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Title: ㅤ Post by: Symmetrick on October 09, 2020, 01:16:37 PM .
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: gentlemand on October 09, 2020, 04:38:07 PM Handy list but Revolut isn't a crypto card. You can't deposit or withdraw real crypto, all you can do is buy price exposure through their app. The purpose of these cards is to exchange and spend. That does not.
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on October 09, 2020, 04:50:16 PM If I'm not mistaken, the only card available worldwide is Paycent.
- Coinsbank cards are not available anymore (I believe it's been a while): https://coinsbank.com/cards - TenX is only offering cards to Singaporeans (for now): https://support.tenx.tech/hc/en-us/articles/360048278332-What-are-the-currently-supported-countries- - Coinbase card is only available in EU and UK (https://help.coinbase.com/en/coinbase/trading-and-funding/other/coinbase-card-faq). The link you posted is meant to be for the exchange platform and not the card. - Wirexapp supports EU, UK and a couple of countries from the APAC region. See here: https://wirexapp.com/help/article/the-list-of-supported-countries-0027 ... A couple of cards you can add: - Spendl: It's a virtual card that can be loaded with LN. AFAIK, it's available everywhere except for the U.S. - Swipe: It's backed by Binance (Not to be confused with binance card). EU and UK. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: notblox1 on October 09, 2020, 09:00:02 PM Great work Ratimov, I am bookmarking this topic!
It is true that privacy is reduced using crypto debit cards, but we are still living in a world and people need to buy and pay things. I would suggest keeping only small amounts of coins in cards. Maybe adding countries that are not supported would be good. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: gentlemand on October 09, 2020, 09:17:16 PM Maybe adding countries that are not supported would be good. Yes. That one's an important one. Unlike the old Wavecrest cards, where they clearly didn't give a shit and proved it too, most of these have extremely limited availability outside the usual places. Probably the most important bit of info. It'll save many a hope being dashed. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on October 09, 2020, 11:38:58 PM Quote Bitcoin Black Card INFO: Card Type - MASTERCARD Production Cost - 0.06 BTC Supported Coins - BTC Supported Countries - Worldwide (not US) Service fee - $0 (mothly) Fees - $0 ATM Withdraw - $0 Wallet Availability - YES OP I think this Bitcoin Black Card should be removed from the list. There is no information about that card and website is directing to some altcoin called BitcoinBlack that has no connection with real Bitcoin BTC. I am not sure if this is a scam, but it sure looks like that on first look. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on October 10, 2020, 07:38:43 AM This is not necessary, just like listing which cryptocurrencies do not support these cards. The list will turn out to be ultra-large. Many services contain information with the list of countries, if there is no country there, it means it is not supported, and there is no point in listing it. Not necessarily because the ban is usually based on regions and not specific countries. You could just write OFAC (https://www.wm.edu/offices/techtransfer/ExportControls/Regulations/OFAC/index.php#:~:text=Currently%2C%20sanctioned%20countries%20include%20the,Sudan%2C%20Syria%2C%20and%20Zimbabwe.), MENA (https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/middle-east/north-africa#:~:text=MENA%20countries%20consist%20of%20Algeria,United%20Arab%20Emirates%20and%20Yemen.), EEA (https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea#:~:text=Austria%2C%20Belgium%2C%20Bulgaria%2C%20Croatia,%2C%20Slovenia%2C%20Spain%20and%20Sweden.), etc. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 10, 2020, 08:14:28 AM Great work Ratimov, I am bookmarking this topic! It is true that privacy is reduced using crypto debit cards, but we are still living in a world and people need to buy and pay things. I would suggest keeping only small amounts of coins in cards. Maybe adding countries that are not supported would be good. If there is no time to search, I can suggest using this link. There is complete information about the countries where this or that card is supported. https://www.publish0x.com/crypto-thoughts-in-a-crypto-world/crypto-debit-cards-an-overview-and-comparison-of-existing-op-xxonqow I can also say that if someone is worried about the issue of anonymity, then there are offshore cards, for example, AdvCash. Working with them, the cardholder is not threatened that the bank will be able to demand the sources of money and suspend operations with the card. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Dragonfund on October 10, 2020, 11:18:11 AM ........ Bro, I want to really know if you are staff on bitcointalk, how you keep writing original content on this forum back to back surprise and motivate me at this same time. It's really inspiring, believe me. Thumbs up Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Lucius on October 10, 2020, 12:06:40 PM Very useful information for those who are interested in cards, and many see this as the easiest way to spend their crypto. Although I haven't checked every service, I think it would be useful to add information on whether all of these services require a KYC card before issuing the card.
I assume that is the case, so it would be good to warn all those who use their crypto in this way to be aware that even if they use a card issued in another country, it does not mean that their tax office cannot get their data and ask them to explain the origin of crypto and to pay taxes. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: gentlemand on October 10, 2020, 09:02:09 PM I assume that is the case, so it would be good to warn all those who use their crypto in this way to be aware that even if they use a card issued in another country, it does not mean that their tax office cannot get their data and ask them to explain the origin of crypto and to pay taxes. Just as important is to emphasise how flaky many of these card services have been in the past. Most are at the mercy of other service providers who may pull the cards without any notice. You have to treat these as the hottest of hot wallets. Load and spend. Do not linger, don't leave anything on them and don't run anything important in your life through them. I remember when the first Bitpay card shut down, along with all the other ones provided by the same company. There was literally no notice. There were people tweeting Bitpay who had thousands of dollars on the card and they were halfway across the world and that was their only spending option. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: condoras on October 11, 2020, 09:34:48 AM Very good thread and IMO it was something that was missing from the forum. Well done Ratimov, bookmarked and watching! 8)
Still, I notice that you have in the Temporary Unavailable cards some which aren't unavailable, like Binance or Swipe. Also, 3 cards in this list doesnt have the full info details like all the others. Bitplastic, Coinzoom and Swipe. Maybe a good addition will be which one of them is requiring KYC/AML verification (like Lucius said earlier), since some of them aren't so clear about their proccedures. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Lucius on October 11, 2020, 10:18:56 AM Just as important is to emphasise how flaky many of these card services have been in the past. Most are at the mercy of other service providers who may pull the cards without any notice. Just as any crypto exchange can close overnight and disappear with user funds, so can any service that offers something like this. Although I personally don't need a card like this because I have the option to sell crypto on my local exchange and withdraw fiat to a bank card, or to sell it directly at a physical crypto exchange - this may be the only way for some to sell their crypto, so they have to accept any risk that comes with it. Maybe a good addition will be which one of them is requiring KYC/AML verification (like Lucius said earlier), since some of them aren't so clear about their proccedures. I highly doubt that any of the presented card is without KYC, and if by any chance this is not initially required, any major conversion of crypto to fiat will certainly activate that requirement - because otherwise it would be a very obvious way to launder money and avoid paying taxes. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: condoras on October 11, 2020, 11:42:00 AM I highly doubt that any of the presented card is without KYC, and if by any chance this is not initially required, any major conversion of crypto to fiat will certainly activate that requirement - because otherwise it would be a very obvious way to launder money and avoid paying taxes. I dought it as well but it's a fact that some card providers don't need full KYC verification since they backed clients funds from their own budget/ pocket/ corporate fund. That's why the have specific limits that follow KYC verification level eg. you can't be an unverified user and send or spend more than $2k. Launder money and avoid taxation is different things, even if sometimes are connected since it can't be done differently. IMO the basic and simpler ways to launder money, it's obvious and pretty known already. Same for avoiding taxes, despite that every country has some differences from another. Minimize taxation even "avoiding" it (meaning 0 tax fees) though can be done legally and without using laundry technics. There are the so-called "tax havens" and depending on the budget that someone wants to "spend"/ invest for making it, it can go to 0 tax fees. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on October 11, 2020, 02:02:18 PM Nice list.
In the past there was similar topics, for example (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1242788.0), which aren't maintained anymore. Some services are risky that's why I suggest to add the bitcointalk link to each one so members can check if there is scam accusations against it or not. I also recommend to specify whether the cards are plastic / virtual to make the list more complete ;) Edit: After checking few of these services Spectrocoin has a flag and uquid seems dead. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on October 11, 2020, 06:42:40 PM Problem with most of debit cards that can be used for crypto is that they can suspend your account whenever they want and freeze your coins if they consider any crypto transaction is suspicious.
If you read terms before signing up for one of this cards you will find more information about this and see they can close your account whenever they want. Please beware of this before signing for any card. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on October 11, 2020, 07:02:40 PM Just like any centralized exchange, just like any centralized stablecoin. With this approach, you should give up half of the entire cryptogo industry, because they can freeze your account at any time. My point was to warn people to read what they sign like I did, and use this cards only for small amount of coins for spending and shopping and don't keep all of them on this card or in exchanges.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on October 11, 2020, 07:20:49 PM Very nice job! I was hoping for an alive and (closer to) up-to-date thread about cards. Hats off for the effort, OP.
There are things to fix here and there, they'll always be, I guess. From what I know Binance cards work only as virtual cards now, they are not printed yet (btw, a mention about virtual cards is important, some look only for such services), TenX are very slow - although they say they are available in Europe many of EU people waiting their cards have still received nothing... However, it is a list people can start with their research for what card is best for them. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: notblox1 on October 11, 2020, 10:04:19 PM This is not necessary, just like listing which cryptocurrencies do not support these cards. The list will turn out to be ultra-large. Many services contain information with the list of countries, if there is no country there, it means it is not supported, and there is no point in listing it. This is true, but you can add link for every card directing to list of not supported countries for every card website.Reason for this is that I tried t test and register some cards you listed here with worldwide support, just to find out only one or two countries are supported. I think you can agree that Worldwide is not one or two countries :) Blockcard for example is only supported in US atm, and for some of the other cards it is similar situation, and for some cards are not even available yet. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: xenon131 on October 12, 2020, 07:57:48 AM Wow, cream-dream deluxe list of crypto cards. If anyone use VISA card issued either Binance or Crypterium, please, share your feedback, it's a toss-up between them but Crypteium's card looks a bit more practical as it offer the better list of crypto for topping up .
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on October 12, 2020, 09:27:34 AM I still recommend everyone to check the bitcointalk topics of each service and the trust of the promoters in addition to the presence of an active flag to avoid being scammed rather than limiting your search in the reviews since sometimes it is a paid one...
For example: advcash https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011381.0 (clean) Spectrocoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577176.0 (active flag + 4 negative default trust) ... Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: welovedcrypto on October 13, 2020, 06:01:07 PM I still recommend everyone to check the bitcointalk topics of each service and the trust of the promoters in addition to the presence of an active flag to avoid being scammed rather than limiting your search in the reviews since sometimes it is a paid one... I also has same issue . For example: advcash https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011381.0 (clean) Spectrocoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577176.0 (active flag + 4 negative default trust) ... I did applied (past) for advcash card but they blocked my account first when I contacted them they said some suspicious activity happens in my account. After giving me my account back they blocked my account after few weeks again and this time I didn't contacted them. They just ask you to contact that or that person. Paycent also has some problem with their card payment. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Husna QA on October 22, 2020, 03:13:27 AM I slightly added the list of Crypto Debit Cards.
Crypto Debit Card from the Fold that collaborates with Visa: Fold Visa Card. https://support.foldapp.com/hc/en-us/sections/360010926251-Fold-Visa-Card The Fold Card is a debit card that gives bitcoin prizes to its users. Of course, this card allows its users to top up their balance using bitcoin. Reference: https://foldapp.com/card/ -snip- Another complaint about using the Paycent Card:Paycent also has some problem with their card payment. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2173711.1720 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: malevolent on October 22, 2020, 07:56:38 AM I can also say that if someone is worried about the issue of anonymity, then there are offshore cards, for example, AdvCash. Working with them, the cardholder is not threatened that the bank will be able to demand the sources of money and suspend operations with the card. https://advcash.gi/en/aml/ Quote 5.10. The Company shall continuously conduct due diligence procedures pertaining to its Customers and scrutinize transactions carried out by them to ensure these transactions’ compatibility with the Company’s knowledge of its Customers, their business and, when necessary, their source of funds. No surprises here, that's one of the reasons why they ask for KYC to access most of their services, and have low transaction limits for unverified users. Just as important is to emphasise how flaky many of these card services have been in the past. Most are at the mercy of other service providers who may pull the cards without any notice. Good point. OP could add info how long a specific service has been around. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: ActAshton on October 28, 2020, 10:36:23 AM In this list, I have collected the most famous crypto debit cards that support bitcoin and altcoins. The list contains basic information and is not a complete overview. For complete information, go to the sites of the maps presented. The cards on the list are not advertising or financial advice. The list was created strictly for informational purposes. Do your own investigation before using any service. - Advcash review (https://www.cryptowisser.com/card/advcash/), -Advcash review2 (https://coinrevolution.com/advcash/) - Bitwala Card review (http://www.bestbitcoincard.com/en/bitwala-com/) - Wirex Card review (https://quickpenguin.net/wirex-review/) - Cryptopay review (https://coinsutra.com/cryptopay-review/) - Coinbase Card review (https://quickpenguin.net/coinbase-card-review/) - TRASTRA review (https://baxity.com/trastra-cryptocard-review) - Spectrocoin Card review (https://cryptorival.com/cards/spectrocoin/) - Blockcard review (https://cryptocurrencycard.org/blockcard-the-best-crypto-card/) - Eidoo Card review (https://en.cryptonomist.ch/blog/eidoo/eidoocard-crypto-debit-card-2/) - 2gether Card review (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129358.0) - Monolith Card review (https://quickpenguin.net/monolith-review/) - MCO Visa Card review (https://medium.com/@oofoofoof/a-deep-review-of-mco-visa-card-things-you-should-know-before-applying-and-using-it-98b21966514e) - Change Card review (https://www.cryptocompare.com/wallets/change-crypto-card/) - Spend Card review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46Bq8BBLZ8A) - Bitpay Card review (https://news.bitcoin.com/bitpay-visa-bitcoin-debit-card-review/) - Paycent Card review (https://www.cryptowisser.com/card/paycent-card/) - TenX card review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcR78LXKdbY) - TenX card review 2 (https://www.coinbureau.com/review/tenx-pay/) - Crypterium Card review (https://coinsutra.com/crypterium-review/) - Nexo Card review (https://cryptocurrencycard.org/nexo-card-review-is-nexo-the-best-crypto-card/) - Uphold Card review (https://www.blockfer.com/debit-cards/reviews/uphold-card/) - Bitnovo Card review (https://cryptotips.eu/en/review/bitnovo/) - Uquid Card review (https://bitreview.com/debit-cards/uquid) - Mistertango Card review (https://www.cryptowisser.com/card/mistertango/) - Jubiter Card review (https://www.cryptowisser.com/card/jubiter-card/) - Coinsbank Card review (https://captainaltcoin.com/coinsbank-card-review/) - WageCan Card review (https://bitcoin-debit-cards.com/bitcoincards/wagecan-review/) - raxcard Card review (http://www.bestbitcoincard.com/en/raxcard-com/) - SatoshiTango card review (https://www.bestbitcoinexchange.net/en/satoshitango-com/) - CoinJar Card review (https://www.cryptowisser.com/card/coinjar-card/) - Binance Card review (https://www.blockfer.com/debit-cards/reviews/binance-card-preview/) - Bitplastic Card review (http://www.bestbitcoincard.com/en/bitplastic-com/) - Plutus Card review (https://cryptocurrencycard.org/plutus-card-review-is-plutus-card-the-best-crypto-card/) - Coinzoom Card review (https://cryptocurrencycard.org/is-coinzoom-the-best-crypto-card-coinzoom-card-review/) - UPayCard Card review (https://coinfunda.com/upaycard-review-virtual-physical-card-and-wallets-with-bitcoin-exchange/) - Swipe Card review (https://www.coinbureau.com/review/swipe-sxp/) TRASTRA is definitely the move if you're within the EEA. They have the friendliest UI/UX than most and I have a Wirex, TenX, and Crypto.com card. Waiting for Asian expansion though! Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on October 28, 2020, 11:41:58 AM TRASTRA is definitely the move if you're within the EEA. They have the friendliest UI/UX than most and I have a Wirex, TenX, and Crypto.com card. Waiting for Asian expansion though! From the link OP has posted I can see: Quote from: https://baxity.com/trastra-cryptocard-review non-Euro purchase 3% of the transaction’s value ATM Transaction with Foreign Exchange 3% +2.25 EUR Monthly card management 1.25 EUR This is worse than "old" Wirex, while even Wirex is updating now towards 0 monthly fee and no FX fees if one receives the new MasterCard. Binance also claims to have no monthly or FX fees. AdvCash has the 3%, but at least no monthly fee. So from my knowledge TRASTRA is overly expensive. (If I'm wrong please correct me.) UI/UX is not everything. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: figmentofmyass on October 28, 2020, 11:27:54 PM Coinbase Card launches in the US. With this card, you can make purchases on the Internet and in stores, using crypto for this, and there is also a 4% cashback on the card in the form of crypto rewards. 4% are rewards in Stellar Lumens (XLM), for Bitcoin only 1%. Details here: https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-card-launches-in-the-us-8608e72cd0b5 those cash back levels look less attractive when you look at the fine print---2.49% per transaction to liquidate crypto. that's high even for coinbase's regular (non-pro) service. i guess people won't care if they're realizing huge capital gains, but i hope people don't start using this as a day-to-day spending card without realizing how much coinbase is pocketing. if you could trade on coinbase pro and then spend that USD or USDC value with the card (without incurring liquidation fees of course), then this would actually look tempting. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: gentlemand on October 29, 2020, 12:19:06 PM Same rates as the cards already available in other countries. That's a beefy rate but others like Wirex hide theirs with a spread. I guess it's more relevant in the US where banking is so painfully stone age. In Europe you sell and send to your bank account and it's done in an hour or less so I guess the main market there is for people worried about their bank getting arsey.
