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May 26, 2022, 11:44:03 PM
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Hahaha maybe I'm craving salad, I will talk to my wife.

I'm not sure about VDJ's injury; hopefully he'll be ready for the game; I don't want to hear excuses if they lose to Real Madrid.
I think it is a matter of when they lose.

Even after defeating Manchester City in an epic semi-final and having a battle against Chelsea, I think Real Madrid will be strong enough to take on Liverpool and beat them. If Liverpool put out a team without Salah, Allison or van Dijk there will always be excuses about why they lost.

If Liverpool had been drawn to this route, I doubt they would have survived PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City; Real Madrid were completely dead in all three games and came back to life 10 minutes before the end of the games, incredible journey!!! They deserve this trophy, but football can be cruel at times.

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Dunno man...  It feels like Klopp is saving his squad for this moment and having lost his first UCL final vs Liverpool, I don't think he'll allow it to happen again.  Not saying they couldn't lose but Klopp and his boys wouldn't be going out of this without a fight. Any props that we should be looking at here?
Of course Klopp will not let Liverpool always be conquered by Real Madrid easily. His team's previous defeat to Real Madrid should have taught him a lesson and experience so it doesn't repeat itself this season. I am very curious about what he will do in the final, but he must prepare a good strategy to apply during the match so that his chances of winning the title this season are not wasted.
In any case, the current Liverpool is a more tactical team than Real Madrid. It was the fact that Josep Guardiola paid more attention to tactics, rather than relying on the individual game of players like Carlo Ancelotti, that was called one of the reasons for the defeat of Manchester City. That is, the team lacked a plan B when tactical plan A began to crack at the seams, after Real Madrid quickly equalized the score, and then went ahead in extra time. However, I would not blame Manchester City so much for this, because it is difficult to quickly rebuild when the other team quickly compares the score in added time and the situation turns upside down.

@AndySt knowing Klopp I’m sure that he would have worked out 100+ scenarios for this match, and each time he would have ended it with him leading Liverpool to a victory hence I’m expecting Liverpool to rain fire on Real Madrid player’s. However I personally feel that Liverpool will attack too much, and Real Madrid will slip in that odd goal on the counter and go on to win the match.
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May 27, 2022, 12:06:39 PM
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Liverpool would have found it difficult to have overcome PSG and Chelsea and Manchester City in the same season but as you said Rea Madrid did it and are in the final. Liverpool had a much easier time in their semi-final victory over Villrreal but they will face a giant in world football when they meet Real Madrid in the final tomorrow.

If Liverpool had been drawn to this route, I doubt they would have survived PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City; Real Madrid were completely dead in all three games and came back to life 10 minutes before the end of the games, incredible journey!!! They deserve this trophy, but football can be cruel at times.

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May 27, 2022, 04:02:07 PM
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Nobody!!! They should be happy that they faced toothless Chelsea in both the FA Cup and the Carabao Cup finals and won both games on penalties; they are far from the best team; Real Madrid will undoubtedly thrash them in the UFC final, and I can beat my chest on that!!!
Ooo nice!  Some little friendly banter on the night of the match.  I hope you guys could be active itt.  It's just so much fun having to laugh and talk to you guys while the game is playing live.  

Dunno man...  It feels like Klopp is saving his squad for this moment and having lost his first UCL final vs Liverpool, I don't think he'll allow it to happen again.  Not saying they couldn't lose but Klopp and his boys wouldn't be going out of this without a fight.

Any props that we should be looking at here?

I don't like to chat during games, but I will definitely run a commentary on this one on Saturday if I'm not too busy. The pressure is on Liverpool, who want to exact revenge on Real Madrid after they lost the league the last time they met. I'm not sure any English fans are rooting for Liverpool in this one, as they have gradually become the league's most despised club.

As there are no injuries to report, both teams will have their best players available for the game.

