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October 07, 2020, 08:42:54 PM
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The third world countries such us kyrksitan is that the currencies has no value.
So You Can't Even Exchange them to other currencies... What They do about it?

Its Not spoken problem much but its a problem
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October 07, 2020, 08:59:34 PM
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I don’t know this country and as per my research on google its on the central part of Asia. You can’t do anything about it especially if your own government are not working well to improve the economy. Let’s look at Venezuela, they are still experiencing a hyper inflation and as far as I know, the value of their money became useless and that is the result of a poor service of the government. Digital currencies can be the best option for them, they just need to adopt now.
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October 07, 2020, 08:59:49 PM
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The third world countries such us kyrksitan is that the currencies has no value.
What's that country?

Do you mean to say Kyrgyzstan? Not all third world countries sees bitcoin as no value asset. You are thinking too much and ending up with that conclusion.

So You Can't Even Exchange them to other currencies... What They do about it?

Its Not spoken problem much but its a problem
Are you expecting that most countries will be into cryptos that easy? give them some time.

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October 07, 2020, 09:08:11 PM
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What are you currently using to trade if the currency doesn't have an international rate, can you still use it?

How much is food for example on average per person per month (or how much is a kilo of sugar, flour, potatoes (or equivelant)... Etc?

What's the priblem with not being able to convert? Does no one sell usd for it?
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October 07, 2020, 09:08:33 PM
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If these countries can’t keep their economies together, it’s likely that they’ll just ditch the old currency and begin anew, just like what happened in Venezuela, Zimbabwe and the likes for a few times now within a short span of time. Usually, people living in countries stricken by hyperinflation rely on USD for internal purchases, and to also keep their actual treasures on a hedge against the mad condition of their economies.

I see no hope for countries that is riddled by hyperinflation AND corrupt government officials with no definite plan to fix the economy. It’ll just repeat and repeat until it cannot be saved any further.

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October 07, 2020, 11:41:24 PM
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What are you currently using to trade if the currency doesn't have an international rate, can you still use it?

How much is food for example on average per person per month (or how much is a kilo of sugar, flour, potatoes (or equivelant)... Etc?

What's the priblem with not being able to convert? Does no one sell usd for it?

I'm curious about that also. Because it is hard to believe that they have no money exchange shops in their area.
Even their local fiat to USD? I don't think we are getting what the OP is saying here.
Because is it possible for a specific country, even if it is third world, that they can't exchange their fiat to other currencies?

So I search a bit, and found out that it is actually easy to exchange in that country especially euro and USD.
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October 07, 2020, 11:53:31 PM
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The third world countries such us kyrksitan is that the currencies has no value.
So You Can't Even Exchange them to other currencies... What They do about it?

Its Not spoken problem much but its a problem

Fiat needs to be backed by gold reserve so that it will be honor Internationally. This is the problem of the third world that don't have gold reserves and ruled by a greedy dictator. There is only few case about this issue but we can't do about this issue otherwise a user in this forum will run as president to change the way they manage there economy currency.

In my opinion, the paper money has a value locally so there's no problem on it since a person in third world country don't care about international fiat like USD because they will not use it in there own personal use.

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October 08, 2020, 12:39:53 AM
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What are you currently using to trade if the currency doesn't have an international rate, can you still use it?

How much is food for example on average per person per month (or how much is a kilo of sugar, flour, potatoes (or equivelant)... Etc?

What's the priblem with not being able to convert? Does no one sell usd for it?


But who will want worthless currencies? 
Actually nobody!
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October 08, 2020, 12:47:13 AM
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Also I did warned Everybody here I opened thread
That we would have this Kind of problems around the World


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275787.msg55195194#msg55195194
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October 08, 2020, 01:17:06 AM
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But who will want worthless currencies? 
Actually nobody!

Thinking about it, this is the fault of your goverent...

UK banks offer to exchange anything the central bank will accept and return sterling for (fiat wise -excluding gold and silver as you'd have to go direct to the cb).  Why don't you have something like that there? And if you don't, why don't you get people to petition the government for it (even companies would probably go for that).
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October 08, 2020, 03:57:12 AM
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Each country's approach to the use of currency is different there is no problem here that the countries of the world use currency in both ways if banks keep  there is a danger of creating a crisis of various currencies including dollar and pound in the market. That is why the limit is set banks hold the most currency in us dollars apart from this banks also keep some currencies in euro japanese yen and british Pound due to which there will be alternative methods even if the value of money decreases.
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October 08, 2020, 02:00:52 PM
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Each country's approach to the use of currency is different there is no problem here that the countries of the world use currency in both ways if banks keep  there is a danger of creating a crisis of various currencies including dollar and pound in the market. That is why the limit is set banks hold the most currency in us dollars apart from this banks also keep some currencies in euro japanese yen and british Pound due to which there will be alternative methods even if the value of money decreases.

The world is made to have a great dependence on the dollar. Because the dollar is the international currency with the largest penetration of use in cross-border trade. As long as the two countries agree to use the local currency for export-import transactions and balance trade between the two countries, everything will run on its axis. It's just that if there is a trade balance deficit, and payments are made using a local currency which is not multicurrency, then disaster will come unless there are other countries that are willing to be paid using the local currency.

