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October 01, 2020, 06:15:03 PM
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The performance of Dominik Thiem is very impressive today. I would not have expected him to have so few problems with J. Sock in the first two movements. Especially the first set with 6:1 speaks volumes and has shown in which top form Thiem is at the moment - when he really gets into the game.

I'm curious whether the two finalists of the last two years will make it back to the finals or meet each other beforehand?

According to the grid, they can't meet at all before the semi-final, they are each in the other half:



On paper, Thiem would have the easier group in my opinion, Nadal has to pass Zverev to reach the semi-finals, who is also playing in very good form at the moment

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Thanks for the overview, so definitely not a new edition of the finals of the last two years. According to the favorites, it should be a final Djokovic vs. Nadal / Thiem. That's correct Nadal has the difficult way, but in Paris Nadal is a power.
Be careful Djokovic is in a great shape this year, he just destroyed Berankis in 1h23 today (6-1,6-2,6-2) after a victory against Ymer in 1h38 (6-0,6-2,6-3)

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October 01, 2020, 07:33:07 PM
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OP updated

Day 5 Headlines:
Ostapenko beats Karolina Pliskova
Muguruza beats Krystyna Pliskova
Kenin beats Bogadan
Kvitova beats Paolini
Djokovic beats Berankis
Tsitsipas beats Cuevas
Carballes Baena beats Shapovalov
Berrettini beats Harris

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October 01, 2020, 08:28:03 PM
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Serena not being her best in the US open cant be used to judge her performance in the French open and I believe she actually planned to be the winner of this year French open before she had to withdraw because of her achilles injury. Besides, by looking at her during her interview you will feel that she was hurt.

Now that Serena Williams is out of the competition, I expect Simona Halep or Karolina Pliskova to be the winner of this year's women French open.
I am a betting man and when i place a bet i look at their recent performance rather than their past glories to predict how far they can go and how they will perform if they have an off day on the court. She was struggling with her fitness and it was evident in the US open and now she had to withdraw from the tournament because of injury. If you are picking the event winner and if you picked Serena Williams you would lose money if you are not looking at their recent performance.

In my view the dark horse of the tournament is Garbine Muguruza and she might win the tournament. In men's i am picking Novak Djokovic.
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October 01, 2020, 09:43:18 PM
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Serena not being her best in the US open cant be used to judge her performance in the French open and I believe she actually planned to be the winner of this year French open before she had to withdraw because of her achilles injury. Besides, by looking at her during her interview you will feel that she was hurt.

Now that Serena Williams is out of the competition, I expect Simona Halep or Karolina Pliskova to be the winner of this year's women French open.
I am a betting man and when i place a bet i look at their recent performance rather than their past glories to predict how far they can go and how they will perform if they have an off day on the court. She was struggling with her fitness and it was evident in the US open and now she had to withdraw from the tournament because of injury. If you are picking the event winner and if you picked Serena Williams you would lose money if you are not looking at their recent performance.

In my view the dark horse of the tournament is Garbine Muguruza and she might win the tournament. In men's i am picking Novak Djokovic.
You're betting man indeed but you seems not to understand that even using players current performance category to predict who's going to win the game is still an incomplete strategy and it will fail you so bad because the game venue surface also play an important when predicting the winner of a tennis game cause some player are good in clay surface while some are good in hardcourt.

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October 02, 2020, 11:34:15 AM
Last edit: October 03, 2020, 08:59:03 AM by JollyGood
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OP updated

Thiem through in straight sets.

Now that he has won his maiden Grand Slam at the US Open in September 2020, he is playing like a true Grand Slam champion who will try to make it a hat-trick of consecutive French Open finals   Shocked

His record at the French Open is excellent considering he has been living in the era of Nadal:

Thiem recent record at the French Open
2016: semi-final
2017: semi-final
2018: runner-up
2019: runner up

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October 02, 2020, 11:56:04 AM
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This thread has been created to discuss the French Open (Roland Garros)


Day 6 Headlines:
Thiem wins in straight sets against Ruud
Svitolina wins in straight sets against Alexandrova
Swiatek beats Bouchard in straight sets


