreement. For any future issues, like problems with withdrawals and confiscation of funds, you will only have yourself to blame.  


Betnomi has shown a willingness to make some changes. They are planning to introduce pop-up notifications, warning users who are accessing the site from a restricted location.

These are their replies:

We will remove the geo block from all countries. These are all restricted countries but, we have other applications and services running on our subdomains which are not restricted in these countries and with the geo blocks, the subdomains are inaccessible as well. For this reason, the website will be accessible from all countries but we will have a pop up displayed notifying/warning users from restricted countries.
Feel free to let us know if you have further questions and good job on creating an informative topic found that be be useful.

No, players from jurisdictions that are restricted are totally not allowed to play on our website. After the geo block is removed. We will give a warning to users visiting from restricted area to refrain from doing so and put in measure such as hiding login and signup buttons for such users. We are not advocating for anyone to break the law.

[RHavar]

For any future issues, like problems with withdrawals and confiscation of funds, you will only have yourself to blame.

I strongly disagree. I no longer run a casino, but when I did I went through the process of two different gambling licenses and spoke to many lawyers. I can't speak about all jurisdictions, but I am not aware of anywhere that says a casino should pocket the funds of people who violate the terms of service.

I think this view has been validated by devans (the owner/operator of bustabit/bustadice):

Outside of extreme edge cases like being compelled to by a court order, bustabit will never prevent users from accessing their funds.

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

[DrG]

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

Imagine winning a nice jackpot only to have the hosting casino ask you for ID for tax filings. You can kiss your winnings goodbye. Plan accordingly.

[Pmalek]

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

I have read about casinos returning the original deposits to the players, but seizing all profits they make. Such an action would surely make violators think twice whether or not they will do it again. What would happen after the "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here"? Would they be allowed to withdraw all the money and continue breaking the rules by creating new accounts? It looks like the worst thing that can happen is that the casino closes their account, players get a slap on the wrists, and all their earnings are paid back after that.

I don't agree with that. I don't agree with casinos cheating their players, but I don't agree with players deliberately cheating casinos either.

I am getting a bit off topic here. The point of discussion is which casinos are trying to restrict players from certain jurisdictions, and how are they doing it? Which casinos aren't, and why not?

[abel1337]

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

I have read about casinos returning the original deposits to the players, but seizing all profits they make. Such an action would surely make violators think twice whether or not they will do it again. What would happen after the "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here"? Would they be allowed to withdraw all the money and continue breaking the rules by creating new accounts? It looks like the worst thing that can happen is that the casino closes their account, players get a slap on the wrists, and all their earnings are paid back after that.

I don't agree with that. I don't agree with casinos cheating their players, but I don't agree with players deliberately cheating casinos either.

I am getting a bit off topic here. The point of discussion is which casinos are trying to restrict players from certain jurisdictions, and how are they doing it? Which casinos aren't, and why not?

Restricted players and casinos would literally abuse each other if they are justifying these points with each other, Both parties trying to find a loophole with their rights and declared rules. I can agree about the idea about returning all the deposit to the violator, All of the loopholes will be gone both parties will not have a problem with that, and I think it's being fair with each other.

There are only a few ways for a casino to identify if their players are from the banned countries those methods do have a little bit of backslash in the casino like (1) If the casino requires KYC to their new customer, they will certainly lose some of their players since most of us cryptocurrency users doesnt want to give our identities (2) If they identify if the player uses VPN from accessing their casino on a restricted country, which can lead into issues about the casino.


I strongly suggest that IP ban is necessary as a precaution for players.

[carlisle1]

It seems like USA and UK has the most restricted countries for the casinos. I don't know about their national policies but it seems hard to pass to those policies. Here in my country, I don't know they they restrict any casino since they could just put their hand to it and get tax out of it. It's just a matter of regulation and licensure right? or a lot complicated than these countries?

Same as Germany and Netherlands mate since those 4 are the most mentioned countries added are UK territories also.

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

But will the Gambling sites concern about this ?i don't think so because the more players enters their sites is the more income they got.
so why bother about the VPN usage from each countries.

Imagine winning a nice jackpot only to have the hosting casino ask you for ID for tax filings. You can kiss your winnings goodbye. Plan accordingly.

Well this is why we must be responsible in using casino sites,or much better to play in Real life for more safer gambling habits.

[DrG]

It seems like USA and UK has the most restricted countries for the casinos. I don't know about their national policies but it seems hard to pass to those policies. Here in my country, I don't know they they restrict any casino since they could just put their hand to it and get tax out of it. It's just a matter of regulation and licensure right? or a lot complicated than these countries?

Same as Germany and Netherlands mate since those 4 are the most mentioned countries added are UK territories also.

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

But will the Gambling sites concern about this ?i don't think so because the more players enters their sites is the more income they got.
so why bother about the VPN usage from each countries.

Imagine winning a nice jackpot only to have the hosting casino ask you for ID for tax filings. You can kiss your winnings goodbye. Plan accordingly.

Well this is why we must be responsible in using casino sites,or much better to play in Real life for more safer gambling habits.

Typically governments will give gambling establishments some leeway if they've shown they've made reasonable attempts to keep unauthorized people from accessing their site. If the casino clearly presents which people can use the site and also actively bans users from restricted countries and still somebody manages to use their site, they're usually off the hook from government prosecution. A casino failing to do so cannot plead ignorance of the law since ignorance is not a valid excuse in most courts of law (sure it works for the rich and powerful, but not average business or lay person). So no casino should be letting a wider audience use their platform at the expense of possible criminal charges and possible loss of operations - at least not a sane one.

