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September 29, 2020, 01:41:00 AM
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Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys etc just lost their jobs

Spot Price 74500 USD
Human BellBoy salary 1000-3000 usd / month ( developed countries )
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74500 usd / 3000 = in around 25 months i will recover my investment with Spot as a hotel owner ,no more need for human worker ...

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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
A real waitress/ waiter has so much more to offer to the ambiance as well as the customer. Some "services" would always remain better with humans.
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September 29, 2020, 06:23:36 AM
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Taxi drivers will also lose their jobs,when autonomous cars become a thing.
Unfortunately this is how the civilization works.New technology replaces human labor.People,who work in low and minimum wage jobs and are performing repetitive tasks are pretty much screwed.
However,I don't believe that this Spot Robot will be mass adopted by the small businesses anytime soon.

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September 29, 2020, 08:29:45 AM
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It is why only computer programmers and developers are the ones who cannot be replaced in the future because they are the ones who create computers and robots, that is why jobless people would increase their numbers in the future. Many people had already predicted this kind of situation a year ago, that is why if we want to be rich, you need to learn how to code or program.

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September 29, 2020, 09:15:24 AM
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It is why only computer programmers and developers are the ones who cannot be replaced in the future because they are the ones who create computers and robots, that is why jobless people would increase their numbers in the future. Many people had already predicted this kind of situation a year ago, that is why if we want to be rich, you need to learn how to code or program.


Not really as A.I will be able to self program and self debug ... so not even we as programmers will be safe from job loss...


Skynet is coming ...

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It is why only computer programmers and developers are the ones who cannot be replaced in the future because they are the ones who create computers and robots, that is why jobless people would increase their numbers in the future. Many people had already predicted this kind of situation a year ago, that is why if we want to be rich, you need to learn how to code or program.

In the 4.0 industrial revolution, some professions will slowly disappear. This can create fewer jobs because human labor will be replaced by technology. It is feared that there will be more unemployment due to the replacement of human power by machine and robot technology. Human resources or labor must prepare themselves to face the digital economy era and sophisticated technological developments.

Technology is considered unable to take over jobs that depend on human interaction such as doctors (including nurses, pharmacists and medical personnel) and teachers or other jobs with special skills. Other professions that will always exist in the era of the 4.0 industrial revolution are professions that rely on human creativity.

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September 29, 2020, 09:48:40 AM
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It is why only computer programmers and developers are the ones who cannot be replaced in the future because they are the ones who create computers and robots, that is why jobless people would increase their numbers in the future. Many people had already predicted this kind of situation a year ago, that is why if we want to be rich, you need to learn how to code or program.

In the 4.0 industrial revolution, some professions will slowly disappear. This can create fewer jobs because human labor will be replaced by technology. It is feared that there will be more unemployment due to the replacement of human power by machine and robot technology. Human resources or labor must prepare themselves to face the digital economy era and sophisticated technological developments.

Technology is considered unable to take over jobs that depend on human interaction such as doctors (including nurses, pharmacists and medical personnel) and teachers or other jobs with special skills. Other professions that will always exist in the era of the 4.0 industrial revolution are professions that rely on human creativity.
The good thing I am rooting for is that when most jobs are replaced by robots, the populace will all have a chance to be inclined to a more scientific endeavors like doctors, engineers, scientists and other STEM related oppurtunities. But considering capitalism and consumerism, we might be going down a dark path. The idyllic scenario will be achieved if right now we are experimenting with different types of governance, like universal basic income or something of the same nature as the former.

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September 29, 2020, 10:52:52 AM
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It is why only computer programmers and developers are the ones who cannot be replaced in the future

Nothing is too important that does not have option of replacement. Do we say that too in many years ago when computer system is not known and other means were known. The people in that generation too can have such thinking but we are here now seeing the computer and technology age. Things do change from time as life is going on, we keep changing with it.
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September 29, 2020, 11:02:35 AM
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Taxi drivers will also lose their jobs,when autonomous cars become a thing.


Is that true? There is no way I would get into a driverless car. But then, I don't use taxis anyway.

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September 29, 2020, 11:38:00 AM
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Taxi drivers will also lose their jobs,when autonomous cars become a thing.


Is that true? There is no way I would get into a driverless car. But then, I don't use taxis anyway.
You won't but most of the people won't have a problem with it. Moreover with increased usage of IOT this technology would become much better and maybe errorless. More over once this becomes a normalcy even you would begin to think it like something normal. But this technology might take atleast 30-40 years to develop completely.

It is why only computer programmers and developers are the ones who cannot be replaced in the future because they are the ones who create computers and robots, that is why jobless people would increase their numbers in the future. Many people had already predicted this kind of situation a year ago, that is why if we want to be rich, you need to learn how to code or program.
No this actually is a pretty wrong. Won't say that the complete computer development arena would be endangered but if we are developing most of the process would become mechanical and this process includes coding. So coding too could be done using Robot's itself. Think of it if driving with so many uncertain variables in the environment can be done by a robot. Coding a program on similar lines of that of previous one can be easily done by a robot and most of the coders code something that already exists. Very few coders are involved at that high level where the code for unique innovations. So technically even the employment for coders could get reduced. Moreover who knows if the whole computer environment is revolutionized with some new technology of code development? So only the person who moves with change would survive.
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September 29, 2020, 12:07:02 PM
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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
A real waitress/ waiter has so much more to offer to the ambiance as well as the customer. Some "services" would always remain better with humans.
Agree with that. Even if the continuous development and innovation of AI, some jobs are still better with humans.

74500 usd / 3000 = in around 25 months i will recover my investment with Spot as a hotel owner ,no more need for human worker ...
Also given that that "thing" could possibly replace humans jobs, and get back the investment in 25 months, don't forget that it will also increase electricity cost if they will totally replace humans of those jobs mentioned.
It's inevitable that we are slowly adapting and depending on the technology but I think it will still take time. Even with that advanced technology, not everyone prefers using it.
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Im my country, most restaurants, and fast foods now do not accept dine in because of this pandemic. Due to that, there is a low demand of waiters/waitresses/bellboys. There will be no more customers who will be eating inside the resto so the only service given is to ask what are their orders then the cook will prepare the food. Lucky also for those who work in cashier. But the sad truth is that, they are not the only employees who lost their job even drivers of a public vehicle in our country lost their job too because they are not allowed to drive.
Regarding the robots developed by the technology, yes it also reduces the need of man power. Some says they are better than humans but I think not all the times. Yes there will be no more people to pay, but buying expensive robots also refer for expensive maintenance.

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Jobs related to food services have been greatly reduced during the pandemic. In addition to the salary they receive, they also lose tips from the customers.
Pandemic brings great costs to the service. Service shutdowns are necessary to protect the health of society as a whole.

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September 29, 2020, 03:25:32 PM
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the negative impact of technological developments is the loss of some existing jobs, because in the future AI & robotics will develop greatly but there will also still be a lot of work for humans only to do too..  Based on the data, in the future, there will be more than 11 jobs that are predicted to be lost in the future;
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September 29, 2020, 04:02:40 PM
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Somehow it gave me goosebumps.

It is still way different when people are serving you.
You get smiles or sometimes you get an angry bellboy.  Grin
Human interaction is still the best or we will end up just like these robots without emotions even in the slightest things.
I hope I am dead when that happens.
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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
A real waitress/ waiter has so much more to offer to the ambiance as well as the customer. Some "services" would always remain better with humans.
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I would barely agree on this mater because after watching the video attachment on how the Spot Robot works, still it would be preferable for sure that waiters and bell boys to stay on their jobs for despite all the functions and factors to get up a spot dog to keep the job done by those type of jobs I have mentioned, small businesses as well as many customers will surely still prefer manual work than automation with regards to serving foods and their services right up into their tables when doing an order in any fast food or restaurants. It is really surprising how technologies are being improved and advanced on which human features are getting targetted to be inputted on how robots work like AI feature but still humans are the superior and it is still far beyond to get into perfection before robots can perfectly do all the jobs (as in all)  that only humans can do and that is when the major threat to human services will arise and unemployment would come.

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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
A real waitress/ waiter has so much more to offer to the ambiance as well as the customer. Some "services" would always remain better with humans.
Amishmanish just made a good point, kudos! Some services are best left to humans. Seriously, would not like to be in a hotel and a robot is serving me food, I am not going to be liking that at all. And also the op raised some kind of awareness here; waiters, cleaners and similar jobs are now the ones that are starting to lose their jobs and it got worse with this coronavirus and the lockdown and the rest of them.

