Cloudbet should no longer be allowed on bitcointalk- a danger to community

[Bazinga442]

Do you see the amount of scam accusations against the company?  They are doing this to many people.  Not only this, I have taken down the story and added it to https://cloudbetscams.com of Efxes.  

Certainly, only a small fraction of those they've scammed know about bitcointalk or bother reporting it. I bet there are lots more out there.  They, Cloudbet, have good reasons for hiding their location.

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[ultrloa]

Anything but reputable.  Please pay me the cashout Cloudbet.  This is going on way too long and have gone silent.

Well, perhaps you need to extend your patient, --Ronnie of Cloudbet did not online yet since yesterday, perhaps your case is quite taking so long time for them to verify that issue. As he stated in this post,

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We ensured that the player received the total sum of their deposit back and consequently consider this case to be closed.

Sorry for your loss and I hope this problem of yours will solved as soon as possible, I believe that the cloudbet will not ruin again their reputation since other DT members revived the negative feedback to neutral.

There's a word already given so I think people need to wait for that since if they will not follow on their given words then for sure this will be the end of their business since no one will trust them anymore. There are so many case happened from them before and I believe those things will reflect back again if Cloudbet management will insist to release the funds.

For sure many people are watching this case right now.

[robelneo]

The complaints are mounting and this should not be ignored anymore by the operators of Cloudbet, this thread is a good reference of the so many issues confronting Cloudbet they seems to be the Yobit version here in gambling.
Op has done his part of exposing Cloudbet I can understand his wrath imagine that huge amount I can relax the whole year with that amount
it's now up to gamblers to decide if they still prefer Cloudbet with the so many bad reports.

[akram143]

Cloudbet was one of the reputed sportbook in the past but why they changed now?

Maybe you're talking about SportsBet, eh? I can't remember times when Cloudbet was reputable. Yeah, i remember times when their sig ad was everywhere, but it doesn't have anything close to term "reputable".

Yes I remember it correctly, cloudbet was one of the most preferred sportbook when sportbet was new to the cryptocurrencies and if I remember it correctly sportbet even got lot of scam accusation by people but at the end the mistake was commited by themselves because they didn't give much attention to their ToS while playing there.

[efxes]

Hello, why was this moved to scam accusations when Cloudbet is having so many problems?  when will they be removed from the site?

Also I just sent in MORE documentation, very personal documentation, so that hoepfully they can process my withdrawal.  They have gone silent and said case is closed, this is not fair.

[kamadazje]

If you have not done anything wrong like you follow their terms and conditions but still they do this to you then this is not a good example for cloudbet if they like to maintain their reputation here. Have you message their support about it and what are their response?

Did they say the main reason behind their action why they do freeze or confiscated your $15? I am a cloudbet user for several years already and I didn't find any problem so far that is why I am a little bit hesitant right now whether I will continue to use that platform knowing that there are many accusations already.

[Lorence.xD]

Hopefully, cloudbet explain their side of things here. I believe in fair justice, with this bunch of evidences piled high in their faces, they must atleast give out a word. Let this be a lesson for other people who will try to gamble, check the reputation of the site and if they have a rap sheet in regards to running away with people's money.

[mirakal]

Hopefully, cloudbet explain their side of things here. I believe in fair justice, with this bunch of evidences piled high in their faces, they must atleast give out a word. Let this be a lesson for other people who will try to gamble, check the reputation of the site and if they have a rap sheet in regards to running away with people's money.

They were no active for 3 days now (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563).
I'm looking forward that they'll answer this accusation once they are online, and eventually solve it if it's necessary.

I saw number of scam accusation against Cloudbet in the past but they were solve, hope they'll do the same here.

[acroman08]

Hopefully, cloudbet explain their side of things here. I believe in fair justice, with this bunch of evidences piled high in their faces, they must atleast give out a word. Let this be a lesson for other people who will try to gamble, check the reputation of the site and if they have a rap sheet in regards to running away with people's money.

They were no active for 3 days now (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563).
I'm looking forward that they'll answer this accusation once they are online, and eventually solve it if it's necessary.

I saw number of scam accusation against Cloudbet in the past but they were solve, hope they'll do the same here.

they've responded to this accusation before. they said that the OP have broken some of their ToS and said that they have given back the deposit the OP made on their gambling site. but the OP said he hasn't received anything yet. Cloudbet hasn't responded yet after that.

Hi everyone, we'd like to address the case of efxes.

Our Player Safety Team performed a standard verification check on the account after noticing several failed logins from the USA.

Our authentication log reveals that the player attempted to authenticate from the USA followed by several other European cities within minutes - this clearly goes against his claim that he is living in and playing from Mexico.
 
Whilst the player complied and supplied an identity document and proof of address, he failed to submit documents that support his claims of residing in Mexico. We consequently closed the account after confirming a clear breach of our terms and licensing agreement.

We ensured that the player received the total sum of their deposit back and consequently consider this case to be closed.

[cryptofiend01]

Cloudbet was one of the reputed sportbook in the past but why they changed now?

Maybe you're talking about SportsBet, eh? I can't remember times when Cloudbet was reputable. Yeah, i remember times when their sig ad was everywhere, but it doesn't have anything close to term "reputable".

