Gambling sites accepting bets from countries where gambling is illegal.

[Shasha80]

Because gambling is prohibited in my country, I have to play at gambling sites without any KYC procedures. And gambling sites that don't
apply KYC don't necessarily accept all users, There are several gambling sites that prohibit countries where gambling is illegal. Therefore,
you should first read the terms and conditions, before deciding to play on the gambling site. If it is true that the gambling site prohibits
the country where we are from, then don't force playing on that gambling site. If you still insist on playing gambling, can make our account
blocked and our funds frozen. If this happens it will be detrimental to ourselves.

[Mauser]

To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.

The TOS of the gambling sites has been the center of attention in most of the problems that I see here on the forum because many people even knowing that they are citizens of the USA continue to break the TOS of the gambling sites. If the person knows that they should not create an account on site X because TOS forbids it, why the hell does it create an account and then complain here on the forum because their money was blocked? I start to think that all gambling sites should write in big letters on the first page: "read the TOS before creating an account" I give reason to casino owners when they take certain actions, because it gets tiring to repeat the same thing over and over

Any gambler who is betting a lot of money should make sure to check the TOS of the casino before gambling. We shouldn't just rely on others to inform us about potential risk. However the TOS is no guarantee that things will go wrong afterwards. The problem if online gambling in your country is not allowed, is that you have no chances to clear issues though court. You are at the mercy of a casino. What if the casino decides to change their TOS afterwards, or what if the casino is getting pressured by your government to prohibit people from your country to play? For me the risks would be just to high to gamble any larger amounts.

[Sanitough]

What if the casino decides to change their TOS afterwards,

This is possible as the law changes from time to time so as a gambler we should pay attention to the TOS if we think it's vital.

or what if the casino is getting pressured by your government to prohibit people from your country to play? For me the risks would be just to high to gamble any larger amounts.

I think this one is impossible, a government can only pressure an operation within their jurisdiction, most casinos are getting their license in Curabao, if you are from other country, your government have no business anymore on pressuring casinos in curabao, what they can pressure is their people who gambles in casinos license in such country.

[imstillthebest]

Because gambling is prohibited in my country, I have to play at gambling sites without any KYC procedures. And gambling sites that don't
apply KYC don't necessarily accept all users, There are several gambling sites that prohibit countries where gambling is illegal. Therefore,
you should first read the terms and conditions, before deciding to play on the gambling site. If it is true that the gambling site prohibits
the country where we are from, then don't force playing on that gambling site. If you still insist on playing gambling, can make our account
blocked and our funds frozen. If this happens it will be detrimental to ourselves.

how come you can still play when gambling is illegal in your zone and you also said that a non kyc site wont accept users where gambling is illegal  .

may i know what site was that where you can still play because that will also help other users that have this problem .

 gambling is not illegal on my place and never been on a site where they restrict me , im lucky for that because i was also a gambler and i dont know what to do if im with yours situation .

[bunglor]

This is the common problems to those people who like to gamble but they are living in a place where most of the casino platforms are prohibiting them to use their service.

If I were in that situation where my government is considering gambling as illegal then I will just follow it as I will surely face some problems if I will not follow it. Using the sites that are not requiring KYC but still prohibiting the country where we live is still not safe to use even if we are going to use a VPN as our money is at stake because the platform owner can easily freeze our money once they will know what we are doing.

[DoublerHunter]

Because gambling is prohibited in my country, I have to play at gambling sites without any KYC procedures.

^ If you want to play gambling online even when it is restricted in your country, you may try to use another's people's identity outside your country and do your gambling's KYC under their name.  Also, you may try considering VPN to hide your true address as it will let you change your IP with the advantage of faking it. But always confront the gambling site regarding this matter if they will allow a user to use VPN. Nevertheless, why you are taking the risk on this kind of gambling sites that illegal, you can choose a licensed one that for sure all bets are regulated.

[Lanatsa]

Because gambling is prohibited in my country, I have to play at gambling sites without any KYC procedures.

^ If you want to play gambling online even when it is restricted in your country, you may try to use another's people's identity outside your country and do your gambling's KYC under their name.  Also, you may try considering VPN to hide your true address as it will let you change your IP with the advantage of faking it. But always confront the gambling site regarding this matter if they will allow a user to use VPN. Nevertheless, why you are taking the risk on this kind of gambling sites that illegal, you can choose a licensed one that for sure all bets are regulated.

Its not something ethical to be done on using up other identity just for the sake of your gambling activity.Yeah you can indeed make use of others ID's for KYC but it isn't really right to be done though.

When you do play on a site then its just right for you to ask out if they will neither accept or prohibit out on the country where you do live and most time it will really be shown up on their ToS
which we can anytime do read off.

