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October 16, 2020, 02:15:22 AM
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Chips.gg is the second casino that reached out. According to them, they will discuss their platform setup internally, and I hope some IP bans can soon be introduced.

Thank you for sharing your concerns regarding the potential problems you feel this could cause players in the future. We appreciate you taking the time to share this and we will address this issue in our next development update.

This has become a big concern after we the many complaints about ban countries,  and casino administrators and developers should address this issue that every new gamblers should be made aware that they should not use to register and play with their site unless they are ok with playing only and not making money, but unfortunately when you are making money and you tried to withdraw it and you know  have broken the rules your turn the tide to the operators, and make them look ugly.

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October 16, 2020, 08:57:22 AM
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Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.
Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?


It's mostly because the government wants their cut of the money at every possible transaction. They know that the overwhelming majority of gamblers are not declaring their winnings and most casinos don't report anything other than the massive wins and those people they already have address, bank accounts, fingerprints, etc.

You will find gambling laws in Asia vary greatly from one country to another. Two neighboring countries could have completely different philosophies.
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October 16, 2020, 01:13:33 PM
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Pmalek, Duelbits is not on this list.
Nope, I didn't randomly come across their ANN or notice their signature in this thread. That's how I picked the casinos in the first and second rounds of testing. But Duelbits was already tested yesterday. As soon as I complete the list with all 10 casinos for the 3rd round, I will post the results.

Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?
No, not all. According to many casinos I have reviewed, there are plenty of Asian countries who are restricted. Mostly Islamic countries like Syria, Iraq, Iran... North Korea is often off-limits and many others. But the problem is that my VPN doesn't support most Asian locations so I have to exclude that whole region. It does support Turkey however. Singapore is also restricted on some platforms, but again, the problem is that my VPN doesn't support it. I could install additional VPNs, but it isn't a priority if there are plenty of other countries to pick from.     

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The third round of testing casinos is done.
The results are posted below.


CasinoRestricted CountriesActive IP Ban
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21. CryptoThrills.io

22. Bitsler.com



23. Primedice.com



24. *BitDice.me


25. AceDBets.io

26. Duelbits.com



27. Windice.io


28. Bustabit.com



29. Tower.bet



30. BetBTC.co
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USA, France, Netherlands



USA, UK, France



UK, USA


NO Info Available

France, Netherlands, USA



France, USA


France, Netherlands, USA



France, Netherlands, USA



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All countries allowed according to customer support

USA - YES
France - YES
Netherlands - YES


USA - YES
UK - YES
France - YES


UK - YES
USA - YES


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France - YES
Netherlands - YES
USA - YES


France - NO
USA - NO


France - YES
Netherlands - YES
USA - YES


France - NO
Netherlands - NO
USA - NO


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October 20, 2020, 01:17:05 PM
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I reached out to BitDice yesterday to talk to them about my findings. The users BoXXoB and Juggy777 replied with some great additional information, which I was able to confirm is true as well. Users can register and open accounts from restricted locations, but they can't bet and play the games that are restricted to them. Accessing Dice, Blackjack, and Slots doesn't work with a US/UK IP.

I have therefore, adjusted my test results for BitDice.

Here are full quotes of their replies:

There's IP detection in place which prevents users from playing specific games that might be blocked in different countries. For example US and UK cannot play dice, slots etc. However there's also additional countries blocked by game providers so it was deemed appropriate that users can transact eg. deposit and withdraw without issues but not play if there's an issue with their IP address causing restrictions.

However, with the upcoming website, ToS as well as other things will be reviewed again which could be taken as an opportunity to clarify things.

EDIT: As you said blocking users from registering could be a viable option too and I brought it up with the management as a possibility to consider

@Pmalek after reading your post I decided to see if I could login via US VPN or no, and I too was able to login but the actual twist came when I tried to wager on Dice or Blackjack, because as you can see from the images below Bitdice won’t allow you to bet if it detects you’re from US. Furthermore this proves that Bitdice has a robust mechanism which not only detects user’s using US IP address, but it also prevents them from wagering on their site.





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October 22, 2020, 07:13:59 AM
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Primedice also blocks users from the Netherlands, so you can add that to the blocked countries for them.

Wolf.bet gives a message that players from some countries aren't allowed (for me the Netherlands) but after refreshing that page you can still enter the site.