[kotajikikox]

Players consciously break the rules by using VPNs, that is true. However, some players use VPNs to protect their privacy. They aren't located in a restricted location, but they don't want to gamble using their real IPs. This is understandable. In that case, they have to be careful not to use a VPN from a location that is not allowed.

VPN been widely used nowadays not just in casinos or restricted websites but also for security concerns, though there were times when overused or not paid VPN this is not working effectively. There are many casinos that are restricted in many countries but we're all still able to play, thanks to VPN but don't depend too much as some VPN may not be legit enough to secure you. I wonder if there is already a solution in detecting it for those casinos that have restrictions.

Yeah actually i stopped using VPN because of sometimes it just stop providing signal and in the end i will be needing to use my regular net so what's the main purpose.
or maybe i have just using a not so good VPN provider.
if there is someone who has a Good one please kindly share .
Though i don't really need to use this in casino or gambling cases because our country is open in any kind of gambling and even those illegal casino online can operate freely here without being banned,or maybe my government is just lazy finding them.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Primedice and BitDice do not allow players from the United States. BitDice also does not allow UK players.

[peter0425]

Primedice and BitDice do not allow players from the United States. BitDice also does not allow UK players.

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

but i believe that some players still plays using VPN in those sites right?not sure about this but i heard sometime in a group that they can still play even they are from those places.

[Genemind]

Thanks for sharing your research, this will be a good thread and I hope you will continuously add more casinos and details about your research to help other players check about sites country restrictions. Let's face it that majority of gamblers don't read through TOS and end up having their accounts frozen due to IP restrictions. US and UK are strict with online gambling, I guess most people in these countries are using VPN to access gambling sites. The main problem if ever they will need to undergo sudden KYC as per the platforms request.

[Pmalek]

Primedice and BitDice do not allow players from the United States. BitDice also does not allow UK players.

Thanks for taking part. I will check these 2 casinos as well soon.

but i believe that some players still plays using VPN in those sites right?

I am sure that many do. The same way I was able to mask my IP with a US IP, someone else can mask his US IP with one from a country that is allowed. But for what? They will only be creating problems for themselves if at one time they get asked to identify themselves.

Thanks for sharing your research, this will be a good thread and I hope you will continuously add more casinos and details about your research to help other players check about sites country restrictions.

I am planning to do a 3rd batch soon. Probably when I have some more time and select some random casinos.

[hulla]

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino

To avoid future complications, I dont support the use of VPN to access gambling site either for security purpose or not and it always better to access gambling site using the private browser mode.

allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

No, they follow the rules and regulations of the master license of gaming services provider.
Pmalek, Duelbits is not on this list.

[Saint-loup]

For any future issues, like problems with withdrawals and confiscation of funds, you will only have yourself to blame.

I strongly disagree. I no longer run a casino, but when I did I went through the process of two different gambling licenses and spoke to many lawyers. I can't speak about all jurisdictions, but I am not aware of anywhere that says a casino should pocket the funds of people who violate the terms of service.

I think this view has been validated by devans (the owner/operator of bustabit/bustadice):

Outside of extreme edge cases like being compelled to by a court order, bustabit will never prevent users from accessing their funds.

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

Thank you for doing this post, I agree with you.
I think casinos seizing people funds when it's not obvious the user was fully aware of that rule and its consequences, are neither honest nor professional.
Casinos doing that should be denounced here.  

[kawetsriyanto]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

[Google+]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

I think from my knowledge in ASIA no one provides regulations on gambling it's just that everything is emphasized that when gambling has a very high risk and it is a personal responsibility not the state so that until now many are still running the gambling business.

[StephenJH]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

IMHO, there are gambling banned Asian countries(China, Singapore) but the gambling platforms don't feel "squeezed" by their laws. All forms of lottery and gambling are illegal for mentioned countries. If there is no regulator that can intervene in the activity of the gambling platform, they shouldn't afraid of those countries. The power of the USA forces them to play with looking at the government's hand. TBH, if there is a respect for big G& countrie's law then the laws by other Asian countries should be considered. Just my 2 cents.

[smyslov]

Hello, and thank you for the inquiry. We do have IP bans in place for USA, UK and all restricted regions. If someone uses a VPN to circumvent the IP ban, we cannot prevent them from registering for an account. Anyone signing up for an online casino should always check the terms of service and make sure they are eligible prior to signing up.

If someone has a Betcoin.ag account which was created before we received our license, they will still be able to login from their US, UK or AUS IPs, but new sign-ups will not.

If anyone has a question prior to creating an account at Betcoin.ag, we offer 24/7 support. Best of luck to you!

That is true only newbies will sign up without further checking if he is going to break the rules by his actions present and future, especially in the gambling industry the Cloudbet issue is one of the cases, which the complainant admitted that he really is in a location that is restricted to the gambling site, awareness is a big factor here you are playing with money here so you should know and aware of the gambling site rules.

[aioc]

Chips.gg is the second casino that reached out. According to them, they will discuss their platform setup internally, and I hope some IP bans can soon be introduced.

Thank you for sharing your concerns regarding the potential problems you feel this could cause players in the future. We appreciate you taking the time to share this and we will address this issue in our next development update.

