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[Charlene777]

Not only cryptocurrency cards are affected with the relatively low limits, but the regular ones issued by banks as well (albeit withdrawal limits are higher). For example, card issued by my bank has 5000 kuna daily withdrawal limit (approximately 660 euro) so its a little bit more than a double of Binance card. Big advantage of Binance card is that daily spending limit is 8700 euro which should be enough for 99.99% users.

Its all probably about governments not liking the thought of us withdrawing money without them knowing on what exactly we are spending it.

These are very good limits. I do not use bank cards at all and do not have bank accounts, I use only alternative solutions. The best solution that I found in my country is a card of one payment service, which allows you to withdraw no more than 1,780 euros per day, and no more than 10,700 euros per month. It is a pity that the Binance card is not available for me, so I have to use only such solutions. I used Advcash until 2018, it was probably the most convenient card for both shopping and travel, but it was also limited for my country. Residents of the European Union, of course, have a wide variety in the choice of crypto cards, this is a definite plus for them, there is plenty to choose from.

I live in Paraguay. I can't find any working card?
I went through the list and almost none are available outside EU, US, UK, and a couple of other countries. Paycent seems to be available but search results indicate it's a scam.

Which cards can you recommend?

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[OmegaStarScream]

I live in Paraguay. I can't find any working card?
I went through the list and almost none are available outside EU, US, UK, and a couple of other countries. Paycent seems to be available but search results indicate it's a scam.

Which cards can you recommend?

Advcash launched a couple of cards (Crypto world, and Global UnionPay) and then stopped shipping the cards. The last time I checked, they said they'll be available again soon. Maybe you can check their site or reach out to them for an ETA.

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@Ratimov can you add CoinPayCard.net to the list? They have a working virtual debt card, and get also have an ANN thread for more details: ✅💳Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE - CoinPayCard.net 💳✅

Note - I am not affiliated with this project.

I would not add them to any list, nor a free promotion, because they are closer to a scam than a trustworthy service. Check reference on his trust page, they are certainly not a recommendation as a reliable service. here we are talking about financial services, not about downloading e-books.
self-moderator ann thread, and avoiding giving precise answers is not the expected way. in the end, they hide all the information about themselves, which further deepens the mistrust.

[CoinPayCard.net]

@Ratimov can you add CoinPayCard.net to the list? They have a working virtual debt card, and get also have an ANN thread for more details: ✅💳Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE - CoinPayCard.net 💳✅

Note - I am not affiliated with this project.

I would not add them to any list, nor a free promotion, because they are closer to a scam than a trustworthy service. Check reference on his trust page, they are certainly not a recommendation as a reliable service. here we are talking about financial services, not about downloading e-books.
self-moderator ann thread, and avoiding giving precise answers is not the expected way. in the end, they hide all the information about themselves, which further deepens the mistrust.

We literally answered every question that other BitcoinTalker's had. They were questioning how we block blacklisted wallets. We answered that question multiple times in details. But I guess they weren't satisfied.
There is no other answer we can give than how do work. If you read carefully, you can see that we answered literally every question that we're asked. But hey, it's a free forum. You can have your options, only time will tell who is trustworthy and not. We did our best, so far we keep building every day and adding new features. Maybe one day you will try us out.

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We literally answered every question that other BitcoinTalker's had. They were questioning how we block blacklisted wallets. We answered that question multiple times in details. But I guess they weren't satisfied.

not that you literally did not answer my question, but you actually deleted my post in your self-moderated thread.

There is no other answer we can give than how do work. If you read carefully, you can see that we answered literally every question that we're asked. But hey, it's a free forum. You can have your options, only time will tell who is trustworthy and not.

when we find out about your trustworthiness, it will already be too late for some users. building trust is done by giving all the precise answers here, you decided on another, more dubious way.

Maybe one day you will try us out.

you can't even be considered, as long as you hide vital information.

[CoinPayCard.net]

not that you literally did not answer my question, but you actually deleted my post in your self-moderated thread.
you can't even be considered, as long as you hide vital information.

Your question is answered a number of times. Your options are not based on facts.

when we find out about your trustworthiness, it will already be too late for some users. building trust is done by giving all the precise answers here, you decided on another, more dubious way.

You are free to think what you want. I would like to hear from you, what questions we did not answer.

you can't even be considered, as long as you hide vital information.

Again, we don't hide anything, we just don't have our corporate information online. That's it. Even if we had that online, it won't make a difference. Our service is based on 2 way trust.

[HostFat]

https://fcfpay.com/prepaid-crypto-debit-cards/

No KYC
From $50 to $5000
Fee: nearly 4.1% at the creation
It is reloadable.
I thould be able to be added to google wallet / apple pay with a US/CA number. (even with in europe ...)