Why this is a sad situation is because these people are the ones that are least paid in every industry and they can’t afford most things that others can, and that means they will be having something worse to face when they have no jobs.
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Somehow it gave me goosebumps.

It is still way different when people are serving you.
You get smiles or sometimes you get an angry bellboy.  Grin
Human interaction is still the best or we will end up just like these robots without emotions even in the slightest things.
I hope I am dead when that happens.
It will saddened everyone who will definitely lose their jobs beacuse of this Spot Robots. I think small etablishments and even those big ones should not be adopting this because this will only pave the way to more hungry stomachs because of unemployement. It would still be best to work with real humans who have different emotions to show than to face those robots who are fast yet no emotions involved.

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September 29, 2020, 07:41:18 PM
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Taxi drivers will also lose their jobs,when autonomous cars become a thing.


Is that true? There is no way I would get into a driverless car. But then, I don't use taxis anyway.
Not all would have the same financial capacity as yours which can afford their own car.People are on the average financial status would really need to commute and do end up on riding on a taxi.
Even if they dont like to ride on a driverless taxi, are there any other choice for them? even if they dont like to, they do still end up with no choice but to deal with it.
Technology is evolving fast and it is gradually been replaced by robots even on the simpliest job on where human can do.It does have its pro's and con's, and i cant blame those companies
if  they do tend to switch into something much faster and much lesser expense for the sake of their companies profitability.It will sacrifice lots but they would opt in for their
own good, so its no surprise.

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Taxi drivers will also lose their jobs,when autonomous cars become a thing.
Unfortunately this is how the civilization works.New technology replaces human labor.People,who work in low and minimum wage jobs and are performing repetitive tasks are pretty much screwed.
However,I don't believe that this Spot Robot will be mass adopted by the small businesses anytime soon.
This is nothing new, technology has replaced many jobs in the past but it also generates new jobs, the difference is that many jobs that are repetitive will become obsolete and for the most part there will not be a way to replace those jobs, the jobs of the future will have to do with our ingenuity and our ability to think outside the box, this is why it is important to educate ourselves not only by receiving formal education but by learning new skills on our own that way we will have skills that are still on demand on the future.
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Boston Dynamics have been working on these things for about a decade now and I still do not think that they are ready for anything. Don't get me wrong eventually they will be useful for something but for now they are still quite useless, which means there is at least another 10 years until they are useful and after that we need rapid production for everyone to have one and that will take another 10-20 years probably, so we are very fine, a kid who starts working as a waiter now and work until he retires would be able to do that without getting interrupted by these things.

However with robotics, manifesting improvements, even vertical farming all makes people less useful as well, I would rather have robot workers than human workers as well if I had that chance.

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One of the bad effects of technological advances can indeed threaten human life, with the increasing number of robotic projects
to replace the role of human labor. This is indeed beneficial for business owners, because they can reduce payroll expenses.
But on the other hand there will be a lot of people who lose their jobs. Fortunately, the price of robots to replace humans is still
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One of the bad effects of technological advances can indeed threaten human life, with the increasing number of robotic projects
to replace the role of human labor. This is indeed beneficial for business owners, because they can reduce payroll expenses.
But on the other hand there will be a lot of people who lose their jobs. Fortunately, the price of robots to replace humans is still
expensive, and has not been mass-produced. So for small companies they still prefer human labor, for the time being it is still safe
for human workers.

Though it is a nice investment, but some businesses still need human compassion or interaction. The human service is totally different from a robot. But there are some tasks that robot can perfectly execute and no human error of course. If you are a business owner, just weigh your pros and cons, short-term or long-term scenarios and what it will do to your overall performance in business.
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The good thing I am rooting for is that when most jobs are replaced by robots, the populace will all have a chance to be inclined to a more scientific endeavors like doctors, engineers, scientists and other STEM related oppurtunities. But considering capitalism and consumerism, we might be going down a dark path. The idyllic scenario will be achieved if right now we are experimenting with different types of governance, like universal basic income or something of the same nature as the former.

The state does have an obligation to ensure the basic needs of its citizens. I think the idea of distributive justice with universal basic income is very appropriate because it encourages the transfer of public resources to the most disadvantaged members of society and to reduce individual losses arising from poverty. In addition, it provides income security, to meet basic needs. With UBI, there will be no more exploitation to the lower classes and their employers will respect their human rights.

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We had this concept cafe where I live, they built this amazingly simple robot type thing, the ones that follows a black tape and gets your order via some screen you touch to pick and then goes back with the tape and the cook (who is human) prepares it and puts the plates on the tray at the hands of the robot and that robot brings it. Do not think of robot that looks like human, this was more like a developed toy car but taller basically.

So, these things started in the very basic simple concept stage and it wasn't really well liked but at least it started, if it is here in 2020 I am sure it is going to be something quite common all around the world to have proper robots taking orders and even maybe cook the food as well by 2030 or so which would be rad if you ask me.

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See even though robotics are becoming a big part of today's technology there won't be every restaurant owner willing to invest in it.
Some might prefer the old style way and maybe start vintage chains while we are in a futuristic society getting served by robots.
At the same time , there would be people necessary to take care of the robots, make sure they are charged , clean them , check if they are working correctly, to through the reviews and thus if these jobs close there would be more present in different sector.
Which does mean the people doing hotel management can shift towards IT and software.
This all goes hand in hand, if jobs are less in one sector, people would just move in another, it would still take years to actually achieve the society that would make everyone loose their jobs like this.
Probable but would still take years or decades.

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There is one big problem with the claim that OP is making, of all waiters and bellboys losing their jobs.

One Spot robot costs $74500, as you said. A catering business employs several waiters, bellboys and other people. The amount of money you'd have to spend on these robots easily exceeds even a large budget. Say you hire 20 people, the amount of money for an equal number of Spot robots is more than $1.5 million. It's just not worth it to spend that much for just robots. People's salaries can be paid in monthly installments which is much easier on businesses because no small business has millions of dollars available upfront.

So as long as you have to spend that much money for large numbers of robots, you're not going to see them on the street daily. They're reserved for special jobs where benefits of using a robot have been researched.

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Here we are comparing humans to robots, indeed that these robots can do the man's job but that was just a basic one. It's not about having these robots to be so called futuristic establishment, human effort is much appreciated than these one. And about the salary, daring to compare these numbers are futile in my opinion. Owners replacing their human workers for these bots are selfish, not just to the worker but for his country's economy.
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Automation kills the job market, owners will think of making money through investment rather than giving life. Through automation it'll perform the assigned work with the same energy throughout, and human beings cannot do the same. If one invested $74500, he'll recover the investment in about two years time. By the time it'll go outdated and he needs to update it. Business is always business, so after buying too, there'll be regular maintenance charges. Only then companies manufacturing it can sustain long. Cool

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We can never be compare a person to a robot, the robot is only good at first but it will cost a lot of money for its maintenance, when most of the restaurant owner do this, it's just like they taking away the livelihood of many individuals. There are still many things that a robot can not do and when it comes to service, human is still the best because they serve with a smile.
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i knew waiter and waitreses but 1k to 3k usd per month for bell boy job ? holy sh!t that was alot . i wonder what kind of task does a bell boy do .

i know there was a human clock too and i saw it on the video but i dont know if that is legit because it looks funny and whats the use of it when there are already clocks that works automatically . most of the workers lost thier jobs during the covid strike but for those that earns alot , it can be painful .
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October 04, 2020, 04:09:19 AM
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The new technology is good but it's awful for the human.
Replacing humans with robots can be harmful to our society.
Who's know they'll be a robotic doctor too and many doctors can lose their jobs.
The government should take action against it because if every person start losing the job they won't able to pay taxes which impact badly on the country's economy
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We had this concept cafe where I live, they built this amazingly simple robot type thing, the ones that follows a black tape and gets your order via some screen you touch to pick and then goes back with the tape and the cook (who is human) prepares it and puts the plates on the tray at the hands of the robot and that robot brings it. Do not think of robot that looks like human, this was more like a developed toy car but taller basically.