This has become a big concern after we the many complaints about ban countries,  and casino administrators and developers should address this issue that every new gamblers should be made aware that they should not use to register and play with their site unless they are ok with playing only and not making money, but unfortunately when you are making money and you tried to withdraw it and you know  have broken the rules your turn the tide to the operators, and make them look ugly.

[DrG]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

It's mostly because the government wants their cut of the money at every possible transaction. They know that the overwhelming majority of gamblers are not declaring their winnings and most casinos don't report anything other than the massive wins and those people they already have address, bank accounts, fingerprints, etc.

You will find gambling laws in Asia vary greatly from one country to another. Two neighboring countries could have completely different philosophies.

[Pmalek]

Pmalek, Duelbits is not on this list.

Nope, I didn't randomly come across their ANN or notice their signature in this thread. That's how I picked the casinos in the first and second rounds of testing. But Duelbits was already tested yesterday. As soon as I complete the list with all 10 casinos for the 3rd round, I will post the results.

Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

No, not all. According to many casinos I have reviewed, there are plenty of Asian countries who are restricted. Mostly Islamic countries like Syria, Iraq, Iran... North Korea is often off-limits and many others. But the problem is that my VPN doesn't support most Asian locations so I have to exclude that whole region. It does support Turkey however. Singapore is also restricted on some platforms, but again, the problem is that my VPN doesn't support it. I could install additional VPNs, but it isn't a priority if there are plenty of other countries to pick from.     

[Pmalek]

The third round of testing casinos is done.
The results are posted below.

Casino	Restricted Countries	Active IP Ban
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21. CryptoThrills.io 22. Bitsler.com 23. Primedice.com 24. *BitDice.me 25. AceDBets.io 26. Duelbits.com 27. Windice.io 28. Bustabit.com 29. Tower.bet 30. BetBTC.co	No Info Available USA, France, Netherlands USA, UK, France UK, USA NO Info Available France, Netherlands, USA France, USA France, Netherlands, USA France, Netherlands, USA NO Info Available	All countries allowed according to customer support USA - YES France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - YES UK - YES France - YES UK - YES USA - YES - France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - YES France - NO USA - NO France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - YES France - NO Netherlands - NO USA - NO -

*Changes made to the results of BitDice's IP bans. More info is available here.

[Pmalek]

I reached out to BitDice yesterday to talk to them about my findings. The users BoXXoB and Juggy777 replied with some great additional information, which I was able to confirm is true as well. Users can register and open accounts from restricted locations, but they can't bet and play the games that are restricted to them. Accessing Dice, Blackjack, and Slots doesn't work with a US/UK IP.

I have therefore, adjusted my test results for BitDice.

Here are full quotes of their replies:

There's IP detection in place which prevents users from playing specific games that might be blocked in different countries. For example US and UK cannot play dice, slots etc. However there's also additional countries blocked by game providers so it was deemed appropriate that users can transact eg. deposit and withdraw without issues but not play if there's an issue with their IP address causing restrictions.

However, with the upcoming website, ToS as well as other things will be reviewed again which could be taken as an opportunity to clarify things.

EDIT: As you said blocking users from registering could be a viable option too and I brought it up with the management as a possibility to consider

@Pmalek after reading your post I decided to see if I could login via US VPN or no, and I too was able to login but the actual twist came when I tried to wager on Dice or Blackjack, because as you can see from the images below Bitdice won’t allow you to bet if it detects you’re from US. Furthermore this proves that Bitdice has a robust mechanism which not only detects user’s using US IP address, but it also prevents them from wagering on their site.

[dre1982]

Primedice also blocks users from the Netherlands, so you can add that to the blocked countries for them.

Wolf.bet gives a message that players from some countries aren't allowed (for me the Netherlands) but after refreshing that page you can still enter the site.

[peter0425]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

maybe because they wanted to promote Live casino than Online?they have Las Vegas in which the most famous gambling city in the world(though nowadays there are many cities and countries that promoting good gambling places)
But Asia welcoming Online gambling?
well maybe this is because the laws in each countries are not that tough and the government are gaining from this gambling operator.

[Pmalek]

Primedice also blocks users from the Netherlands, so you can add that to the blocked countries for them.

Yes, they restrict Dutch players and several other countries like Australia, Serbia, or Korea. But I only do my tests on 2-3 locations. Testing every single country would take too much time. Some Casinos block 10, 20 or even more locations. The list would simply be too long.

Wolf.bet gives a message that players from some countries aren't allowed (for me the Netherlands) but after refreshing that page you can still enter the site.

I haven't looked at Wolf.bet yet. They can be part of my next batch. If they display a warning message, that's fine. If the players decide to ignore it, it's their own fault. I think the casino has in that case done the minimum that is required. It would be optimal if the players couldn't access the site altogether.

[coupable]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

maybe because they wanted to promote Live casino than Online?they have Las Vegas in which the most famous gambling city in the world(though nowadays there are many cities and countries that promoting good gambling places)
But Asia welcoming Online gambling?
well maybe this is because the laws in each countries are not that tough and the government are gaining from this gambling operator.

Just like other services prohibitted users from US. We know this from participating in public crowdfunding ICOs or with some exchanges. This is mainly caused by the laws enforced by the US government to protect the American citizen wherever in the world. So to avoid being in problem with the US authorities that may occur from thin of air, not accepting users from US. Casinos may have the same reason with users from US.

