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[joniboini]

I want to buy Nano Ledger X from the official site but I am in the region of Asia (indonesia) where Bitpay is not allowed then how can I buy this hardware wallet with bitcoins?
I don't like any other payment options except bitcoin.

I'm from Indonesia too. I buy Nano X at a local marketplace with a good reputation. I have no experience buying directly from the official Ledger site and don't know if buying using Bitcoin will cause problems when dealing with taxes on imported goods.

As far as I'm aware Beli Bitcoin is the only official reseller available in Indonesia. They are available at popular marketplaces but there is no way you can use your Bitcoin to pay them. I assume because it is illegal to pay stuff with Bitcoin, so you're out of luck if you don't want to use fiat. You can pay someone with Bitcoin to buy and delivers it to you I guess if that is a reasonable alternative for you. Try to make a post on the local board and see if anyone is can help you do that.

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[Husna QA]

I want to buy Nano Ledger X from the official site but I am in the region of Asia (indonesia) where Bitpay is not allowed then how can I buy this hardware wallet with bitcoins?
I don't like any other payment options except bitcoin.

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As far as I'm aware Beli Bitcoin is the only official reseller available in Indonesia. They are available at popular marketplaces but there is no way you can use your Bitcoin to pay them. I assume because it is illegal to pay stuff with Bitcoin, so you're out of luck if you don't want to use fiat. You can pay someone with Bitcoin to buy and delivers it to you I guess if that is a reasonable alternative for you. Try to make a post on the local board and see if anyone is can help you do that.

In the past, Beli-Bitcoin did not sell one Ledger Nano X for retail. So you have to buy a certain minimum amount. Of course, the price can be lower than other sellers. If it's for personal use only, some hardware wallets can be resold or invite some friends to buy collectively (although this might be a little difficult).
Now I see they accept purchases even if it's one pcs. But the selling price is higher than at ledger.com.

However, as mentioned above, in Indonesia, Bitcoin is not allowed to be used as a means of payment. So if you buy from an official distributor, they don't accept payments with Bitcoin.

[joniboini]

Now I see they accept purchases even if it's one pcs. But the selling price is higher than at ledger.com.

I think that is understandable. Other electronics products are also more significantly expensive due to taxes, etc. I assume official resellers need that extra cut to make it profitable since they have to follow all the procedures to import and so on. I'm pretty sure this is more or less the norm for a country like Indonesia.

At the end of the day, P2P is probably browsiek only choice if he wants to buy with BTC.

[hZti]

Now I see they accept purchases even if it's one pcs. But the selling price is higher than at ledger.com.

I think that is understandable. Other electronics products are also more significantly expensive due to taxes, etc. I assume official resellers need that extra cut to make it profitable since they have to follow all the procedures to import and so on. I'm pretty sure this is more or less the norm for a country like Indonesia.

At the end of the day, P2P is probably browsiek only choice if he wants to buy with BTC.

Ledger and other hardware wallet manufacturers need to get some global reseller cooperations, for example with local electronic shops. People don’t like to buy from resellers, but I think this would be solvable with a secure and tamperproof packaging. Also Colcard and others are very hard and expensive to get if you don’t live in Canada.

[dkbit98]

Ledger and other hardware wallet manufacturers need to get some global reseller cooperations, for example with local electronic shops. People don’t like to buy from resellers, but I think this would be solvable with a secure and tamperproof packaging. Also Colcard and others are very hard and expensive to get if you don’t live in Canada.

They all have tamperproof packaging and it sucks for all of them, or it can be replicated for all wallets.
Tamperproof packaging is more like security theater than a real security improvement, but they also have online verification to prove authenticity.
Coldcard is cheaper than most ledgers and trezor T, I am not supporting Coldcard at all, but this wallet is neither expensive nor hard to purchase.

[Husna QA]

Ledger and other hardware wallet manufacturers need to get some global reseller cooperations, for example with local electronic shops. People don’t like to buy from resellers, but I think this would be solvable with a secure and tamperproof packaging. Also Colcard and others are very hard and expensive to get if you don’t live in Canada.

In Indonesia, there are still very few official hardware wallet distributors or resellers. Besides beli-bitcoin.co, one is ncrypt.co.id, an authorized reseller for several hardware wallet products, including ColdCard Mk4. The price (if converted to USD) is around USD 181 - USD 200; it is a little more expensive than the price listed on the official website, which costs around US 148. But I think it's reasonable, considering there are shipping costs from the manufacturer and taxes that apply in my country.

[LTU_btc]

Ledger and other hardware wallet manufacturers need to get some global reseller cooperations, for example with local electronic shops. People don’t like to buy from resellers, but I think this would be solvable with a secure and tamperproof packaging. Also Colcard and others are very hard and expensive to get if you don’t live in Canada.

It's actually interesting point. Buying hardware wallet in same shop where I can get new smartphone, TV or fridge. When it comes to physical shops, I'm wondering how many wallets in whole year shops in my location would sell. Probably it wouldn't be worth for them.
When it comes to online shops, maybe there is some people who ready to pay extra price to resellers and get faster delivery, but I still would prefer official store, rather than well known trusted local shop.

[taufik123]

In Indonesia, there are still very few official hardware wallet distributors or resellers. Besides beli-bitcoin.co, one is ncrypt.co.id, an authorized reseller for several hardware wallet products, including ColdCard Mk4. The price (if converted to USD) is around USD 181 - USD 200; it is a little more expensive than the price listed on the official website, which costs around US 148. But I think it's reasonable, considering there are shipping costs from the manufacturer and taxes that apply in my country.

I also live in Indonesia and know enough about hardware wallet sales in Indonesia. Of course, it won't be too interesting for those who don't know much about crypto storage. I some of the distributors or resellers you mentioned I also know and recommended getting original and certainly safe goods.

The price will indeed be more expensive because it has been calculated with shipping costs and import duty costs to Indonesia, it is worth-it without the need to buy from abroad again.

It's actually interesting point. Buying hardware wallet in same shop where I can get new smartphone, TV or fridge. When it comes to physical shops, I'm wondering how many wallets in whole year shops in my location would sell. Probably it wouldn't be worth for them.
When it comes to online shops, maybe there is some people who ready to pay extra price to resellers and get faster delivery, but I still would prefer official store, rather than well known trusted local shop.

It depends on the enthusiasm of crypto users in the area. in my city alone you will never find Hardware Wallet sold in electronic stores, it will not be possible. Because the majority of the population does not know crypto and only a few groups know crypto, but never need a Hardware Wallet.

In online stores, there are indeed quite a lot of hardware wallet sellers, but I am only interested in official sellers who have partnered with the hardware wallet manufacturer because the risk of receiving goods that have been used and the phrase has been known by previous users is very likely.
there are some people who commit such fraud.