So, these things started in the very basic simple concept stage and it wasn't really well liked but at least it started, if it is here in 2020 I am sure it is going to be something quite common all around the world to have proper robots taking orders and even maybe cook the food as well by 2030 or so which would be rad if you ask me.
There are already robots that cook and as you may guess they are not very good yet but give them a decade and they will begin to replace human cooks all over the world as they become cheaper and more efficient, or take a look at self-driving cars that will come on the future and that will leave without jobs all of those people which transport goods from one side of the country to the other, taxi drivers and all people that offer those kind of services.
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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
Seriously, all the points you made above are valid.  And I know technology is moving forward at an incredible pace, but there are only so many human jobs that can be replaced by robots.  When I'm in my local grocery store and I see that fucking mobile robot doing whatever suspicious activities it's doing, I just want to push it over on its long axis until it's completely horizontal and see if it can get up.

Human BellBoy salary 1000-3000 usd / month ( developed countries )
$3000/month isn't too bad a salary for a bellboy, assuming that doesn't include tips.  $1000/month sucks, but there are still plenty of people who'd be willing to work for that amount, and I think it'd be a shame if they were replaced by robots.

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October 06, 2020, 05:01:15 PM
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I think there's a lot to consider and take into account before arriving at the conclusion that this robot can adequately substitute human labor. It's possible that in the future it will be able to but what I surmise from this ad is that it can work together with humans, not on its own. Let's not forget that people have been saying that machines will be able to replace humans for decades, and granted, in some jobs they have, but I think that in this case it's not that easy, especially when you have to deal with the jobs mentioned.
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As far as I've glimpsed, it's not merely the waiters/ waitresses/  bellboys who have lost their jobs. Many proficient people are victims of this pandemic crisis. In our country, 30-40% of the people who are in private companies are forfeiting their jobs. Where the people of the company are like this, waiters/ waitresses/ bellboys will forfeit their jobs soon. There is no necessity to talk about those whose family status is middle class and lower class. If this proceeds, they will have to confront several tough circumstances.  Cry

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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
A real waitress/ waiter has so much more to offer to the ambiance as well as the customer. Some "services" would always remain better with humans.

This is sincerely agreeable for me. Even if someday robots will be able to take over jobs and serves as human replacement tools, still there are lots of functionality that humans can only do that robots cannot afford such as the customer service that provides a very vibing ambiance which customers like of course do always look after upon eating on restaurants. Actually that is also kinda true that it would be hard for those robots to maneuver on crowded places like fast food chains and restaurants like human waiters/waitresses can do so it is pretty much better to get along with humans to be servants. Yes we are facing into the phase of automation but still there are certain works that will stay upon humans can only afford to do. But it is still the reality that there is a big possibility of unemployment rate to arise because of this possibility that humans will be replaced by robots and be able to take over their jobs.



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October 06, 2020, 09:26:03 PM
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Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys etc just lost their jobs

Spot Price 74500 USD
Human BellBoy salary 1000-3000 usd / month ( developed countries )
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74500 usd / 3000 = in around 25 months i will recover my investment with Spot as a hotel owner ,no more need for human worker ...

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Given the level of service of some establishments and the attitude of the waiters to their work, I will only be happy with such a replacement. Constant rudeness, begging for tips for nothing and just not caring about their work - this is not what I expect when I come to a cafe or restaurant for lunch. I will be happy to go to a place where robots will serve everything. Not only will it be quite new and interesting, but at the same time I will not get negative feedback from hostesses and waiters who think too much about themselves.
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That is the result of the successful technology, the innovation is really shown up with the video. It seems to be very useful for them to have AI. There is also a high possibility that there would be many robots in the future that will help every company and business in the service. It feels good to see a robot serving for you, I am really amazed at what technology can do for many people. We are still in the 21st century and there are still many things that might happen..
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Well, that is what technology can do for us, they are capable of doing things that we can do, and for sure there would be many robots or AI that will be implemented and will take over for some other jobs, there are many jobs that has been replaced by the technologies, for the company that is using it, this thing is very helpful for them to finish the things they need to but for those people who used to do those things will be bad for them because they are being replaced by technologies which result of being jobless. The question we have now, do we really need to have robots or not? What do you think?

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If you can't do the job, you become a mechanic to fix or maintain the robot that took over your job, there is always money to be made. Or you could do a remote job that doesn't require a robot and you can do personally, no matter how high tech world gets I am sure we will be fine.

Plus, if the world reaches to a place where only a few job is required to be done by people, you could always go with UBI, that way companies will pay a lot more taxes, not as much as salary obviously but still a lot, like let's assume per person you pay 60k for salary, but 20k for tax instead if you can replace them with robots, that means that tax could go to government and government could pay enough money to people to survive, like 1k per month, which is not a lot but you can survive with that money.
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I just watched the whole video and this is what technology growing creates robotics conquering the human race. Many people have lost their jobs because the robots created yearly increases. This saddened those people who can’t find work, wants to compete with this technology that people adopt nowadays. In my view, I still prefer humans that can interact with people, and a lot of services can offer.
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I just watched the whole video and this is what technology growing creates robotics conquering the human race. Many people have lost their jobs because the robots created yearly increases. This saddened those people who can’t find work, wants to compete with this technology that people adopt nowadays. In my view, I still prefer humans that can interact with people, and a lot of services can offer.

There is a lot of propaganda going on, with hardly any truth in them. Just ask yourself. Has the unemployment rate gone up during the last 2-3 decades? We already have a fair deal of automation present in almost all the sectors. It has made the life easier for a lot of people. Cost of production has gone down in manufacturing units, and efficiency has increased. And on the other hand, there is not an iota of truth in the claim that automation has caused an increase in the unemployment rate.
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Well, this is the reality of the world. The world is always changing and is very dynamic in nature. With technologies and progress, we will eventually require less human resources. When emails were invented, post-mails lost their demand. When wheel and carts were invented, riding on camels lost their demand. With progress, comes comfort but at the same time our value as human resource declines! It's the harsh reality!
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That is so heartbreaking because the hospitality industry is actually suffering a lot and there is no possible solution to fix it either because everyone is terrified to move out and there are some real suffering on travel, hotels and other hospitality industries. The place where I live some hotels are shut down since quite a time and while some are running and they deliver food for home others are closed for indefinite time and I do feel for them.

The travel agencies and websites have been really hit hard too because even though the virus is not spreading as much but still traveling around is the last thing anyone have on their minds. I have not left my city for at least 3 months now and I was someone who used to travel a lot and never really I had a 1 month period where I didn't travel to at least a nearby city.
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Somehow it gave me goosebumps.

It is still way different when people are serving you.
You get smiles or sometimes you get an angry bellboy.  Grin
Human interaction is still the best or we will end up just like these robots without emotions even in the slightest things.
I hope I am dead when that happens.
Same here, dude. Just thinking about it makes me feel sad, somehow. I mean, I think this kind of situation, where robots are the ones working, can be seen only in movies. But it seems that we're approaching that kind of future. I just hope that when that time comes, people would still have jobs using their skills and talents.

As of the moment, many workers lost their jobs indeed because of the pandemic but I hope things would be better next year, so the economy of many countries could bounce back and we could live a normal life once again.

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October 12, 2020, 06:31:31 PM
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Given the level of service of some establishments and the attitude of the waiters to their work, I will only be happy with such a replacement. Constant rudeness, begging for tips for nothing and just not caring about their work - this is not what I expect when I come to a cafe or restaurant for lunch. I will be happy to go to a place where robots will serve everything. Not only will it be quite new and interesting, but at the same time I will not get negative feedback from hostesses and waiters who think too much about themselves.
And this is one of the main advantages robots have over people, if someone is being paid to do a job then they should be as nice as possible to their clients and yet you receive terrible service and they still want to receive a huge tip for a job they did not even do properly, this is what is causing many businesses to make the switch, some people do not seem to understand that under the current circumstances holding a job is a blessing and yet it seems they think the job they are performing is below them and with that kind of attitude is easy to see how robots will eventually replace a great deal of the service economy.
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The travel agencies and websites have been really hit hard too because even though the virus is not spreading as much but still traveling around is the last thing anyone have on their minds. I have not left my city for at least 3 months now and I was someone who used to travel a lot and never really I had a 1 month period where I didn't travel to at least a nearby city.

The travel agencies really suffered in the pandemic and also entertainment plus DJs. I know in my area the number of entertainers and also DJs that have been out of job because of the restrictions in human gathering. Those who didn't obey are serving sentence in community service for a month. This is serious then but the limitations in gathering and other things are going away as businesses are opening gradual and with more little time, it will all be history in human life.

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October 12, 2020, 09:57:01 PM
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Given the level of service of some establishments and the attitude of the waiters to their work, I will only be happy with such a replacement. Constant rudeness, begging for tips for nothing and just not caring about their work - this is not what I expect when I come to a cafe or restaurant for lunch. I will be happy to go to a place where robots will serve everything. Not only will it be quite new and interesting, but at the same time I will not get negative feedback from hostesses and waiters who think too much about themselves.