I've already thrown $50 to Real Madrid at the odd price of 3.45 odd

Wtf?  When?  Why??   And how did that happen?  I might be out of it for too long as I haven't been following a lot of football news as I should.  But I don't see why I missed something like LFC being the EPL's most despised club.

Anyway..  Liverpool def wants revenge for the loss at Kiev.  I think it was 2018?  But yeah, the win will be huge and extra special for the club.  And Klopp!  I got just around 30 bucks riding on Liverpool but not too confident.  That 30 could be around 25 by match day as BTC keeps selling down.  Cheesy  LFC has the better squad tho.

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May 27, 2022, 07:22:00 PM
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Wtf?  When?  Why??   And how did that happen?  I might be out of it for too long as I haven't been following a lot of football news as I should.  But I don't see why I missed something like LFC being the EPL's most despised club.
Yes, rival fans and coaches dislike the fact that the FA and the English media are leaking Liverpool's ass, they lied about having 13 covid19 cases in January and got away with it even after the FA discovered the truth, they were the only club to play the entire season without conceding a penalty despite all the kicking from Matip and Kanote every single game, which bores every fan against them.

The English Premier League official page never tweeted or sent a congratulatory message when Chelsea won the UEFA Champions League last season, but they were all twerking when Liverpool won it in 2019. The FA is completely corrupt.

None of the English VAR officials are going to the World Cup, FIFA do not rate them, they are incompetent to the highest level.

Liverpool would have found it difficult to have overcome PSG and Chelsea and Manchester City in the same season but as you said Rea Madrid did it and are in the final. Liverpool had a much easier time in their semi-final victory over Villrreal but they will face a giant in world football when they meet Real Madrid in the final tomorrow.
Always getting the easy draw!!!  Grin

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Here we go... the final is ON but the kick-off has been delayed by 30 minutes until 8.30pm Grin

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Here we go... the final is ON but the kick-off has been delayed by 30 minutes until 8.30pm Grin

Yup...  It's the prematch show now.  Imagine if Messi was dancing the flamenco around the singer.  Lolol.

Edit:  How long is this gonna be.  I want the game already.  -_-

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Last edit: May 31, 2022, 12:43:34 AM by mprep
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36 minutes gone and Real Madrid look dangerous every single time they break.

Here we go... the final is ON but the kick-off has been delayed by 30 minutes until 8.30pm Grin

Yup...  It's the prematch show now.  Imagine if Messi was dancing the flamenco around the singer.  Lolol.

Edit:  How long is this gonna be.  I want the game already.  -_-



What a goal!!! The Benzima goal should have stood. Real Madrid should have been awarded the goal because Fabinho went in for the tackle therefore it does not matter if he did not play the ball deliberately.

Shameful VAR decision.

The teams just walked off, it is half-time.



after 59 minutes GOAL scored by Vinicius Junior !!!!


Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool







Here is the Real Madrid goal from a different angle:






On 69 minutes this was just one of a number of saves by Real Madrid goalkeeper Courtois who has been brilliant in goal.




This diving save was on 64 minutes:





Real Madrid 1-0 Liverpool

The game has ended with Real Madrid winning the Champions League 5 times in the last 9 years. They won the Champions League now a staggering total of 14 times.






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Anyway..  Liverpool def wants revenge for the loss at Kiev.  I think it was 2018?  But yeah, the win will be huge and extra special for the club.  And Klopp!  I got just around 30 bucks riding on Liverpool but not too confident.  That 30 could be around 25 by match day as BTC keeps selling down.  Cheesy  LFC has the better squad tho.

WHAT. A. REVENGE!!!  Grin

What a goal!!! The Benzima goal should have stood. Real Madrid should have been awarded the goal because Fabinho went in for the tackle therefore it does not matter if he did not play the ball deliberately.

Shameful VAR decision.