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: figmentofmyass on October 29, 2020, 08:47:01 PM Same rates as the cards already available in other countries. That's a beefy rate but others like Wirex hide theirs with a spread. does coinbase give users the bid/ask spread on coinbase pro? do they not charge a spread on top? i've never actually used it. i only ever signed up for the zero fees when they launched GDAX. their regular platform is such a ripoff and i see this as an extension of that. I guess it's more relevant in the US where banking is so painfully stone age. In Europe you sell and send to your bank account and it's done in an hour or less so I guess the main market there is for people worried about their bank getting arsey. in my experience with coinbase, ACH transfers hit your bank account on the 2nd day. if you're willing to pay for a wire, then next day. it's not that bad, certainly not enough to justify the liquidation fee + ATM fee IMO. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: gentlemand on October 31, 2020, 02:14:09 AM does coinbase give users the bid/ask spread on coinbase pro? do they not charge a spread on top? i've never actually used it. i only ever signed up for the zero fees when they launched GDAX. their regular platform is such a ripoff and i see this as an extension of that. Never bothered to check. I have a GBP Coinbase card but I've only used it once. I sure as shit hope they don't load the spread on top of charging 2.5% but you never know. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OROBTC on October 31, 2020, 03:02:35 AM ...
I received and activated my Bitpay Debit Card (MasterCard) on Thursday. I could not do the activation via the Bitpay app on my phone, so I had to call the 1-855-xxxxxxx number. Next was loading the card with BTC (looks like the only way, easily anyway, to load the card is from the Bitpay app), it converts to US$ and then does not vary (US$). I then used the card to buy a book and afterwards pull $20 from an ATM, all went smoothly. I did not have the time nor inclination to calculate fees, but they were apparently not exorbitant, but I will pay more attention the next time I use the card. I believe the limit on CA$H withdrawal from an ATM is a pretty decent $1000 per ATM visit. I also believe I read that you can have up to $25,000 loaded on it. That high limit on the card might come in handy if you are traveling and bump-up against your limits on any other cards you may have (assuming you can send BTC to it). So far, so good. Edit: KYC documents uploads are mandatory. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on October 31, 2020, 09:38:11 AM Found the site where information about 61 debit cards is collected: Compare Bitcoin Debit Cards (https://www.cryptocompare.com/wallets/#/cards) I think it contains outdated information. AFAIK Xapo cards are no more 2 years ago and Uquid is dead for example. That's what I noticed when checking the site fast.https://i.ibb.co/42hxrmd/Opera-2020-10-31-095718-www-cryptocompare-com.png (https://i.ibb.co/42hxrmd/Opera-2020-10-31-095718-www-cryptocompare-com.png) The list contains extended information about fees and countries of use. Please don't feel that I am criticising your efforts all the time, I appreciate what you are doing but I had bad experience finding the suitable almost imaginary service to use :-\ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Danslip on October 31, 2020, 11:33:57 PM Found the site where information about 61 debit cards is collected: Compare Bitcoin Debit Cards (https://www.cryptocompare.com/wallets/#/cards) AFAIK, this website data is based on the old spreadsheet which is not up to date. I have checked it a few months ago and the same Infomation is used for making this list. I will edit my post when I find this spreadsheet. BTW, I personally have used the Crypterium debit card and debit card from Dsx globals(Epayments partner). Cryptopay info is not transparent on the website, I have used the Russian number for registration and send the documents for verifying the account but they have blocked my account. After a few emails, the support team has refused the global card shipping and it is not available(AFAIK). Will be better to check it on the official thread.https://i.ibb.co/42hxrmd/Opera-2020-10-31-095718-www-cryptocompare-com.png The list contains extended information about fees and countries of use. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: impress on November 19, 2020, 07:40:28 AM Hey!
With a card (from the list), cryptocurrency will be converted automatically when buying something.? (btc>coffe) I know at this moment only one 2Gether. Thanks Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on November 19, 2020, 08:22:46 AM With a card (from the list), cryptocurrency will be converted automatically when buying something.? (btc>coffe) I know at this moment only one 2Gether. Not all of them can "do" that. Current Wirex doesn't, but afaik the "new one" they already advertise will do that too. AdvCash doesn't do that. Binance, on the other hand does that nicely. So not all have such a feature, you have to read and ask around when you acquire a crypto card. I guess that at some point in future all (or almost all) will do this, though. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NotATether on December 07, 2020, 11:58:01 AM @Ratimov, can you also list the funding and withdrawal limits for all the cards where applicable? This will be useful information for people who want to avoid verifying themselves to get a limit increase.
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Slow death on December 07, 2020, 12:51:05 PM spectrocoin.com only sends cards to European Economic Area countries
https://spectrocoin.com/en/countries.html ( do not send cards to my country, but they put my parents on that list, I had to contact support and they will confirm that they do not send a card to my country ) OP I think you need to fix this and also from what I see there are no cards that are sent to any corner of the world (except for the paycent that uses Chinese cards) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dunchy on December 08, 2020, 10:37:00 AM spectrocoin.com only sends cards to European Economic Area countries https://spectrocoin.com/en/countries.html ( do not send cards to my country, but they put my parents on that list, I had to contact support and they will confirm that they do not send a card to my country ) OP I think you need to fix this and also from what I see there are no cards that are sent to any corner of the world (except for the paycent that uses Chinese cards) Since, I believe, 2015 anything denominated in EUR has absolutely no way to be worldwide, but strictly confined to EEA citizen or permanent resident at least. All those services will gladly firtst take all of your verification data before letting you know that you're not eligible (the reason why all these benchmarking takes about them are awful). True, some of them may let you hold the account open with constraints on usage that render the whole service basically useless, but in no way will they let you have a debit card outside of EEA. spectrocoin.com only sends cards to European Economic Area countries https://spectrocoin.com/en/countries.html ( do not send cards to my country, but they put my parents on that list, I had to contact support and they will confirm that they do not send a card to my country ) OP I think you need to fix this and also from what I see there are no cards that are sent to any corner of the world (except for the paycent that uses Chinese cards) Paycent most probably not working. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2173711.msg53680325#msg53680325 [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on January 05, 2021, 10:28:23 PM -snip- Dunno where the production cost is shown but am I the only one finding that 100 EUR for it is ridiculous? I know there is very few services offering more but I recommend to avoid it unless a necessity since it claims to operate in most countries. Otherwise I didn't find reviews for it, TTM stands for to the moon bank apparently Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on January 06, 2021, 02:57:45 PM Dunno where the production cost is shown but am I the only one finding that 100 EUR for it is ridiculous? I know there is very few services offering more but I recommend to avoid it unless a necessity since it claims to operate in most countries. Otherwise I didn't find reviews for it, TTM stands for to the moon bank apparently Here: https://i.ibb.co/PcZG24t/Opera-2021-01-06-083904-ttmbank-com.png (https://i.ibb.co/PcZG24t/Opera-2021-01-06-083904-ttmbank-com.png) https://i.ibb.co/r7P3wcV/7545745745.png (https://i.ibb.co/r7P3wcV/7545745745.png) Yes, the price is, to put it mildly, overpriced. And also there is a restriction on some countries in terms of accepting an internal passport for passing KYC. Only international passport. I registered and tried to create an order. They require payment immediately, even before passing KYC, this is of course a little strange. Or I didn't understand something. :-\ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dunchy on January 26, 2021, 10:28:04 AM Is there any update on these
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on January 26, 2021, 12:18:29 PM Is there any update on these Russia and Turkey citizens have the right to a plastic or virtual card in Advcash, at least with their corresponding currency if not in Euro or USD. The remaining countries will be able to use international cards in few months "normally".There is ezzocard that offers anonymous virtual cards with huge fees and not working with every site afaik so use it at your own risk (of losing money). I made an exhaustive research and as far Advcash seems the best (future) solution for non-EEA citizens.. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on January 26, 2021, 02:31:35 PM Russia and Turkey citizens have the right to a plastic or virtual card in Advcash, at least with their corresponding currency if not in Euro or USD. The remaining countries will be able to use international cards in few months "normally". There is ezzocard that offers anonymous virtual cards with huge fees and not working with every site afaik so use it at your own risk (of losing money). I made an exhaustive research and as far Advcash seems the best (future) solution for non-EEA citizens.. Advcash is good for online shopping and paying some bills, but there are very small withdrawal limits, per month for Russian citizens it is allowed to withdraw $500 only in cash. To consider it as a full-fledged crypto debit card with such restrictions has not yet been possible. :-\ If someone is trying to withdraw crypto to cash, he can do it without using Advcash or other payments solutions. There is a way to send western union or moneygram or even a bank transfer from crypto to cash. I will not advertise it here since I didn't try it but it is possible to avoid those kinds of limits. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on January 26, 2021, 07:56:09 PM Not everything is so simple, in Russia they like to block such transfers and the only way to avoid this is to cash out the crypt through such cards. For me personally, Russian banks blocked such crypto transactions a couple of times, moreover, together with the card and the funds that were on it. Dunno how things are going on Russia but I will give you an example that I used recently.Therefore, using the methods you listed for cashing out cryptocurrency in Russia is not always safe. I sent few days ago the equivalent of 150 USD in bitcoin to an exchange and received ~110 USD in my Neteller balance. Obviously there was no crypto involved in this for Neteller, although it is allowed there, it was a transfer from USD to USD but the guy accepted bitcoin in exchange of USD. Same goes for bank transfer, Western Union and Moneygram, there is no crypto involved in this for authorities/banks, the guy/company exchange it as a p2p. I didn't try this latter method yet so can't guarantee it. Dunno if you understood me Ratimov. The main problem remains from where come this money and for what? You don't know the guy or the company that sent it and in exchange for what, remains the main problem... That's why I prefer to use Neteller for the moment and Advcash in the near future when international cards will be available. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Lucky - Luciano on January 29, 2021, 09:31:43 PM Not everything is so simple, in Russia they like to block such transfers and the only way to avoid this is to cash out the crypt through such cards. For me personally, Russian banks blocked such crypto transactions a couple of times, moreover, together with the card and the funds that were on it. Dunno how things are going on Russia but I will give you an example that I used recently.Therefore, using the methods you listed for cashing out cryptocurrency in Russia is not always safe. I sent few days ago the equivalent of 150 USD in bitcoin to an exchange and received ~110 USD in my Neteller balance. Obviously there was no crypto involved in this for Neteller, although it is allowed there, it was a transfer from USD to USD but the guy accepted bitcoin in exchange of USD. Same goes for bank transfer, Western Union and Moneygram, there is no crypto involved in this for authorities/banks, the guy/company exchange it as a p2p. I didn't try this latter method yet so can't guarantee it. Dunno if you understood me Ratimov. The main problem remains from where come this money and for what? You don't know the guy or the company that sent it and in exchange for what, remains the main problem... That's why I prefer to use Neteller for the moment and Advcash in the near future when international cards will be available. Everything Ratimow said applies to Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is impossible to withdraw funds without a crypto debit card. Banks block all money coming from crypto exchanges. And I'm looking for a crypto card that works in non-EU European countries. If anyone knows let me know. I slightly added the list of Crypto Debit Cards. Crypto Debit Card from the Fold that collaborates with Visa: Fold Visa Card. https://support.foldapp.com/hc/en-us/sections/360010926251-Fold-Visa-Card The Fold Card is a debit card that gives bitcoin prizes to its users. Of course, this card allows its users to top up their balance using bitcoin. Reference: https://foldapp.com/card/ -snip- Another complaint about using the Paycent Card:Paycent also has some problem with their card payment. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2173711.1720 I was also deceived by Paycent thieves. First, the Paycent card didn't work for me. Before that, I noticed that PayCent Union Pay card was no longer in my Paycent account. I had a certain amount of dollars on it. They kept telling me to try at other ATMs and none ATMs of them recognized the Paycent card as operational. All ATMs supported UnionPay. Then I couldn't even transfer dollars from my PayCent account to that card because it's no longer in my account. I also couldn't exchange $ in ETH and put them back in my ETH wallet because there is no such option on the Paycent app. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS - ONCE WHEN YOU SEND ETH TO A PAYCENT ACCOUNT, YOU CANNOT RETURN ETH AGAIN. I send again a few e-mails and customer support kept promising to send me back my dollars converted back to ETH. They never are. PayCent thieves. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on January 30, 2021, 05:32:11 PM I slightly added the list of Crypto Debit Cards. Crypto Debit Card from the Fold that collaborates with Visa: Fold Visa Card. https://support.foldapp.com/hc/en-us/sections/360010926251-Fold-Visa-Card The Fold Card is a debit card that gives bitcoin prizes to its users. Of course, this card allows its users to top up their balance using bitcoin. Reference: https://foldapp.com/card/ -snip- Another complaint about using the Paycent Card:Paycent also has some problem with their card payment. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2173711.1720 I was also deceived by Paycent thieves. First, the Paycent card didn't work for me. Before that, I noticed that PayCent Union Pay card was no longer in my Paycent account. I had a certain amount of dollars on it. They kept telling me to try at other ATMs and none ATMs of them recognized the Paycent card as operational. All ATMs supported UnionPay. Then I couldn't even transfer dollars from my PayCent account to that card because it's no longer in my account. I also couldn't exchange $ in ETH and put them back in my ETH wallet because there is no such option on the Paycent app. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS - ONCE WHEN YOU SEND ETH TO A PAYCENT ACCOUNT, YOU CANNOT RETURN ETH AGAIN. I send again a few e-mails and customer support kept promising to send me back my dollars converted back to ETH. They never are. PayCent thieves. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: btcb3g1nn3r on February 01, 2021, 08:59:53 PM great work, if you have the time to add another property for each: Allows virtual cards only? Yes/No
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on February 05, 2021, 12:03:10 PM great work, if you have the time to add another property for each: Allows virtual cards only? Yes/No AFAIK, none of the mentioned cards offer virtual cards (not anymore at least) except for AdvCash (EU customers) and GetSpendl (worldwide). Therefore, I don't really think that's a property worth adding. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: btcb3g1nn3r on February 05, 2021, 01:47:17 PM that's already good info for me as I don't need a physical card for my online only purchases :)
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on February 05, 2021, 02:55:40 PM great work, if you have the time to add another property for each: Allows virtual cards only? Yes/No AFAIK, none of the mentioned cards offer virtual cards (not anymore at least) except for AdvCash (EU customers) and GetSpendl (worldwide). Therefore, I don't really think that's a property worth adding. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on March 15, 2021, 11:50:20 AM It may worth mentioning that Wirex is ending the current VISA cards and started sending out their new MasterCard. In theory the fees will be different too.
And it may worth adding to the list OWNR prepaid VISA card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5322881), and maybe their "coming soon" virtual card too. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: ghazelhyt on March 15, 2021, 02:53:02 PM can one advise me a company from the list that requires "soft" kyc ?
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 16, 2021, 06:52:18 AM can one advise me a company from the list that requires "soft" kyc ? What is that you mean by soft exactly? Entering your credentials without the need of sending your documents? If so, I'm afraid none of the services on this list has that. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: ghazelhyt on March 18, 2021, 04:27:34 PM yes exactly
any idea? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NameBaby on April 10, 2021, 03:05:31 AM Change Card Does Not Support All The Countries.
Anyway thanks for the big list. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 10, 2021, 08:09:23 AM yes exactly any idea? I apologize for the late response but as I said before I'm afraid none of the services listed here offers that. If you don't mind using prepaid (non-reloadable) cards then you can check Coinsbee, they offer VCCs (up to 1000$) but make sure to read the warnings first, users have reported some issues with the cards before. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on April 10, 2021, 07:43:58 PM yes exactly any idea? I apologize for the late response but as I said before I'm afraid none of the services listed here offers that. If you don't mind using prepaid (non-reloadable) cards then you can check Coinsbee, they offer VCCs (up to 1000$) but make sure to read the warnings first, users have reported some issues with the cards before. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 14, 2021, 09:25:35 AM Hey Omega, are you aware/using any service that offers a reloadable virtual card (with crypto of course) for most countries? Something like Advcash, which unfortunately is still limited for a region for quite long time now.. In the list I can't find an attractive one. Have you checked OMNR? They were supposed to release a virtual card. If they haven't yet, it should be soon. Same thing applies for Advcash, I believe they're planning to go worldwide soon. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on April 14, 2021, 09:37:20 AM Same thing applies for Advcash, I believe they're planning to go worldwide soon. AdvCash are planning that for about a year, I think. That means that it can happen "any time now" or in years (unfortunately). Also keep an eye on their new inactivity fees. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on April 14, 2021, 02:33:29 PM Have you checked OMNR? They were supposed to release a virtual card. If they haven't yet, it should be soon. Same thing applies for Advcash, I believe they're planning to go worldwide soon. Link to OMNR?? Dunno why I failed to find anything related to it! I saw you were asking about getspendl in the past but it doesn't seem to be fully working? There isn't any update from them in Bitcointalk from a year now... For Advcash, it doesn't seem their card will be available before Q3? 2021 imo.. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on April 14, 2021, 02:41:32 PM Link to OMNR?? Dunno why I failed to find anything related to it! I am not certain, but he may be referring to OWNR. I've noticed their announcement not long ago, if you scroll up a bit you'll find my post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280997.msg56571985#msg56571985). (I don't know how good they are, DYOR before putting too much money there.) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on April 14, 2021, 02:59:15 PM Link to OMNR?? Dunno why I failed to find anything related to it! I am not certain, but he may be referring to OWNR. I've noticed their announcement not long ago, if you scroll up a bit you'll find my post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280997.msg56571985#msg56571985). (I don't know how good they are, DYOR before putting too much money there.) I remember checking your post and looking for OWNR before but it didn't satisfy what I am looking for unfortunately :-\ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 14, 2021, 03:03:31 PM Link to OMNR?? Dunno why I failed to find anything related to it! I saw you were asking about getspendl in the past but it doesn't seem to be fully working? There isn't any update from them in Bitcointalk from a year now... For Advcash, it doesn't seem their card will be available before Q3? 2021 imo.. My bad, as stated above, it's OWNR: https://card.ownrwallet.com/ You'll have to create an account before being able to access most of the details related to the card. As for GetSpendl, have you tried contacting the support? IIRC, they are very responsive. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on April 14, 2021, 03:16:32 PM As for GetSpendl, have you tried contacting the support? IIRC, they are very responsive. Honestly, I prefer to use something that's well known and trusted by our Bitcointalk community or at least tested by highly trusted members. Advcash seems to be the one satisfying all of these criteria. Will keep waiting for them :(Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: jerry0 on April 15, 2021, 07:07:45 AM Anyone have opinion for US customers?