Day 5 Headlines:
Ostapenko beats Karolina Pliskova
Muguruza beats Krystyna Pliskova
Kenin beats Bogadan
Kvitova beats Paolini
Djokovic beats Berankis
Tsitsipas beats Cuevas
Carballes Baena beats Shapovalov
Berrettini beats Harris


Day 4 Headlines:
S Williams withdraws from the tournament
Wawrinka progresses to the next round
Bertens defeats Errani
Azarenka is out! She was beaten by world #161 Schmiedlova
Svitolina through to next round
Schwartzman through to next round
Thiem defeats Sock to through to next round
Zverev defeats unseeded Frenchman Herbert

Day 3 Headlines:
Watson loses - no more Brits remain in the singles tournament
Mladenovic calls for VAR after umpire did not see double bounce
Pliskova through to the next round
Djokovic through to the next round


Day 2 Headlines:
Nadal beats Gerasimov in straight sets
S Williams beats Ahn
Thiem beats Cilic in straight sets
Kvitova beats Dodin


Day 1 Headlines:
Gauff beats Konta in straight sets
Wawrinka beats Murray

This is very good news and a fan of Nadal. I always sit with a lot of interest to watch his game. He is a big contender in the fight to win the title. However, since everyone here is a very good player, so I hope to fight hard.
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October 02, 2020, 12:07:58 PM
Last edit: October 03, 2020, 07:55:48 AM by mprep
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Your post makes no sense.

I have added you to my ignore list after reading through your post history which shows it is being used to primarily post for the sake of posting in order to get paid for your signature campaign - rather than post in a meaningful manner.

Kindly refrain from posting in this thread again unless there is something of quality or substance for you to add. Thank you.



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This is very good news and a fan of Nadal. I always sit with a lot of interest to watch his game. He is a big contender in the fight to win the title. However, since everyone here is a very good player, so I hope to fight hard.



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October 03, 2020, 01:55:14 AM
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No mention of Gaston beating Wawrinka ? Ah yes I see it in the OP.

Usually I watch the tournament at work but this time I wasn't watching, too bad ! I find it funny how his name and surname are so French. From what I'm hearing he was good at surprising the Swiss.

I wouldn't bet on him against Thiem, though, what do you think ?
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October 03, 2020, 04:10:42 AM
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Dominic Thiem was not at his best performance, but was able to beat Norway's Casper Ruud. Thiem also feels that his level of play
has increased after defeating Ruud, and will advance to the fourth round of the 2020 French Open. Casper Ruud wants to follow in
the footsteps of his father Christian Ruud who made it to the fourth round at the 1997 Australian Open. But Casper's performance
was not strong enough to overthrow Dominic Thiem. Next, Thiem will challenge Hugo Gaston, who is still 20 years old, where Hugo
beat Stan Wawrinka.

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OP updated

Day 6 Headlines:

Collins beats Muguruza
Badosa beats Ostapenko
Kvitova beats Fernandez
Kenin demolishes Bara
Altmaier, Rublev, Carreno Busta,Fucsovics, Khachanov and Djokovic all through to the next round

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You're betting man indeed but you seems not to understand that even using players current performance category to predict who's going to win the game is still an incomplete strategy and it will fail you so bad because the game venue surface also play an important when predicting the winner of a tennis game cause some player are good in clay surface while some are good in hardcourt.
So you are aware that certain players are good in certain conditions and what is the strong point of Serena Williams, how many clay tournaments she won, majority of her wins are in hard court and she just won three French Open titles even during her prime playing days and she is not in her prime form after the pregnancy and she lost many matches after that and coming into this series she was already having injury.

You might analyse differently but the way i go about is to take into account their recent performance than the entire career average and performance. 
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Also I don't think it's age in itself that takes its toll on her, at least not yet, but rather the length of her career. Having exerted her body day in, day out, for most of her life, for 25 years at a very high level, every injury, every ache, is not something new, it's something that is coming back. So at some point it's too much.
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Very hard game for Thiem yesterday, incredible stop balls from Gaston  Shocked, the next matches at tis "line" are interesting and for the half-finals, the last finale in 2019 is possible. But Thiem are the only who's get over 5 sets, the regeneration is very critical.