[Pmalek]

This is mainly caused by the laws enforced by the US government to protect the American citizen wherever in the world. So to avoid being in problem with the US authorities that may occur from thin of air, not accepting users from US. Casinos may have the same reason with users from US.

I think that the biggest concern regarding US players is that online gambling used to be illegal on offshore online casinos. I am not sure if that is still the case. I think it's only sports betting that is still illegal, but US citizens can still play casino games online.

It is all very complicated with the Americans. You have the Federal Law, than you have State Laws which differ from state to state and everyone interprets them differently. It is all a big mess and I think even online casinos don't know what is allowed and what not. So the easiest approach is to simply restrict all US players to avoid issues further down the line.

Anyone here from the US who can give us a proper insight regarding online and offshore gambling in their country?   

[Pmalek]

I have just completed the forth round of casino testing.
Here are the results.

Casino	Restricted Countries	Active IP Ban
_____________________________	_____________________________	___________________________________________
31. Fairlay.com 32. Wolf.bet 33. Playbetr.com 34. Betfury.io 35. CoinDragon.com 36. Paradice.in 37. ForuneToWin.com 38. EarnBet.io 39. Buff.bet 40. CasinoExtreme.eu	USA USA, France, Netherlands USA, UK, Netherlands No Info USA, Netherlands USA, UK UK, France, Netherlands USA, France, Netherlands Germany, USA, UK France	USA - NO USA - YES France - NO Netherlands - NO USA - YES UK - YES Netherlands - YES - USA - YES Netherlands - YES USA - NO UK - NO UK - YES France - YES Netherlands - YES USA - NO France - NO Netherlands - NO Germany - NO USA - NO UK - NO France - NO

[Vishnu.Reang]

I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe. Personally I am using the VPN provided by Kaspersky, which comes along with their anti-virus suite. It has a long list of IPs from dozens of different countries to select from. Even going for KYC can be ineffective. In the dark market, you can find KYC documents for as little as $10.

[cryptoperkele]

Good work! I don't have a vpn to test these myself, can i leave requests for testing? I am interested if restrictions are in place for "mining" sites like Earnbet (ex eosbet), Betfury and Bethash. And that conclusions i should draw if gambling sites don't have these ip restrictions in place?

[Pmalek]

I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe.

If you cheat and lie to the casino about where you are from, it's your own fault what happens afterwards. But if you use a VPN for privacy reasons, but you are not located in a restricted jurisdiction, that is OK.

IP restrictions show that the casinos have made some effort to prevent those who shouldn't be on their sites from signing up and gambling there. I have read stories of players from restricted countries being successful in registering at a casino, depositing money, losing bets, with no problems. But when they won something, the casinos started asking questions who they are, and where they are from. If it was discovered they were from a country whose players aren't allowed at that casino, they had their winnings/funds confiscated.

I am interested if restrictions are in place for "mining" sites like Earnbet (ex eosbet), Betfury and Bethash.

I had a look at BetFury but they don't have any info in their TOS regarding restricted countries.

And that conclusions i should draw if gambling sites don't have these ip restrictions in place?

It doesn't have to mean anything or it can mean everything, depends on how you look at it. Maybe they just forgot to implement it, maybe they don't care or consider it an important feature. Maybe they rely on the fact that it is the player's responsibility to read the rules and TOS and adhere to them (which it is). Or maybe they are malicious and haven't done it on purpose. Hoping that players will register and lose. In case they win, they can request KYC and other proof of who the players are and confiscate their winnings if they are from a restricted location.   

[BITCOIN4X]

I am pleased to know that these sites do not restrict my country from playing on their sites regardless of that gambling is a prohibited activity in my country under applicable law. The problem is the internet network provider that I use has restricted some of these site so I have to use a VPN to play there. I know that some gambling site prohibit users from using VPN to cross country block, will it be a problem if I use VPN to bypass internet provider restrictions ?

[Pmalek]

@BITCOIN4X
If online or crypto gambling is prohibited in your country, you should know that many casinos have rules that prohibits users who reside in jurisdictions where online gambling isn't allowed from playing at their site. You should check the TOS of the casinos you gamble at and contact customer support if you are in doubt. Some casinos don't allow the use of VPN software, while others don't mind it. Again, it is best to get in touch with their costumer service team to get the correct info from them.

[bryant.coleman]

I am pleased to know that these sites do not restrict my country from playing on their sites regardless of that gambling is a prohibited activity in my country under applicable law. The problem is the internet network provider that I use has restricted some of these site so I have to use a VPN to play there. I know that some gambling site prohibit users from using VPN to cross country block, will it be a problem if I use VPN to bypass internet provider restrictions ?

Pmalek had already answered this question in a previous post. You need to check the T&C for each of these online casinos. If they explicitly state that they don't have any geographical restriction, then you are good to go. But normally they will be providing a list of countries, from where the user registration is not possible. You may still be able to place your bets, but issues may arise when you try to withdraw the funds to your bank account.

[michellee]

I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe. Personally I am using the VPN provided by Kaspersky, which comes along with their anti-virus suite. It has a long list of IPs from dozens of different countries to select from. Even going for KYC can be ineffective. In the dark market, you can find KYC documents for as little as $10.