I would be using it abroad though... Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 15, 2021, 07:56:23 AM Anyone have opinion for US customers? I would be using it abroad though... All cards work abroad. You just can't order them from everywhere. The most reputable one for U.S citizens would be the BitPay Card (https://bitpay.com/card/). Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: ghazelhyt on April 22, 2021, 05:06:36 PM Can someone advise on this card service https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244746.0 ?
i did not find any review across the forum as far as I understood they sell bank cards issued in name of darks, so it not a card issuer but can help spend crypto Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on April 22, 2021, 07:13:32 PM Can someone advise on this card service https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244746.0 ? It is a physical card that will be sent to you which is related to a third party (individual) that you can use with a certain (normal) limits. Hhampuz which is a reputable DT member left him a positive trust since he was an escrow of some of this transactions. Do your own search and think whether it is necessary to use this service or not. For me, I didn't try it and won't since I prefer virtual cards. i did not find any review across the forum as far as I understood they sell bank cards issued in name of darks, so it not a card issuer but can help spend crypto Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: pugman on April 23, 2021, 11:37:56 PM Holy shit how am I just seeing this what the fuck :[
Question: to those who have the binance card, opinions? Top 3 cards if you have to recommend? Would like a world-wide card kinda thing. And Is binance fees 9% or 0.9%? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on April 24, 2021, 04:40:16 AM Question: to those who have the binance card, opinions? Top 3 cards if you have to recommend? Would like a world-wide card kinda thing. And Is binance fees 9% or 0.9%? Although there are few shops which simply decline the Binance card, it's a great card. It has basically no fees and high limits. The fee is 0.9%, but unless you withdraw from ATM, you'll get 1% cashback as BNB so basically there's no fee. Forex exchange is at VISA rates with no extra fees. No monthly fee. No other fees. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: ghazelhyt on May 03, 2021, 03:18:07 PM Can someone advise on this card service https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244746.0 ? It is a physical card that will be sent to you which is related to a third party (individual) that you can use with a certain (normal) limits. Hhampuz which is a reputable DT member left him a positive trust since he was an escrow of some of this transactions. Do your own search and think whether it is necessary to use this service or not. For me, I didn't try it and won't since I prefer virtual cards. i did not find any review across the forum as far as I understood they sell bank cards issued in name of darks, so it not a card issuer but can help spend crypto Thank you very much snipie i will proceed with the escrow you mentioned and then share my feedback if someone is interested Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Sumarokov on June 02, 2021, 06:31:25 PM Can anyone recommend a crypto debit card that is not just app on smartphone, but allows you to send crypto to the card and check things using a PC with Windows?
I know the latter is less secure, but I hate apps on smartphones. Alternatively, a bank account like Fidor with easy access to Kraken (if Fidor allows internet banking). I live in Germany. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on June 02, 2021, 07:55:41 PM Can anyone recommend a crypto debit card linked to a bank that is not just app on smartphone, but allows internet banking using a PC with Windows? Not sure if I fully understand what you mean by "bank". There is some online services that offers plastic or virtual cards, allow sepa transfer and other options depending from the service itself and from your location. Take a look on advcash, you can use it in pc, you can register there and see if it is suitable for you or not before doing KYC.I know the latter is less secure, but I hate apps on smartphones. Alternatively, a bank account like Fidor with easy access to Kraken (if Fidor allows internet banking). I live in Germany. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Sumarokov on June 03, 2021, 06:36:09 AM Yes, I was not terribly clear and have rephrased the above message. While Sepa transfer would be good as well, what I am mainly looking for is a Crypto debit card that lets you send crypto to it and manage it with an "internet banking" style interface that works on PC. I do not like using smartphones for banking due to sight issues.
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on June 03, 2021, 06:46:02 AM Yes, I was not terribly clear and have rephrased the above message. While Sepa transfer would be good as well, what I am mainly looking for is a Crypto debit card that lets you send crypto to it and manage it with an "internet banking" style interface that works on PC. I do not like using smartphones for banking due to sight issues. If the operations you need (from PC/browser) are only sending crypto to account, maybe conversion to fiat, top up the card and also checking the transactions, Binance and AdvCash clearly have that, I think that even Wirex has it. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Sumarokov on June 03, 2021, 08:43:07 AM Yes, that is the ultimate back-up option. However, I find banks go completely loopy over transfers from crypto exchanges, call you up and I just want to avoid the hassle and only work with institutions which are mainly focused on the crypto thing (i.e. not high-street banks).
Bitwala would be ideal, but only works on a smartphone. I would like to find something like Bitwala, but which works on a PC... If the operations you need (from PC/browser) are only sending crypto to account, maybe conversion to fiat, top up the card and also checking the transactions, Binance and AdvCash clearly have that, I think that even Wirex has it. Sadly, Wirex only works on a smartphone. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on June 05, 2021, 03:44:52 PM Sadly, Wirex only works on a smartphone. This is incorrect. I don't remember what are the requirements to get the card, but at least afterwards you can do everything from the browser. And you need that only if you want to do the exchanges by hand. The new Wirex can convert automatically, so all you have to do is get the top up crypto address(es) and fund from time to time from your crypto wallets. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OgNasty on June 18, 2021, 10:23:22 PM It looks like a lot of the cards in the OP are still listed as being only available to European citizens. Coinbase definitely now allows Americans to have their Debit Card (I have one) and they offer 1% back in BTC or 4% back in XLM. The card looks quite nice, although I still prefer the look and feel of my Apple Card. Getting crypto back for spending fiat is great though and I've finally found a reason to hold a stablecoin (considered fiat in this statement). There wasn't any cost associated with receiving the card and no fees, so I don't see why anyone with a Coinbase account wouldn't have one of these sitting around.
https://i.imgur.com/ZivNFyZ.jpg Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: rsarkar on July 14, 2021, 04:23:17 AM Xapo has restarted issuing debit cards. somebody please review it.
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on July 14, 2021, 10:27:36 AM Xapo has restarted issuing debit cards. somebody please review it. In fact we are talking about a new Xapo service, it is now a digital bank (based on Gibraltar), like Neteller for example. It offers a bank account, a vault and a debit card for $150 annual fees.Pro: card is available worldwide apparently with almost no fees. Con: $150/year, no virtual card? I don't count to join them with such rate.. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 14, 2021, 10:49:55 AM In fact we are talking about a new Xapo service, it is now a digital bank (based on Gibraltar), like Neteller for example. It offers a bank account, a vault and a debit card for $150 annual fees. Pro: card is available worldwide apparently with almost no fees. Con: $150/year, no virtual card? I don't count to join them with such rate.. Do you happen to know which type of card they offer? Also where did you read about the countries? I can't find a list. I can only see that they offer bank transfers in over 130 countries. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on July 14, 2021, 01:26:43 PM In fact we are talking about a new Xapo service, it is now a digital bank (based on Gibraltar), like Neteller for example. It offers a bank account, a vault and a debit card for $150 annual fees. Do you happen to know which type of card they offer? Also where did you read about the countries? I can't find a list. I can only see that they offer bank transfers in over 130 countries.Pro: card is available worldwide apparently with almost no fees. Con: $150/year, no virtual card? I don't count to join them with such rate.. Well for countries, they didn't precise anything other than this Code: Xapo is prohibited from transacting with individuals, companies and countries that are on prescribed sanctions lists. Xapo will therefore screen against United Nations, European Union, UK Treasury and US Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) sanctions lists in all jurisdictions in which we operate Code: Xapo is headquartered in Gibraltar. However, due to the nature of our global offering, we have operations throughout the world, including but not limited to, North America, South America and Asia. We transfer your data to countries outside the European Economic Area (“third countries”) to the extent that is necessary in order to perform our services requested by you. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on July 17, 2021, 11:41:03 PM Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts.
https://www.advcash.com/en/solutions/card/ (https://www.advcash.com/en/solutions/card/) Pro: available in many countries normally in addition to Europe Cons: no virtual card? + higher fees for global users comparing to Europe I asked in ADVcash topic here about the virtual card for global users, hope it will be available with reasonable fees. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on July 18, 2021, 12:04:46 PM Xapo has restarted issuing debit cards. somebody please review it. I don't think that Xapo card is yet released for every country, except maybe for beta testing purposes , but it should happen this year with relaunching of their digital bank.I can't fins any page with fees but charging $150 annual fees is a bit to much in my opinion when compared with other card competition. Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts. What is the difference between ADV Global card and ADV Crypto World card?I see that ADV Crypto World card have 0.75% currency exchange fee, and ADV Global card have no fees, so I am not sure if both of them accept Bitcoin/crypto, or one of them is just for fiat currencies. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on July 18, 2021, 01:05:25 PM Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts. What is the difference between ADV Global card and ADV Crypto World card?I see that ADV Crypto World card have 0.75% currency exchange fee, and ADV Global card have no fees, so I am not sure if both of them accept Bitcoin/crypto, or one of them is just for fiat currencies. The main difference I noticed is in fees between both cards and the validity time. You have to login to get more details about them. Personally I am not very interested in plastic cards so I didn't dig further :) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 19, 2021, 02:32:00 PM Update concerning ADVcash: for the rest of the world, you can now (if available in your country) order a plastic ADV Global card or a plastic ADV Crypto World card for $95 + fees ~$30-60/year. Fees details can be checked in your accounts. What is the difference between ADV Global card and ADV Crypto World card?I see that ADV Crypto World card have 0.75% currency exchange fee, and ADV Global card have no fees, so I am not sure if both of them accept Bitcoin/crypto, or one of them is just for fiat currencies. The main difference I noticed is in fees between both cards and the validity time. You have to login to get more details about them. Personally I am not very interested in plastic cards so I didn't dig further :) Here are all the differences between the two cards[1][2]. The Global one (which is a UnionPay card) is cheaper (when comparing maintenance fees) however I find that the "Crypto world" card is better since it's a Visa and can be used anywhere. As for the card issuance fee, then the price looks reasonable to me considering that they're using DHL for delivery. I've also asked the support about the virtual card, and they said they currently have no information about it. Did something change regarding the providers of the cards? Why are more services starting to accept the rest of the world all of a sudden? [1] https://i.imgur.com/WxiAwQm.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/awS5iiL.png Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on July 19, 2021, 07:36:00 PM I've also asked the support about the virtual card, and they said they currently have no information about it. I already asked about virtual cards in advcash topic here and got this answer:Hi, I see advcash updated its card and included ADV Global and ADV Crypto World which is a great move although comparing to Europe, fees are higher. I wonder know why global virtual card wasn't included? and when it will be available? Thanks. Fees are always higher if you compare internationally available products with EU-only products, this works for basically any such platform. The economics of international USD cards is quite different, and the fees reflect that.It depends on the card vendor what kinds of cards they offer. These vendors do not have virtual cards at the moment, but if and when they do, we will be happy to consider adding them as well. Did something change regarding the providers of the cards? Why are more services starting to accept the rest of the world all of a sudden? There is only few services accepting the rest of the world and AFAIK only advcash released new cards in the last couple months although they launched it in the past then stopped and changed providers before accepting it again. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 21, 2021, 01:34:43 PM I don't think that Xapo card is yet released for every country, except maybe for beta testing purposes , but it should happen this year with relaunching of their digital bank. I can't fins any page with fees but charging $150 annual fees is a bit to much in my opinion when compared with other card competition. It says "coming soon" on the website but the app is already released as "Xapo bank". I installed it but I'm not receiving any confirmation link whenever I submit my email. In case someone is interested in trying it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Xapo&hl=en&gl=US There is only few services accepting the rest of the world and AFAIK only advcash released new cards in the last couple months although they launched it in the past then stopped and changed providers before accepting it again. Xapo's card, Advcash, B21.io (not all, but about ~80 countries which is more than most of the services out there), and you also have the big giant Revolut who are soon going to start supporting more countries. That's why I've been wondering if there were any new laws that helped all these services go worldwide, or it's just a coincidence. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: crypto-recovery on August 02, 2021, 02:24:02 PM Swipe.io is still up and running, but the page that's listed in the list (https://swipe.io/cards) is now a broken page. Here's an archived version of the old page: https://web.archive.org/web/20201126114828/https://swipe.io/cards
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: DavideBaldini on August 02, 2021, 06:13:52 PM I had the Binance plastic card for a few months. It worked w/o issues on every shop I tried it, online and at a POS, except for a Tamoil gas station where it was rejected despite the card held 180€ at the time, all deposited as EURO. The self-service pump first displayed "pin code correct", and then "transaction denied".
Conveniently Binance sends an instant email whenever an online merchant tries to charge the card for an amount greater than the card's balance. At the time of a transaction, the 0.9% fee is levied only if a cryptocurrency conversion is required to rise enough EURO to complete the payment, otherwise the fee is null. My first and last instance of letting the card automatically convert from crypto to EURO applied a terrible or buggy conversion rate, like 50% worse than the spot price. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on August 03, 2021, 05:30:45 AM The self-service pump first displayed "pin code correct", and then "transaction denied". My Binance card is denied by a small number of shops, the most known being the Lidl group (both inside or outside my country). But I've got used by that, the old Wirex, when it was also issued by Contis, had the same problem. So it's not a Binance issue, it's a Contis issue. My first and last instance of letting the card automatically convert from crypto to EURO applied a terrible or buggy conversion rate, like 50% worse than the spot price. I use seldom the auto-conversion, exactly because I've noticed something odd with the conversion rate, but I cannot tell how bad it was when I've noticed it. But I don't have enough "data" to say more, maybe others use the auto-conversion more and can tell? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on August 04, 2021, 08:36:36 PM Australian Crypto Exchange Coinjar has released a new cryptocurrency debit card backed by Mastercard. Interesting service but the card is mentioned "coming soon" on their site. I wonder know if it will be available globally or just in Australia /UK.. Besides verification seems to be only available for Australian right now, no? Ann here: https://blog.coinjar.com/digital-coinjar-card/ https://i.ibb.co/hYq6n1X/Opera-2021-08-04-204226-www-coinjar-com.png (https://i.ibb.co/hYq6n1X/Opera-2021-08-04-204226-www-coinjar-com.png) https://www.coinjar.com/au/card The card supports more than 30 cryptocurrencies, with a conversion commission of only 1%. The card is available in both physical and digital form. You can pay with the card wherever Mastercard is supported, as well as withdraw cash from ATMs. The issue of the card is free in any form, and the fees are acceptable, no monthly fees: https://i.ibb.co/P4nXmj2/Opera-2021-08-04-204514-www-coinjar-com.png (https://i.ibb.co/P4nXmj2/Opera-2021-08-04-204514-www-coinjar-com.png) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: italianMiner72 on September 05, 2021, 07:10:17 AM Great job fron the thread admin!
Well done! Anyway, can I ask to add a column in the OP table? I think could be usefull to know from which state the card was emitted. Thank you again from the great job! Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 05, 2021, 08:13:23 AM Great job fron the thread admin! Well done! Anyway, can I ask to add a column in the OP table? I think could be usefull to know from which state the card was emitted. Thank you again from the great job! Are you referring to the shipping? What's the point of that? Since most of these services will allow you to track the package. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on September 05, 2021, 10:59:03 PM Been trying to install the changeinvest.com android app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getchange.wallet.cordova) but for some reason it's not available for any of my devices. I got a couple of Huawei devices. One has android 7 OS while the other has android 10
https://i.imgur.com/QkLikXc.png So am not sure if it's a compatibility issue or something else. Can someone help me ascertain what the cause could be? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: BitMaxz on September 05, 2021, 11:57:44 PM ~snip~ I tried to check that but mine shows different look at the image below https://i.imgur.com/dp5W1wI.png And it seems they only have limited supported devices look https://i.imgur.com/zEIceHK.png So based on that image only one Huawei model is supported. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on September 06, 2021, 06:26:04 AM I tried to check that but mine shows different look at the image below From what I see, the first image may be from a computer browser, while the second is from Google Play Android app, hence the difference. Although it's (more or less) on the list, I'll add that it's available for my Xiaomi Redmi 5 Plus with Android 8.1; but the problem may indeed be the Huawei device. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on September 07, 2021, 10:26:52 PM >>snip<< So I visited the link on my Google play, and I am now getting the same message as yours, "This item isn't available in your country"Now I wonder why they would put up misleading information on their website that the VISA Debit card can be used Worldwide https://i.imgur.com/0yjghl3.png Maybe Ratimov can make a small correction Change Card (https://www.changeinvest.com) - INFO:
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: bullrun2024bro on September 08, 2021, 11:14:55 AM Does anyone have information on how much Binance credit card fees are at ATMs? Does the 0.9% also apply to cash withdrawals? And are ATM fees added to this? If so, in what amount? I have heard too different statements here. From no fees at all for cash withdrawals at ATMs to heavily overcharged fees due to ATM extra fees.