The teams just walked off, it is half-time.
I knew the moment VAR took 4 minutes to check a very obvious goal, so I knew something was up behind the scenes. At least the entire world saw the liVARpool privilege tonight, Fabinho intentionally kicked the ball to Benzima's way, but VAR says it was unintentional. fucking liars, Well, I'm glad they lost, and Chelsea just made another £25 million from the Hazard deal. Salah has been a disaster in cup finals, having played 14 finals without scoring a goal. Hala, Madrid!!!

Courtious' man-of-the-match performance kept Real Madrid in the game from the first minute until the final whistle with fantastic saves.

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Well Liverpool fell well short of a performance that should or could have won them the Champions League. They had opportunities to take revenge but they did not gel, they did not perform, they failed to take their chances because Courtois was in great form and played average.

Ancelotti did brilliant in his first season back at Real Madrid. What a brilliant tactician.

As a player with AC Milan, Ancelotti won the European Cup (the previous incarnation of the Champions League) twice and as a manager he has won the Champions League 4 times (twice with AC Milan and twice with Real Madrid). He is the only manager to have won 4 Champions League titles.

As a player:
1989 and 1990 with AC Milan

As manager:
2003 and 2007 with AC Milan.
2014 and 2022 with Real Madrid




Anyway..  Liverpool def wants revenge for the loss at Kiev.  I think it was 2018?  But yeah, the win will be huge and extra special for the club.  And Klopp!  I got just around 30 bucks riding on Liverpool but not too confident.  That 30 could be around 25 by match day as BTC keeps selling down.  Cheesy  LFC has the better squad tho.

WHAT. A. REVENGE!!!  Grin

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What is there to be sad about as far as Liverpool are concerned. They won two domestic cups and came runners-up in the Premier League and the Champions League. It is a good season for any team to get that far.


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Well Liverpool fell well short of a performance that should or could have won them the Champions League. They had opportunities to take revenge but they did not gel, they did not perform, they failed to take their chances because Courtois was in great form and played average.

They had the game under control in the first half but failed to capitalize on opportunities. Real Madrid were outplayed throughout the game, no doubt about it, but they also have a funny way of getting results their way when you least expect it, they had only one shot at goal, LiVARpool had about 14. Courtois won the trophy for Real Madrid; without him, the team would have conceded 5 goals.

What is there to be sad about as far as Liverpool are concerned. They won two domestic cups and came runners-up in the Premier League and the Champions League. It is a good season for any team to get that far.
Caraboa cup = $100k, FA cup =£3.2M,  and £16m  from champions league silver medal, while Chelsea gains approximately £25 million from Liverpool's failure to win the champions league. They made nothing this season financially. Realistically, Chelsea had a better season than Liverpool. With two trophies, and 3rd position.


Mane has officially announced that he will leave LiVARpool at the end of the season, and we are now waiting for Salah to make a decision about his LiVARpool future. Do you know that Mane only makes £100k/week? Some Chelsea Academy players earn that much as well. He is deserving of better.

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With Mane leaving having played his final game for Liverpool, it will be a massive loss for them. I am not sure who they can buy to replace him and losing him will upset the balance of the team. Liverpool will be a weaker team without him.

Most Liverpool fans are happy Salah said he will be staying for the start of next season but his contract expires at the end of next season and the only reason he is staying for another season is because he will leave on a free transfer and receive a multi-million pound signing on fee when goes to a club such as PSG, Barcelona or Real Madrid. If money talks too much he might he go to Newcastle United now they are bankrolled by a nation.

It is understandable you call them LiVARpool because throughout so much of the season they had VAR decision in their favour when some of those decisions were clearly wrong.

Well Liverpool fell well short of a performance that should or could have won them the Champions League. They had opportunities to take revenge but they did not gel, they did not perform, they failed to take their chances because Courtois was in great form and played average.

They had the game under control in the first half but failed to capitalize on opportunities. Real Madrid were outplayed throughout the game, no doubt about it, but they also have a funny way of getting results their way when you least expect it, they had only one shot at goal, LiVARpool had about 14. Courtois won the trophy for Real Madrid; without him, the team would have conceded 5 goals.