I won't do that because I am afraid the site can catch me because of the fake document. If you don't want to fill KYC documents, you should search for the other gambling site, so you don't have to fill the KYC. The @OP already update the list, but as long as we have a VPN, we can change the IP and visit the site to playing gambling. Sometimes I use a VPN too to playing gambling, especially if I see that one site blocks my connection, and that will not be a problem for me to playing gambling on that site.

[Pmalek]

Sometimes I use a VPN too to playing gambling, especially if I see that one site blocks my connection, and that will not be a problem for me to playing gambling on that site.

If a casino blocks your connection, there is a reason for that. If you use a VPN, yes you will be able to bypass the geo restriction, but you can create more problems for yourself later. Try to find a platform that doesn't block your original IP or your country. If you are unlucky, you could have your winnings taken away from you, your account blocked for lying about your whereabouts, or for using a VPN. Casinos have the right to protect their interest, and they will to exactly that.

[Alucard1]

Nice list, thank you for sharing this good information to all of us, Among all the lists, Roobet is the only one that I have tried and there are so many games that is restricted in my country. Among all of the games in the slot games, only 4 games are available. I just wonder and thinking, why this thing happen or why they are banning some games for different countries, so the thing that I am doing is using the VPN but so I can try some other games.

[bitterguy28]

Very informative Topic and will save time and money of gamblers from around the world if this Thread cross their attention.

because of restrictions some gamblers has an issue in withdrawal or even depositing as their country is banned in certain Sites or certain games.

With this Thread at least they can check the availabilities and prevent engaging in sites that has issue in their places.

Thanks for this OP will always check this for updates .

[SmokerFace]

I wonder why the UK and USA are restricted to using the casino's site. But they can still access the websites by using the proxy/VPN. Here's in my country most casino websites are banned. Our government is against the casino due to some reason, but I still can bet on a different website. I don't see its a big problem it can easily be solved with some tricks

[Pmalek]

so the thing that I am doing is using the VPN but so I can try some other games.

I don't see its a big problem it can easily be solved with some tricks

You guys don't seem to understand the issue here so I will repeat it again. If your country is restricted from a certain casino or the majority of them, there is a reason for that. You can ask the casino support why that is, turn to the game developers for advice, ask your government or local gambling commission about it or google it. That doesn't mean that you should try and find tricks and other way to plot your way inside a casino. You are putting your hands in the fire, eventually you will get burned and start complaining. 

[bryant.coleman]

I wonder why the UK and USA are restricted to using the casino's site. But they can still access the websites by using the proxy/VPN. Here's in my country most casino websites are banned. Our government is against the casino due to some reason, but I still can bet on a different website. I don't see its a big problem it can easily be solved with some tricks

In case online gambling is banned in your country, then you should be very careful while placing your bets. It may be possible for you to deposit funds, and to play casino games. But when you try to withdraw the winning amount, there is a good chance that the casino would reject your request, citing the ban on online gambling in your country. Not all the gambling sites follow this method, but there are some who are infamous for creating issues like this.

[dre1982]

At Bitsler I get sometimes normal access to the site here in the Netherlands. Normally I get the message that my country is blocked but sometimes not and then I can just play without using a VPN. I will try to find out when it happens. Maybe you need to take some steps to bypass the block.

[Pmalek]

At Bitsler I get sometimes normal access to the site here in the Netherlands. Normally I get the message that my country is blocked but sometimes not and then I can just play without using a VPN. I will try to find out when it happens. Maybe you need to take some steps to bypass the block.

Bitsler doesn't support players based in The Netherlands according to what is written in their TOS. I have tested the site with an IP from The Netherlands and there is a notification that says you have been recognized from a non-supported country, or the site redirects you to a message that says you aren't allowed to play there. You can continue to cheat the system and risk whatever might be coming your way, or find a casino that doesn't restrict Dutch players.   

[carlisle1]

I'm curious why they ban these countries, which would benefit their business in revenue, and USA has a large volume of high rollers gambler's.

Because those Countries Regulation is against the specific gambling site,their Laws will conflict of Interest of those said Nation so rather than Having trouble they are banning them so to prevent further issue though there are Hard headed gamblers that Using VPN or other way to prevent the banning and in the end their account will be freeezed because of using VPN and who is the loser?of course gamblers always.

But its alarming how must of the popular gambling sites allows deposit but doesn't let withdrawal of users funds. They should be considered as red flag in the community.

This is the continuation of what i am saying above,That using VPN and Multiple account is mostly the given reason of the Site while Many of these case proven that the Said gambling site are only trying to Keep the funds.

[bitterguy28]

I'm curious why they ban these countries, which would benefit their business in revenue, and USA has a large volume of high rollers gambler's.
But its alarming how must of the popular gambling sites allows deposit but doesn't let withdrawal of users funds. They should be considered as red flag in the community.

Well as a gambling site they wanted to accommodate every gamblers in the world because that is what gambling operators want ,the more they gather players the more money they can bag,but the problem is Laws regarding gambling that they need to obey or else they will suffer and Business will be stop.

[Pmalek]

I'm curious why they ban these countries, which would benefit their business in revenue, and USA has a large volume of high rollers gambler's.

carlisle1 and bitterguy28 responded to you regarding this issue already, so I am not going to repeat what they already said. Furthermore, it is not just the casinos who ban certain countries and jurisdictions. Many game providers have restrictions and ban certain countries themselves. So if a casino wants to include their games on its platform, they have no other choice but to respect those limitations and geo restrictions. On top of that, gaming licenses require strict controls and have their own bans as well.   