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October 22, 2020, 07:52:06 AM
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Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.
Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

maybe because they wanted to promote Live casino than Online?they have Las Vegas in which the most famous gambling city in the world(though nowadays there are many cities and countries that promoting good gambling places)
But Asia welcoming Online gambling?
well maybe this is because the laws in each countries are not that tough and the government are gaining from this gambling operator.









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October 22, 2020, 10:50:53 AM
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Primedice also blocks users from the Netherlands, so you can add that to the blocked countries for them.
Yes, they restrict Dutch players and several other countries like Australia, Serbia, or Korea. But I only do my tests on 2-3 locations. Testing every single country would take too much time. Some Casinos block 10, 20 or even more locations. The list would simply be too long.

Wolf.bet gives a message that players from some countries aren't allowed (for me the Netherlands) but after refreshing that page you can still enter the site.
I haven't looked at Wolf.bet yet. They can be part of my next batch. If they display a warning message, that's fine. If the players decide to ignore it, it's their own fault. I think the casino has in that case done the minimum that is required. It would be optimal if the players couldn't access the site altogether.

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Likes majority of the sites in which not allowing US and UK players.
Yep, especially in US, that's because the government prohibits online gambling there. We can easily find the answer by googling. I'm not surprised if gambling online is restricted in US since it is also the same happening in most crypto investment. Anyway, something that makes me interested in this restriction is no countries in ASIA on the list, except Turkey (the area is located both in Asia & Europe). Does it mean all countries in Asia welcome (friendly) to online gambling?

maybe because they wanted to promote Live casino than Online?they have Las Vegas in which the most famous gambling city in the world(though nowadays there are many cities and countries that promoting good gambling places)
But Asia welcoming Online gambling?
well maybe this is because the laws in each countries are not that tough and the government are gaining from this gambling operator.
Just like other services prohibitted users from US. We know this from participating in public crowdfunding ICOs or with some exchanges. This is mainly caused by the laws enforced by the US government to protect the American citizen wherever in the world. So to avoid being in problem with the US authorities that may occur from thin of air, not accepting users from US. Casinos may have the same reason with users from US.
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This is mainly caused by the laws enforced by the US government to protect the American citizen wherever in the world. So to avoid being in problem with the US authorities that may occur from thin of air, not accepting users from US. Casinos may have the same reason with users from US.
I think that the biggest concern regarding US players is that online gambling used to be illegal on offshore online casinos. I am not sure if that is still the case. I think it's only sports betting that is still illegal, but US citizens can still play casino games online.

It is all very complicated with the Americans. You have the Federal Law, than you have State Laws which differ from state to state and everyone interprets them differently. It is all a big mess and I think even online casinos don't know what is allowed and what not. So the easiest approach is to simply restrict all US players to avoid issues further down the line.

Anyone here from the US who can give us a proper insight regarding online and offshore gambling in their country?   

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I have just completed the forth round of casino testing.
Here are the results.


CasinoRestricted CountriesActive IP Ban
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31. Fairlay.com

32. Wolf.bet



33. Playbetr.com



34. Betfury.io


35. CoinDragon.com


36. Paradice.in


37. ForuneToWin.com



38. EarnBet.io



39. Buff.bet



40. CasinoExtreme.eu
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USA, UK, Netherlands



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USA, Netherlands


USA, UK


UK, France, Netherlands



USA, France, Netherlands



Germany, USA, UK



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USA - YES
France - NO
Netherlands - NO


USA - YES
UK - YES
Netherlands - YES


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USA - YES
Netherlands - YES


USA - NO
UK - NO


UK - YES
France - YES
Netherlands - YES


USA - NO
France - NO
Netherlands - NO


Germany - NO
USA - NO
UK - NO


France - NO


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November 29, 2020, 01:31:12 PM
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I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe. Personally I am using the VPN provided by Kaspersky, which comes along with their anti-virus suite. It has a long list of IPs from dozens of different countries to select from. Even going for KYC can be ineffective. In the dark market, you can find KYC documents for as little as $10.
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November 29, 2020, 02:31:47 PM
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Good work! I don't have a vpn to test these myself, can i leave requests for testing? I am interested if restrictions are in place for "mining" sites like Earnbet (ex eosbet), Betfury and Bethash. And that conclusions i should draw if gambling sites don't have these ip restrictions in place?

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November 29, 2020, 02:56:18 PM
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I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe.
If you cheat and lie to the casino about where you are from, it's your own fault what happens afterwards. But if you use a VPN for privacy reasons, but you are not located in a restricted jurisdiction, that is OK.