What is there to be sad about as far as Liverpool are concerned. They won two domestic cups and came runners-up in the Premier League and the Champions League. It is a good season for any team to get that far.
Caraboa cup = $100k, FA cup =£3.2M,  and £16m  from champions league silver medal, while Chelsea gains approximately £25 million from Liverpool's failure to win the champions league. They made nothing this season financially. Realistically, Chelsea had a better season than Liverpool. With two trophies, and 3rd position.


Mane has officially announced that he will leave LiVARpool at the end of the season, and we are now waiting for Salah to make a decision about his LiVARpool future. Do you know that Mane only makes £100k/week? Some Chelsea Academy players earn that much as well. He is deserving of better.

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May 30, 2022, 06:12:15 PM
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With Mane leaving having played his final game for Liverpool, it will be a massive loss for them. I am not sure who they can buy to replace him and losing him will upset the balance of the team. Liverpool will be a weaker team without him.
Yes, no doubt, but looking at his goal stats at LiVARpool, Salah was taking all the headlines, after Mane won the AFCON, none of his teammates congratulated him online because of Salah, which to me was very wrong, before the start of the recently concluded season, he had a clash with Salah for being so selfish in games, the matter was resolved by the manager, but I don't think he's leaving because of all this, he's 30 he's leaving for a better pay rise somewhere. Wish Chelsea could get him he's a great player.

Most Liverpool fans are happy Salah said he will be staying for the start of next season but his contract expires at the end of next season and the only reason he is staying for another season is because he will leave on a free transfer and receive a multi-million pound signing on fee when goes to a club such as PSG, Barcelona or Real Madrid.
That's the new trend among players nowadays, they're selfish and just want to get everything for themselves, now is the best time to sell him because it's obvious he'll leave for free next season, but losing Mane and Salah in a single summer will ruin LiVARpool for a long time and I don't see it happening.

It is understandable you call them LiVARpool because throughout so much of the season they had VAR decision in their favour when some of those decisions were clearly wrong.
No doubt!!!

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May 30, 2022, 06:46:11 PM
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Yes, no doubt, but looking at his goal stats at LiVARpool, Salah was taking all the headlines, after Mane won the AFCON, none of his teammates congratulated him online because of Salah, which to me was very wrong, before the start of the recently concluded season, he had a clash with Salah for being so selfish in games, the matter was resolved by the manager, but I don't think he's leaving because of all this, he's 30 he's leaving for a better pay rise somewhere. Wish Chelsea could get him he's a great player.
Mane joined Liverpool when he was 24 and has had a good career there. He is 30 years old now and has been losing Champions League finalist twice and Champions League winner once. He has also won the Premier League once as well as several domestic cups. I think he does not have anything to prove to anybody because he did it all and he deserves to play in a different league where he could finish his career with a good wage and new challenge.
 
That's the new trend among players nowadays, they're selfish and just want to get everything for themselves, now is the best time to sell him because it's obvious he'll leave for free next season, but losing Mane and Salah in a single summer will ruin LiVARpool for a long time and I don't see it happening.
Yes losing Mane and Salah would have created problems for Klopp because he simply does not have a replacement for either. Mane will be sold for around £30 million and that is too high for a 30 year old but some clubs will pay it.

Salah will walk for free in to the arms of a big club that will pay him a large signing-on fee near the £5 million mark and pay him well over £250,000 a week. If you were Mane and were getting half of what Salah was getting at Liverpool you would want to leave too. I think Mane should have stayed and saw his contract out before leaving on a free transfer too.

I imagine Liverpool losing Mane and Salah in the same season would be too much for the fans therefore they will cash in on Mane now and allow Salah to go for free next season. The image below is from February 2021 but the salaries are current:


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May 30, 2022, 07:45:16 PM
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Salah will walk for free in to the arms of a big club that will pay him a large signing-on fee near the £5 million mark and pay him well over £250,000 a week. If you were Mane and were getting half of what Salah was getting at Liverpool you would want to leave too. I think Mane should have stayed and saw his contract out before leaving on a free transfer too.
If he stays until he's 31, his value will decrease and not every club will want to offer a good wage to a 31 year old player, 30 is a decent year to move and this is the best time, Bayern is already the frontrunner to get him but personal terms have not been agreed upon yet, Juventus is also interested in services, let's wait and see what happens when the marker official open in a few days time..