[peter0425]

I'm curious why they ban these countries, which would benefit their business in revenue, and USA has a large volume of high rollers gambler's.

carlisle1 and bitterguy28 responded to you regarding this issue already, so I am not going to repeat what they already said. Furthermore, it is not just the casinos who ban certain countries and jurisdictions. Many game providers have restrictions and ban certain countries themselves. So if a casino wants to include their games on its platform, they have no other choice but to respect those limitations and geo restrictions. On top of that, gaming licenses require strict controls and have their own bans as well.   

Because they will choose to ban certain country or games than their business will be at stake, each operation needs rules to follow for them to continue operational and this is what those casino tend to do.
So if there is a Casino offering games in countries in which prohibits that game then make a choice because those are mostly shill casinos and will surely give you problem once you win big and need withdrawals because they will use these issue to ban your account or locked .
so be cautious about each gambling site we will be betting because many are here to scam people.

[acquafredda]

Is there a reason why crypto.games is not considered for this list? AFAIK they allow users to play mostly from anywhere in the world (do not know about sign ups though) but they deny depositing from restricted jurisdictions. Maybe you want to add that to the list  

[Pmalek]

@acquafredda
I select the sites randomly. I just didn't come across them when I performed the tests in rounds 1-4. Many sites are missing, and I haven't performed a new round of testing since October. I am focusing on some other things now, but I will come back to this again.

Any other sites I should check?

Regarding restricted countries on crypto.games, there are actually quite a lot.

Here is what their TOS says:

Registration is prohibited to residents of:

Australia,
Aruba,
Belgium,
Bonaire,
Colombia,
Curacao,
Cyprus,
Czechia,
Denmark,
Estonia,
France,
Greece,
Hungary,
Hong Kong,
Iran,
Ireland,
Israel,
Italy,
Malta,
Mexico,
North Korea,
Romania,
Saba,
Sint Eustatius,
Sint Maarten,
Slovakia,
Slovenia,
South Africa,
Spain,
Syria,
Turkey,
The Netherlands,
United States,
United States Territories,
United Kingdom,

https://crypto.games/

[imstillthebest]

Is there a reason why crypto.games is not considered for this list? AFAIK they allow users to play mostly from anywhere in the world (do not know about sign ups though) but they deny depositing from restricted jurisdictions. Maybe you want to add that to the list  

maybe they have changed now and updated thier list of restricted countries because @pmalek came up with a long list of countries that are not allowed to play on cryptogames .

 im lucky that my county are not in the list because im also a fan of this site but those that are on the list are unlucky .
 most countries that they restrict are rich countries , its a waste of profit for them .

[acquafredda]

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I see and that is indeed a very huge list! After they implemented KYC and got a license they started playing safe by restricting many more countries (allowed elsewhere) and even blocking deposits from these countries. What I do not understand is how they do that and others do not considering they have the same license (Curaçao).

[Renampun]

*I live in a Southeast Asian country, there are few crypto gambling sites that are banned in my country...
from several crypto gambling sites that I have tried, I have to use VPN for sportbet.io, bitcasino.io, and 777coin. although I don't visit the site very often, it is very annoying when there is a big event that I want to participate there.

[Pmalek]

What I do not understand is how they do that and others do not considering they have the same license (Curaçao).

According to some sources, citizens of these countries are restricted from playing at Curacao licensed casinos:

Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France, The Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, USA

The list however extends depending on the location the casino is registered in and what game providers it cooperates with. Countries where certain or all forms of online gambling is illegal are also restricted. For example:

Brunei, China, UAE, Lebanon, Poland, North Korea, Cambodia, Singapore, Japan, Qatar and Turkey.

Then you have to take into consideration that each gaming provider has its own list of restricted jurisdictions. It can turn into a huge administrative nightmare.

Read more about it below:
https://www.curacaowebhosting.com/2018/05/18/where-can-a-curacao-gambling-license-be-used/
https://www.quora.com/Which-countries-specifically-does-a-Curacao-eGaming-License-legally-allow-you-to-operate

*I live in a Southeast Asian country, there are few crypto gambling sites that are banned in my country...
from several crypto gambling sites that I have tried, I have to use VPN for sportbet.io, bitcasino.io, and 777coin.

Are you aware that you are breaking their TOS and if they find out that you are using a VPN or gambling from a restricted jurisdiction they can take away your winnings and maybe the deposited funds as well? + you will probably have to undergo KYC, so you are losing your privacy in the process as well.

[acquafredda]

What I do not understand is how they do that and others do not considering they have the same license (Curaçao).

According to some sources, citizens of these countries are restricted from playing at Curacao licensed casinos:

Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, France, The Netherlands, Saba, Statia, St. Maarten, Singapore, USA

The list however extends depending on the location the casino is registered in and what game providers it cooperates with. Countries where certain or all forms of online gambling is illegal are also restricted. For example:

Brunei, China, UAE, Lebanon, Poland, North Korea, Cambodia, Singapore, Japan, Qatar and Turkey.

Then you have to take into consideration that each gaming provider has its own list of restricted jurisdictions. It can turn into a huge administrative nightmare.

