Which casinos have IP blocks in place for restricted countries?

[fiulpro]

Using VPN can cause a serious harm for your profile. If you are using it and the casino have a no VPN policy, you can loose all your funds and even be banned from further use.

I believe before doing this , the casinos should not let players even play , since when you say how the issue is coming during the withdrawal of funds I believe this looks bad on the part of the casino itself.

1. Casinos needs to regulate it primarily level , people from the restricted countries should not be able to play withdrawal is something else.

2. People should not use VPN to access any services like these since they can very easily be spotted thus it would cause problems for them only.

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But then again I agree with the point that players might use VPN to protect their privacy since gambling in cryptocurrencies values privacy a lot. But I do think that if this happens and players are getting caught using the VPN , they should ask them for their nationality proof before banning and freezing their funds.

[dimonstration]

Players consciously break the rules by using VPNs, that is true. However, some players use VPNs to protect their privacy. They aren't located in a restricted location, but they don't want to gamble using their real IPs. This is understandable. In that case, they have to be careful not to use a VPN from a location that is not allowed.

VPN been widely used nowadays not just in casinos or restricted websites but also for security concerns, though there were times when overused or not paid VPN this is not working effectively. There are many casinos that are restricted in many countries but we're all still able to play, thanks to VPN but don't depend too much as some VPN may not be legit enough to secure you. I wonder if there is already a solution in detecting it for those casinos that have restrictions.

[Pmalek]

There are many casinos that are restricted in many countries but we're all still able to play, thanks to VPN

Yes, but you shouldn't do that mate for the many reasons stated in this thread. If you are using a VPN to bypass the restrictions, you are consciously  breaking the user agreement. For any future issues, like problems with withdrawals and confiscation of funds, you will only have yourself to blame.  


Betnomi has shown a willingness to make some changes. They are planning to introduce pop-up notifications, warning users who are accessing the site from a restricted location.

These are their replies:

We will remove the geo block from all countries. These are all restricted countries but, we have other applications and services running on our subdomains which are not restricted in these countries and with the geo blocks, the subdomains are inaccessible as well. For this reason, the website will be accessible from all countries but we will have a pop up displayed notifying/warning users from restricted countries.
Feel free to let us know if you have further questions and good job on creating an informative topic found that be be useful.

No, players from jurisdictions that are restricted are totally not allowed to play on our website. After the geo block is removed. We will give a warning to users visiting from restricted area to refrain from doing so and put in measure such as hiding login and signup buttons for such users. We are not advocating for anyone to break the law.

[RHavar]

For any future issues, like problems with withdrawals and confiscation of funds, you will only have yourself to blame.

I strongly disagree. I no longer run a casino, but when I did I went through the process of two different gambling licenses and spoke to many lawyers. I can't speak about all jurisdictions, but I am not aware of anywhere that says a casino should pocket the funds of people who violate the terms of service.

I think this view has been validated by devans (the owner/operator of bustabit/bustadice):

Outside of extreme edge cases like being compelled to by a court order, bustabit will never prevent users from accessing their funds.

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

[DrG]

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

Imagine winning a nice jackpot only to have the hosting casino ask you for ID for tax filings. You can kiss your winnings goodbye. Plan accordingly.

[Pmalek]

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

I have read about casinos returning the original deposits to the players, but seizing all profits they make. Such an action would surely make violators think twice whether or not they will do it again. What would happen after the "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here"? Would they be allowed to withdraw all the money and continue breaking the rules by creating new accounts? It looks like the worst thing that can happen is that the casino closes their account, players get a slap on the wrists, and all their earnings are paid back after that.

I don't agree with that. I don't agree with casinos cheating their players, but I don't agree with players deliberately cheating casinos either.

I am getting a bit off topic here. The point of discussion is which casinos are trying to restrict players from certain jurisdictions, and how are they doing it? Which casinos aren't, and why not?

[abel1337]

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

I have read about casinos returning the original deposits to the players, but seizing all profits they make. Such an action would surely make violators think twice whether or not they will do it again. What would happen after the "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here"? Would they be allowed to withdraw all the money and continue breaking the rules by creating new accounts? It looks like the worst thing that can happen is that the casino closes their account, players get a slap on the wrists, and all their earnings are paid back after that.