I tried with "amazon.it" and it works, so it is usable in europe.

I didn't try the google wallet / apple pay thing, is there a good place to take a temporary us/ca number somewhere?

[Charlene777]

I live in Paraguay. I can't find any working card?
I went through the list and almost none are available outside EU, US, UK, and a couple of other countries. Paycent seems to be available but search results indicate it's a scam.

Which cards can you recommend?

Advcash launched a couple of cards (Crypto world, and Global UnionPay) and then stopped shipping the cards. The last time I checked, they said they'll be available again soon. Maybe you can check their site or reach out to them for an ETA.

Thank you. I have a card from them and it was working perfectly. However, they no longer allow funding to the USD card. They say they are fixing it but it's been a couple months.
EUR card is still working but I cannot order one cause I am not a resident nor citizen of one of their countries.

Do you know if spectrocoin or wagecan are trustworthy?

[dkbit98]

https://fcfpay.com/prepaid-crypto-debit-cards/

How did you find about this service and are you affiliated with them in any way?
If I understand correctly this can only be used as virtual debit cards, but I see there is Card Billing Information with physical delivery address.
I would like to see someone from FCF Pay team registering in bitcointalk forum and answering few questions, but on first sight it does look better than similar shady projects that appeared recently.

[CoinPayCard.net]

Let's do a shameless promo here  :

CoinPayCard.net[/b]]CoinPayCard.net

The CoinPayCard is an anonymous Virtual Visa® Debit Card that can be used to make online and offline purchases, worldwide.

Available card plans:

1. Basic       | $2.000 monthly spend limit     Price: $99 yearly
2. Premium  | $5.000 monthly spend limit     Price: $249 yearly
3. Platinum  | $10.000 monthly spend limit   Price: $499 yearly

Card funding fees:
USDT: 4% + $1.50

More cryptocurrencies coming this week.

[NotATether]

https://fcfpay.com/prepaid-crypto-debit-cards/

How did you find about this service and are you affiliated with them in any way?
If I understand correctly this can only be used as virtual debit cards, but I see there is Card Billing Information with physical delivery address.
I would like to see someone from FCF Pay team registering in bitcointalk forum and answering few questions, but on first sight it does look better than similar shady projects that appeared recently.

Allow me to add that to my gauntlet as well.

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Side note: how many of the cards on the list work with cloud compute corps? Maybe they indiscriminately classify the entire industry of crypto debit cards as VCCs and just block them all.

[HostFat]

@dkbit98
I'm not affiliated, someone suggested it on my blog.
I tried it with a small amount of money, and it worked non "amazon.it", the italian market of amazon.
I didn't try the google pay / apple pay thing.

[Charlene777]

Let's do a shameless promo here  :

CoinPayCard.net[/b]]CoinPayCard.net

The CoinPayCard is an anonymous Virtual Visa® Debit Card that can be used to make online and offline purchases, worldwide.

Available card plans:

1. Basic       | $2.000 monthly spend limit     Price: $99 yearly
2. Premium  | $5.000 monthly spend limit     Price: $249 yearly
3. Platinum  | $10.000 monthly spend limit   Price: $499 yearly

Card funding fees:
USDT: 4% + $1.50

More cryptocurrencies coming this week.

500 per year is so expensive!
What is the currency exchange fee if you make purchase in currency other than USD?

[CoinPayCard.net]

Let's do a shameless promo here  :

CoinPayCard.net[/b]]CoinPayCard.net

The CoinPayCard is an anonymous Virtual Visa® Debit Card that can be used to make online and offline purchases, worldwide.

Available card plans:

1. Basic       | $2.000 monthly spend limit     Price: $99 yearly
2. Premium  | $5.000 monthly spend limit     Price: $249 yearly
3. Platinum  | $10.000 monthly spend limit   Price: $499 yearly

Card funding fees:
USDT: 4% + $1.50

More cryptocurrencies coming this week.

500 per year is so expensive!
What is the currency exchange fee if you make purchase in currency other than USD?

The platinum card has a spending limit of $10K a month. You can always start with the basic plan @ $99 a year. (Keep in mind, you can't upgrade a card)
Paying in other currencies than USD is free, but keep in mind VISA decides the exchange rate.

Visa Exchange Rate can be found here:
https://usa.visa.com/support/consumer/travel-support/exchange-rate-calculator.html

[OmegaStarScream]

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Do you know if spectrocoin or wagecan are trustworthy?

I couldn't tell you much about Wagecan but for Spectrocoin, using them may not be a good idea: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=816438

And I could be wrong but I don't think the cards are available worldwide. I believe it's just some of their other services (exchange, custodial wallet, etc.)

[FCFAdrian]

Hello!
I'm from the FCF Pay team!