Read more about it below:
https://www.curacaowebhosting.com/2018/05/18/where-can-a-curacao-gambling-license-be-used/
https://www.quora.com/Which-countries-specifically-does-a-Curacao-eGaming-License-legally-allow-you-to-operate

Excellent recap! Cannot merit you, but I will at some point. It is a nightmare for players really because I used to have such fun on the old bitcoin casinos (2012-4) where it was possible to play and just have fun (prices where low, and nobody would have thought that one day could have become a fortune).
I believed that p2p gambling and decentralized gambling platforms would have emerged at some point but this was not the case. Or, at least, I do not know such platforms.

[Bitcoinislife09]

I've tried to login into ROOBET.COM using the Singapore and USA server, it looks like it doesn't work as well it says "Sorry, Robert isn't available in your region Due to our gaming license, we cannot accept players from your jurisdiction". I didn't know what is the problem or maybe it is in the VPN that is using the United Kingdom seems to work but I have some issues when it comes to loading the website but it doesn't say that it is not available but it doesn't load in the loading page of roobet, my internet connection seems to be fine.

[madnessteat]

*I live in a Southeast Asian country, there are few crypto gambling sites that are banned in my country...
from several crypto gambling sites that I have tried, I have to use VPN for sportbet.io, bitcasino.io, and 777coin. although I don't visit the site very often, it is very annoying when there is a big event that I want to participate there.

As Pmalek pointed out above, you are taking a big risk by using VPN to play on sites that prohibit you from playing. I'm sure that almost all casinos keep logs and collect a database for each registered account. If you use IP addresses of different countries then at any time they can be interested in you and check your identity.

[TheGreatPython]

I wonder why the UK and USA are restricted to using the casino's site. But they can still access the websites by using the proxy/VPN. Here's in my country most casino websites are banned. Our government is against the casino due to some reason, but I still can bet on a different website. I don't see its a big problem it can easily be solved with some tricks

But, those tricks will get you into trouble like Pmalek also mentioned because you will bypass some security for now although as soon as you win something big or anything happens like that you will be asked for your identity and then you are left with 2 options.

1- Fake your identity: This would mean you are digging a hole even deeper as they get a solid reason to ban and forfeit your winnings along with deposited amount.

2- Accept the mistake: Most of the times casinos will not give you any chance and just gobble up your money.

It is a lose-lose situation for a player and the tricks you are talking about, its not like you are telling something unique, even the underage kids now know about VPNs.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I wonder why the UK and USA are restricted to using the casino's site. But they can still access the websites by using the proxy/VPN. Here's in my country most casino websites are banned. Our government is against the casino due to some reason, but I still can bet on a different website. I don't see its a big problem it can easily be solved with some tricks

But, those tricks will get you into trouble like Pmalek also mentioned because you will bypass some security for now although as soon as you win something big or anything happens like that you will be asked for your identity and then you are left with 2 options.

1- Fake your identity: This would mean you are digging a hole even deeper as they get a solid reason to ban and forfeit your winnings along with deposited amount.

2- Accept the mistake: Most of the times casinos will not give you any chance and just gobble up your money.

It is a lose-lose situation for a player and the tricks you are talking about, its not like you are telling something unique, even the underage kids now know about VPNs.

And after all this happens, it is when the threads of scams are opened, where they accuse the casinos of having stolen their money, while the casino blocks those funds. Really in Crypto and especially in casinos there should be no ban in countries. If some countries have already banned traditional casinos and the only way out is to search through the platforms and the platforms prohibit it, I think they would stop receiving a large number of customers.

[Pmalek]

I've tried to login into ROOBET.COM using the Singapore and USA server, it looks like it doesn't work as well it says "Sorry, Robert isn't available in your region Due to our gaming license, we cannot accept players from your jurisdiction". I didn't know what is the problem or maybe it is in the VPN that is using the United Kingdom seems to work...

The United States and Singapore are on the list of restricted countries on Roobet. So is United Kingdom, so you shouldn't be able to log in from a UK IP address either. I experienced similar things when I tested Roobet. I wasn't able to log in to the site with a US IP, but I had no problems logging in with a German and Dutch IP. The IP blocks don't seem to work properly in all countries for some reason.   

[Pmalek]

Bump

[ryzaadit]

Due see someone has a problem with restriction issue country on my one casino currently play, search this topic for discussing the purpose and finally found it still opened. I tested for "DuelBits". In the thread, they have restricted IP for the Netherlands, USA and France say Yes have some restricted country. Seem like the IP block not working anymore, I tested with IP from USA & France using VPN still can be opened.

[Pmalek]

Seem like the IP block not working anymore, I tested with IP from USA & France using VPN still can be opened.

I just did a quick test with a French IP address and the restrictions seem to be still active. Try with another VPN provider or different server. Maybe the site doesn't recognize it as a French IP, but one from an allowed neighboring country. Also check your IP on https://www.myip.com/ or a similar site to make sure it displays it from the correct country.

Here is what I get:


 

[ryzaadit]

-snip-

Thanks anyway for your response sorry for really late to reply.

You're right, the problem is from the VPN tested with my ip even the IP & Country already change still can access the website. I currently change my VPN to AnonymousX and yeah this is what I got with US IP.

Due to our gambling license, Duelbits does not accept players from your country.

For any questions, please contact support@duelbits.com

[RealMalatesta]

I've tried to login into ROOBET.COM using the Singapore and USA server, it looks like it doesn't work as well it says "Sorry, Robert isn't available in your region Due to our gaming license, we cannot accept players from your jurisdiction". I didn't know what is the problem or maybe it is in the VPN that is using the United Kingdom seems to work...