IP restrictions show that the casinos have made some effort to prevent those who shouldn't be on their sites from signing up and gambling there. I have read stories of players from restricted countries being successful in registering at a casino, depositing money, losing bets, with no problems. But when they won something, the casinos started asking questions who they are, and where they are from. If it was discovered they were from a country whose players aren't allowed at that casino, they had their winnings/funds confiscated.

I am interested if restrictions are in place for "mining" sites like Earnbet (ex eosbet), Betfury and Bethash.
I had a look at BetFury but they don't have any info in their TOS regarding restricted countries.

And that conclusions i should draw if gambling sites don't have these ip restrictions in place?
It doesn't have to mean anything or it can mean everything, depends on how you look at it. Maybe they just forgot to implement it, maybe they don't care or consider it an important feature. Maybe they rely on the fact that it is the player's responsibility to read the rules and TOS and adhere to them (which it is). Or maybe they are malicious and haven't done it on purpose. Hoping that players will register and lose. In case they win, they can request KYC and other proof of who the players are and confiscate their winnings if they are from a restricted location.   

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November 29, 2020, 03:01:13 PM
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I am pleased to know that these sites do not restrict my country from playing on their sites regardless of that gambling is a prohibited activity in my country under applicable law. The problem is the internet network provider that I use has restricted some of these site so I have to use a VPN to play there. I know that some gambling site prohibit users from using VPN to cross country block, will it be a problem if I use VPN to bypass internet provider restrictions ?

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November 30, 2020, 01:41:25 PM
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If online or crypto gambling is prohibited in your country, you should know that many casinos have rules that prohibits users who reside in jurisdictions where online gambling isn't allowed from playing at their site. You should check the TOS of the casinos you gamble at and contact customer support if you are in doubt. Some casinos don't allow the use of VPN software, while others don't mind it. Again, it is best to get in touch with their costumer service team to get the correct info from them.

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December 01, 2020, 03:32:20 AM
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I am pleased to know that these sites do not restrict my country from playing on their sites regardless of that gambling is a prohibited activity in my country under applicable law. The problem is the internet network provider that I use has restricted some of these site so I have to use a VPN to play there. I know that some gambling site prohibit users from using VPN to cross country block, will it be a problem if I use VPN to bypass internet provider restrictions ?

Pmalek had already answered this question in a previous post. You need to check the T&C for each of these online casinos. If they explicitly state that they don't have any geographical restriction, then you are good to go. But normally they will be providing a list of countries, from where the user registration is not possible. You may still be able to place your bets, but issues may arise when you try to withdraw the funds to your bank account.
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December 01, 2020, 04:48:40 AM
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I don't understand the point in having IP block, when we have VPN services available at every nook and corner of the globe. Personally I am using the VPN provided by Kaspersky, which comes along with their anti-virus suite. It has a long list of IPs from dozens of different countries to select from. Even going for KYC can be ineffective. In the dark market, you can find KYC documents for as little as $10.
I won't do that because I am afraid the site can catch me because of the fake document. If you don't want to fill KYC documents, you should search for the other gambling site, so you don't have to fill the KYC. The @OP already update the list, but as long as we have a VPN, we can change the IP and visit the site to playing gambling. Sometimes I use a VPN too to playing gambling, especially if I see that one site blocks my connection, and that will not be a problem for me to playing gambling on that site.

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December 02, 2020, 10:20:15 AM
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Sometimes I use a VPN too to playing gambling, especially if I see that one site blocks my connection, and that will not be a problem for me to playing gambling on that site.
If a casino blocks your connection, there is a reason for that. If you use a VPN, yes you will be able to bypass the geo restriction, but you can create more problems for yourself later. Try to find a platform that doesn't block your original IP or your country. If you are unlucky, you could have your winnings taken away from you, your account blocked for lying about your whereabouts, or for using a VPN. Casinos have the right to protect their interest, and they will to exactly that.

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December 02, 2020, 10:29:46 AM
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Nice list, thank you for sharing this good information to all of us, Among all the lists, Roobet is the only one that I have tried and there are so many games that is restricted in my country. Among all of the games in the slot games, only 4 games are available. I just wonder and thinking, why this thing happen or why they are banning some games for different countries, so the thing that I am doing is using the VPN but so I can try some other games.

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