Unfortunately, the information on the Binance website (https://www.binance.com/en/cards) does not provide much information here. Would be grateful for any helpful response. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on September 08, 2021, 11:28:59 AM Does anyone have information on how much Binance credit card fees are at ATMs? Does the 0.9% also apply to cash withdrawals? And are ATM fees added to this? If so, in what amount? I have heard too different statements here. From no fees at all for cash withdrawals at ATMs to heavily overcharged fees due to ATM extra fees. Unfortunately, the information on the Binance website (https://www.binance.com/en/cards) does not provide much information here. Would be grateful for any helpful response. Yes, the 0.9% fee also applies to withdrawals. And you won't get the BNB cashback either, like you get for purchases. And the ATM fees are on top of it - I've seen ATMs with 0 extra fee, I've seen ATMs with ~4 EUR extra too. Keep in mind that also that extra is counted within the daily withdrawals/limits. The extra fee should be shown by the ATM. One important thing is also the conversion rate. If you don't withdraw your card's currency, most ATMs will offer you 2 options, of which one is conversion of bank's (bad) exchange rate and one is at VISA standard exchange rate (good). Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on November 29, 2021, 02:31:15 PM The litecoin foundation released a debit card (https://litecoin-card.com/) a few weeks ago, if you want to list it. It's currently available for the U.S only but should be available for the rest of the world soon.
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: DaveF on December 04, 2021, 04:30:53 PM The litecoin foundation released a debit card (https://litecoin-card.com/) a few weeks ago, if you want to list it. It's currently available for the U.S only but should be available for the rest of the world soon. The litecoin cards are issued by and run by blockcard who is mentioned in the 1st post of this thread. Same card, different skin on it. Somewhere on the blockcard website is does, or at least did mention co-branding cards so there will probably be more in the future. Also, the bitpay card can use ETH & LTC to fund it. Not sure if you would want to add the cashapp debit card to the list. You can send BTC to cash app and sell it and use that on their debit card. -Dave Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: DarkStar_ on December 19, 2021, 08:07:35 AM MCO Visa Card (https://crypto.com/en/cards.html) INFO:
If this list is still being maintained, I'd recommend an update to the MCO Visa Card. They rebranded to become the Crypto.com (CDC) Visa Card a while back, and added quite a few more countries including Canada, Brazil, the UK and Australia. Swipe also pivoted from being consumer focused to being business focused, and no longer issue consumer cards. I believe all existing Swipe customers were migrated to the Binance card. Too bad they no longer exist - they seemed like the only competitor to Crypto.com in terms of benefits and rewards. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on December 20, 2021, 12:05:56 PM Has anyone looked into Paycent recently? It appears that they are no longer offering. I haven't installed the app but both their Twitter and medium pages[1] are gone. The roadmap is stuck in 2019 and even the reviews section on the play store seems dead[2].
The same thing goes for Coinsbank. The card is still unavailable to order, and apparently, even the exchange is no longer functioning. The rates are wrong (see the site's header), CMC is no longer able to track data[3], inactive Twitter account, and people are reporting that they cannot withdraw their funds[4]. [1] https://medium.com/@paycent | https://twitter.com/PaycentGlobal [2] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.texcent.paycent&hl=en&gl=US [3] https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/coinsbank/ [4] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.CoinsBank.CoinsBank&hl=en&gl=US Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on March 09, 2022, 09:22:51 AM Recently, FTX announced a debit card: https://card.ftx.com Hehe, I was expecting this news come up! Actually they took their time with it... It was one important missing bit in the competition against Binance. Now their offers are (at least in my eyes/on what interests me) on similar level. I'll follow the FTX card story, I'm very curious if they can make it better and more reliable than Binance's, while keeping it (almost) for free. It is possible. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on March 09, 2022, 10:00:02 AM It was one important missing bit in the competition against Binance. Now their offers are (at least in my eyes/on what interests me) on similar level. Same thing here, I was waiting for FTX to finally release their card as that is the only thing that keeps me using Binance.I'll follow the FTX card story, I'm very curious if they can make it better and more reliable than Binance's, while keeping it (almost) for free. It is possible. To be honest, they will have to offer quite a lot of things to make people leave Binance card as at the moment it's pretty reliable. The biggest issue for me when it comes to Binance card is daily ATM withdrawal limit, 290 euro just ain't enough. If FTX increases that, offer cashback that's easy to obain (1-2 % would be good enough for me) and be as reliable as Binance card is, it will be a no brainer for me. Either way, it's definitely good news as competition is good for us users.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: aliitp2 on March 13, 2022, 01:07:32 AM Snip For advcash the first option why does it say master card ?? Am pretty sure they only provide union pay cards not master or visa !?… Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 13, 2022, 08:31:05 AM For advcash the first option why does it say master card ?? Am pretty sure they only provide union pay cards not master or visa !?… AFAIK, they used to have MasterCard before, and currently, they have Visa cards but it's just for EU, Turkey, and Israel while UnionPay cards are for the rest of the world. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 07, 2022, 09:42:50 AM Coinbase released a new card[1]. The card won't have any transaction fees and it's only going to be available for U.S citizens.
[1] https://blog.coinbase.com/meet-the-refreshed-coinbase-card-more-crypto-rewards-%C2%B9-no-more-transaction-fees%C2%B2-befc07046e50 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Potato Chips on April 07, 2022, 10:12:24 AM Just noticed cex.io also has an upcoming debit card (and no one mentioned)
Quote from: https://cex.io/getmydebitcard Q. Who can sign up for the CEX.IO Card? A. We plan to cover as many geographies as possible. Initially, we are starting with the UK and EU countries (except for Germany and Malta for now), and will be expanding to other countries after. Q. When will you issue the CEX.IO card? A. We hope to launch the digital version of the CEX.IO card by the end of Q4 2021 and are hoping to launch the physical card by early 2022. That being said, we are aiming to launch the digital and physical cards earlier to those that sign up early on our waitlist above :) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Slow death on April 12, 2022, 07:25:47 AM WageCan (https://wagecan.com) - https://i.ibb.co/LRvzxF1/Wage-Can-Picture-of-Card.png INFO:
Op I ask to correct, the card costs $199 For advcash the first option why does it say master card ?? Am pretty sure they only provide union pay cards not master or visa !?… AFAIK, they used to have MasterCard before, and currently, they have Visa cards but it's just for EU, Turkey, and Israel while UnionPay cards are for the rest of the world. the strange thing is that their unionpay card does not reach my country even though the unionpay website itself says it reaches my country and even though all banks in my country say that the unionpay card is supported in my country, but on the website from advcash it says unionpay card is not supported in my country. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on May 17, 2022, 05:05:24 PM Not sure if you're interested in listing non-fiat cards but CoinCorner just released the "The bolt card" [1][2] (NFC) which can be used to pay for LN invoices.
[1] https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/coincorner-releases-the-bolt-card-for-bitcoin [2] https://twitter.com/CoinCorner/status/1526605214803017729 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on June 08, 2022, 01:45:14 PM Not sure how they managed to pull this off but Edge wallet just launched a fully KYC-free MasterCard (U.S)[1]. The card doesn't require any kind of personal information (that includes email and phone numbers) and allows you to spend up to 1K$ per day.
[1] https://decrypt.co/102279/edge-releases-first-confidential-bitcoin-mastercard Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on June 08, 2022, 08:28:12 PM Not sure how they managed to pull this off but Edge wallet just launched a fully KYC-free MasterCard (U.S)[1]. The card doesn't require any kind of personal information (that includes email and phone numbers) and allows you to spend up to 1K$ per day. From what I understood after seeing their website, you don't have to do any KYC when creating an account in their plateforme and you can convert Bitcoin and few other cryptocurrencies to USD then send it to the card which doesn't require also KYC information. So far that's good when shopping online with a virtual card but could the card be denied when paying in shops outside of the USA? [1] https://decrypt.co/102279/edge-releases-first-confidential-bitcoin-mastercard Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: malevolent on June 10, 2022, 11:57:14 PM Not sure how they managed to pull this off but Edge wallet just launched a fully KYC-free MasterCard (U.S)[1]. The card doesn't require any kind of personal information (that includes email and phone numbers) and allows you to spend up to 1K$ per day. [1] https://decrypt.co/102279/edge-releases-first-confidential-bitcoin-mastercard Anyone used them? I guess it's no KYC but they probably reserve the right to ask you to undergo KYC at any moment. edit: checked the dedicated thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5401874.0 US only, some other caveats, and they're putting the program on hold anyway: https://edge.app/blog/company-news/official-announcement-edge-card/ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on June 23, 2022, 01:03:43 PM KuCoin exchange launches its Kucard crypto debit card: https://www.kucoin.com/kucard So after FTX announced their card, Kucoin decided to go down the same road. Btw , where you maybe able to find any info about fees and withdrawal limits? Since Kucoin is one of the rare exchanges where I don't have to do KYC I think that I will skip this offer. After all, Binance card works almost flawlessly for me (except some weird contactless feature issues every once in a wqhile), so no reason to give my data to yet another exchange. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on June 23, 2022, 01:58:05 PM It is unlikely that the development of the card could have been carried out even earlier, and Binance became the pioneer among exchange cards, if I am not mistaken, other exchanges also began to follow this trend. Most likely, FTX just released this product earlier, and Kucoin is still testing it. Hm I thought that Coinbase was the first exchange that release debit cards as IIRC one friend got his Coinbase card back in 2019 while Binance card came to Europe in mid 2020 and I got mine few months after that. But Binance one is immensely more popular, at least here in Croatia.It is known that no money will be taken for issuing a card, and it will also be free in terms of annual maintenance. Withdrawal limits and commissions for purchases will be announced, most likely when it is officially launched. So pretty much the standard stuff and its good to see how situation changed compared to 4-5 years ago when Wirex had fees for every possible thing making it very impractical to use. What i would like to see is debit card with high daily ATM withdrawal limit as Binance allows only 290 euro which can be quite restricting. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on June 23, 2022, 05:30:30 PM The same applies to cards of payment services that work with cryptocurrency, for example, the advcash card also has a very limited cash withdrawal limit. I think this is due to the regulation around cryptocurrencies, and regulators do not want people to be able to withdraw a lot of cash through banking systems using crypto cards. Not only cryptocurrency cards are affected with the relatively low limits, but the regular ones issued by banks as well (albeit withdrawal limits are higher). For example, card issued by my bank has 5000 kuna daily withdrawal limit (approximately 660 euro) so its a little bit more than a double of Binance card. Big advantage of Binance card is that daily spending limit is 8700 euro which should be enough for 99.99% users.Its all probably about governments not liking the thought of us withdrawing money without them knowing on what exactly we are spending it. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on June 23, 2022, 06:54:33 PM So after FTX announced their card, Kucoin decided to go down the same road. Btw , where you maybe able to find any info about fees and withdrawal limits? On their website they say there are no annual or transaction fees, but they could charge some fees for trading crypto and for fiat conversion when you spend or buy something with KuCard.They are still testing this card so we don't know how usable it will be in real life, and I won't open new kyc account just to get this card. I am hoping that someone will create legit usable no-kyc card that works in Europe and worldwide. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on June 24, 2022, 06:41:32 AM On their website they say there are no annual or transaction fees, but they could charge some fees for trading crypto and for fiat conversion when you spend or buy something with KuCard. Yeah I saw that part, its pretty much standard thing when it comes to crypto debit cards, nothing new there. They are still testing this card so we don't know how usable it will be in real life, and I won't open new kyc account just to get this card. It will be very hard for them to compete with Binance, at least here in Europe. Competition is a good thing though for us users, so I say bring it on.I am hoping that someone will create legit usable no-kyc card that works in Europe and worldwide. Since regulations are only getting tighter, I think that a legit and usable non KYC crypto debit card with reasonable fees is unfortunately nothing but a pipe dream. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on June 24, 2022, 10:46:20 AM Since regulations are only getting tighter, I think that a legit and usable non KYC crypto debit card with reasonable fees is unfortunately nothing but a pipe dream. There is one small project that has legit card without kyc (coindebit.io) like I wrote before, but it is only available in United States, both for spending and for issuing physical cards.We can always find a way to play around the rules and regulations, and we the people are the majority, so we don't always have to roll-off and accept everything they are offering us. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on June 24, 2022, 02:16:40 PM There is one small project that has legit card without kyc (coindebit.io) like I wrote before, but it is only available in United States, both for spending and for issuing physical cards. If what they are saying on their website is true and you maximum amount that you can have on card is only $250, that makes it very impractical for every day use. I also see that they are hiding their fees (did you maybe find out that info?) which from my experience usually means that they are quite high so combo of those two things would most probably make it unusable for me even if its available in Europe.We can always find a way to play around the rules and regulations, and we the people are the majority, so we don't always have to roll-off and accept everything they are offering us. I am all up for trying to avoid rules and regulations, but I am also realistic about compromises needed to be made in order to use crypto debit card in an efficient way. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: malevolent on June 24, 2022, 11:51:39 PM In general, if you seriously delve into this aspect, then the first exchange that announced its crypto debit card was the Bitfinex exchange, it was back in 2015, but the first exchange that not only announced, but was able to issue a physical plastic card was precisely Coinbase, yes. The first exchange with their plastic cards was Bitcurex in August 2012: https://web.archive.org/web/20121021142209/http://shop.bitcurex.com/product.php?id_product=10 Obviously also no KYC at the time. The next one after them was BitInstant, I think, although I don't remember if they actually managed to launch it. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on July 06, 2022, 12:10:18 PM The world's first crypto card that does not have any spending limits. There is also a 10% cashback in SPND tokens. To order, you will need to provide data on your annual income, as the card is designed for customers with high purchasing power. All this crypto cards that have earning rewards in some shitcoins, in this case $spend token, are high risk especially if they don't have limits like this one.I would be very careful using any of them with larger amount of money, and they can end up similar like Celsius did with their card that stopped all withdrawals, swap and transfers. Lets move to some positive news, I didn't see CoinDebit card mentined anywhere in your list. This is one of the first working fully anonymous cards for up to $250, but it currently works only in United States. I wouldn't go wild using this card everywhere, there are some risks and it can be refused in some places, but it can be useful and it's unique card. https://i.ibb.co/G9fbggB/img937ee8fd36ec7a0ec33b4afcf4aef6a0.jpg https://www.coindebit.io/ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on July 06, 2022, 03:15:07 PM I don't know what is its uniqueness with such download limits, 250$? This is not a card in the broadest sense of the word, but just a beautiful little thing, as a gift for a crypto beginner it can fit, and it is almost pointless to use it as a card with such limits. It would be unique if there was a limit of at least 1 bitcoin. There are reloadable cards option (there are confirmed reports of cards accepting more than $250), or you can just buy ten, hundred or 1000 separate cards and load them all with $250 if you want to spend more, this is ANONYMOUS card, not some shitcoin scam cards like Voyager, Celsius or fake unlimited BitcoinBlack card that gets blocked each time when bitcoin market crashes and their token dies. RIP https://www.investvoyager.com/debitcard/ RIP https://celsius.network/ RIP ? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on July 06, 2022, 03:40:59 PM Anonymous = means safe? In my country, too, at one time there was an anonymous payment card with a minimum limit, it was perfectly used in various telephone frauds and petty extortions, so in the future no one wanted to accept payments from it. This anonymous card may also have the same fate. No, anonymous means that I don't have to submit my whole life history (maybe even blood type) like for bitcoinblackcreditcard, just so I could get fake Unlimited forever stamp :DOn card I mentioned there is a limit for a reason, and I don't think that is a bad thing. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on July 07, 2022, 04:56:47 PM Visa has released a new crypto credit card - bitcoinblack, but only for residents of Dubai and the United Arab Emirates: Judging by the articles they've featured in before [e.g. this one (https://financialpost.com/pmn/press-releases-pmn/business-wire-news-releases-pmn/fd7-ventures-invests-in-bitcoinblack-canadas-first-bitcoin-credit-card)], it seems that they first launched in Canada so I don't think it's limited to wealthy UAE residents...- They've also used the following line in various places on their website: "Limited to 10,000 members worldwide (https://www.bitcoinblackcreditcard.com/)" Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on July 08, 2022, 06:33:42 AM I don't know what is its uniqueness with such download limits, 250$? This is not a card in the broadest sense of the word, but just a beautiful little thing, as a gift for a crypto beginner it can fit, and it is almost pointless to use it as a card with such limits. It would be unique if there was a limit of at least 1 bitcoin. It's like having an anonymous smartphone, but which can only call one number, there is almost no point in this, but it's a cool unique feature. While its true that $250 limit disqualifies it for any serious use, I wouldn't say that it couldn't be useful in certain situations so its a good addition and I would like to have one just in case. My problem with anonymous debit cards is that it sounds good at first but when I think about things I use debit card for (99% is ordering stuff online), it makes it kinda pointless as I have to give my info anyway and places where I actually want anonymity us offer bitcoin as a mean of payment. Another problem is that those type of cards have very high fees simply due the fact that there is no much competition which seriously limits its usefulness. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: bopaza on July 09, 2022, 11:05:53 AM spectrocoin not worldwide => countries list
https://spectrocoin.com/en/faqs/prepaid-card/i-see-order-card-option-but-i-cant-use-it-why.html (https://spectrocoin.com/en/faqs/prepaid-card/i-see-order-card-option-but-i-cant-use-it-why.html) cryptopay me not worldwide => countries list https://help.cryptopay.me/en/articles/4176667-countries-where-cryptopay-cards-are-available (https://help.cryptopay.me/en/articles/4176667-countries-where-cryptopay-cards-are-available) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on August 13, 2022, 12:13:33 AM Lightning Network-powered payment app, Strike, launches its Visa debit card: Their service is available for USA, El Salvador and Argentina.. It is good to see a new card issued anyway.https://i.imgur.com/c31JoEi.png A system of rewards for using the card has also been announced, whether it is a deposit in bitcoins and fiat, payment in bitcoins and fiat, Apple Pay and Google Pay payments, etc. I still find the best option that is available worldwide is advcash although the huge fees for cards and the unavailability of the visa one + no virtual for non Europeans. I wonder if anyone used Spendl? or have an idea about virtual card that is available everywhere? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on August 14, 2022, 05:19:29 AM Lightning Network-powered payment app, Strike, launches its Visa debit card: Considering what Jack and Strike have been trying to achieve in the past year or two, this move is a strange one...Their service is available for USA, El Salvador and Argentina.. It seems that they still have to wait for an unspecified amount of time [waitlist] before they can use that particular service.I wonder if anyone used Spendl? Had no luck in finding someone from this forum, but here's an "unsatisfied (https://www.reddit.com/r/lightningnetwork/comments/m9vp8n/comment/gs1p9ua/)" customer!- It's worth noting that there are still no non-KYC cards, so it's limited to European countries [+ UK]. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on August 14, 2022, 01:36:18 PM I wonder if anyone used Spendl? Had no luck in finding someone from this forum, but here's an "unsatisfied (https://www.reddit.com/r/lightningnetwork/comments/m9vp8n/comment/gs1p9ua/)" customer!- It's worth noting that there are still no non-KYC cards, so it's limited to European countries [+ UK]. Their promotional strategy is weird.. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 07, 2022, 09:18:39 AM NearPay recently launched a virtual visa card[1]. The card is available for the residents of EEA and the UK. You can find the limits and fees here[2].