Except to those restaurants with highly disciplined employees. Nonetheless, what you said is actually true where everyone has experienced rude food servers that gives the quality of their service depends on the amount of tip.
I'm not sure If I'm going to be happy with this changes where there are people that'll lost their jobs, but as long as these culture in the restaurant won't change, then I guess I should choose to be served by a robot which is a lot more accurate than human to start with, when talking about advantages against human.

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October 14, 2020, 04:56:47 AM
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Given the level of service of some establishments and the attitude of the waiters to their work, I will only be happy with such a replacement. Constant rudeness, begging for tips for nothing and just not caring about their work - this is not what I expect when I come to a cafe or restaurant for lunch. I will be happy to go to a place where robots will serve everything. Not only will it be quite new and interesting, but at the same time I will not get negative feedback from hostesses and waiters who think too much about themselves.
And this is one of the main advantages robots have over people, if someone is being paid to do a job then they should be as nice as possible to their clients and yet you receive terrible service and they still want to receive a huge tip for a job they did not even do properly, this is what is causing many businesses to make the switch, some people do not seem to understand that under the current circumstances holding a job is a blessing and yet it seems they think the job they are performing is below them and with that kind of attitude is easy to see how robots will eventually replace a great deal of the service economy.

To be honest - I don't even ask for some super courtesy and that everyone is circling around me for a conditional 10% of the amount of the check in the form of a tip.
The simplest example is if I ask the waiter not to BOTHER ME again until I call him, then I expect him to do what I asked. Instead, he still keeps coming up every 10 minutes and asking some bullshit. So what? When I payed the check, I saw the tip that was already included (the waiter turned it on himself) and ask
- Where did the tip come from?
- Well, didn't you like the service?
- No.
I do not mind the money, but I believe that if I ask for something quite feasible (simple inaction) it should be done without questions, "do you like our service".
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October 14, 2020, 05:02:31 AM
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Given the level of service of some establishments and the attitude of the waiters to their work, I will only be happy with such a replacement. Constant rudeness, begging for tips for nothing and just not caring about their work - this is not what I expect when I come to a cafe or restaurant for lunch. I will be happy to go to a place where robots will serve everything. Not only will it be quite new and interesting, but at the same time I will not get negative feedback from hostesses and waiters who think too much about themselves.

Except to those restaurants with highly disciplined employees. Nonetheless, what you said is actually true where everyone has experienced rude food servers that gives the quality of their service depends on the amount of tip.
I'm not sure If I'm going to be happy with this changes where there are people that'll lost their jobs, but as long as these culture in the restaurant won't change, then I guess I should choose to be served by a robot which is a lot more accurate than human to start with, when talking about advantages against human.

The saddest thing is that every year there are more and more cases of bad service due to bad waiters. All these young boys/girls who go to waiters as a "summer part - time job" or while they are "looking for themselves" - they do not understand at all what the client expects and how to behave to be a really good waiter.
I'm sorry but let them be robots instead of these not very smart bags of bones.
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October 14, 2020, 11:27:17 PM
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It is part of the evolution of technology, that's why any course related to it are in-demand in our society. We need to adapt these changes with our technology and I know that there will be some errors that can be experienced in using this. No can replace human because they are the highest rank living thing in earth. Robots can be developed and upgraded depending on the needs of the people. Robots may cost lots of money than the fee to human labor but it makes work easier and not time-consuming.
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October 19, 2020, 06:11:12 AM
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for those people who used to do those things will be bad for them because they are being replaced by technologies which result of being jobless. The question we have now, do we really need to have robots or not? What do you think?
For me it’s not a good thing. To answer this particular question we should look at the disadvantages of having a high rate of unemployment, and the things it can cause. I believe that when we know these disadvantages we wouldn’t agree to replace humans with robots. I know the rich will always do anything to save cost for themselves, not minding how it affects the poor.

Robots are cool, although I wouldn’t like to go to a restaurant and be served by a robot, nah no way. And by the way why are you saying this like the robots can never break down? they are not going to be working for months without experience some fault right, or don’t they? But whatever, I would like all these robots replacing humans and causing more increase in the rate of unemployment, it would be very bad.

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for those people who used to do those things will be bad for them because they are being replaced by technologies which result of being jobless. The question we have now, do we really need to have robots or not? What do you think?
I know the rich will always do anything to save cost for themselves, not minding how it affects the poor.
That's why poors like us should think of a way on how to have a passive income before we grow old and our energy depleted. Let's brace ourselves because most of rich people are heartless, they are thinking too logical that's why what matters the most for them are the profits and the welfare of employees is just an option. That's a fact, we can't please all of them to adjust for us.

So let's save money not only for the sake of saving. Save money for you to have a capital and invest somewhere you believe you can earn. If you lose then try again. Failures are temporary Smiley.
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October 19, 2020, 11:56:28 AM
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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
A real waitress/ waiter has so much more to offer to the ambiance as well as the customer. Some "services" would always remain better with humans.

Yeah, this is so true. I have visited one of the hotel in my hometown and they had the name of hotel Robot itself. Well the experience was amazing but it wasn’t something that one could imagine from sci-fi movie like Better Than Us.
No, it wasn’t that superior. It was just pre programmed steps that were taken by robot and it only did one thing, it moved in the so called predefined path seen on the floor as a wire. It wasn’t able to move backward. So if it went ahead then it has to go Merry round and then come to your table again.

So I’m not sure if you talking about this or not, but yeah in a nutshell it wasn’t amazing experience. Only fun stuff.
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October 20, 2020, 04:03:08 PM
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Services are one of the three industries that account for a high proportion of the economy. With the major economies in the world, with the majority of services contributing more than 40% of the economic structure, a pandemic will cause the industry to suffer many losses, and the number of jobs lost is also very large.
I do not find it strange that many people working as waitresses and flight attendants lose their jobs. Restaurants, cafes and eateries have been closed due to the pandemic. Everyone consumes at the supermarket and dine at home.
Unemployment is not the worst because they can live off the money they have saved earlier. For the homeless, the epidemic was even worse.
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October 21, 2020, 05:08:51 AM
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Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys etc just lost their jobs

Spot Price 74500 USD
Human BellBoy salary 1000-3000 usd / month ( developed countries )
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74500 usd / 3000 = in around 25 months i will recover my investment with Spot as a hotel owner ,no more need for human worker ...

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The  rapid technological innovations particularly in machine intelligence MI and artificial intelligence AI is in leap and bound to be candid this issue of robot taking over some of those jobs will come to reality, many organizations, hotels, companies e.t.c will be taking measures to reduce operational cost and maximize profits of course they will resort to using these robots, sadly its will definitely result to job losses, and job cut,  world population is increasing annually thus more problems there will be millions of jobless people whose responsibilities will have to be taken care-of by government.

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I really do hope that this happens, type of jobs that doesn't require any qualifications would be able to actually get done by robots and other mechanical gadgets, like for example when you go to a mcdonalds, do you REALLY need any workers there? What do they do?

There is someone who is there that takes your order and they tell it to the cooks, then they take your money either credit or cash or whatever and give you receipt or change or whatever, during that time there is a cook making your food and getting it ready, and after that it is put on a tray and given to you.

Do you really assume that can't be done mechanically? A screen where you can pick whatever you want to eat, pay with card or cash to something like an ATM and after that your order is getting ready by some machines automatically and cooked literally exactly same at each time and given to you, all automated. BUT! Mcdonalds should be paying tons and tons of more tax for not having a single worker in their places, all that money that was normally going to workers should be taxed, and that tax should be given to UBI for people who need it.
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world population is increasing annually thus more problems there will be millions of jobless people whose responsibilities will have to be taken care-of by government.
What makes you believe the government will be taking the responsibility for those who are jobless?
They have not even done the simple things they are meant to do, not to talk about taking responsibility for hundreds of millions of people that are going to become jobless due to AI taking over their job.

Let’s not even talk about those, because right now we already have lots of jobless people and unemployment is increasing daily, have the government done anything about it or taken the responsibility for those? So what’s making you think that in future they will take that kind of responsibility?

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Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys etc just lost their jobs

Spot Price 74500 USD
Human BellBoy salary 1000-3000 usd / month ( developed countries )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlkCQXHEgjA


74500 usd / 3000 = in around 25 months i will recover my investment with Spot as a hotel owner ,no more need for human worker ...