The United States and Singapore are on the list of restricted countries on Roobet. So is United Kingdom, so you shouldn't be able to log in from a UK IP address either. I experienced similar things when I tested Roobet. I wasn't able to log in to the site with a US IP, but I had no problems logging in with a German and Dutch IP. The IP blocks don't seem to work properly in all countries for some reason.   

Good spot and I think stake doesn't accept members from Singapore either because a few days back I was using VPN and I think it got connected to Singapore and then I was unable to even claim my reloads. In case anyone here wonders why I am using VPN to access stake, that is because their owner himself approved of using VPN.

There are people in the chat who often complain they cannot play certain slots because of country restrictions so a lot of games, specifically slots, are restricted to some users based on their country.

Although your intent is good, I don't think most casinos would IP ban players from a specific country because players might be using VPN and some players are affiliate only so if the site bans IP, they won't be able to even claim their commissions.

[Pmalek]

<Snip>

If the Stake team doesn't mind that you use a VPN, then you have nothing to worry about and you can continue using one. But are you sure that they would allow you to play a slot game with a VPN because your original territory is banned by the operator? Have you asked them specifically about this?

It's one thing to use a VPN to gamble and mask your identity and whereabouts.
It's different if you are cheating the game operator by connecting from a different IP address.

If I were you, I would ask the customer support or the owner (if you know him) if what you are doing is OK, so that you don't run into problems if you win big money one day and suddenly questions are being asked who you are and where you are from. 

[john_nautica]

Thank you, this thread is very useful I hope you would add or maybe create another thread on which gambling site would allow user to use VPN so some people would be able to use a secure connection I'll try to play with these sites with VPN. This could be risky.

[Pmalek]

I hope you would add or maybe create another thread on which gambling site would allow user to use VPN so some people would be able to use a secure connection I'll try to play with these sites with VPN.

I don't know, it's too controversial. Casinos can change those rules anytime, and in case a player gets into trouble for using a VPN on a platform that no longer allows it, they'll say Pmalek said it's fine, it's his fault, we trusted him, he is a lier, etc. People always find a way to shift the blame on someone else.

[Pmalek]

I am considering updating this thread and adding some new casinos to it. I realize that there are plenty of sites that are missing. Especially new casinos that went live after the thread was started. But before I do that, I would like to hear from the community are they even interested in reading it? Do you want to see which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted territories that warn you that you aren't supposed to be there, or don't you care about it at all?

[Hamphser]

I am considering updating this thread and adding some new casinos to it. I realize that there are plenty of sites that are missing. Especially new casinos that went live after the thread was started. But before I do that, I would like to hear from the community are they even interested in reading it? Do you want to see which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted territories that warn you that you aren't supposed to be there, or don't you care about it at all?

For me then it would be just fine if you do make out some updates specially there are several gambling casinos that had popped out in the market and getting quite good number of users.

Most of gamblers are really that lazy on reading up TOS which it includes these kind of restrictions then it would be good if you do continue this thread
if you do really have that sufficient time. 

[Mahdirakib]

<snip>

It will be helpful to have the data of restricted countries of different crypto casino in a single place. Newbie people occasionally create threads in gambling board to know that which casino is available for their region. This topic will give them enough information about it if you update this topic on regular basis. Add new casino details in the list what you have already planned. But firstly you need to remove some casino from the list while you will have the time to update it

• Coins777.com (Scam accusations and OP have negative feedback from DT members)
• 7XL.co (ANN thread is locked by OP. And browser giving a safety warning message while I'm trying to access the site. Look like suspicious, kindly check them out.)
• AceDBets.io (I believe you are aware of the unsolved issues/accusations of this casino)
• BetBTC.co (This site is closed now and it was announced by the OP.)

[Pmalek]

For me then it would be just fine if you do make out some updates specially there are several gambling casinos that had popped out in the market and getting quite good number of users.

Yeah, I am missing many new sites but also some of the older ones that I have listed in my other threads. I will check it out.

Most of gamblers are really that lazy on reading up TOS which it includes these kind of restrictions then it would be good if you do continue this thread
if you do really have that sufficient time. 

They aren't going to get much help out of my thread if they don't show any initiative on their end. This discussion won't show them where to play and where not to. But it serves as a good reference to see how serious certain casinos are in warning and preventing players from restricted countries to register and play.

But firstly you need to remove some casino from the list while you will have the time to update it...

Yeah, that makes sense. I will check out the names in OP and remove those that shouldn't be there for various reasons. 
Thanks!

[Pmalek]

Bump after a long time...

[CDC AP]

I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe. Personally I am using the VPN provided by Kaspersky, which comes along with their anti-virus suite. It has a long list of IPs from dozens of different countries to select from. Even going for KYC can be ineffective. In the dark market, you can find KYC documents for as little as $10.

[Pmalek]

I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe.

The IP ban is supposed to show you that you aren't allowed to gamble at that particular casino because of your geographical location. Those who don't want to break the rules, will respect that and go elsewhere. No one said that it's impossible to circumvent IP blocks, and that's not the topic of discussion. It's my opinion and that of many others that IP blocks or notifications should warn players that they shouldn't be there. If you want to cheat your way around that by using VPNs or abusing some poor bastards stolen/hacked ID card, that's your call.