[1] https://cryptonews.com/news/nearpay-launches-virtual-crypto-cards-wallet-for-ios-and-android-physical-cards-to-be-launched-soon.htm [2] https://nearpay.co/card Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on September 07, 2022, 02:37:12 PM In addition to OmegaStarScream's post, Reef also launched their crypto debit card after a long delay: Reef’s highly anticipated Reef Card is officially available for crypto holders (https://cointelegraph.com/press-releases/reefs-highly-anticipated-reef-card-is-officially-available-for-crypto-holders)
- It's issued by Optimus Cards UK Limited and powered by Baanx (available to UK and EEA residents). - For fees, refer to the footer area of "this (https://reefcard.com/)" page. Just found out Nuri [formally known as Bitwala] "filed for insolvency in August (https://nuri.com/blog/nuri-filed-for-insolvency/)" and if there are still some that use their services, perhaps it's the right time to look for an alternative provider [regardless of what they've said in the blog post]! Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: bullrun2024bro on September 19, 2022, 03:21:57 PM As helpful information:
We have a similar thread on the German-language board. And we recently started taking a closer look at individual crypto debit card services (e.g. Binance, Crypto.com, Bitpanda or Wirex) and listing the benefits of each provider. I know the thread is in German, but contains many useful links and up-to-date information (all edited in September 2022). Therefore, it may be interesting for some of the English-speaking users as well. You can use a translator if necessary. Anbieter von Bitcoin Prepaid Kreditkarten (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132044.0) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on September 19, 2022, 09:55:16 PM As helpful information: Thanks for the information :) We have a similar thread on the German-language board. And we recently started taking a closer look at individual crypto debit card services (e.g. Binance, Crypto.com, Bitpanda or Wirex) and listing the benefits of each provider. I know the thread is in German, but contains many useful links and up-to-date information (all edited in September 2022). Therefore, it may be interesting for some of the English-speaking users as well. You can use a translator if necessary. Anbieter von Bitcoin Prepaid Kreditkarten (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132044.0) Although it is in German but you could understand with the translation. I found Ammar cards that looks interesting but dunno if it was tested or not. Astropay didn't mention the accepted countries and dunno why someone has to contact them to know he it is eligible to join them or not. Mastertango seems interesting also but only business accounts are open for the moment.. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Jazzycrypt on September 25, 2022, 11:28:02 PM which card today is best to add after Binance card as cheapest alternative second service for spending crypto in EU to use also with ATM in EUR?
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on September 26, 2022, 06:51:56 AM which card today is best to add after Binance card as cheapest alternative second service for spending crypto in EU to use also with ATM in EUR? Imo that would probably be Revolut (its not a crypto card though), but for that to work you would need Coinbase account as well. Few of my close friends have it and I think its even more reliable than Binance card, but the downside is that you will have to do two separate KYCs, for both Coinbase and Revolut. I personally don't have it because I don't really want to do extra KYCs and Binance card works pretty good for me, but if that's not the problem for you then Revolut is way to go and that's the one I would get if something happened to Binance.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on September 26, 2022, 08:09:21 PM which card today is best to add after Binance card as cheapest alternative second service for spending crypto in EU to use also with ATM in EUR? I think Advcash is a good alternative especially for Europeans since it is cheaper than the card available for the rest of the countries in the world.Otherwise there is Neteller but honestly I am not sure if you can spend directly crypto deposited there with their mastercard or you have to use a third party service for deposit. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Jazzycrypt on September 26, 2022, 10:23:53 PM which card today is best to add after Binance card as cheapest alternative second service for spending crypto in EU to use also with ATM in EUR? Imo that would probably be Revolut (its not a crypto card though), but for that to work you would need Coinbase account as well. Few of my close friends have it and I think its even more reliable than Binance card, but the downside is that you will have to do two separate KYCs, for both Coinbase and Revolut. I personally don't have it because I don't really want to do extra KYCs and Binance card works pretty good for me, but if that's not the problem for you then Revolut is way to go and that's the one I would get if something happened to Binance.I'm Revolut user. But the point is that i plan use eur bank service not for regular spending, because taxes. For this moment i dont understand how can tax service of EU country see Binance card (or not) and count that spended money also. At this moment i'm thinking what different services are most reasonable for exit from crypto to EUR bank account by SEPA to lower comissions directly without p2p. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on October 01, 2022, 07:18:36 AM For this moment i dont understand how can tax service of EU country see Binance card (or not) and count that spended money also. Well, you are supposed to report your spending Binance card spendings to the tax office in your country but whether you will do it or risk it by not reporting is up to you and probably depends on how vigilant tax service in your country. Vast majority of people I know that are using crypto debit cards are not reporting it to our tax office, but mainly because procedure in my country is incredibly complicated so they rather risk it.At this moment i'm thinking what different services are most reasonable for exit from crypto to EUR bank account by SEPA to lower comissions directly without p2p. You might wanna look into Coinbase as well as some of my friends exited to EUR that way.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on October 07, 2022, 03:06:00 PM As expected, FTX is expanding their business and after US, they plan to release debit card in ~40 countries, focusing this time on Europe, Asia and Latin America. Since I am pretty satisfied with my Binance card and I really don't want to do KYC on another exchange, I think I will skip this one. Will be interesting though to see the perks & fees as they would have to be really good to get people move away from competition.
As mentioned earlier, the debit cards would be launched in about 40 countries. It was noted that both the parties involved were focusing on Latin America, Asia, and Europe. The cards will instantly connect to a user’s FTX crypto account and are already accessible in the United States. One thing I don't understand from that article is this part : "Unlink other debit cards, this one would allow customers to make purchases without having to move their cryptocurrencies from the exchange". I mean, how is that different from my Binance Visa card as I also don't have to move crypto from exchange. Or I misunderstood that sentence. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on October 07, 2022, 05:08:31 PM Will be interesting though to see the perks & fees as they would have to be really good to get people move away from competition. Despite having no administrative or processing fees [FTX Card Benefits (https://card.ftx.com/)], it doesn't seem to offer a cashback reward to its users.One thing I don't understand from that article is this part : "Unlink other debit cards, this one would allow customers to make purchases without having to move their cryptocurrencies from the exchange". I mean, how is that different from my Binance Visa card as I also don't have to move crypto from exchange. Or I misunderstood that sentence. AFAICS, there's no difference between the two with regard to that matter [I believe the author of that article was referring to how the majority of other providers usually do it].Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on October 07, 2022, 08:45:44 PM Despite having no administrative or processing fees [FTX Card Benefits (https://card.ftx.com/)], it doesn't seem to offer a cashback reward to its users. In that case I wish them good luck as they will have a hard time getting people on board. Unless their ATM limits are much higher than of competition, but looking at how it is in US (https://help.ftx.us/hc/en-us/articles/4415496888343-What-are-my-FTX-US-card-limits-), it doesn't look significantly better. Competition is a good thing though for us customers so the more the merrier.AFAICS, there's no difference between the two with regard to that matter [I believe the author of that article was referring to how the majority of other providers usually do it]. Then I guess its just some PR bullshit, to make them look better than competition.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: satscraper on October 25, 2022, 10:54:07 AM Nuri, former Bitwala, is going to close its business and be liquidated. CEO urges customers to withdraw their funds by 18/12/2022. "Unfortunately, we have not been able to find investors to continue our mission and have asked our customers to withdraw their funds by 18/12/2022 the latest, so the business can be terminated and liquidated. Customers have access and will be able to withdraw all funds until the aforementioned date. All assets in your Nuri account are safe and unaffected by Nuri’s insolvency. Trading will be possible until 30/11/2022." (https://nuri.com/blog/letter-from-ceo/)
P.S. I had feelings that something similar must happen and said bye-bye to Nuri in August this year. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on October 27, 2022, 05:38:33 PM Blockchain.com announced a visa debit card earlier today[1][2]. The waitlist is only available for U.S customers for now.
[1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-com-partners-with-visa-to-offer-crypto-debit-card [2] https://www.blockchain.com/card Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on October 28, 2022, 11:36:50 PM Blockchain.com announced a visa debit card earlier today[1][2]. The waitlist is only available for U.S customers for now. Blockchain.com is a popular site although I believe it dropped a bit comparing to the previous years. They reported a big number of people willing to order the card! [1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-com-partners-with-visa-to-offer-crypto-debit-card [2] https://www.blockchain.com/card Code: In a Yahoo Finance interview, Blockchain.com CEO Peter Smith said the card already had 50,000 signed onto a waiting list Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on November 25, 2022, 08:22:14 AM Ledger has released a debit card as well (with a third-party service)[1][2]. You need a ledger device if you want the card:
Quote from: https://www.ledger.com/cl-card Do I need to have a Ledger wallet to get the CL Card? Yes, you’ll need a Ledger wallet that is synced with Ledger Live to move assets between your secured wallet and the card [1] https://www.ledger.com/cl-card [2] https://blockworks.co/news/ledger-rolls-out-crypto-life-debit-card-across-uk-and-europe Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on November 25, 2022, 06:20:08 PM You need a ledger device if you want the card: IMO it's a poor decision by Ledger to design it in a way that relies on those who only have a Ledger device [the moment they move those assets to the CL card, they're no longer in custody, so what's the point in limiting it in this way (apart from the marketing part)?]!- Having said that, the addition of the cryptodraft (and maybe stableloan) was a nice touch. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on November 28, 2022, 10:29:15 PM Ledger has released a debit card as well (with a third-party service)[1][2]. You need a ledger device if you want the card: Can you guess what will happen with this card if (or when) Baanx go bankrupt soon?I see they also have their own centralized exchange powered by one more shittoken BXX, so don't be surprised if you hear news about this soon. My suggestion to everyone who owns this card is not to keep any money there, or at least no more them popcorn and chewing gum money. Ledger will probably wash their hands like Pilate did... https://i.imgur.com/CtPVmdH.jpg Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on December 09, 2022, 03:20:16 PM I've just read about an anonymous VISA card reloadable with crypto - USDT, USDC, ETH and some tokens: https://cointelegraph.com/news/fintech-company-zelf-launches-anonymous-visa-debit-card-with-crypto-recharge
Interestingly it's an USA company launching them (ZELF) and also interestingly (but in in a bad way) Bitcoin is not in the list of coins. I don't know how will this go (anonymous, hmmm), if anyone will get to use this, I'd like to hear details. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on December 09, 2022, 03:53:25 PM I've just read about an anonymous VISA card reloadable with crypto - USDT, USDC, ETH and some tokens Now they are claiming there is a delay for issuing new cards, but it sure looks stupid to support all this shitcoins and nft crap, and skip adding Bitcoin.I am also not sure how this can be called anonymous when I have to open US account with my name, email and phone number, unless I use temporary or disposable phone number and random name. Zelf website also looks scamish and they have weird .gg domain, so I would be very careful with this and not load more money than you are willing to lose. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on December 10, 2022, 01:18:07 PM and also interestingly (but in in a bad way) Bitcoin is not in the list of coins. They added an option on the "8th of December (https://twitter.com/zelfco/status/1600901317609652224)" to also deposit Bitcoin, but in connection to what dkbit98 mentioned yesterday, they just "released a statement couple of hours ago (https://twitter.com/zelfco/status/1601522467062763520)" claiming that their banking partner suspended their program [this must be a new record :P].Zelf website also looks scamish and they have weird .gg domain, I couldn't find the .gg domain that you were referring to, but their website [with .co extension] is no longer accessible.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on December 10, 2022, 01:59:36 PM They added an option on the "8th of December (https://twitter.com/zelfco/status/1600901317609652224)" to also deposit Bitcoin, but in connection to what dkbit98 mentioned yesterday, they just "released a statement couple of hours ago (https://twitter.com/zelfco/status/1601522467062763520)" claiming that their banking partner suspended their program [this must be a new record :P]. [~snip~] I couldn't find the .gg domain that you were referring to, but their website [with .co extension] is no longer accessible. Wow, indeed a new negative record. I guess that my wishful thinking that anonymous crypto cards could ever become a thing (and not a scam)... remains... wishful thinking... Oh well... too bad... Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on December 11, 2022, 04:57:31 PM I guess that my wishful thinking that anonymous crypto cards could ever become a thing (and not a scam)... remains... wishful thinking... I already came to terms that we will never see fully anonymous, reliable and legal crypto debit card, but if you don't mind about legal part and really want anonymous card that works, you might wanna check this Anonymous crypto loadable bitcoin debit card - No KYC - Private Card Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5244746.0). Based on the feedback it doesn't look like a scam and cards work, but they aren't cheap. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on December 11, 2022, 07:24:28 PM Based on the feedback it doesn't look like a scam and cards work, but they aren't cheap. I've read about that service at some point, I didn't know if it still works, however, I find it far too expensive compared to amounts I'd be using it with plus some effort to keep everything working; for me it doesn't worth the hassle. I mean that if one doesn't use it extensively then crypto ATMs or the KYC cards + the tax can easily get cheaper. Thanks though. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Poker Player on December 24, 2022, 02:52:37 AM Based on the feedback it doesn't look like a scam and cards work, but they aren't cheap. I've read about that service at some point, I didn't know if it still works, however, I find it far too expensive compared to amounts I'd be using it with plus some effort to keep everything working; for me it doesn't worth the hassle. I mean that if one doesn't use it extensively then crypto ATMs or the KYC cards + the tax can easily get cheaper. Thanks though. For me the biggest problem is not a question of money, the problem is that it is a crime, known as impersonation or equivalent depending on the country in which you reside. That card is in someone else's name and you are using it to use funds that the state does not know you have. If you are caught, you are going to have problems. It will be hard to get caught though if you do things right, but as with most crimes. You have to be aware of the risks. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on December 25, 2022, 11:57:41 AM Based on the feedback it doesn't look like a scam and cards work, but they aren't cheap. I've read about that service at some point, I didn't know if it still works, however, I find it far too expensive compared to amounts I'd be using it with plus some effort to keep everything working; for me it doesn't worth the hassle. I mean that if one doesn't use it extensively then crypto ATMs or the KYC cards + the tax can easily get cheaper. Thanks though. For me the biggest problem is not a question of money, the problem is that it is a crime, known as impersonation or equivalent depending on the country in which you reside. That card is in someone else's name and you are using it to use funds that the state does not know you have. If you are caught, you are going to have problems. It will be hard to get caught though if you do things right, but as with most crimes. You have to be aware of the risks. I mean look to most services here, they are allowing only US citizens, others just Europeans, UK, few other countries only... Well in this case, alternative services will pop up with higher prices for people spending much money. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Charlene777 on January 10, 2023, 01:49:59 PM which card today is best to add after Binance card as cheapest alternative second service for spending crypto in EU to use also with ATM in EUR? I think Advcash is a good alternative especially for Europeans since it is cheaper than the card available for the rest of the countries in the world.Otherwise there is Neteller but honestly I am not sure if you can spend directly crypto deposited there with their mastercard or you have to use a third party service for deposit. Advcash load to USD cards are no longer working. I guess EUR cards can still be loaded but they are only available to citizens & residents of EU, Israel, Turkey. Do you know of an alternative that provides cards to people outside the EU? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NotATether on January 10, 2023, 02:28:17 PM @Ratimov can you add CoinPayCard.net to the list? They have a working virtual debt card, and get also have an ANN thread for more details: ✅💳Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE - CoinPayCard.net 💳✅ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432781.msg61534511#msg61534511)