We take the example of Bank Indonesia and the Central Bank of China (PBOC) to cooperate in the payment of bilateral trade transactions and direct investment (local currency settlement) using the local currencies of the two countries, namely the yuan and the rupiah. The condition of Indonesia's trade deficit against China means that Indonesia imports more from China than exports so that Indonesia needs more Yuan, the value of the rupiah weakens compared to the Yuan. On the other hand, if Indonesia's trade balance is a surplus, Indonesia will be flooded with Yuan and have difficulty releasing Yuan because many countries do not want to be paid using Yuan, in contrast to transactions using dollars, dollars are easily spent because they add to the country's foreign exchange reserves. Currently the dollar is the real king of cash.

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October 08, 2020, 02:23:27 PM
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Its their country issue. The government and authorities will know what to do to solve the problem and boost the economy. You cant make any change with a thread on bitcointalk like this. The world we are living in full of people who are living on the poverty line even though the news claims that everything is normal

We cant expect the world to change immediately in a short time. It must take at least 2 or even 3 decades for people to accept cryptocurrency as a type of payment. Moreover, right now, people are still lack of resources which are necessary for interacting with the internet


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October 08, 2020, 02:30:57 PM
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I don’t know this country and as per my research on google its on the central part of Asia. You can’t do anything about it especially if your own government are not working well to improve the economy. Let’s look at Venezuela, they are still experiencing a hyper inflation and as far as I know, the value of their money became useless and that is the result of a poor service of the government. Digital currencies can be the best option for them, they just need to adopt now.
They will only need to know how to use it properly, when the government didn't mind them that much then they should be the one to find ways how to make it works for them, yes it is hard especially no establishments they can use it but they will sure be able to use it in other ways like thru investing or thru trading that may help them. Venezuela is trying and other countries may also try till they find a better solution and it will be better if have a government that can support them.

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October 08, 2020, 03:21:18 PM
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The third world countries such us kyrksitan is that the currencies has no value.
So You Can't Even Exchange them to other currencies... What They do about it?
I searched kyrksitan on google and found nothing except this thread.
Can you make it clear what country you are referring to
I've read your previous posts and it seems you always had some early conclusion for the economy. What are you?

Basically, you can't sell any cryptocurrency if there is no exchange available to your country.
You can use VPN if you want to buy and sell tho.

The third world countries such us kyrksitan is that the currencies has no value.

What's that country?

Do you mean to say Kyrgyzstan? .
I don't think he is referring to Kyrgyzstan since this country allows exchanges of bitcoins as far as I know.

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October 08, 2020, 03:23:57 PM
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I don’t know this country and as per my research on google its on the central part of Asia. You can’t do anything about it especially if your own government are not working well to improve the economy. Let’s look at Venezuela, they are still experiencing a hyper inflation and as far as I know, the value of their money became useless and that is the result of a poor service of the government. Digital currencies can be the best option for them, they just need to adopt now.
A little foreign, the name of the country in my ear, if a country experiences inflation on finance, then this is bad governance in developing the economy so that their money is not advanced, meaning that they cannot be exchanged to other countries because of the bad economy but it is useless to use digital money too if local money is not worthwhile.  they move to enjoy the digital money.

Venezuela is also the same as they want to rise from this downturn. Can the government in the near future be able to revitalize the economy?  this butub took a long time too.

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October 08, 2020, 03:43:44 PM
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So You Can't Even Exchange them to other currencies... What They do about it?


This is a hard situation for a country and the citizen. This means the poverty level there will be very very high and GDP will be low because production will be far from the people. The people there will have a bad time to life there. I think if the government is not corrupt, they can't apply for loan from the international groups they belong to start developing the country by investing in the sectors of the economy.
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So You Can't Even Exchange them to other currencies... What They do about it?


This is a hard situation for a country and the citizen. This means the poverty level there will be very very high and GDP will be low because production will be far from the people. The people there will have a bad time to life there. I think if the government is not corrupt, they can't apply for loan from the international groups they belong to start developing the country by investing in the sectors of the economy.



Lol Cheesy with what You invest?  If the currency is all most worthless?  
They need to Exchange currency to Foreign currency but who would take that?  

Solution for them  sell cheap Land Property goods from their Country to Foreign investors to get usa or eur forget about  their own currency not sure If anyone want that currency maybe ill buy from them with extra cheap price about  5 usd  for  5 pallets of stacked their currency


For them best Solution is to give their land resources or Property to get USA dollars or eur currency Smiley   That's only option I see here
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October 08, 2020, 04:00:03 PM
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I don't think he is referring to Kyrgyzstan since this country allows exchanges of bitcoins as far as I know.

After searching which country I can't either figure which one he is telling us but the closest is the Kyrgyzstan.

If the country can't arrange to peg thier currency to USD then they could just use the BTC like Venezuela for a meantime. I think its easy for a country to just fall to BTC. They could plan to develop their own digital currency after. I think countries like this one are the best country to advance their road to the development to cashless society.


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October 08, 2020, 04:05:26 PM
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I don't think he is referring to Kyrgyzstan since this country allows exchanges of bitcoins as far as I know.

After searching which country I can't either figure which one he is telling us but the closest is the Kyrgyzstan.

If the country can't arrange to peg thier currency to USD then they could just use the BTC like Venezuela for a meantime. I think its easy for a country to just fall to BTC. They could plan to develop their own digital currency after. I think countries like this one are the best country to advance their road to the development to cashless society.



You see here link

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/kyrgyzstan-bitcoin-payments-violate-state-law%3famp=1
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