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What an alarmist and ridiculous post. There's no way the robot in the video can replace a bellboy or a waiter. The robot can walk and avoid obstacles and pick itself up after it falls. That's a far cry from doing all of the things a human is capable of doing, doing better, and doing 25 times faster. There'll probably be a use for these robots when they're far more developed and capable. What was shown isn't replacing waiters or bellboys.

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Still even with the existence of such innovative machine known as robots that are intended to make works easier and faster at the same time, still humans are much greater and irreplaceable specially when it comes flexibility and skills required to do the tasks. Upon watching the attached video, yes, it is really impressive to see a robot serving foods to customers but that will only apply on fancy restaurants for if we are talking about mobility or the ability to get in crowded places specially on fast food and low budget restaurant, still humans can do the job even faster and accommodate the customers on a friendly manner which is one of the characteristics I always seek upon eating on a restaurant because food is really the basis but the additional factor comes on how accomodating the waiters and the personnels are towards their customers.
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October 22, 2020, 01:13:42 AM
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Its kinda funny that you will see in the future the waiters/waitresses but not as a normal person anymore but as a robot already.

Its hard to believe but this is what is happening right now and this is already predicted to happen because our technology is evolving faster than expected. Its quite unfortunate for those professions that will be hit by this thing but there is nothing we can do about it but to adjust unto it. Well a person will always have a big difference compare to a robot so there is a possibility that there are some fastfood companies or any company that will still prefer people than robots.

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October 22, 2020, 03:58:52 AM
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This is a very unrealistic scenario. Waiters are needed in restaurants, because they have a deep understanding of the customer preferences. If the restaurant tries to replace a waiter with a robot, they still need someone to give instructions to it all the time. So instead of employing one person (waiter), the restaurant will end up employing two persons in the same place (instructor + robot). Who will be interested in this costlier option?
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October 22, 2020, 07:43:55 AM
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It is great to move forward but with it there are lots of people who would suffer are we really willing to take it?
The poor are being discriminated by the society and yet this inventions would also be a competition for those who seek basic jobs to feed their family.
Now I understand why in some movies with high tech or robotics features there are always a place filled with only poor or dark side of glorious city because that would really happen when we live in that kind of generation.
But it is all just my imagination or what I think of when I read the title and see the thread.

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October 22, 2020, 11:23:13 AM
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It's not just an issue for 'physical' jobs. We are now in the age of big data, which offers huge potential for machine learning advancement, which in turn leads to the threat fo a lot of 'white collar' jobs being automated out.
The question is will new jobs arise to replace the old, jobs that only humans can do? I'm skeptical - if you automate out human labour, there are still jobs that require human intellect... if you automate out human intellect, where is there left to go?
This is why schemes such as UBI are enjoying so much attention... in preparation for a potential future with much fewer jobs available.






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October 23, 2020, 01:49:54 PM
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Unfortunately this is how the civilization works.New technology replaces human labor.People,who work in low and minimum wage jobs and are performing repetitive tasks are pretty much screwed.
However,I don't believe that this Spot Robot will be mass adopted by the small businesses anytime soon.

That's the reason why people are afraid of immediate advancement of technology due to that kind of issue.

Unemployment can really increase when we engage into a more advance and developed industry with the use of innovated machines and robots.

But we need to accept the fact that there is always changes when there's a time. We need to accept that our community should adapt on the things where it can make our lives easier and better with the use of technology. Human labor is also important but what can we do if we need to adapt in that kind of technology to help our economy grow better, especially in terms of production.

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October 25, 2020, 04:56:35 AM
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Unfortunately this is how the civilization works.New technology replaces human labor.People,who work in low and minimum wage jobs and are performing repetitive tasks are pretty much screwed.
However,I don't believe that this Spot Robot will be mass adopted by the small businesses anytime soon.

That's the reason why people are afraid of immediate advancement of technology due to that kind of issue.

Unemployment can really increase when we engage into a more advance and developed industry with the use of innovated machines and robots.

But we need to accept the fact that there is always changes when there's a time. We need to accept that our community should adapt on the things where it can make our lives easier and better with the use of technology. Human labor is also important but what can we do if we need to adapt in that kind of technology to help our economy grow better, especially in terms of production.

Jobs constantly become obsolete and disappear. This causes hiccups in the short term on an individual level, but the economy is constantly evolving and creating new industries and new jobs. People having been warning that the economy was facing ruin ever since the start of very efficient, mass-production factories in the 1940s. We've never reached the economic apocalypse on account of jobs disappearing because new jobs that people previously couldn't have imagined came into existence. There's no reason to think the doomsayers are right this time either.

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October 25, 2020, 06:08:47 PM
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I'm pretty sure a group of people bought that thing for their own pleasure, as you can see right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agE9nfxXqY8 (OfflineTV)

The worst case, any jobs that require real human will definitely vanished once everything become automatic. We have seen robot as the waiters, as the receptionist etc in the developed country such as Japan.
BUT, most of the conventional store/hotel/job still needs human do to their stuff, since human can make stuff better and has really high precision. Also not many industries have budget to actually afford buying robots :p

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October 26, 2020, 03:37:05 PM
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This is a very unrealistic scenario. Waiters are needed in restaurants, because they have a deep understanding of the customer preferences. If the restaurant tries to replace a waiter with a robot, they still need someone to give instructions to it all the time. So instead of employing one person (waiter), the restaurant will end up employing two persons in the same place (instructor + robot). Who will be interested in this costlier option?
Already we've got self served restaurant. People make the order and the food is produced to the table through a belt. This is found more effective, so a restaurant without waiter and waitress isn't a big deal. The owner should think of giving life to the waiter and waitresses. Apart from this, these restaurants won't give the ambience of being in a restaurant. It can even spoil the mood of eating.

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Everything in this world will change when AI robots is perfectly made. It helps every people to have an accurate work and give a complete services that made a business grow more further. However, workers will lose also their job because AI can do it all alone without a single help of a worker. Its only good to the employer and customer because of the quality it can made. But to the side of the people who lost jobs because there is an alternative ways already, I think its hard for them to adjust in situations like this.

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In the future, it will most likely happen that many professions will become unclaimed, but definitely not in the near future, because at the moment it all looks unfinished. Considering the speed of technological progress, the ready-made version for sale on the market will already be in 10-15 years.

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November 04, 2020, 10:14:52 PM
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In the future, it will most likely happen that many professions will become unclaimed, but definitely not in the near future, because at the moment it all looks unfinished. Considering the speed of technological progress, the ready-made version for sale on the market will already be in 10-15 years.

10-15 years? Its just way too much I guess, maybe a decade we would see this stuff but it all matters on how fast or slow the progress of technology is which as you had mentioned.

Majority of companies will really consider on making out such transition because they would surely see on what are the benefits and the savings that they would really make.

Losing jobs? this had been a problem yet technology does progress and involved on where man or physical jobs would make it even more simplier.

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Everything in this world will change when AI robots is perfectly made. It helps every people to have an accurate work and give a complete services that made a business grow more further. However, workers will lose also their job because AI can do it all alone without a single help of a worker. Its only good to the employer and customer because of the quality it can made. But to the side of the people who lost jobs because there is an alternative ways already, I think its hard for them to adjust in situations like this.
The system of unconditional basic income can serve as a way out of this situation. Humanity should be ashamed if in the future, with total robotization, there will be hunger and lack of effective medical care in the absence of funds for a citizen of the state. The current artificial intelligence is the first bell for humanity to create a fairer system of the world order. Some countries are already trying to take some steps in this direction with varying success, because there are many pitfalls in this issue, but it is still a question of the near future.
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can someone explain the meaning of the video? I only see four legged robots just walking around?
what does it mean to say that people's jobs will be replaced.
I think it will take a while to complete, or maybe not  Shocked

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November 08, 2020, 06:09:50 AM
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can someone explain the meaning of the video? I only see four legged robots just walking around?
what does it mean to say that people's jobs will be replaced.
I think it will take a while to complete, or maybe not  Shocked

Op thinks that these robots will be able to do basic jobs like waitressing or bellhopping just because it's able to walk somewhat decently.  I don't buy the utility of these particular robots for those applications. These robots might have utility in a war zone more than anything where they can carry supplies over rough terrain.  I don't seem much commercial utility for them in this form.