Yes I remember it correctly, cloudbet was one of the most preferred sportbook when sportbet was new to the cryptocurrencies and if I remember it correctly sportbet even got lot of scam accusation by people but at the end the mistake was commited by themselves because they didn't give much attention to their ToS while playing there.

If I'm not mistaken, Cloudbet has been around since 2013. I doubt they could've lasted this long if their biz model is to scam people. I was on Reddit the other day and I noticed all of the pinned posts on r/cloudbet are scam accusations... their competitor or at least someone is trying to mess with them...

[efxes]

Mess with them?  They just scammed the crap outta me.  Are you actually staying informed or are you someone trying to help Cloudbet not pay the money they are stealing from players.

[efxes]

If I'm not mistaken, Cloudbet has been around since 2013. I doubt they could've lasted this long if their biz model is to scam people. I was on Reddit the other day and I noticed all of the pinned posts on r/cloudbet are scam accusations... their competitor or at least someone is trying to mess with them...

BTW guys, I'm not into blatantly accusing various accounts of being shill accounts because at times it can be out of line.

However cryptofiend01 is 100% a shill account.  Their first post was commenting on betting on the US presidential odds. 

For a sportsbook, taking bets on long term events is a serious money grab.  Bets are tied up for months, and the site can then use those funds to make more profits elsewhere while waiting to pay out (if they even pay out at all)

The account has 4 posts.  first one being commenting on a presidential betting thread from cloudbet or something.  Next one a random post with zero value and zero interest, no idea why they'd post and then 3rd one this post.  last one is just "bitcoin to the moon yo".  check the history.

If I were Cloudbet, I'd constantly be hiring reputation management and shill accounts to build history over time and sway the opinion in the forums.  It's standard business practice these days.

Seriously, defending Cloudbet a site that just stole $15,000 from me.  This is only beginning if they don't return the money.  This shouldn't ever happen to anyone.

[efxes]

Take a look at this account 'ordinarybloke26'
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2849561
They were given a neutral trust by the brand new member cryptofiend above directly after registering.  It's funny because I had just called out ordinarybloke for also being a reputation management shill for Cloudbet as well.

The nerve of this sportsbook to steal from players and then try and bash them and call them people trying to smear Cloudbet or give them a bad name for no reason.

Listen, the site stole $15,000 from me and they have the nerve to use new shill accounts to boost each other's rep.  I can expect negative trust coming from their shill accounts now that I left negative on their account because it's so obvious new accounts giving other sham accounts rep is so obvious to me.  It's unbelievable.

[efxes]

can a mod please look into removing them from the forum, they are an outright scam

[efxes]

Cloudbet is continuing to phish for deposits FROM USA CUSTOMERS.  All of their recent tweets are about accepting bets on USA POLITICS.  They are looking to outright steal player money especially USA citizens.

https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314049132777009152
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314046182511968258
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314036516889403394
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314032452633989121
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314030860069347329
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314028359920177152
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314027663137284098
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314022452758933504
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314021552707387392
https://twitter.com/Cloudbet/status/1314013709149171713

These are all in the last day.  Every single post is about USA politics, yet they are stealing USA player money. 

Cloudbet is about to become exposed if they don't pay the balance of Efxes very soon.  There are multiple people very upset with Cloudbet's actions in regards to Efxes.

[Cloudbet]

Hi all,

Cloudbet has made an official statement with regards to allegations made by @efxes. This statement can be found in the Cloudbet Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.msg55334974#msg55334974

Moving forward, all updates regarding this case will be made on this thread.

Thank you for your continued support,

Team Cloudbet

[efxes]

Scamming from me, here it is.  They need to be banned from this site.



Please also see the original post in this thread and tell me if they do not have a history of stealing from player community.  There is a huge list of scam accusations against the company, and they want you to go complain all over the internet just to get paid.  They are ruining players in the community's lives.

For all I know, the 330 BTC run up, complaint, and payout could have all been fake.  In order to garner the thought in the mind of people that they pay out large sums

[efxes]

It's because they have been getting away with this so long.  The guy who made the video is a genius and a warrior for the bitcoin wagering community.  The fact that he made this video 4 months ago and people still are depositing to this site is telling. Bitcointalk needs to take action against Cloudbet if they continue to not pay out Efxes and other people they are scamming that is coming to light.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwrfQSJVJXU

He made this video 4 months ago warning people about Cloudbet!  But clearly more will need to be done to fight them stealing from the bitcoin community.

And then he made this video:

Cloudbet Scams Customer For $15,000 Cloudbet Scam Exposed Cloudbet Review DO NOT PLAY AT CLOUDBET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sqZqdsVNEU

[efialtis]

@OP I am sorry for what's been going on - I have removed them and also posted in their ANN thread. https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/cloudbet-removed-on-btcgosu-due-to-open-scam-accusation/

[efxes]

@OP I am sorry for what's been going on - I have removed them and also posted in their ANN thread. https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/cloudbet-removed-on-btcgosu-due-to-open-scam-accusation/

Good man.  They are using bitcoin community as their own personal ATM, only deposits no withdrawals if you are making money.