Note - I am not affiliated with this project. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Charlene777 on January 10, 2023, 02:54:09 PM Not only cryptocurrency cards are affected with the relatively low limits, but the regular ones issued by banks as well (albeit withdrawal limits are higher). For example, card issued by my bank has 5000 kuna daily withdrawal limit (approximately 660 euro) so its a little bit more than a double of Binance card. Big advantage of Binance card is that daily spending limit is 8700 euro which should be enough for 99.99% users. Its all probably about governments not liking the thought of us withdrawing money without them knowing on what exactly we are spending it. These are very good limits. I do not use bank cards at all and do not have bank accounts, I use only alternative solutions. The best solution that I found in my country is a card of one payment service, which allows you to withdraw no more than 1,780 euros per day, and no more than 10,700 euros per month. It is a pity that the Binance card is not available for me, so I have to use only such solutions. I used Advcash until 2018, it was probably the most convenient card for both shopping and travel, but it was also limited for my country. Residents of the European Union, of course, have a wide variety in the choice of crypto cards, this is a definite plus for them, there is plenty to choose from. I live in Paraguay. I can't find any working card? :( I went through the list and almost none are available outside EU, US, UK, and a couple of other countries. Paycent seems to be available but search results indicate it's a scam. Which cards can you recommend? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on January 10, 2023, 04:39:03 PM I live in Paraguay. I can't find any working card? :( I went through the list and almost none are available outside EU, US, UK, and a couple of other countries. Paycent seems to be available but search results indicate it's a scam. Which cards can you recommend? Advcash launched a couple of cards (Crypto world, and Global UnionPay) and then stopped shipping the cards. The last time I checked, they said they'll be available again soon. Maybe you can check their site or reach out to them for an ETA. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: examplens on January 11, 2023, 04:03:03 PM @Ratimov can you add CoinPayCard.net to the list? They have a working virtual debt card, and get also have an ANN thread for more details: ✅💳Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE - CoinPayCard.net 💳✅ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432781.msg61534511#msg61534511) Note - I am not affiliated with this project. I would not add them to any list, nor a free promotion, because they are closer to a scam than a trustworthy service. Check reference on his trust page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3521103), they are certainly not a recommendation as a reliable service. here we are talking about financial services, not about downloading e-books. self-moderator ann thread, and avoiding giving precise answers is not the expected way. in the end, they hide all the information about themselves, which further deepens the mistrust. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: CoinPayCard.net on January 11, 2023, 05:33:01 PM @Ratimov can you add CoinPayCard.net to the list? They have a working virtual debt card, and get also have an ANN thread for more details: ✅💳Get A Anonymous Crypto Debit Card | KYC-FREE - CoinPayCard.net 💳✅ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432781.msg61534511#msg61534511) Note - I am not affiliated with this project. I would not add them to any list, nor a free promotion, because they are closer to a scam than a trustworthy service. Check reference on his trust page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3521103), they are certainly not a recommendation as a reliable service. here we are talking about financial services, not about downloading e-books. self-moderator ann thread, and avoiding giving precise answers is not the expected way. in the end, they hide all the information about themselves, which further deepens the mistrust. We literally answered every question that other BitcoinTalker's had. They were questioning how we block blacklisted wallets. We answered that question multiple times in details. But I guess they weren't satisfied. There is no other answer we can give than how do work. If you read carefully, you can see that we answered literally every question that we're asked. But hey, it's a free forum. You can have your options, only time will tell who is trustworthy and not. We did our best, so far we keep building every day and adding new features. Maybe one day you will try us out. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: examplens on January 11, 2023, 07:14:56 PM We literally answered every question that other BitcoinTalker's had. They were questioning how we block blacklisted wallets. We answered that question multiple times in details. But I guess they weren't satisfied. not that you literally did not answer my question, but you actually deleted my post in your self-moderated thread. Quote There is no other answer we can give than how do work. If you read carefully, you can see that we answered literally every question that we're asked. But hey, it's a free forum. You can have your options, only time will tell who is trustworthy and not. when we find out about your trustworthiness, it will already be too late for some users. building trust is done by giving all the precise answers here, you decided on another, more dubious way. Quote Maybe one day you will try us out. you can't even be considered, as long as you hide vital information. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: CoinPayCard.net on January 11, 2023, 07:40:19 PM not that you literally did not answer my question, but you actually deleted my post in your self-moderated thread. you can't even be considered, as long as you hide vital information. when we find out about your trustworthiness, it will already be too late for some users. building trust is done by giving all the precise answers here, you decided on another, more dubious way. You are free to think what you want. I would like to hear from you, what questions we did not answer.you can't even be considered, as long as you hide vital information. Again, we don't hide anything, we just don't have our corporate information online. That's it. Even if we had that online, it won't make a difference. Our service is based on 2 way trust. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: HostFat on January 11, 2023, 08:23:38 PM https://fcfpay.com/prepaid-crypto-debit-cards/
No KYC From $50 to $5000 Fee: nearly 4.1% at the creation It is reloadable. I thould be able to be added to google wallet / apple pay with a US/CA number. (even with in europe ...) I tried with "amazon.it" and it works, so it is usable in europe. I didn't try the google wallet / apple pay thing, is there a good place to take a temporary us/ca number somewhere? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Charlene777 on January 12, 2023, 03:55:32 PM I live in Paraguay. I can't find any working card? :( I went through the list and almost none are available outside EU, US, UK, and a couple of other countries. Paycent seems to be available but search results indicate it's a scam. Which cards can you recommend? Advcash launched a couple of cards (Crypto world, and Global UnionPay) and then stopped shipping the cards. The last time I checked, they said they'll be available again soon. Maybe you can check their site or reach out to them for an ETA. Thank you. I have a card from them and it was working perfectly. However, they no longer allow funding to the USD card. They say they are fixing it but it's been a couple months. EUR card is still working but I cannot order one cause I am not a resident nor citizen of one of their countries. Do you know if spectrocoin or wagecan are trustworthy? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on January 12, 2023, 05:40:42 PM https://fcfpay.com/prepaid-crypto-debit-cards/ How did you find about this service and are you affiliated with them in any way?If I understand correctly this can only be used as virtual debit cards, but I see there is Card Billing Information with physical delivery address. I would like to see someone from FCF Pay team registering in bitcointalk forum and answering few questions, but on first sight it does look better than similar shady projects that appeared recently. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: CoinPayCard.net on January 12, 2023, 05:45:42 PM Let's do a shameless promo here :o:
CoinPayCard.net[/b]]CoinPayCard.net (http://[b) The CoinPayCard is an anonymous Virtual Visa® Debit Card that can be used to make online and offline purchases, worldwide. Available card plans: 1. Basic | $2.000 monthly spend limit Price: $99 yearly 2. Premium | $5.000 monthly spend limit Price: $249 yearly 3. Platinum | $10.000 monthly spend limit Price: $499 yearly Card funding fees: USDT: 4% + $1.50 More cryptocurrencies coming this week. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NotATether on January 12, 2023, 06:11:19 PM https://fcfpay.com/prepaid-crypto-debit-cards/ How did you find about this service and are you affiliated with them in any way?If I understand correctly this can only be used as virtual debit cards, but I see there is Card Billing Information with physical delivery address. I would like to see someone from FCF Pay team registering in bitcointalk forum and answering few questions, but on first sight it does look better than similar shady projects that appeared recently. Allow me to add that to my gauntlet as well. https://i.ibb.co/X89j3ZL/C2-EDB1-FE-E3-FA-47-E6-A8-C1-FC6-B161880-AF.jpg CoinPayCard.net[/b]]CoinPayCard.net (http://[b) Your BBcode is broken. Side note: how many of the cards on the list work with cloud compute corps? Maybe they indiscriminately classify the entire industry of crypto debit cards as VCCs and just block them all. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: HostFat on January 12, 2023, 10:07:55 PM @dkbit98
I'm not affiliated, someone suggested it on my blog. I tried it with a small amount of money, and it worked non "amazon.it", the italian market of amazon. I didn't try the google pay / apple pay thing. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Charlene777 on January 13, 2023, 02:12:07 PM Let's do a shameless promo here :o: CoinPayCard.net[/b]]CoinPayCard.net (http://[b) The CoinPayCard is an anonymous Virtual Visa® Debit Card that can be used to make online and offline purchases, worldwide. Available card plans: 1. Basic | $2.000 monthly spend limit Price: $99 yearly 2. Premium | $5.000 monthly spend limit Price: $249 yearly 3. Platinum | $10.000 monthly spend limit Price: $499 yearly Card funding fees: USDT: 4% + $1.50 More cryptocurrencies coming this week. 500 per year is so expensive! What is the currency exchange fee if you make purchase in currency other than USD? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: CoinPayCard.net on January 13, 2023, 03:29:43 PM Let's do a shameless promo here :o: CoinPayCard.net[/b]]CoinPayCard.net (http://[b) The CoinPayCard is an anonymous Virtual Visa® Debit Card that can be used to make online and offline purchases, worldwide. Available card plans: 1. Basic | $2.000 monthly spend limit Price: $99 yearly 2. Premium | $5.000 monthly spend limit Price: $249 yearly 3. Platinum | $10.000 monthly spend limit Price: $499 yearly Card funding fees: USDT: 4% + $1.50 More cryptocurrencies coming this week. 500 per year is so expensive! What is the currency exchange fee if you make purchase in currency other than USD? The platinum card has a spending limit of $10K a month. You can always start with the basic plan @ $99 a year. (Keep in mind, you can't upgrade a card) Paying in other currencies than USD is free, but keep in mind VISA decides the exchange rate. Visa Exchange Rate can be found here: https://usa.visa.com/support/consumer/travel-support/exchange-rate-calculator.html Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on January 13, 2023, 03:50:41 PM -snip- Do you know if spectrocoin or wagecan are trustworthy? I couldn't tell you much about Wagecan but for Spectrocoin, using them may not be a good idea: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=816438 And I could be wrong but I don't think the cards are available worldwide. I believe it's just some of their other services (exchange, custodial wallet, etc.) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: FCFAdrian on January 13, 2023, 04:26:00 PM Hello!
I'm from the FCF Pay team! Our fees are 6 USD + 3.5% to issue the cards. The payment is made through our own payment gateway and can be done in ~20 stablecoins + SHIB. To refill the cards, the fees are 3 USD + 3.5%. Monthly fee is 1.75 USD taken from the card at the end of the month. If the card falls below 1.75 USD balance at that time, it will be deactivated. But if you create or refill the cards from your FCF Pay balance, you will get a discount (at the moment it's 0.75%, but we may increase it to 1%). The cards are virtual USD cards, similar to prepaid gift cards, but they are tokenizable (they can be added to Apple/Google/Samsung Pay) by using a US/Canada number. Unfortunately, it seems that delivery to online SMS services fails recently. I suggest that you ask a friend in USA/Canada to help you by relaying the SMS validation code. It may take 10-15 minutes to receive the SMS. We can also offer physical cards companies/projects. For individuals we will start offering the physical cards in about 2 weeks. We do have affiliate programs: the easiest way is to create an account on fcfpay.com, share your affiliate link or create your own prepaid card widget/page to share and add a mark-up. For companies/projects that want to start their issuing program, we offer white label solutions. If I can help you with more information, tag me or drop by our Telegram chat. Have a great day! Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: HostFat on January 13, 2023, 05:08:48 PM I confirm that the FCP pay card works on google pay europe (so maybe even apple pay) by using this virtual phon provider :)
https://sms4sats.com/ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on January 13, 2023, 07:57:05 PM Our fees are 6 USD + 3.5% to issue the cards. The payment is made through our own payment gateway and can be done in ~20 stablecoins + SHIB. Do you support Bitcoin or only stable coins?To refill the cards, the fees are 3 USD + 3.5%. Monthly fee is 1.75 USD taken from the card at the end of the month. If the card falls below 1.75 USD balance at that time, it will be deactivated. Fees are not bad, maybe I would remove monthly fees, but I see now how some recent shady competition is basically stealing money from people. I'm from the FCF Pay team! It would help if you could create separate topic in forum for your FCF cards.The cards are virtual USD cards, similar to prepaid gift cards, but they are tokenizable (they can be added to Apple/Google/Samsung Pay) by using a US/Canada number. Unfortunately, it seems that delivery to online SMS services fails recently. I suggest that you ask a friend in USA/Canada to help you by relaying the SMS validation code. It may take 10-15 minutes to receive the SMS. Why do I need to enter my physical address with city for virtual cards?I understand why you need phone numbers for SMS verification, but I would consider adding some alternative way of confirmation. One more question, what exactly are this fees that shows up during card creation? https://i.imgur.com/taOuvAc.jpg We can also offer physical cards companies/projects. For individuals we will start offering the physical cards in about 2 weeks. I am interested for this cards.I can't find information about your telegram chat, and it's better if you write in forum when you release physical cards, with more information how to order them. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: FCFAdrian on January 13, 2023, 10:18:25 PM Great questions!
Sorry, I'm a newb at this forum so I don't know how to do quotes, so I'll just copy-paste and reply Quote Do you support Bitcoin or only stable coins? - At the moment only stable coinsQuote Fees are not bad, maybe I would remove monthly fees, but I see now how some recent shady competition is basically stealing money from people. - Unfortunately we can't remove the monthly fees unless we increase the issuing fee. Monthly fees are taken by the issuing bank to host the card accounts.Quote It would help if you could create separate topic in forum for your FCF cards. - Awesome! will look into it and create a topicQuote Why do I need to enter my physical address with city for virtual cards? - It's required by the issuing bank, but you can write anything.Quote One more question, what exactly are this fees that shows up during card creation? - Including fees or not in the amount that you select on the slider. For example, you can select in the slider 100 USD, not including fees and it will calculate how much you need to deposit to get 100 USD on the card. If you choose the including fees option, then you pay 100 USD and the system calculates how much you will receive on the card.Quote I am interested for this cards. - Are you interested to get 1 card for yourself or more cards for your company/project?Quote I can't find information about your telegram chat, and it's better if you write in forum when you release physical cards, with more information how to order them. Our community is mostly on Telegram. I found this forum by recommendation of HostFat (he bought some cards yesterday, tried to activate them, banged his head on a wall... I banged my head on a wall... We found that the issuing bank changed the APIs regarding the phone number format and didn't update the documentation, we fixed the problem... He was then able to activate cards today! Everyone is happy!)Will try to be more active here and give out updates. We will have an updates session on YouTube this Sunday. If it's OK, I could post the link to it and to Telegram. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: CoinPayCard.net on January 13, 2023, 11:21:09 PM Side note: how many of the cards on the list work with cloud compute corps? Maybe they indiscriminately classify the entire industry of crypto debit cards as VCCs and just block them all. With our card, they don't know if it's a crypto card. I don't think that there is a code for that yet. I believe the main issue is that they see the card as "prepaid" this would soon be fixed. And you would then be able to use your card on these platforms. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Ultegra134 on January 13, 2023, 11:50:24 PM Great list! Thank you for spending your personal time to come up with this thread. I hadn't noticed this topic before.
I recently issued Binance's card, which arrived within 2 weeks, free of charge. I'm not sure if it has been mentioned in the past; I looked through a page or two of responses but didn't see anything in regards to Binance's card. However, I'd like to address my experience with Mistertango a few years ago. Firstly, if I remember correctly, somewhere in 2017, they went through a lawsuit that shut them down for money laundering. They had to shut down a huge number of accounts, if not all of them, and their support was extremely unhelpful during that period. Fortunately, I was able to withdraw after going through a verification process to certify that I actually own the account to which I was wishing to transfer the money. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: CoinPayCard.net on January 14, 2023, 09:36:11 PM Update:
We just change the way how our platform works and we added new payment methods. We added the following payment methods: Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, USDC, DOGE, SHIB, BCH, LINK, BAT and ALGO (Monero will be added next week, after testing is done) Previously, you need to make 2 payments, 1 for creating your card and 1 for funding your card. Now we changed the flow. Our new flow: 1. Fund your account using crypto. 2. Buy a card using your account balance. 3. Top-Up your card using account balance. We also change the way you pay the fees: (FEES ARE THE SAME). 1. When funding your account, you pay the 4% fee. 2. When you Top-Up your card, only then pay the $1.50 fee. If you have any questions, let us know. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on January 15, 2023, 09:24:19 PM Unfortunately we can't remove the monthly fees unless we increase the issuing fee. Monthly fees are taken by the issuing bank to host the card accounts. You can give your customers the option to select how they want to pay the fees.Some may prefer monthly fees, and others could choose to pay fees for more months, maybe with some discount. I think the fees should be lower for digital cards. Are you interested to get 1 card for yourself or more cards for your company/project? No company is involved, I just want to get one or two cards for myself.One would be digital and one physical card when you release it. If it's OK, I could post the link to it and to Telegram. Sure it's ok, post it here and you can add the links in your forum profile (and in signature space with ranking up).Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: LeGaulois on February 05, 2023, 03:13:07 PM It's time to update the list
- Bitwala (aka Nuri) is closed after an insolvency - bitplastic doesn't exist anymore - Swipe is now a BaaS platform - TenX doesn't exist anymore - Blockcard is now Unbanked.com - 2gether doesn't exist anymore - Uquid Card is no more, it's now a shop - Jubiter is closed - Raxcard is closed, it's now a blog - Bitplastic doesn't exist anymore https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223719.msg53785007#msg53785007 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on February 13, 2023, 04:30:49 PM Bit2Me (https://bit2me.com/suite/card) [a cryptocurrency exchange in Spain] launched a crypto debit card recently:
- It's worth noting that "in the first stage, the physical card will be available within the Spanish territory only (https://support.bit2me.com/en/support/solutions/articles/35000212340-when-can-i-get-my-bit2me-card-) [this limit doesn't extend to their virtual card]", but there's also this: In which countries is Bit2Me Card available? (https://support.bit2me.com/en/support/solutions/articles/35000203200-in-which-countries-is-bit2me-card-available-) [I'm a bit confused if it's still in the first stage or not]
Note: My post shouldn't be taken as a vouch! Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: odez999 on February 15, 2023, 08:53:00 AM which card today is best to add after Binance card as cheapest alternative second service for spending crypto in EU to use also with ATM in EUR? In Croatia many people since crypto.com cards raised they fees and removed perks, moved to plutus for daily use ! They said SEPA-->REVOLUT-->plutus is the cheapest way to top up (I am not sure for withdrawl, is it same vise versa) But many use REVOLUT as mediator (middle man) for plutus. Because SEPA transfers in local croatian banks could be as much as 0.50 euro cents per transaction. So they are using REVOLUT to top up for current bills AND probably crypto .. Since it is cheaper than to go directly to crypto cards ... (in this case plutus) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: apliki on February 22, 2023, 08:35:59 AM For example, I use more than 2 years of Ibandirect visa cards.