I imagine Liverpool losing Mane and Salah in the same season would be too much for the fans therefore they will cash in on Mane now and allow Salah to go for free next season. The image below is from February 2021 but the salaries are current:
Pay is ridiculous!!! Looks like aid table team wages; I'm sure Everton and Leicester City pay more than Liverpool. Origi makes £49k per week? Now I see why he's leaving at the end of the season as well: pay these players well before oil-rich clubs come knocking. They have made a lot of money to this club.


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May 30, 2022, 08:06:50 PM
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I will delete all the post  Grin

I liked Muhammad Salah a lot. I am a bit sad that liverpool lost the game.
I hope Salah is in good spirits - But finally the tournament is over and the trophy got its new home. Real Madrid team was so happy.
But my good wishes with Salah!

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May 30, 2022, 10:39:35 PM
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Lewandowski announces his departure from Bayern Munich after referring to the club as "unserious," but what happened behind the scenes? Could it be that the club refused to extend his contract, or that the club has failed to make a mark in the championship league since the last time they won it? Tolisso is also leaving for nothing, so this will be an interesting transfer window. I can't wait to see him play in a decent league; he's spent his entire career in the Bundesliga; it's time to write a new chapter; Barcelona is his preferred option, as far as I know.

Chelsea's takeover is now complete, so it's time to fill some open spots in the team now that we're sanction-free.

Good you deleted his garbage post.

I will delete all the posts Grin
Take your post count to somewhere else man!! Wtf you saying?

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Yes, no doubt, but looking at his goal stats at LiVARpool, Salah was taking all the headlines, after Mane won the AFCON, none of his teammates congratulated him online because of Salah, which to me was very wrong, before the start of the recently concluded season, he had a clash with Salah for being so selfish in games, the matter was resolved by the manager, but I don't think he's leaving because of all this, he's 30 he's leaving for a better pay rise somewhere. Wish Chelsea could get him he's a great player.
Mane joined Liverpool when he was 24 and has had a good career there. He is 30 years old now and has been losing Champions League finalist twice and Champions League winner once. He has also won the Premier League once as well as several domestic cups. I think he does not have anything to prove to anybody because he did it all and he deserves to play in a different league where he could finish his career with a good wage and new challenge.
That's the new trend among players nowadays, they're selfish and just want to get everything for themselves, now is the best time to sell him because it's obvious he'll leave for free next season, but losing Mane and Salah in a single summer will ruin LiVARpool for a long time and I don't see it happening.
Yes losing Mane and Salah would have created problems for Klopp because he simply does not have a replacement for either. Mane will be sold for around £30 million and that is too high for a 30 year old but some clubs will pay it.
Salah will walk for free in to the arms of a big club that will pay him a large signing-on fee near the £5 million mark and pay him well over £250,000 a week. If you were Mane and were getting half of what Salah was getting at Liverpool you would want to leave too. I think Mane should have stayed and saw his contract out before leaving on a free transfer too. I imagine Liverpool losing Mane and Salah in the same season would be too much for the fans therefore they will cash in on Mane now and allow Salah to go for free next season. The image below is from February 2021 but the salaries are current:
Yes, it will be sad enough for Liverpool fans if Selah and Manya leave the club at the same time. Still, it can be said that they made the greatest contribution to the club's entry into the Champions League final. However, I don't think that the departure of both players will be a disaster for the club, but it may reduce the power that Klopp has in the formation of the squad. As for Salah, it is really strange that the parties cannot agree until the end of the season itself, although Salah himself seems to have curled that he is not going to leave Liverpool.
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