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Boston Dynamics have been working on these things for about a decade now and I still do not think that they are ready for anything. Don't get me wrong eventually they will be useful for something but for now they are still quite useless, which means there is at least another 10 years until they are useful and after that we need rapid production for everyone to have one and that will take another 10-20 years probably, so we are very fine, a kid who starts working as a waiter now and work until he retires would be able to do that without getting interrupted by these things.
However with robotics, manifesting improvements, even vertical farming all makes people less useful as well, I would rather have robot workers than human workers as well if I had that chance.
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Shasha80
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September 29, 2020, 11:05:13 PM |
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One of the bad effects of technological advances can indeed threaten human life, with the increasing number of robotic projects to replace the role of human labor. This is indeed beneficial for business owners, because they can reduce payroll expenses. But on the other hand there will be a lot of people who lose their jobs. Fortunately, the price of robots to replace humans is still expensive, and has not been mass-produced. So for small companies they still prefer human labor, for the time being it is still safe for human workers.
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September 30, 2020, 04:01:29 AM |
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One of the bad effects of technological advances can indeed threaten human life, with the increasing number of robotic projects to replace the role of human labor. This is indeed beneficial for business owners, because they can reduce payroll expenses. But on the other hand there will be a lot of people who lose their jobs. Fortunately, the price of robots to replace humans is still expensive, and has not been mass-produced. So for small companies they still prefer human labor, for the time being it is still safe for human workers.
Though it is a nice investment, but some businesses still need human compassion or interaction. The human service is totally different from a robot. But there are some tasks that robot can perfectly execute and no human error of course. If you are a business owner, just weigh your pros and cons, short-term or long-term scenarios and what it will do to your overall performance in business.
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The good thing I am rooting for is that when most jobs are replaced by robots, the populace will all have a chance to be inclined to a more scientific endeavors like doctors, engineers, scientists and other STEM related oppurtunities. But considering capitalism and consumerism, we might be going down a dark path. The idyllic scenario will be achieved if right now we are experimenting with different types of governance, like universal basic income or something of the same nature as the former.
The state does have an obligation to ensure the basic needs of its citizens. I think the idea of distributive justice with universal basic income is very appropriate because it encourages the transfer of public resources to the most disadvantaged members of society and to reduce individual losses arising from poverty. In addition, it provides income security, to meet basic needs. With UBI, there will be no more exploitation to the lower classes and their employers will respect their human rights.
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October 02, 2020, 03:17:05 PM |
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We had this concept cafe where I live, they built this amazingly simple robot type thing, the ones that follows a black tape and gets your order via some screen you touch to pick and then goes back with the tape and the cook (who is human) prepares it and puts the plates on the tray at the hands of the robot and that robot brings it. Do not think of robot that looks like human, this was more like a developed toy car but taller basically.
So, these things started in the very basic simple concept stage and it wasn't really well liked but at least it started, if it is here in 2020 I am sure it is going to be something quite common all around the world to have proper robots taking orders and even maybe cook the food as well by 2030 or so which would be rad if you ask me.
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October 02, 2020, 05:58:24 PM |
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See even though robotics are becoming a big part of today's technology there won't be every restaurant owner willing to invest in it. Some might prefer the old style way and maybe start vintage chains while we are in a futuristic society getting served by robots. At the same time , there would be people necessary to take care of the robots, make sure they are charged , clean them , check if they are working correctly, to through the reviews and thus if these jobs close there would be more present in different sector. Which does mean the people doing hotel management can shift towards IT and software. This all goes hand in hand, if jobs are less in one sector, people would just move in another, it would still take years to actually achieve the society that would make everyone loose their jobs like this. Probable but would still take years or decades.
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October 02, 2020, 07:44:59 PM |
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There is one big problem with the claim that OP is making, of all waiters and bellboys losing their jobs.
One Spot robot costs $74500, as you said. A catering business employs several waiters, bellboys and other people. The amount of money you'd have to spend on these robots easily exceeds even a large budget. Say you hire 20 people, the amount of money for an equal number of Spot robots is more than $1.5 million. It's just not worth it to spend that much for just robots. People's salaries can be paid in monthly installments which is much easier on businesses because no small business has millions of dollars available upfront.
So as long as you have to spend that much money for large numbers of robots, you're not going to see them on the street daily. They're reserved for special jobs where benefits of using a robot have been researched.
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October 02, 2020, 08:30:12 PM |
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Here we are comparing humans to robots, indeed that these robots can do the man's job but that was just a basic one. It's not about having these robots to be so called futuristic establishment, human effort is much appreciated than these one. And about the salary, daring to compare these numbers are futile in my opinion. Owners replacing their human workers for these bots are selfish, not just to the worker but for his country's economy.
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October 02, 2020, 09:19:27 PM |
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Automation kills the job market, owners will think of making money through investment rather than giving life. Through automation it'll perform the assigned work with the same energy throughout, and human beings cannot do the same. If one invested $74500, he'll recover the investment in about two years time. By the time it'll go outdated and he needs to update it. Business is always business, so after buying too, there'll be regular maintenance charges. Only then companies manufacturing it can sustain long.
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October 03, 2020, 07:00:11 AM |
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We can never be compare a person to a robot, the robot is only good at first but it will cost a lot of money for its maintenance, when most of the restaurant owner do this, it's just like they taking away the livelihood of many individuals. There are still many things that a robot can not do and when it comes to service, human is still the best because they serve with a smile.