Our fees are 6 USD + 3.5% to issue the cards. The payment is made through our own payment gateway and can be done in ~20 stablecoins + SHIB.
To refill the cards, the fees are 3 USD + 3.5%.
Monthly fee is 1.75 USD taken from the card at the end of the month. If the card falls below 1.75 USD balance at that time, it will be deactivated.

But if you create or refill the cards from your FCF Pay balance, you will get a discount (at the moment it's 0.75%, but we may increase it to 1%).

The cards are virtual USD cards, similar to prepaid gift cards, but they are tokenizable (they can be added to Apple/Google/Samsung Pay) by using a US/Canada number. Unfortunately, it seems that delivery to online SMS services fails recently. I suggest that you ask a friend in USA/Canada to help you by relaying the SMS validation code. It may take 10-15 minutes to receive the SMS.

We can also offer physical cards companies/projects. For individuals we will start offering the physical cards in about 2 weeks.

We do have affiliate programs: the easiest way is to create an account on fcfpay.com, share your affiliate link or create your own prepaid card widget/page to share and add a mark-up.
For companies/projects that want to start their issuing program, we offer white label solutions.

If I can help you with more information, tag me or drop by our Telegram chat.

Have a great day!

[HostFat]

I confirm that the FCP pay card works on google pay europe (so maybe even apple pay) by using this virtual phon provider
https://sms4sats.com/

[dkbit98]

Our fees are 6 USD + 3.5% to issue the cards. The payment is made through our own payment gateway and can be done in ~20 stablecoins + SHIB.
To refill the cards, the fees are 3 USD + 3.5%.
Monthly fee is 1.75 USD taken from the card at the end of the month. If the card falls below 1.75 USD balance at that time, it will be deactivated.

Do you support Bitcoin or only stable coins?
Fees are not bad, maybe I would remove monthly fees, but I see now how some recent shady competition is basically stealing money from people.

I'm from the FCF Pay team!

It would help if you could create separate topic in forum for your FCF cards.

The cards are virtual USD cards, similar to prepaid gift cards, but they are tokenizable (they can be added to Apple/Google/Samsung Pay) by using a US/Canada number. Unfortunately, it seems that delivery to online SMS services fails recently. I suggest that you ask a friend in USA/Canada to help you by relaying the SMS validation code. It may take 10-15 minutes to receive the SMS.

Why do I need to enter my physical address with city for virtual cards?
I understand why you need phone numbers for SMS verification, but I would consider adding some alternative way of confirmation.

One more question, what exactly are this fees that shows up during card creation?

We can also offer physical cards companies/projects. For individuals we will start offering the physical cards in about 2 weeks.

I am interested for this cards.
I can't find information about your telegram chat, and it's better if you write in forum when you release physical cards, with more information how to order them.

[FCFAdrian]

Great questions!

Sorry, I'm a newb at this forum so I don't know how to do quotes, so I'll just copy-paste and reply

Do you support Bitcoin or only stable coins?

- At the moment only stable coins

Fees are not bad, maybe I would remove monthly fees, but I see now how some recent shady competition is basically stealing money from people.

- Unfortunately we can't remove the monthly fees unless we increase the issuing fee. Monthly fees are taken by the issuing bank to host the card accounts.

It would help if you could create separate topic in forum for your FCF cards.

- Awesome! will look into it and create a topic

Why do I need to enter my physical address with city for virtual cards?

- It's required by the issuing bank, but you can write anything.

One more question, what exactly are this fees that shows up during card creation?

- Including fees or not in the amount that you select on the slider. For example, you can select in the slider 100 USD, not including fees and it will calculate how much you need to deposit to get 100 USD on the card. If you choose the including fees option, then you pay 100 USD and the system calculates how much you will receive on the card.

I am interested for this cards.

- Are you interested to get 1 card for yourself or more cards for your company/project?

I can't find information about your telegram chat, and it's better if you write in forum when you release physical cards, with more information how to order them.

Our community is mostly on Telegram. I found this forum by recommendation of HostFat (he bought some cards yesterday, tried to activate them, banged his head on a wall... I banged my head on a wall... We found that the issuing bank changed the APIs regarding the phone number format and didn't update the documentation, we fixed the problem... He was then able to activate cards today! Everyone is happy!)
Will try to be more active here and give out updates. We will have an updates session on YouTube this Sunday.

If it's OK, I could post the link to it and to Telegram.

[CoinPayCard.net]

Side note: how many of the cards on the list work with cloud compute corps? Maybe they indiscriminately classify the entire industry of crypto debit cards as VCCs and just block them all.

With our card, they don't know if it's a crypto card. I don't think that there is a code for that yet. I believe the main issue is that they see the card as "prepaid" this would soon be fixed. And you would then be able to use your card on these platforms.