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The substitution of manual labor threatens those professions where there are no requirements for education and qualifications. All work that involves repetitive actions can be easily done by artificial intelligence. But it is difficult to imagine such professions that robots could perform. For example, these are doctors, surgeons, teachers. These professions will not face unemployment for a long time.
Nevertheless, such professions have appeared that can control robots. There are many more advantages to using robots, in my opinion.
And if we talk about the people themselves who become unemployed, then there is always the possibility of getting a new profession, retraining. It is always necessary to keep up with the times.

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Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys etc just lost their jobs

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Quite apart from the fact that there are some other costs for human employees besides salary, a robot would pay for itself even faster. But: There have been repeated attempts in the past to replace humans with robots and in the end all the experiments failed for various reasons. In Japan, there was a hotel with only robots as waitresses and butlers. This was abolished because the customers preferred to be served by humans. Walmart has also recently announced[1] that it will abolish the robots used to monitor the shelves and employ people again. You see this far too negatively.

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"Just lost their jobs" is overexaggerating and intentional clickbait type writing. It will be many years, maybe even decades before this sort of technology ever starts to take those sorts of jobs away. At the moment, this tech is still in the very early stages, and while it is impressive - I can only see it being used for very specialized jobs in the near term. It will be absolutely ideal for things like search and rescue after an earthquake, or as a more dexterous bomb disposal robot, but it's not going to be serving you a three course meal in a fancy restaurant for a long time to come. There may even be a bit of a political and public backlash in future if there is no way to replace the jobs, making it hard to survive without government support.

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November 08, 2020, 02:39:21 PM
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^ It won't be that fast a robot will be able to take over all human jobs. the ability of robots to do what humans usually do is still imperfect. it would take a few more years of research for robots to perfectly take over human jobs, especially to take over the jobs of waiters/bellboys.


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This reminds me of this clip. I bet one day this is what we'll have to face.
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^ It won't be that fast a robot will be able to take over all human jobs. the ability of robots to do what humans usually do is still imperfect. it would take a few more years of research for robots to perfectly take over human jobs, especially to take over the jobs of waiters/bellboys.



There's also a problem with safety features. If you make the robot weak and flimsy, he'll get damaged easily and won't be able to carry as much, open doors...
If you make him strong and tough he'll be hard to stop if anything goes wrong with his programming. There will be no need for hired hitmen anymore, you'll just have to reprogram the robot to kill the owner in his sleep.


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November 08, 2020, 04:18:51 PM
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^ It won't be that fast a robot will be able to take over all human jobs. the ability of robots to do what humans usually do is still imperfect. it would take a few more years of research for robots to perfectly take over human jobs, especially to take over the jobs of waiters/bellboys.
It will be also quite expensive.

As long as using robots in different establishments is not still normalized, then it will be difficult to buy robots to replace humans.

I agree with you that there are plenty of features they should add to robots before they replaced us.

While the robot improves and has developed many sensors, then it'll be costly so complete and automatic robots will take a lot of time before being used in our community.
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^ It won't be that fast a robot will be able to take over all human jobs. the ability of robots to do what humans usually do is still imperfect. it would take a few more years of research for robots to perfectly take over human jobs, especially to take over the jobs of waiters/bellboys.
It will be also quite expensive.

As long as using robots in different establishments is not still normalized, then it will be difficult to buy robots to replace humans.

I agree with you that there are plenty of features they should add to robots before they replaced us.

While the robot improves and has developed many sensors, then it'll be costly so complete and automatic robots will take a lot of time before being used in our community.
It's too early and people just cannot allow this thing to happen without making actions to the counterpart problems. Governments will not allow their people to suffer due to innovations because that will be in contrast with the concept itself. If that day will come where robots will replace humans in their jobs, those who will be replaced, should be moved to another field in order to suffice their needs. Actually it is more likely in the future for both innovations and people to co-exist and work together in order to achieve productivity.

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November 09, 2020, 12:17:04 PM
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"Just lost their jobs" is overexaggerating and intentional clickbait type writing. It will be many years, maybe even decades before this sort of technology ever starts to take those sorts of jobs away. At the moment, this tech is still in the very early stages, and while it is impressive - I can only see it being used for very specialized jobs in the near term. It will be absolutely ideal for things like search and rescue after an earthquake, or as a more dexterous bomb disposal robot, but it's not going to be serving you a three course meal in a fancy restaurant for a long time to come. There may even be a bit of a political and public backlash in future if there is no way to replace the jobs, making it hard to survive without government support.
Actually even when the technology has evolved enough we are still not sure if the technology will be used as much as humans. I give you an example, we have tennis matches where we use line umpires to make calls. Now recently I saw technology being made which can call all the calls based on hawkeye technology and it is as accurate as we are ever going to get. But despite that technology coming we are still having line umpires at US open and almost every other major tournament too. Why? Because while technology is good we cannot rely completely on that.

I do not see anyone losing their job in the coming 20 years and maybe after that humans will be enough evolved to avoid physical jobs and only do brain based jobs like humans do the thinking and robots do the implementation.

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November 09, 2020, 01:26:44 PM
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In the era of technology, many said that everyone would lose their jobs, but on the contrary, the development of technology would make human work simpler and more efficient. Maybe here we have to continuously develop our talents and skills so that we don't lose to technology in the future. Not all human jobs will be replaced by technology, no matter how sophisticated technology still requires human control and also monitoring it.
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November 09, 2020, 02:32:33 PM
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^ It won't be that fast a robot will be able to take over all human jobs. the ability of robots to do what humans usually do is still imperfect. it would take a few more years of research for robots to perfectly take over human jobs, especially to take over the jobs of waiters/bellboys.
And the ability of humans to learn with experiences and past instances is something robots will never achieve because they are programmed and don't have their own brain and hence no emotions. With emotions come understanding based on future situations on the same incident and robots can only work in a designated manner. Suppose a restaurant wants some changes in the working style then they can easily ask the human workers to adapt but the robot is not going to adapt to the situations and actions because it is once programmed not going to deter from it.

There is a chance that we might see some jobs replaced like a lot of machines are being used in the agriculture space but really everything that happens is for a good and when we lose our jobs we will have to come out of our comfort zone and think smartly because right now we have a specific job and we can't think outside of it.

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November 09, 2020, 09:12:41 PM
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Robots are cool, but I wouldn’t feel comfortable in a room filled with food-serving bots. So for me, this is not a cool idea. I know there are some robot freaks who likes robots and wouldn’t mind, but a restaurant that’s buying robots to serve food to customers is definitely chasing most of his customers away, it’s not everyone that’s going to like that.

Moreover I have seen most of them so called robots, they do have weird designs and gives me a feeling of The Terminator. And lastly I would like to add that the idea of having these robots replace human beings at their place of work doesn’t seem good to me, to be sincere.
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November 10, 2020, 11:33:56 AM
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In the future, i think there are really several jobs that would little by little be take over by robots. Those jobs that requires basic skill such as serving people like servers, bellboys, drivers, factory workers, receptionists, and the likes. The nature of their jobs have been slowly taken over by the AI’s and machineries which makes it more efficient to the business owners.

However, there are still jobs that will still be available regardless the innovation and technological advancement that we’ll soon have in the future. The professions and work that requires complex skill such as skills that the medical professionals have and those who have jobs related to computer and technology.
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November 10, 2020, 10:35:02 PM
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An electronic doglike creature will not do the same job as a waiter/waitress. What is this thread even about? Cheesy

You can train a monkey to sell entry tickets at the zoo but will that monkey be a reliable worker? Will you be able to keep it working for 8 hours a day 7 days a week?

We need human interaction and robots are not developed enough to work without supervision and supervision is expensive.

What would you prefer to pay a waiter $10 per hour or employ a robot for free but pay the supervising technician $20 per hour and cover the cost of parts?
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In the era of technology, many said that everyone would lose their jobs, but on the contrary, the development of technology would make human work simpler and more efficient. Maybe here we have to continuously develop our talents and skills so that we don't lose to technology in the future. Not all human jobs will be replaced by technology, no matter how sophisticated technology still requires human control and also monitoring it.

I agree, we need to upgrade skills  at par with technology. Technology and innovations are fast that we are being short of talents, especially the technical ones. Also, when the right time comes we also  need to have a  basic universal income to all especially the seniors, that way at least they can sustain life and address poverty.
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November 11, 2020, 06:39:05 AM
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People need to understand that in the modern world, it is very difficult to stick to one sector for 20 or 30 years. If there is a requirement to switch jobs, then you should be open to it. I understand that a lot of restaurant waiters, airlines cabin crew.etc have lost their jobs. So what is the solution here? Should they remain jobless, waiting for the economy to recover, or should they try to get a placement with some other sector?
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November 11, 2020, 07:27:24 AM
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Somehow it gave me goosebumps.