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Djokovic vs Khachanov will be an interesting match.

I think Khachanov will pose a big problem for Djokovic. I think Djokovic will lose this match  Grin

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 #36

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You're betting man indeed but you seems not to understand that even using players current performance category to predict who's going to win the game is still an incomplete strategy and it will fail you so bad because the game venue surface also play an important when predicting the winner of a tennis game cause some player are good in clay surface while some are good in hardcourt.
So you are aware that certain players are good in certain conditions and what is the strong point of Serena Williams, how many clay tournaments she won, majority of her wins are in hard court and she just won three French Open titles even during her prime playing days and she is not in her prime form after the pregnancy and she lost many matches after that and coming into this series she was already having injury.

You might analyse differently but the way i go about is to take into account their recent performance than the entire career average and performance. 
I dont know how many clay games Serena Williams have won but I understand most of her winning her through hard court. However, you seems not to understand that for her to hold the title of winning the most singles women's matches mean she had gone through different surface games and about her performance after the pregnancy is normal cause every woman give a part of herself to her baby.
In this year's French open, she had a strong point if the injury does not happen to her.

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Day 7 Headlines:

Halep is beaten by world number 54 Iga Swiatek
Zverev is out too

Things are heating up in a very cold French Open touranment...
For people like Zverev which I expect to see in quater or semi final to be out of the game in fourth round, will could see a new champion in this year French open if Nadal was unable to beat J Sinner which rule of Zverev of this year French open.
In the meantime, A. Rublev is on the quarter final while S. Tsitsipas is doing good in todays game

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October 05, 2020, 01:40:37 PM
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Very hard game for Thiem yesterday, incredible stop balls from Gaston  Shocked, the next matches at tis "line" are interesting and for the half-finals, the last finale in 2019 is possible. But Thiem are the only who's get over 5 sets, the regeneration is very critical.


Yesterday game was hard for him (Thiem) but he still manages to win in style and I hope he also wins tomorrow quarter-final against D. Schwartzman cause I will love to see him and Rafael Nadal battle in the semifinals of this year French open due to what happened between him and Nadal in the last year single men's final.

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Djokovic vs Khachanov will be an interesting match.

I think Khachanov will pose a big problem for Djokovic. I think Djokovic will lose this match  Grin
The first 7 games of the first set was really interesting and then Djokovic stamped his authority by winning the first set easily and he is in good form and it will take a monumental performance from Karen Khachanov to win a set against Djokovic and if everything goes as usual we will see a final between Rafael Nadal and Djokovic and it will be an epic battle.
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October 05, 2020, 03:10:41 PM
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Djokovic vs Khachanov will be an interesting match.

I think Khachanov will pose a big problem for Djokovic. I think Djokovic will lose this match  Grin

I am watching right now the match, and it seems there is no match between two players. Djokovic is another level, not too much to say.
He is going to win the second set (current score 4-1). Khachanov is a discrete player for sure, but isn't at the same level of a top player.


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October 05, 2020, 05:03:34 PM
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Djokovic vs Khachanov will be an interesting match.

I think Khachanov will pose a big problem for Djokovic. I think Djokovic will lose this match Grin

The first 7 games of the first set was really interesting and then Djokovic stamped his authority by winning the first set easily and he is in good form and it will take a monumental performance from Karen Khachanov to win a set against Djokovic and if everything goes as usual we will see a final between Rafael Nadal and Djokovic and it will be an epic battle.

I am watching right now the match, and it seems there is no match between two players. Djokovic is another level, not too much to say.
He is going to win the second set (current score 4-1). Khachanov is a discrete player for sure, but isn't at the same level of a top player.


@JollyGood I’m not sure why you thought that Djokovic would loose this match, because he’s had an amazing streak in 2020, hence there was no way he would have lost this match. Furthermore Djokovic has won this match comfortably, and now like you’ll I'm eagerly waiting for his clash with Nadal (if that happens), but in that match I’ll be rooting for Nadal to beat Djokovic.

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