If you do decide to proceed inspite of the cautions that had been said then it does mean that you've accepted the risk unless if you haven't read it up then don't get surprised
if something happens in near future and would really leave you no choice!

[Google+]

Because gambling is prohibited in my country, I have to play at gambling sites without any KYC procedures.

^ If you want to play gambling online even when it is restricted in your country, you may try to use another's people's identity outside your country and do your gambling's KYC under their name.  Also, you may try considering VPN to hide your true address as it will let you change your IP with the advantage of faking it. But always confront the gambling site regarding this matter if they will allow a user to use VPN. Nevertheless, why you are taking the risk on this kind of gambling sites that illegal, you can choose a licensed one that for sure all bets are regulated.

the risk is when using a fake identity but you get a lot of profit and have to do KYC or verify the identity used, it will be difficult, even though only a few gambling places do that, so I think you still have to be careful when using other people's identities.

[Rengga Jati]

It means that before entering a gambling site, we must know and learn the rules and regulations including the restriction in the gambling sites. We must ensure which country is restricted. Well, as in my country, gambling is illegal. I think there are also many countries that still not legalize gambling. However, many people from that country are involved in gambling sites because no KYC is needed. IN this case, VPN or other ways help them to play gambling although some sites of gambling sites may be restricted in their country.
About their problem and issue not be able to withdraw their funds, I think it relates to the T&C of the sites. That is why I said to learn and analyze it first.

[maydna]

the risk is when using a fake identity but you get a lot of profit and have to do KYC or verify the identity used, it will be difficult, even though only a few gambling places do that, so I think you still have to be careful when using other people's identities.

We don't have to use that site if the site needed us to do KYC because we can find another gambling site that doesn't need KYC. It is why before we playing gambling by depositing some money, we need to check their rule first, so we can know if they require KYC or not.

If our country prohibits gambling, and we use VPN to visit on the gambling site, play the games, and suddenly we win, that site will allow us to withdraw the money. Perhaps we don't need to withdraw all of the win money because that can make them check our account first before the process can continue.

[efxes]

Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.

However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.

To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.

this topic is a little fresh for me ;(  I deserve my $15,000 in deposits back from Cloudbet, this isn't fair.  But I did break the terms of service.  I hope they re-consider their decision to keep my deposits i made that day.

if you can show some support for me receiving my $15,000 in deposits back that day I'd appreciate it so much.

Here:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.6880
Here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277995.80

and please consider leaving negative trust for a company that is taking the deposits of people that are caught using a VPN to play on their site (i shouldn't have done it, but I feel that they shouldn't confiscate this absurdly huge amount of money which I can't afford to have stolen)
Please consider leaving a negative trust or flag until they release my funds here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563

[peter0425]

Because gambling is prohibited in my country, I have to play at gambling sites without any KYC procedures. And gambling sites that don't
apply KYC don't necessarily accept all users, There are several gambling sites that prohibit countries where gambling is illegal. Therefore,
you should first read the terms and conditions, before deciding to play on the gambling site. If it is true that the gambling site prohibits
the country where we are from, then don't force playing on that gambling site. If you still insist on playing gambling, can make our account
blocked and our funds frozen. If this happens it will be detrimental to ourselves.

how come you can still play when gambling is illegal in your zone and you also said that a non kyc site wont accept users where gambling is illegal  .

you can use VPN to enter sites even those are prohibited in your country and since those are non KYC site then you can easily play.

may i know what site was that where you can still play because that will also help other users that have this problem .

Just use google almost majority of the gambling site don't require KYC

gambling is not illegal on my place and never been on a site where they restrict me , im lucky for that because i was also a gambler and i dont know what to do if im with yours situation .

Now you already Know that it is possible even it is banned in your country .

[efxes]

Cloudbet is making a big noise now there are many gambling sites that freeze their gamblers accounts once they saw that they are registered on a country where the gambling site do not accept gamblers, to avoid issues do not register or use  VPN you will get caught and the hardest thing to accept is when your account was freeze when you tried to withdraw your winnings, imagine they allow you to deposit but they will not allow you to withdraw your earnings because you break the rules, it's like they are just waiting for you to win so they can freeze your account.

Again, this is what i'm facing.  Cloudbet has taken my deposits and is not returning them.  It is a huge amount of money, about $15,000.

Please if this situation upsets you, please leave a negative trust and adding to the flag on the account until the company returns the money I deposited the same day I went to cash out they KYC and froze the funds and it's been weeks and I still haven't gotten it back and I went into an emotional wreck.  I will never do this again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=154563

Consider leaving negative trust until they return the funds (if they do return them i will pm you to lift the community pressure).

Still it was my fault for breaking TOS, but it is still really cruel to take my deposits.