It is still way different when people are serving you.
You get smiles or sometimes you get an angry bellboy.  Grin
Human interaction is still the best or we will end up just like these robots without emotions even in the slightest things.
I hope I am dead when that happens.

This is definitely true. Human service is better than any technology can do. It's just a sad thing that most businesses prefer technology over human services maybe because of its faster and more convenient service. This would really have a huge impact in the employment rate that will also affect the economy in the future. I hope that businesses would also consider the employment needs of people around them.
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November 11, 2020, 07:43:14 AM
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A lot of people lost their jobs this year and it's almost all round the countries where the pandemic occurred, a lot of businesses could not continue and how do they make funds more money would be made on the internet because most people had to adopt there businesses on online marketing. So many organizations have not gained Ballance till now, they had to disengage their workers to avoid debts of wages/salaries.its time for everyone to rise up to survival.
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These robots are really incredible with responses to environment, an average of 90 minutes programmable time which is approximately to what man can do before going for a break and has the ability to switch to other robot when battery run down, I must say this is a top notch techno-robots.
While Robots are used to ease human work, they are also creating Demerit for human as many will lost their main source of income. But weighing the advantages and disadvantages, the advantage outgrown the other.
What about UN? I thought they have been against approval of public use of Robot since they can be manipulated and miss used by human. (Terrorisms)
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This is actually a very big problem. 

People were needed before.  Soldiers served in the army, peasants grew wheat, workers produced goods.  Therefore, universal education and health care appeared in all developed countries.  The states were interested in the health and education of soldiers, workers and peasants.  What's going on now? 

There was a war in Nagorno-Karabakh recently.  The outcome of the war was decided by drones.  The army no longer needs soldiers. 

Manufacturing automation means the industrial sector doesn't need workers - robots will replace them. 

People can go on strike.  However, what will this change?  Their labor is no longer needed.  Why educate people?  Why treat them?  Can it be enough to create a virtual space for them?  Let them spend time playing games.

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November 19, 2020, 11:08:40 AM
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Accept it or not technology always improves and there's always advantage and disadvantage. Nowadays what could make you earn much money is working white collar job and more specifically STEM which hardly replaceable by the robots. Other than that, you gonna risk being replaced by robot in the future. If this not anticipated by the government then there might be riots therefore we need universal income which comes from taxing all these robot workers. Our world just changes really significantly compared to it was back then.

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November 19, 2020, 07:16:02 PM
 #98

Accept it or not technology always improves and there's always advantage and disadvantage. Nowadays what could make you earn much money is working white collar job and more specifically STEM which hardly replaceable by the robots. Other than that, you gonna risk being replaced by robot in the future. If this not anticipated by the government then there might be riots therefore we need universal income which comes from taxing all these robot workers. Our world just changes really significantly compared to it was back then.
What is the problem if robots replace human jobs? Unemployment? well you can always find better jobs when robots and artificial intelligence will do the small tasks.

The real reason behind all this insecurity is actually lack of education because if you are well educated you do not have to worry about losing your job instead you can think like you are doing a favor by working for the current employer. As long as you think the owner is doing a favor by having you then you will always feel insecure but once you start investing on yourself such that you learn new skills everyday then you will have multiple options and the employer will feel insecure of losing such an employee. Being transparent and candor about what you do is really important and in current times even necessary.

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November 19, 2020, 07:42:51 PM
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Accept it or not technology always improves and there's always advantage and disadvantage. Nowadays what could make you earn much money is working white collar job and more specifically STEM which hardly replaceable by the robots. Other than that, you gonna risk being replaced by robot in the future. If this not anticipated by the government then there might be riots therefore we need universal income which comes from taxing all these robot workers. Our world just changes really significantly compared to it was back then.
What is the problem if robots replace human jobs? Unemployment? well you can always find better jobs when robots and artificial intelligence will do the small tasks.

The real reason behind all this insecurity is actually lack of education because if you are well educated you do not have to worry about losing your job instead you can think like you are doing a favor by working for the current employer. As long as you think the owner is doing a favor by having you then you will always feel insecure but once you start investing on yourself such that you learn new skills everyday then you will have multiple options and the employer will feel insecure of losing such an employee. Being transparent and candor about what you do is really important and in current times even necessary.
You cant say that because no matter how competent you are or does have the edge among other when it comes to intellect and achievement but due to
competition you would really still had the hard time on finding another job so It isn't really right to say that you shouldn't worry because you cant be sure that you would really be hired
immediately once you do try to seek out for some job.

For losing jobs due to technology era then its normal since we do progress but there are jobs which cant really be handled out by robots which means human work would still be needed.
We do need to adjust because we know on how these robots to give ease or make those jobs even more simplier and efficient.

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November 19, 2020, 09:26:29 PM
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These are the challenges of life that we have to face in today's technology era, therefore the importance of improving our skills
so that we can compete with other people or even robots. However humans have the ability to think creatively, we shouldn't be
afraid of losing our jobs because many robots replace human jobs. The thing to remember is that robots are human creations,
so logically we should be better than robots.

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November 19, 2020, 11:14:00 PM
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The investment could recover in 25 months that would in 2 years if we can apply using the 3K $ salary per month but if it is only 1000$ per month then it would tripple too the time needed to recover the investment and that would be more or less 75 months or 6 years and 3 mos. In that span of time there are maintenance expenses, parts and etc that will be added to the price of the robot. So, it will not be nice in own opinion but that thing invented could be revolutionary and in the future can be one of the proxy or replacement for huma workforce in a hotel or restaurant set up.

However, I am more satisfied with the service if human being if compared to robot because human can think can do fast compare to robot and can interact which it could also be possible to the robot but not as good as human being.
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November 19, 2020, 11:41:47 PM
 #102

These are the challenges of life that we have to face in today's technology era, therefore the importance of improving our skills
so that we can compete with other people or even robots. However humans have the ability to think creatively, we shouldn't be
afraid of losing our jobs because many robots replace human jobs. The thing to remember is that robots are human creations,
so logically we should be better than robots.
well, if all human work is assisted by robots, it will only make humans more useless, robots are not always safe because it has been made into a film that robots can be attacked by viruses that can go out of control and will only destroy mankind, robots indeed human creation but not necessarily safe to use.

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November 20, 2020, 03:09:27 PM
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Why not? Why don't all these people retrain into those who create and operate these robots?
After all, it is much more enjoyable to work in a highly technological and highly paid job than sitting with children or guarding a warehouse. Sellers will also end up out of work.
Lmao, you right tho'. People should always consider having a different skills.

Even skills like programming is highly in demand these days and anyone that’s good at it and get a good job that will be paying them more than they will get from being a waiter or waitress and whatever.

Technology is taking over everything, what other choice do we have than to then study things that has to do with technology and go into those areas.

It’s not good to have one skill and just relax in your comfort zone, you have to get out and learn something new.
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The thing to remember is that robots are human creations,
so logically we should be better than robots.

This is one truth that weal should know. Robots are created by humans and are meant for many task at a time. This multi type of task make make it easily to break down often times. They are always at repairs which cost companies more money from what they have produced. Robots are creation oof modern life anyway.
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November 20, 2020, 07:14:32 PM
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Accept it or not technology always improves and there's always advantage and disadvantage. Nowadays what could make you earn much money is working white collar job and more specifically STEM which hardly replaceable by the robots. Other than that, you gonna risk being replaced by robot in the future. If this not anticipated by the government then there might be riots therefore we need universal income which comes from taxing all these robot workers. Our world just changes really significantly compared to it was back then.
What is the problem if robots replace human jobs? Unemployment? well you can always find better jobs when robots and artificial intelligence will do the small tasks.

The real reason behind all this insecurity is actually lack of education because if you are well educated you do not have to worry about losing your job instead you can think like you are doing a favor by working for the current employer. As long as you think the owner is doing a favor by having you then you will always feel insecure but once you start investing on yourself such that you learn new skills everyday then you will have multiple options and the employer will feel insecure of losing such an employee. Being transparent and candor about what you do is really important and in current times even necessary.
You cant say that because no matter how competent you are or does have the edge among other when it comes to intellect and achievement but due to
competition you would really still had the hard time on finding another job so It isn't really right to say that you shouldn't worry because you cant be sure that you would really be hired
immediately once you do try to seek out for some job.