They have virtual and plastic ones. The virtual cards you can link to apple, google pay. Supported cryptocurrencies are - Bitcoin, Ethereum, USDT, USDC, and Litecoin 8) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: LeGaulois on February 22, 2023, 12:43:37 PM Perhaps but you forget to mention you work for (or own) Ibandirect. Here you were looking to buy ads on the forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290327.msg55671333#msg55671333 Here, you were promoting the affiliate program https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301104.msg55857679#msg55857679 You have a direct link in your profile. There is nothing wrong to promote your company, but for sake, there is no need to fool people. I wonder if @Ratimov decided to abandon the list, or have currently no time and plan to do it when he will have free time, or something else... Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 06, 2023, 10:53:28 AM Bybit just announced the release of their virtual debit card (MasterCard). It's currently available for the UK and EEA countries only[1]
[1] https://twitter.com/Bybit_Official/status/1632682438827573248 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on March 06, 2023, 02:17:59 PM Bybit just announced the release of their virtual debit card (MasterCard). It's currently available for the UK and EEA countries only[1] The more the merrier, but they gonna have some tough competition in Binance, Coinbase and Crypto.com. From what I could see their spending limits are not bad at all, but couldn't find the most important thing (at least for me) and that's cashback percentage.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: HostFat on March 06, 2023, 05:02:42 PM Bybit just announced the release of their virtual debit card (MasterCard). It's currently available for the UK and EEA countries only[1] It is a virtual card, but it can be added to Curve card and it works on the POS.[1] https://twitter.com/Bybit_Official/status/1632682438827573248 Tested it. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 08, 2023, 07:56:14 AM It looks like a Dubai-Headquartered exchange called MaskEX also launched its virtual card a couple of days ago.
I couldn't find much information about the card on their website, but according to the press release, the card should be available for all ID-verified users[1] (which could possibly mean that the card is available worldwide but I could be wrong). [1] https://news.bitcoin.com/dubai-headquartered-crypto-exchange-maskex-launches-virtual-card-for-worldwide-spending-and-welcomes-ben-caselin-as-vice-president-to-drive-global-expansion-effort/ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on March 09, 2023, 10:39:28 AM After Bybit announcing launch of their debit card the other day, now Gate decided to do the same and issue their Visa debit card, initially for users in EEA countries. The more the merrier I guess.
Gate Group, the parent company behind crypto exchange Gate.io, plans to launch a Gate Visa crypto debit card through its Lithuana-based company, Gate Global UAB. A waitlist and registration process is open for users in the European Economic Area, according to a statement from Gate. Visa's head of crypto, Cuy Sheffield, noted that the payments giant "wants to serve as the bridge between the crypto ecosystem and our global network of merchants and financial institutions. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: HostFat on March 09, 2023, 04:53:03 PM Even Kucoin
https://www.kucoin.com/kucard Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: SFR10 on March 10, 2023, 08:40:27 AM but couldn't find the most important thing (at least for me) and that's cashback percentage. It seems that instead of rewarding their users through a cashback system, they're going to launch a loyalty program to give merch from their "own" rewards shop [launching in April]:
Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on March 10, 2023, 11:35:23 AM Even Kucoin Iirc they announced their debit card almost a year ago but I don't know anyone using it though as people (at least the ones around me) primarily use Kucoin for their no (mandatory) KYC feature.https://www.kucoin.com/kucard It seems that instead of rewarding their users through a cashback system, they're going to launch a loyalty program to give merch from their "own" rewards shop [launching in April]: Meh that sucks, who cares about their merchandise when others offer cashback. It's not like I would use them even if they offered 3-4% cashback, but still I don't think that's the best way to attract new users since competition is tough and you really have to offer something good to make people use you instead Coinbase/Binance/Crypto.com. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on March 10, 2023, 12:17:53 PM By spending 1 Euro, you'll get a single point and there's a limit of 12,500 points for each month [refer to the "latter part of this (https://www.bybithelp.com/en-US/s/article/Introduction-to-Bybit-Card)" page]. And they are probably going to convert those points in some worthless tokens, and since their rewards market is work in progress they say it's going to be able to exchange that points for their merchandise and items.So customers spending money with their cards will be able to buy ''exclusive'' bybit hats and t-shirts... .. what a joke :D I would seriously be very careful using any cards that are connected with centralized exchanges. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 13, 2023, 08:43:40 AM Here's another card[1] I found from a Blockworks article[2]. It's a physical card, and it's currently only available for Mexicans.
[1] https://bitso.com/co/landing/card [2] https://blockworks.co/news/mastercard-visa-crypto-debit-cards Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on March 30, 2023, 04:41:40 PM Foldapp just announced the expansion of its partnership with Visa to support more countries:
Bitcoin (BTC) rewards app Fold and Visa (V) have expanded their ongoing partnership. The U.S. payments giant will now serve as the exclusive network partner for Fold's prepaid debit and credit products in North America, Europe and Latin America, and the Caribbean, Fold said Thursday. I also reached out to MaskEX (keep in mind that it's a new platform) and they said that the card is available everywhere with the exception of Iran, North Korea, and Myanmar. More about the card and its fees: https://maskex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/9660895355421-MaskEX-Card-Holder-Agreement Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: HostFat on March 31, 2023, 07:54:17 AM I think that maskex is using https://www.hyperpay.tech/card/?lang=en cards.
EDIT: I see that both maskex and hyperpay are using https://customer.railone.io services. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: jack05 on April 13, 2023, 01:10:49 PM Hello,
It's getting more and more unlikely these days, but I'd like to ask if there's any ANONYMOUS crypto virtual debit card to pay online? A few years ago, there were far less cards on a similar list, but almost all of them offered anonymous option. Now with so many cards out there, I can't find a single one that offers that. :( https://fcfpay.com/prepaid-crypto-debit-cards/ No KYC From $50 to $5000 Fee: nearly 4.1% at the creation It is reloadable. When I tried to fill a card, it asked me for exact details. Are you sure KYC is not required or maybe they changed rules? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: HostFat on April 14, 2023, 09:34:25 AM When I tried to fill a card, it asked me for exact details. Are you sure KYC is not required or maybe they changed rules? What you write isn't verified with documents, you still need to use an us/ca phone number to even enable google pay.Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: jack05 on April 14, 2023, 10:34:09 PM When I tried to fill a card, it asked me for exact details. Are you sure KYC is not required or maybe they changed rules? What you write isn't verified with documents, you still need to use an us/ca phone number to even enable google pay.Sorry, you're right. The declared data is not checked in any way. (I mean no documents, so no KYC in practice) Phone number was not verified by them ;) Card works - I made my first purchase with it. Fee is not small, because with a top-up for about $51.50 (BTC) to the card, there is about $42 left to spend. Costs of anonymity ;) 8) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: LeGaulois on April 14, 2023, 11:29:52 PM The phone number is only needed if you want to add the card to google pay and alike. (And it needs to be USA/CA based) About the high fees, yep It may seem costly since you paid ~20% but that's because it includes the cost of the card ($6). Next time you refill it, you pay $3 balance refill action + 3.5% reload fee+ $2 monthly maintenance fee Let's say the next time you spend 100$, you will get ~90$. It's a lot cheaper with 10% And don't forget since the card is in USD, if you pay in a shop using another currency, you will have to pay the visa/mastercard fees (I'm talking about the FX fees) The problem to me is since I'm european and we have 3DS here, the cards are not compatible europe scam 😭😭😭 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: jack05 on April 15, 2023, 12:30:24 AM The phone number is only needed if you want to add the card to google pay and alike. (And it needs to be USA/CA based) About the high fees, yep It may seem costly since you paid ~20% but that's because it includes the cost of the card ($6). Next time you refill it, you pay $3 balance refill action + 3.5% reload fee+ $2 monthly maintenance fee Let's say the next time you spend 100$, you will get ~90$. It's a lot cheaper with 10% And don't forget since the card is in USD, if you pay in a shop using another currency, you will have to pay the visa/mastercard fees (I'm talking about the FX fees) The problem to me is since I'm european and we have 3DS here, the cards are not compatible europe scam 😭😭😭 Yes, I also agree with you. However, it is a virtual card, so it can be used not for payments only in euros, but for example, to buy domains for $ (or I didn't get your point) Looking at the percentage fee, the perspective can also be different when we use a larger amount: I haven't calculated it exactly, but I expect that if you fill card for $500 (not $50 like I did), the percentage cost will come out not 20%, but probably less than 5% (more / less) Still good enough for anonymity ;) EDIT: Unless you mean that in Europe such cards are no longer (theoretically) available ... That's true ... Europe regulates it strongly. Now the question is - is it good or bad ... for us? for the future of crypto? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on April 15, 2023, 02:37:13 PM Fee is not small, because with a top-up for about $51.50 (BTC) to the card, there is about $42 left to spend. Fees are a bit different from last time I checked, but they are not that bad.Costs of anonymity ;) 8) Good thing I heard for this cards is that they even work for Paypal, but I can't confirm this myself. It's important to know that nobody should use this cards to purchase any cryptocurrencies or gift cards with it, as stated in their terms this can result in your card being declined or flagged for potential fraud. I don't know why anyone would buy crypto with this cards, but better to read clearly before purchasing them. There is much better alternative CoinDebit that has lower fees, but sadly they currently work only in United States :P Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on May 19, 2023, 09:45:17 AM Bitpay is temporarily pausing its MasterCard and is planning to relaunch its program by the end of the year with another banking partner[1].
For the current cardholders, you have until 15 of June before the card becomes inactive. [1] https://twitter.com/BitPay/status/1659231785832546316 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: DaveF on May 19, 2023, 01:17:56 PM Bitpay is temporarily pausing its MasterCard and is planning to relaunch its program by the end of the year with another banking partner[1]. For the current cardholders, you have until 15 of June before the card becomes inactive. [1] https://twitter.com/BitPay/status/1659231785832546316 They already had their other partner before Metropolitan Commercial Bank that did Visa that was shutdown. This was the relaunch. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5253104.0 So this new one will be #3 Wonder what the reasoning is. However, with the Gemini CREDIT card you do get some nice perks. And with the Coinbase Visa Debit you also got cash back (well crypto back) with the BitPay you got nothing. So I can see this bing a point of contention between them. Because, lets face it. If you are going to pull a crypto card out of you wallet are you going to go with the 3% back or the 0% back..... -Dave Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Eternad on May 27, 2023, 09:45:53 AM I'm not sure if this card was already suggested here but I just notice that Ledger offers CL crypto cards for Ledger Wallet owners when I browse the Ledger Live. This card is available worldwide with 2% cashback every month. This is cool because the funds will be directly deducted directly from the ledger balance.
https://www.ledger.com/cl-card Also, If this will not trouble you, Adding the benefits of the cards on the list such as rebates percentage will be very helpful to choose a better crypto card. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on May 27, 2023, 10:08:50 AM I'm not sure if this card was already suggested here but I just notice that Ledger offers CL crypto cards for Ledger Wallet owners when I browse the Ledger Live. This card is available worldwide with 2% cashback every month. Yeat it has been mentioned like six months ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280997.msg61345568#msg61345568).This is cool because the funds will be directly deducted directly from the ledger balance. Someone will correct me if i am wrong, but I don't think that crypto will be deducted directly from your Ledger but instead you will have to transfer it to ledger card first, meaning that crypto is not in your custody anymore. Also, If this will not trouble you, Adding the benefits of the cards on the list such as rebates percentage will be very helpful to choose a better crypto card. Maybe you should have mentioned more details about it, like what's exactly neede to get up to 2% cashback etc. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on May 27, 2023, 10:14:31 AM Someone will correct me if i am wrong, but I don't think that crypto will be deducted directly from your Ledger but instead you will have to transfer it to ledger card first, meaning that crypto is not in your custody anymore. Correct. You can do everything from the ledger live app, but you still have to top up your balance. Quote from: https://www.ledger.com/cl-card 03. Top up the CL Card account securely with crypto using your Ledger wallet Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on May 27, 2023, 06:36:00 PM Correct. You can do everything from the ledger live app, but you still have to top up your balance. I personally stopped using Ledger Live app few years ago and now using Electrum instead. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on May 27, 2023, 09:06:27 PM I'm not sure if this card was already suggested here but I just notice that Ledger offers CL crypto cards for Ledger Wallet owners when I browse the Ledger Live. This card is available worldwide with 2% cashback every month. This is cool because the funds will be directly deducted directly from the ledger balance. People have to be crazy to apply for this ledger cards especially in combination with their upcoming (now paused) Recovery feature.For people who are interested in Bitcoin cashback there are much better options and some of them are even kyc-free, like virtual cards from The Bitcoin Company. There are Intenational and US only type of VISA cards with 2.5% reward, and they have a bunch of other gift cards with better rewards: https://thebitcoincompany.com/ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: DaveF on May 27, 2023, 11:46:20 PM unbanked.com is shutting down.
https://unbanked.com/unbanked-will-be-winding-down/ Not sure how many people here were using their service. But I know not everybody has gotten the official e-mail about them shutting down yet. I got one, but two other people who have accounts there did not. Could be they're sending the emails out in batches or they might have gotten eaten by a spam filter someplace. I don't know if their card was mentioned on this thread at all but I figured it's good to put this information out there. -Dave Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Eternad on May 28, 2023, 07:35:34 AM This is cool because the funds will be directly deducted directly from the ledger balance. Someone will correct me if i am wrong, but I don't think that crypto will be deducted directly from your Ledger but instead you will have to transfer it to ledger card first, meaning that crypto is not in your custody anymore. Thanks for the correction, The front description makes me overlook about that it’s direct transfer from Ledger but it turns out to be ledger live. I just read full description and it turns out that it needs to be top-up via ledger live. Correct. You can do everything from the ledger live app, but you still have to top up your balance. I personally stopped using Ledger Live app few years ago and now using Electrum instead. I thought that the problem is with my computer. My balance doesn’t sync even though ledger live recorded already the blockchain transaction on history. All thing is messy too when I try to connect my new ledger to the ledger live since it still detects my old device account despite I already reset it. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on May 28, 2023, 08:01:44 AM The front description makes me overlook about that it’s direct transfer from Ledger but it turns out to be ledger live. I just read full description and it turns out that it needs to be top-up via ledger live. If that was poissble it would automatically made it by far the best crypto debit card on the market becase you wouln'd thave to trust anyone with your crypto but unfortunately that's not possible.My balance doesn’t sync even though ledger live recorded already the blockchain transaction on history. All thing is messy too when I try to connect my new ledger to the ledger live since it still detects my old device account despite I already reset it. Many people had synicning issues, especially with Ethereum app. Add on that double spend problems that happened from time to time and you get a completely useless app and instead of Ledger trying to sort something as essential as their app, they waste time & money on that bad reovery idea. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on May 28, 2023, 11:40:26 AM For people who are interested in Bitcoin cashback there are much better options and some of them are even kyc-free, like virtual cards from The Bitcoin Company. There are Intenational and US only type of VISA cards with 2.5% reward, and they have a bunch of other gift cards with better rewards: https://thebitcoincompany.com/ For those interested in this card, I just made an account: You have to use Orbot or a VPN in order to be able to buy this card. It's strange because now that I have changed my IP, I can see the list of banned countries, but my country is not listed even listed there. The fees look good compared to what we've seen before. 0.00036978 BTC for a 10$ card (with the current preev.com rate of 27,190$). I haven't bought the card, so I can't really vouch for them but make sure to read the warnings on the app before buying. The card does not work everywhere (like in PayPal, Revolut, etc.) Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on May 29, 2023, 02:02:40 PM I haven't bought the card, so I can't really vouch for them but make sure to read the warnings on the app before buying. The card does not work everywhere (like in PayPal, Revolut, etc.) I know people who purchased cards from this website before and it worked fine for them.You don't have to use any VPN if cards are available in your region, but it is best to download their app for Android or iOS and check for yourself. Note that changing IP addresses could result in card payment getting declined in some places, so be careful if you are doing that, and first try with smaller amount of money. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on May 29, 2023, 04:17:01 PM I know people who purchased cards from this website before and it worked fine for them. You don't have to use any VPN if cards are available in your region, but it is best to download their app for Android or iOS and check for yourself. Note that changing IP addresses could result in card payment getting declined in some places, so be careful if you are doing that, and first try with smaller amount of money. I was actually trying to use the app and not the website. If I use my IP address, the virtual card doesn't show but if I use a VPN, then it shows but like I said, it's strange because that page also shows the restricted regions, and my country is not part of them. Have you tried them? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on May 30, 2023, 10:35:14 AM I was actually trying to use the app and not the website. If I use my IP address, the virtual card doesn't show but if I use a VPN, then it shows but like I said, it's strange because that page also shows the restricted regions, and my country is not part of them. Have you tried them? Yes I did play around with few offers to see how everything works, and I can send you ref code if you want 8)You even have the different offers for cards if you select different countries inside app, for example g00gle play giftcards are available only if you select few countries like United States, Germany, etc. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on May 30, 2023, 11:01:38 AM Yes I did play around with few offers to see how everything works, and I can send you ref code if you want 8) You even have the different offers for cards if you select different countries inside app, for example g00gle play giftcards are available only if you select few countries like United States, Germany, etc. I already made an account with them otherwise I wouldn't have minded using your referral code. And I was actually asking whether you used the card while shopping? Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on June 24, 2023, 09:52:46 AM I already made an account with them otherwise I wouldn't have minded using your referral code. And I was actually asking whether you used the card while shopping? Yes I did used it and it worked just fine.This is perfect you want to buy some digital goods that can't be purchased with BTC, becaue it still preserves some of your privacy. Note that this cards will not work for purchasing with paypal and similar websites, but I think someone said that it can be connected with paypal. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on June 24, 2023, 07:10:03 PM For those who are using Wirexapp: the company issued a statement[1] about possible outages in the EEA because the Lithuanian central bank revoked the license of UAB PayrNet (Wirex card provider).