[Rodeo02]

Hi guys, this could be a great discussion for us to get some tips to help minimize the risk as although we are aware that our favorite gambling sites does not allow certain countries to use the site and yet we are still persisting to gamble. Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.

However, lately, I've seen some complaints from user on account getting blocked or funds got frozen because such user belongs to a certain country where listed in the site not allowed to gamble, so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.

To my fellow gambles, don't be shy to share your opinion, advises and experience so everyone will be aware.

this topic is a little fresh for me ;(  I deserve my $15,000 in deposits back from Cloudbet, this isn't fair.  But I did break the terms of service.  I hope they re-consider their decision to keep my deposits i made that day.

if you can show some support for me receiving my $15,000 in deposits back that day I'd appreciate it so much.

Here:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.6880
Here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277995.80

and please consider leaving negative trust for a company that is taking the deposits of people that are caught using a VPN to play on their site (i shouldn't have done it, but I feel that they shouldn't confiscate this absurdly huge amount of money which I can't afford to have stolen)
Please consider leaving a negative trust or flag until they release my funds here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563

You should read the terms first before playing witg that website. I know its big amount thats the reason why you always need to read everything you need to know before starting to play.

For negative trust only DT can give that, they will help you if they think its your right to have back your money. you have a thread already wait for them to come and listen to your explanation . For normal members of this forum they can only give feedback. Did you tried to post on cloudbet announcement about this? whats thier answer?

[efxes]

first i lied and said i was in mexico.

i felt bad for misleading forum members and confessed i played from USA in VPN.

Now awaiting cloudbet's response about how i can get my money back because before 2 years ago i had an account when USA was allowed on Cloudbet.  I had lost 2.7 bitcoins then.  Now I made 1.4 bitcoins but I also withdrew and then re-deposited.  I VPN'd in and now they want to take what i sent them that day, the 67 BCH sent.

It's confusing but I sent them about 80 BCH and went to withdraw 67 BCH and they are taking it because my account had profited more than that.  But my old account long time ago was down a lot of moeny to cloudbet, so i hope they pay me back.


At this point I am going to assume i'm not getting it back.  I only have $100 ro $200 left to my name, I trusted Cloudbet and they took the money from me, now I have nothing and no job, no income, i'm very scared.

any support in this case is appreciated.  I need the money back that i sent them that day.

[swogerino]

I think that the only solution around this is to use a VPN which gives you the same IP of a country where gambling is allowed.However other people can use the same VPN and the same IP to reach the same site as you and this can lead to multi account frozen funds.If you can buy an IP for a country which is allowed in the site you could play,note that this is the most costly solution.IPv4 has been depleted but an IPv6 costs less,however the site you want to reach should be able to talk to IPv6 which is still not the case in many sites nowadays.

[iTradeChips]

The person where his gambling money got freezed because of that issue definitely should have researched first if there would be consequences if he joined the said website and gamble on that website. If the website has no problem with VPN created accounts from those countries then that is good news for the gambler but if he did not know that the website has certain rules that they follow then all he could do is simply and hopefully make an appeal to the website to at least allow him to withdraw at least his initial money deposit and leave the site. 

[tyz]

In most cases TOS are not displayed well as it does not help in attracting gamblers. Gambling sites wants more gamblers so they'll just simply accept your bets regardless on where you are living as long as their system will not detect you but they could also implement the rules anytime they want and that's the risk pass on to the gamblers.

But this is also strongly dependent on how regulated the betting provider is. For example, Sportsbet has accepted German gamblers for years. Recently, every betting provider needs a German license to provide services to German betters. Since then Sportsbet blocks all betters from Germany. But this is also because Sportsbet is now officially operating in the UK and is therefore "regulated". All the others betting providers are located somewhere in small states like Malta, Gibraltar, Caribbean islands. Nevertheless, the blocks can be bypassed with VPN's.

[erikoy]

Yes it is possible especially gambling sites that are not that known like those gambling sites using cryptocurrency. This will help those users that wishes to bet without getting caught and that will just avoid the gambling sites that require KYC when you join. As much as possible KYC must be avoided.

We all know that every government had set different priorities and when it comes to like online gambling the governments are not that fully aware of those gambling sites that are running so probably they could just ban some sites in their data base for community consumption but never it will going to ban other gambling sites that are not that known. Beside you can use VPN so that you can access the sites anytime that will make you to get the chance of being stealth while browsing in the gambling site.

[maxreish]

Better to still play in an online gambling websites wherein your country is not on their TOR lists of prohibibited country.
Also, most of the players are capable of accessing the websites by the use of VPNs, right? That is why there are still players that are playing despite of the illegal protocols because there are still ways to access the websites.

But as far as the legalities are concerned, better to just stay away from those websites that aren't allowed in your country to avoid complicated and problems.