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shoreno
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October 03, 2020, 08:33:40 AM |
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i knew waiter and waitreses but 1k to 3k usd per month for bell boy job ? holy sh!t that was alot . i wonder what kind of task does a bell boy do .
i know there was a human clock too and i saw it on the video but i dont know if that is legit because it looks funny and whats the use of it when there are already clocks that works automatically . most of the workers lost thier jobs during the covid strike but for those that earns alot , it can be painful .
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October 04, 2020, 04:09:19 AM |
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The new technology is good but it's awful for the human. Replacing humans with robots can be harmful to our society. Who's know they'll be a robotic doctor too and many doctors can lose their jobs. The government should take action against it because if every person start losing the job they won't able to pay taxes which impact badly on the country's economy
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October 06, 2020, 04:40:51 PM |
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We had this concept cafe where I live, they built this amazingly simple robot type thing, the ones that follows a black tape and gets your order via some screen you touch to pick and then goes back with the tape and the cook (who is human) prepares it and puts the plates on the tray at the hands of the robot and that robot brings it. Do not think of robot that looks like human, this was more like a developed toy car but taller basically.
So, these things started in the very basic simple concept stage and it wasn't really well liked but at least it started, if it is here in 2020 I am sure it is going to be something quite common all around the world to have proper robots taking orders and even maybe cook the food as well by 2030 or so which would be rad if you ask me.
There are already robots that cook and as you may guess they are not very good yet but give them a decade and they will begin to replace human cooks all over the world as they become cheaper and more efficient, or take a look at self-driving cars that will come on the future and that will leave without jobs all of those people which transport goods from one side of the country to the other, taxi drivers and all people that offer those kind of services.
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October 06, 2020, 04:53:14 PM |
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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots.
Seriously, all the points you made above are valid. And I know technology is moving forward at an incredible pace, but there are only so many human jobs that can be replaced by robots. When I'm in my local grocery store and I see that fucking mobile robot doing whatever suspicious activities it's doing, I just want to push it over on its long axis until it's completely horizontal and see if it can get up. Human BellBoy salary 1000-3000 usd / month ( developed countries )
$3000/month isn't too bad a salary for a bellboy, assuming that doesn't include tips. $1000/month sucks, but there are still plenty of people who'd be willing to work for that amount, and I think it'd be a shame if they were replaced by robots.
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October 06, 2020, 05:01:15 PM |
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I think there's a lot to consider and take into account before arriving at the conclusion that this robot can adequately substitute human labor. It's possible that in the future it will be able to but what I surmise from this ad is that it can work together with humans, not on its own. Let's not forget that people have been saying that machines will be able to replace humans for decades, and granted, in some jobs they have, but I think that in this case it's not that easy, especially when you have to deal with the jobs mentioned.
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October 06, 2020, 05:05:08 PM |
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As far as I've glimpsed, it's not merely the waiters/ waitresses/ bellboys who have lost their jobs. Many proficient people are victims of this pandemic crisis. In our country, 30-40% of the people who are in private companies are forfeiting their jobs. Where the people of the company are like this, waiters/ waitresses/ bellboys will forfeit their jobs soon. There is no necessity to talk about those whose family status is middle class and lower class. If this proceeds, they will have to confront several tough circumstances.
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October 06, 2020, 06:21:21 PM |
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Is this the video about the launch of the Spot Robot from Boston Dynamics? The humanoid robots are far from gaining the kind of dexterity and maneuverability to function in a room crowded with people bumping into them. Even if some day they did, i don't think that patrons would prefer continue going to a restaurant to be served by charm-less robots. A real waitress/ waiter has so much more to offer to the ambiance as well as the customer. Some "services" would always remain better with humans.
This is sincerely agreeable for me. Even if someday robots will be able to take over jobs and serves as human replacement tools, still there are lots of functionality that humans can only do that robots cannot afford such as the customer service that provides a very vibing ambiance which customers like of course do always look after upon eating on restaurants. Actually that is also kinda true that it would be hard for those robots to maneuver on crowded places like fast food chains and restaurants like human waiters/waitresses can do so it is pretty much better to get along with humans to be servants. Yes we are facing into the phase of automation but still there are certain works that will stay upon humans can only afford to do. But it is still the reality that there is a big possibility of unemployment rate to arise because of this possibility that humans will be replaced by robots and be able to take over their jobs.
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October 06, 2020, 09:26:03 PM |
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Waiters/Waitresses/bellboys etc just lost their jobs Spot Price 74500 USD Human BellBoy salary 1000-3000 usd / month ( developed countries ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlkCQXHEgjA74500 usd / 3000 = in around 25 months i will recover my investment with Spot as a hotel owner ,no more need for human worker ... ---------------------------- Boston Dynamics It saddens me that most of us could lose our jobs because of the latest technology. We're all grateful before that the latest technology has been making our lives easier but we didn't know that it could also replace even us. Technology nowadays is too unpredictable because people could invent things beyond our imagination so if we think that our job is replaceable by robots in the future, then we should look for better opportunities as early as possible.
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October 07, 2020, 05:19:28 AM |
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Given the level of service of some establishments and the attitude of the waiters to their work, I will only be happy with such a replacement. Constant rudeness, begging for tips for nothing and just not caring about their work - this is not what I expect when I come to a cafe or restaurant for lunch. I will be happy to go to a place where robots will serve everything. Not only will it be quite new and interesting, but at the same time I will not get negative feedback from hostesses and waiters who think too much about themselves.
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October 07, 2020, 05:33:37 AM |
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That is the result of the successful technology, the innovation is really shown up with the video. It seems to be very useful for them to have AI. There is also a high possibility that there would be many robots in the future that will help every company and business in the service. It feels good to see a robot serving for you, I am really amazed at what technology can do for many people. We are still in the 21st century and there are still many things that might happen..
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