I don't agree with that. I don't agree with casinos cheating their players, but I don't agree with players deliberately cheating casinos either.

I am getting a bit off topic here. The point of discussion is which casinos are trying to restrict players from certain jurisdictions, and how are they doing it? Which casinos aren't, and why not?

Restricted players and casinos would literally abuse each other if they are justifying these points with each other, Both parties trying to find a loophole with their rights and declared rules. I can agree about the idea about returning all the deposit to the violator, All of the loopholes will be gone both parties will not have a problem with that, and I think it's being fair with each other.

There are only a few ways for a casino to identify if their players are from the banned countries those methods do have a little bit of backslash in the casino like (1) If the casino requires KYC to their new customer, they will certainly lose some of their players since most of us cryptocurrency users doesnt want to give our identities (2) If they identify if the player uses VPN from accessing their casino on a restricted country, which can lead into issues about the casino.


I strongly suggest that IP ban is necessary as a precaution for players.

[carlisle1]

It seems like USA and UK has the most restricted countries for the casinos. I don't know about their national policies but it seems hard to pass to those policies. Here in my country, I don't know they they restrict any casino since they could just put their hand to it and get tax out of it. It's just a matter of regulation and licensure right? or a lot complicated than these countries?

Same as Germany and Netherlands mate since those 4 are the most mentioned countries added are UK territories also.

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

But will the Gambling sites concern about this ?i don't think so because the more players enters their sites is the more income they got.
so why bother about the VPN usage from each countries.

Imagine winning a nice jackpot only to have the hosting casino ask you for ID for tax filings. You can kiss your winnings goodbye. Plan accordingly.

Well this is why we must be responsible in using casino sites,or much better to play in Real life for more safer gambling habits.

[DrG]

It seems like USA and UK has the most restricted countries for the casinos. I don't know about their national policies but it seems hard to pass to those policies. Here in my country, I don't know they they restrict any casino since they could just put their hand to it and get tax out of it. It's just a matter of regulation and licensure right? or a lot complicated than these countries?

Same as Germany and Netherlands mate since those 4 are the most mentioned countries added are UK territories also.

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

But will the Gambling sites concern about this ?i don't think so because the more players enters their sites is the more income they got.
so why bother about the VPN usage from each countries.

Imagine winning a nice jackpot only to have the hosting casino ask you for ID for tax filings. You can kiss your winnings goodbye. Plan accordingly.

Well this is why we must be responsible in using casino sites,or much better to play in Real life for more safer gambling habits.

Typically governments will give gambling establishments some leeway if they've shown they've made reasonable attempts to keep unauthorized people from accessing their site. If the casino clearly presents which people can use the site and also actively bans users from restricted countries and still somebody manages to use their site, they're usually off the hook from government prosecution. A casino failing to do so cannot plead ignorance of the law since ignorance is not a valid excuse in most courts of law (sure it works for the rich and powerful, but not average business or lay person). So no casino should be letting a wider audience use their platform at the expense of possible criminal charges and possible loss of operations - at least not a sane one.

[kotajikikox]

Players consciously break the rules by using VPNs, that is true. However, some players use VPNs to protect their privacy. They aren't located in a restricted location, but they don't want to gamble using their real IPs. This is understandable. In that case, they have to be careful not to use a VPN from a location that is not allowed.

VPN been widely used nowadays not just in casinos or restricted websites but also for security concerns, though there were times when overused or not paid VPN this is not working effectively. There are many casinos that are restricted in many countries but we're all still able to play, thanks to VPN but don't depend too much as some VPN may not be legit enough to secure you. I wonder if there is already a solution in detecting it for those casinos that have restrictions.

Yeah actually i stopped using VPN because of sometimes it just stop providing signal and in the end i will be needing to use my regular net so what's the main purpose.
or maybe i have just using a not so good VPN provider.
if there is someone who has a Good one please kindly share .
Though i don't really need to use this in casino or gambling cases because our country is open in any kind of gambling and even those illegal casino online can operate freely here without being banned,or maybe my government is just lazy finding them.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Primedice and BitDice do not allow players from the United States. BitDice also does not allow UK players.