[1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/wirex-may-suffer-card-outage-eea-uab-payrnet-licensing-issue Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 03, 2023, 11:30:24 AM LBank exchange is launching a new card in Q3 of this year. It's still unclear to whom the card is going to be available, although the title says "global". The card is also expected to not have any limits:
[1] https://news.bitcoin.com/lbank-launches-global-first-unlimited-crypto-credit-card-breaking-boundaries-in-cryptocurrency-payments/ Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: snipie on July 04, 2023, 10:38:02 PM LBank exchange is launching a new card in Q3 of this year. It's still unclear to whom the card is going to be available, although the title says "global". The card is also expected to not have any limits: Generally there is a list of countries not authorised to use credit cards, otherwise fees are the limited factors for using these services when they are very high.[1] https://news.bitcoin.com/lbank-launches-global-first-unlimited-crypto-credit-card-breaking-boundaries-in-cryptocurrency-payments/ The card will be available as physical but also virtual form which is pretty good. Hopefully it will not be restricted just after the launching due to restriction from the issuers... Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 17, 2023, 05:41:33 PM Gnosis just announced their new physical debit card (a non-custodial one)[1] which costs ~30 EUR. The card will first be available in the EEA countries and the UK and will be rolled to the U.S and some other countries by the end of the year.
[1] https://decrypt.co/148844/crypto-wallet-provider-gnosis-launches-self-custodial-debit-card Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 23, 2023, 03:40:01 PM Yes I did used it and it worked just fine. This is perfect you want to buy some digital goods that can't be purchased with BTC, becaue it still preserves some of your privacy. Note that this cards will not work for purchasing with paypal and similar websites, but I think someone said that it can be connected with paypal. Could you tell me which site you used the card on? I bought a card yesterday and tried to make a purchase from AliExpress but that didn't work. I tried a couple of other services but the same, card keeps being declined. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on July 24, 2023, 08:55:00 PM Could you tell me which site you used the card on? I bought a card yesterday and tried to make a purchase from AliExpress but that didn't work. I tried a couple of other services but the same, card keeps being declined. Sorry, but you can't use them on AliExpress, PayPal or any similar websites, I think I wrote about that before :PIf you want to buy something from AliExpress only way you can pay (other than using credit/debit cards) is with crypto on mirror website called AliBitress for slightly higher prices. I think AliBitress owner is registered and still active on bitcointalk forum, so you can try talking with him for more details, because I don't vouch for anything ;) TheBitcoinCompany cards can be used on googleplay or similar websites, but better read their FAQ page: https://intercom.help/thebitcoincompany/en/collections/3333956-frequently-asked-questions Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 28, 2023, 10:36:08 AM -snip- TheBitcoinCompany cards can be used on googleplay or similar websites, but better read their FAQ page: https://intercom.help/thebitcoincompany/en/collections/3333956-frequently-asked-questions Thanks but there isn't much there about where can one use the card. There are mentions of Google Pay, but that doesn't seem to be working either. I have also tried G2A, Recharge.com, you name it, but the card has been declined everywhere. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: dkbit98 on July 28, 2023, 07:26:42 PM Thanks but there isn't much there about where can one use the card. There are mentions of Google Pay, but that doesn't seem to be working either. I have also tried G2A, Recharge.com, you name it, but the card has been declined everywhere. I can 100% confirm that this card worked for people I personally know using g00gle play (I saw it with my own eyes), but I think this can all be related with IP addresses and locations/countries connected with this cards.Maybe you should check out @thebitcoincompany telegram group and ask for help there, maybe even with direct PM to owner or moderators if you don't like posting anything in public chats. Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: LeGaulois on July 29, 2023, 12:26:39 AM @OmegaStarScream
There are 2 things. There is a list of country where the cards don't work In Europe, it doesn't work because we (the EU merchants) are using the 3DS protocol and the buyer needs a phone number. The thebitcoincompany cards don't have a phone number tied On the website you want to buy if you don't see the logo "verified by visa" or "MasterCard SecureCode" but the usual Visa and Mastercard logos it may work https://payspacelv.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/secur2-300x149.pnghttps://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/kikAAOSwhOVXf7jS/s-l1600.jpg As for Google wallet the cards are often blocked recently Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: OmegaStarScream on August 24, 2023, 01:14:23 PM So it looks like Binance will no longer be offering their card to residents of Latin America and the Middle East. The users will have until the 21st of September when the cards stop working.
[1] https://twitter.com/BinanceHelpDesk/status/1694496033214976212 Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on August 25, 2023, 05:20:24 PM So it looks like Binance will no longer be offering their card to residents of Latin America and the Middle East. The users will have until the 21st of September when the cards stop working. Seems like that's not all as according to Bloomberg, Visa stopped issuing new Binance debit cards for their users in Europe since July and if that's true and something doesn't change I will have to look for another crypto debit cards in a few months when current one expires.Source https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/25/mastercard-ends-binance-card-partnership.html Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: DaveF on August 31, 2023, 11:53:50 AM Just announced and not much information but Bitrefill will be offering virtual debit cards for a bunch of countries soon:
https://www.bitrefill.com/card Not all the details are there yet, but it looks to be a semi sold offering from a good company. Not in the US so boo from me. But for others is might be a win. -Dave Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on August 31, 2023, 03:13:48 PM Just announced and not much information but Bitrefill will be offering virtual debit cards for a bunch of countries soon: From what I can see they basically covered EU countries as usual, just waiting now for the terms. Not in the US so boo from me. But for others is might be a win. Since Visa allegedly stopped issuing new Binance cards in Europe (still waiting for someone to cofnirm this) since few months ago and my debit card expires in 6 months, this might be a solution. What's even better, they said that they plan to release physical version too. Anyway, good news for us in the EU! Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: LeGaulois on August 31, 2023, 05:14:05 PM @Rikafip @DaveF
Better than nothing, but Europe has already many crypto cards here and there. It's will be hard for Bitrefill to compete with Coinbase, Wirex, ect... It will need to have a serious advantage compared to others and the only thing coming to my mind is a card without KYC (something almost impossible nowadays). It could be the fees but it can't work with zero fee that's for sure. So, there is nothing exciting for most people, + the card is not a physical one Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: Rikafip on August 31, 2023, 05:29:44 PM Better than nothing, but Europe has already many crypto cards here and there. It's will be hard for Bitrefill to compete with Coinbase, Wirex, ect... True, they will have tough competition here, but if Visa really stops supporting Binance many people will look for another option. By the way, is Wirex still a thing? I know they have been around for a ling tiem and that they wre one of the first crypot debit cards but I enevr met someone ac tually using it and I know quite a few crypto debit card users (majority of them use Binance).It will need to have a serious advantage compared to others and the only thing coming to my mind is a card without KYC Yeah I don't even hope for no KYC but cashback is something that we could see. (something almost impossible nowadays). It could be the fees but it can't work with zero fee that's for sure. So, there is nothing exciting for most people, + the card is not a physical one They do claim that physical version will be released soonQuote from: https://www.bitrefill.com/card We are launching the digital version of the Bitrefill Card first. If you own a recent phone, you’ll be able to add it to Apple Pay or Google Pay and pay with your phone anywhere contactless cards are accepted. If you prefer a physical card, you will also get a chance to request it soon Title: Re: [BIG LIST] Crypto Debit Cards Post by: NeuroticFish on September 05, 2023, 07:43:56 PM By the way, is Wirex still a thing? Wirex has troubles in Europe; their card license got revoked and they seem to have real problems finding a replacement. European cards don't work for some months now. So somehow Wirex seems to do big steps into becoming "a thing" of the history, at least in Europe. Title: Re: [2023 UPDATE] Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: DaveF on September 06, 2023, 06:07:27 PM You should move the bitpay card into unavailable
https://bitpay.com/card/ https://twitter.com/BitPay/status/1659231785832546316?s=20 The binance card is also unavailable https://www.binance.com/en/cards/ The Gemini card is not a debit card, but a regular card that pays rewards in crypto. -Dave Title: Re: [2023 UPDATE] Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: DaveF on September 06, 2023, 07:04:27 PM The binance card is also unavailable Where is that written? When I click the link I get Quote Earn up to 8% BNB cashback every time you spend EUR or crypto. Join the waitlist for Binance Card now. We will notify you as soon as they become available again. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/06/mFGbc.png I don't know if it's a region locked thing or not. Also here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/binance-card-shuts-down-latin-134305264.html for some regions, I know others were already down. The Gemini card is not a debit card, but a regular card that pays rewards in crypto. I know there are a few crypto credit cards on the list, as an exception. Dave casually hands a ton of work Ratimov.... How about a separate section for those cards that are either credit cards or fiat funded that just give rewards in crypto? i.e. Gemini and Fold and the others. -Dave Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: OmegaStarScream on September 18, 2023, 12:41:16 PM -snip- Regarding OneKey's card. It looks like it's not available for everyone yet. I just made an account and set a 2FA but then on the "account activation" page (where apparently you have to submit your documents), it says that I need an invitation code to continue. Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: dkbit98 on September 28, 2023, 09:04:05 PM PST Card (https://pst.net/cards) Hey man, do some better research before posting cards, this PST cards are obvious SCAM!They even scammed bitcointalk member Maris Lunt who sent coins from Coinbase, they have negative feedback, and there are several opened flags against them in forum. Ever since this incident they are missing from forum, and they will never come back. Read more information in this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461922.0 Flags against PSTNET: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3548015 Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: OmegaStarScream on October 16, 2023, 08:07:00 AM Just saw an ad from Thorwallet on Reddit. Apparently, they now offering Visa cards (only available for Europeans only):
https://www.thorwallet.org/card I haven't tried their card, but AFAIK they're legit and the project is backed by the same team behind Thorchain/Thorswap projects. Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: pawel7777 on October 19, 2023, 08:24:12 PM (...) ANN thread: [ANN] The Anon virtual VISA card, No personal information needed. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468591.0) That thread is now locked and the OP got some negative trust rating for allegedly not paying website developer. A weird drama and not a good sign :) But this kind of brings a question of how safe are some of those cards. Do Visa, Mastercard or others somehow verify whether those new businesses, offering their cards, are legit? Or can literally anyone launch their own Bitcoin card? Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: minotawr on October 20, 2023, 03:18:56 PM Binance Card is Dead, same as others who using "Contis"
Quote Dear Binancian, We wanted to draw your attention to the email from no-replies@contis.com below. Regrettably, you are among the small number of Binance users affected by the announcement that the Binance Visa Debit Card program is closing. You will no longer be able to use your Binance Visa Debit Card from 20th December 2023 UTC 00:00. Your Binance account is unaffected and will continue to operate as usual. This change only impacts the use of your Binance Card. In the meantime, where available, users can shop with crypto and send crypto using Binance Pay, a contactless, borderless and secure cryptocurrency payment technology designed by Binance, at merchants accepting it. Yours sincerely The Binance team ——————---------------------------------------- You will no longer be able to use your Binance Visa Debit Card from 20th December 2023 This email is to notify you that you will no longer be able to use your Binance Visa Debit Card from 20th December 2023 onwards. This is because the Binance Visa Debit Card program, issued by UAB ”Finansinės paslaugos ,,Contis“, part of the Solaris Group, is closing in two months’ time. Your Binance account will remain open and is not impacted by the closure of the Binance Visa Debit Card Program. Why will I no longer be able to use my Binance Visa Debit Card? UAB “Finansinės paslaugos ,,Contis“ will no longer be the issuer of the Binance Visa Debit Card program after the closure date. What do I need to do? On 20th December 2023, please destroy your Binance Visa Debit Card by cutting it through the chip and magnetic stripe. You don’t need to do anything else. You will not lose any fiat or crypto currency from your Binance account, because this update only impacts your Binance Visa Debit Card; your Binance account will not be closed or impacted. Refunds, disputes and complaints will continue to be processed as usual until the Binance Visa Debit Card program is closed and during the mandatory period afterwards. Further information regarding the process for refunds, disputes and complaints will be shared with you nearer the time. We recommend that you take action at your earliest convenience. If you have lost your card, you may order a replacement one up until 6th December 2023, and spend the funds from your Binance account in the Binance app as normal until the Binance Visa Debit Card program is closed on 20th December 2023. Note that card delivery timeframes can vary depending on international and local post providers. What if I need help? If you have any difficulties using your Binance Visa Debit Card before 20th December 2023, please contact Binance Customer Services for help via the Binance.com website. Complaints: Please contact the Binance team via Binance's live support chat on https://www.binance.com/en OR the Binance App. Kind regards UAB “Finansinės paslaugos ,,Contis” part of Solaris Group, on behalf of Binance. Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: dkbit98 on October 20, 2023, 06:43:54 PM
Please be careful and don't rush adding new cards as soon as they show up, especially if they are ''anon''. More about this lowlife paywithanon scammer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470574.0 Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: 348Judah on October 21, 2023, 09:46:02 AM Thanks Ratimov for always updating on this thread all the available crypto cards you have researched to discover, many people will find some of them very useful after which they have given a try, however, it is our own personal responsibility to make research on any one of them before using, this is at our own discretion in making such decision, i think it's quite a while now that i came across a thread on this forum on members asking for recommendations from crypto card users, when we have them like this, it is also our major responsibility in making a personal research on them before using any, thanks for updating up the thread promptly.
Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: ABCbits on October 21, 2023, 09:55:06 AM Please be careful and don't rush adding new cards as soon as they show up, especially if they are ''anon''. You misunderstand the meaning of this topic. This topic is not about the most trusted and proven services, it is an overview of all possible offers that are presented on the crypto debit card scene. Whether to use a card or not is up to everyone to decide for themselves, since this topic is not a recommendation, but an informational one, except in cases of outright scam, when the card does not fulfill its direct functions. In this case, I do not see any complaints that the PaytheAnon card has somehow stopped working and is not giving out money. But how about showing warning about on-going accusation and weird/shady behavior? After some member discuss about on-going accusation, they decide to lock the thread. Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: NotATether on October 24, 2023, 12:32:37 PM If you know of other forum cases with complaints about valid debit cards, please let me know and I will add the necessary note and card information. Why are you adding pictures next to the dubious cards, when AFAIK they don't have any real design in the first place since they are virtual? If Bitcointalk had some support for spoiler tags, I would've recommended hiding the entire third post in there, so that they would not be seen by default. Sadly though, that's not supported. Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: NotATether on October 26, 2023, 07:28:08 AM Why are you adding pictures next to the dubious cards, when AFAIK they don't have any real design in the first place since they are virtual? The strangest question possible. They have designs in their own applications. Can't virtual cards have a debit card symbol? All images are taken from official service websites, and not just drawn by someone. OK I can understand that, it's just weird that card providers make designs of their cards as images if the card is fully virtual. I know it helps for marketing purposes and brand image and all that stuff, I just wanted to point out that the design of the card is often used as a technique along with other visual elements of a website to make a card appear trustworthy to many people. (Whether or not a particular card is, though, is a completely different topic.) Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: davis196 on October 27, 2023, 10:41:03 AM Is there a connection between Paywithanon and Paywithmoon?
One guy, who left a 5-star positive review on Paywitmoon's Trustpilot page, states that Paywithanon is using Paywithmoon's server. Also, is paywithmoon active and functioning right now? They have stopped their virtual VISA service back in February 15 2023, but their website remains active. This seems weird. Title: Re: Crypto Debit Cards Observer Post by: jonaedbd on October 28, 2023, 03:03:09 PM Is there a connection between Paywithanon and Paywithmoon? Hi davis196,One guy, who left a 5-star positive review on Paywitmoon's Trustpilot page, states that Paywithanon is using Paywithmoon's server. Also, is paywithmoon active and functioning right now? They have stopped their virtual VISA service back in February 15 2023, but their website remains active. This seems weird. I am the developer of paywithanon. There are no connection between paywithmoon and paywithanon both of them are totally different system. I would suggest that everyone should stay away from paywithanon because they are scammers. Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468591.0;all Thanks Title: Re: ㅤ Post by: btcb3g1nn3r on November 09, 2023, 10:50:50 PM What happened with this thread title and first post?
Former Binance Card users, what are your next options? Title: Re: ㅤ Post by: examplens on November 09, 2023, 11:14:26 PM What happened with this thread title and first post? Former Binance Card users, what are your next options? The OP no longer wants to maintain this thread as well as several others he started. I suggest you start a new topic and ask a question that interests you. Here in this board or the exchanges (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=223.0) category. Title: Re: ㅤ Post by: NotATether on November 10, 2023, 04:33:40 AM What happened with this thread title and first post? Former Binance Card users, what are your next options? The OP no longer wants to maintain this thread as well as several others he started. I suggest you start a new topic and ask a question that interests you. Here in this board or the exchanges (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=223.0) category. Fuck this, I'll just re-create the thread using publicly available cache copies. Perfectly good list ruined because of someone's drama. Edit: Live. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5473572.0) |