For losing jobs due to technology era then its normal since we do progress but there are jobs which cant really be handled out by robots which means human work would still be needed.
We do need to adjust because we know on how these robots to give ease or make those jobs even more simplier and efficient.
Unemployment nowadays isn't a sign only of a weak economy, but also a sign that technology is taking the place of human labor. And it's an irreversible tendency.
Machines already produce our food in agriculture and do most of the work in livestock, industry is almost 100% mechanized. The only kind of service humans are still priority are social services where the interaction between customer and servant is the main focus (human sciences), although there aren't enough spots for the whole human population occupy on this area.

So new kinds of jobs will have to be created and all of them related to hobby, leisure activities, while the machines do all the hard work.
Otherwise most people in the world will starve till death or rely in governamental or private welfarism forever.

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November 20, 2020, 10:58:31 PM
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The thing to remember is that robots are human creations,
so logically we should be better than robots.

This is one truth that weal should know. Robots are created by humans and are meant for many task at a time. This multi type of task make make it easily to break down often times. They are always at repairs which cost companies more money from what they have produced. Robots are creation oof modern life anyway.
But even if robots are created by humans, robots still have their advantage than us, humans.

Robots can't feel fatigue which is really good in terms of any work that needs physical activities. They just need to continue to maintain their condition or being checked to avoid any possible problems that might happen.


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November 21, 2020, 09:31:52 AM
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These robots are really incredible with responses to environment, an average of 90 minutes programmable time which is approximately to what man can do before going for a break and has the ability to switch to other robot when battery run down, I must say this is a top notch techno-robots.
While Robots are used to ease human work, they are also creating Demerit for human as many will lost their main source of income. But weighing the advantages and disadvantages, the advantage outgrown the other.
What about UN? I thought they have been against approval of public use of Robot since they can be manipulated and miss used by human. (Terrorisms)
That's true and innovation and robots are made to minimize human work such that we don't have to work physically, sometimes even mentally. I mean yes there will be people who have to lose their jobs but the truth is that you cannot expect others to carry you and instead of becoming a liability we need to think about how we can contribute to the place we work such that they can't kick us from the job.

A good example can be by doing multiple tasks and ensuring that the work you are doing is well worth for the owner or the boss and they cannot even think about removing you. As long as you stay in the bottom tier you are always at risk of being kicked, so move your way up and try to enter the tier where competition is less and jobs are open.

For example a waiter can work as a food delivery person in double shifts and the manager would never send robots to deliver food right? So you have multiple ways of securing your job instead of becoming a liability for your company.

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Yes, the world is changing, technology does not stand still. Robots will soon appear in many spheres of human activity. The use of robots is very beneficial for the employer; Robots do not need to pay wages, monitor the performance of their work, transfer to remote work.

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Yes, the world is changing, technology does not stand still. Robots will soon appear in many spheres of human activity. The use of robots is very beneficial for the employer; Robots do not need to pay wages, monitor the performance of their work, transfer to remote work.
Have you ever carried out maintenance and repair work for a Mercedes GL? The fact is that a high-tech device always requires very expensive and professional attention. The situation is the same with the robot. If we take into account the fact that there will be a choice of what or whom to use for the employer, a person or a robot as a waiter and a messenger, then a person will still be cheaper to use. In addition, the government is currently adopting laws where the Labor Code greatly infringes upon human rights, and there is no talk of real wages at all. people are on the brink of survival, working in very poor conditions.
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Not only waiters but also the other workers who live under the level of poverty. A maximum of workers lost their jobs during the pandemic. We hope this terrible situation should recover soon.

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And what you are going through is a NORMAL process. It is called PROGRESS. This has happened many times in the history of mankind. New technologies appear that by themselves make some processes more optimal, which leads to a decrease in the need for some resources, including human ones, in this case. It's just that those who potentially will not be in demand soon - it is necessary to re-profile, study promising technologies in order to take their place in the changed society. Although I agree - not everyone will be able to adapt ...

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January 31, 2021, 06:50:56 PM
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Not only waiters but also the other workers who live under the level of poverty. A maximum of workers lost their jobs during the pandemic. We hope this terrible situation should recover soon.
But, do we ever wonder what the situation will be like when all these people have lost their jobs and there is no other way for them make income?

Education is expensive for most families and most people who don’t finish school usually have to end up with jobs like that, so if there are no such jobs and most of the things they have to do have been taken over by robots, what kind of situation are we going to find ourselves into, that should be the question??? The rich don’t care, they are rich already and they can do all that to cover up their expenses.
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I was doing a part-time job to survive and complete my graduation.
Tragically I lost my employment because of the pandemic crisis. I am lucky that I am a part of the bitcoin community and procuring more than the low maintenance occupations.
The majority of my companions begin looking for employment since they couldn't satisfy their obligations and without work, they can not endure.
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There will be years before real robots adoptions in hotels and cafes
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I was doing a part-time job to survive and complete my graduation.
Tragically I lost my employment because of the pandemic crisis. I am lucky that I am a part of the bitcoin community and procuring more than the low maintenance occupations.
The pandemic was a bad time for everyone, i am yet to receive my full salary for the past several months and i was unlucky in terms of missing out on investing in cryptocurrency according to my plans and it revolved around the payment i was about to receive. I understand your difficulties but what i did not understand is how can you earn being part of the community just by joining campaigns ? .
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I was doing a part-time job to survive and complete my graduation.
Tragically I lost my employment because of the pandemic crisis. I am lucky that I am a part of the bitcoin community and procuring more than the low maintenance occupations.
The majority of my companions begin looking for employment since they couldn't satisfy their obligations and without work, they can not endure.
Unfortunately there are a lot of people who lost their jobs because of the pandemic, all around the world as well not just in certain places, there are hundreds of millions of unemployed people in the world right now and that is a real crisis.

Certainly these robots do play a role in there, not these specific ones because they do not really matter but there is more automation in the manufacturing for example, and there are more automation in many other places (highest is manufacturing) and that causes people who would work there to go find jobs somewhere else and people who work in those other jobs have more competition as well which means even if you weren't interested in working at manufacturing, you could lose your job because some manufacturing guy became waiter because his job was given to some robot. At the end of the day it is not easy and the future doesn't look great neither, be glad that you are in crypto and ahead of the curve.
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Now we have become eyewitnesses of a coincidence of circumstances, namely: a pandemic of the virus, a new technological round. Both phenomena lead to "freeing hands". The first, the virus, affected the business, where the main process is human-human interaction - bartenders, waiters, hairdressers, salespeople, ....
The second one automates processes replacing human labor. Both processes are natural, predictable, and we are forced to accept them, that is, ACCEPT! And only by accepting, we will understand that it is necessary to develop new approaches to building business, relationships, production processes, etc. since we cannot stop the virus now, and we will not be able to stop progress (unless, of course, a nuclear war, as a result of which we will all return to the Stone Age). We will fight the virus for at least 2-3 years, and this is still an optimistic forecast.

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Yes, the world is changing, technology does not stand still. Robots will soon appear in many spheres of human activity. The use of robots is very beneficial for the employer; Robots do not need to pay wages, monitor the performance of their work, transfer to remote work.

But robots won't replace waiters and bellboys. Human contact is too important for that. Even in tech-savvy Japan, robots were abolished as service personnel in a hotel and replaced by humans because they couldn't offer what humans offer. Robots are increasingly used in production, but this also creates new jobs.
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As the saying goes - "If it decreased in one place, it was added in another place." For example, the number of workers in delivery services has grown significantly, now we just have a boom in demand for these services. From ordering food in restaurants / cafes / pubs to regular home delivery of groceries from retail chains. The demand for online services has grown - all offline sellers are switching to online whenever possible. Automation and "virtualization" of businesses that are negatively affected by restrictive measures and this is the demand for the development, implementation, support of projects. Most likely, this trend will continue for another 2-3 years, and will probably become a common practice.

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It all happens because of this pandemic, it really cause hotels and resorts' owners to shutdown their business and all of their employees lost their job. The reason of it is the lockdown and travel ban in most countries in our world. There are also lot of people who lost their jobs not just Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys, and I am hoping that we may all overcome this pandemic.
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In every sector, the major adverse effect of technology is the decrease in the number of jobs available. Over the years, people are being replaced by technology and machines with every new level of technology. Less and less number of people are required to do these jobs because of machines, from the banking sector to the agricultural sector to the transportation industry to the medical industry to the any industry you can think of.
With this spot robot, quite a number of waiters and bellboys would lose their jobs. I, however, believe that there'll be slow adoption among the medium and small scale hotels

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