[peter0425]

Primedice and BitDice do not allow players from the United States. BitDice also does not allow UK players.

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

but i believe that some players still plays using VPN in those sites right?not sure about this but i heard sometime in a group that they can still play even they are from those places.

[Genemind]

Thanks for sharing your research, this will be a good thread and I hope you will continuously add more casinos and details about your research to help other players check about sites country restrictions. Let's face it that majority of gamblers don't read through TOS and end up having their accounts frozen due to IP restrictions. US and UK are strict with online gambling, I guess most people in these countries are using VPN to access gambling sites. The main problem if ever they will need to undergo sudden KYC as per the platforms request.

[Pmalek]

Primedice and BitDice do not allow players from the United States. BitDice also does not allow UK players.

Thanks for taking part. I will check these 2 casinos as well soon.

but i believe that some players still plays using VPN in those sites right?

I am sure that many do. The same way I was able to mask my IP with a US IP, someone else can mask his US IP with one from a country that is allowed. But for what? They will only be creating problems for themselves if at one time they get asked to identify themselves.

Thanks for sharing your research, this will be a good thread and I hope you will continuously add more casinos and details about your research to help other players check about sites country restrictions.

I am planning to do a 3rd batch soon. Probably when I have some more time and select some random casinos.

[hulla]

VPNs can reasonably be used for security purposes but using to violate the TOS of a hosting casino

To avoid future complications, I dont support the use of VPN to access gambling site either for security purpose or not and it always better to access gambling site using the private browser mode.

allows the online casino to follow their government's protocol for closing accounts and sometimes seizure of assets.

No, they follow the rules and regulations of the master license of gaming services provider.
Pmalek, Duelbits is not on this list.

[Saint-loup]

For any future issues, like problems with withdrawals and confiscation of funds, you will only have yourself to blame.

I strongly disagree. I no longer run a casino, but when I did I went through the process of two different gambling licenses and spoke to many lawyers. I can't speak about all jurisdictions, but I am not aware of anywhere that says a casino should pocket the funds of people who violate the terms of service.

I think this view has been validated by devans (the owner/operator of bustabit/bustadice):

Outside of extreme edge cases like being compelled to by a court order, bustabit will never prevent users from accessing their funds.

If a user violates the terms of the service, it's totally reasonable for a casino to say "sorry, but you are no longer welcome to play here". But seizing their account balance seems insane and an obvious conflict of interest (if it's just pocketed) and should not be normalized

Thank you for doing this post, I agree with you.
I think casinos seizing people funds when it's not obvious the user was fully aware of that rule and its consequences, are neither honest nor professional.
Casinos doing that should be denounced here.  

[kawetsriyanto]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

[Google+]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

I think from my knowledge in ASIA no one provides regulations on gambling it's just that everything is emphasized that when gambling has a very high risk and it is a personal responsibility not the state so that until now many are still running the gambling business.

[StephenJH]

Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.

Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

IMHO, there are gambling banned Asian countries(China, Singapore) but the gambling platforms don't feel "squeezed" by their laws. All forms of lottery and gambling are illegal for mentioned countries. If there is no regulator that can intervene in the activity of the gambling platform, they shouldn't afraid of those countries. The power of the USA forces them to play with looking at the government's hand. TBH, if there is a respect for big G& countrie's law then the laws by other Asian countries should be considered. Just my 2 cents.

[smyslov]

Hello, and thank you for the inquiry. We do have IP bans in place for USA, UK and all restricted regions. If someone uses a VPN to circumvent the IP ban, we cannot prevent them from registering for an account. Anyone signing up for an online casino should always check the terms of service and make sure they are eligible prior to signing up.

If someone has a Betcoin.ag account which was created before we received our license, they will still be able to login from their US, UK or AUS IPs, but new sign-ups will not.

If anyone has a question prior to creating an account at Betcoin.ag, we offer 24/7 support. Best of luck to you!

That is true only newbies will sign up without further checking if he is going to break the rules by his actions present and future, especially in the gambling industry the Cloudbet issue is one of the cases, which the complainant admitted that he really is in a location that is restricted to the gambling site, awareness is a big factor here you are playing with money here so you should know and aware of the gambling site rules.