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October 21, 2020, 01:09:43 PM
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Terms of service or Terms and conditions for some is the official written rules of a certain gambling site it is the like the official rules/agreement of the user and the player and if the user sign up on the gambling sites without reading the Terms and condition or Terms of service they automatically agree on the agreement of the gambling site might include the providing of KYC documents which most of us didn't like.

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October 21, 2020, 01:36:32 PM
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As for me, I don't really read those TOS because most of them are the same and we already know what's that for so I skipped it every time.
Not only on gambling sites but most of the Terms of Agreement I skipped all of them even when I want to play online games. Nevertheless, we don't really need to read those because we don't really transgress with their rules. Most of the time people skipped and don't wanna read it but there are some people who read them all in case they can find something usual on the terms.

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October 21, 2020, 01:50:53 PM
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I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?
In our time now?it is a NO because they are all the same but way back when i am starting to gamble online?surely i am reading all TOS of each gambling sites.

But now that i am only playing in my trusted sites so there is no need to do such IMO.









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October 21, 2020, 01:58:16 PM
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I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?
In our time now?it is a NO because they are all the same but way back when i am starting to gamble online?surely i am reading all TOS of each gambling sites.

But now that i am only playing in my trusted sites so there is no need to do such IMO.

I think until now they still have different TOS it is risky not reading it, you are thinking they are the same but you might not now there are some tricky policy on their website and you still managed to proceed in signing up to that gambling site.

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October 21, 2020, 02:22:25 PM
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I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?
In our time now?it is a NO because they are all the same but way back when i am starting to gamble online?surely i am reading all TOS of each gambling sites.

But now that i am only playing in my trusted sites so there is no need to do such IMO.

I think until now they still have different TOS it is risky not reading it, you are thinking they are the same but you might not now there are some tricky policy on their website and you still managed to proceed in signing up to that gambling site.
It might be risky that way but I have a trick though, I only read the reviews of each players to know what should be avoided or watch. Well, in my experience I don't read most of the ToS in every gambling sites that I played since I'm only playing to enjoy not to really make some money. So far I haven't had a hard time when it comes to the policy of their terms and conditions.

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October 21, 2020, 05:48:26 PM
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wow! I'm surprise with the poll result, I needed to vote to view it but I'm really surprise, as of now, 23 members says NO, while only 22 says yes.
The race is getting exciting, lol.. I don't know a lot of people also not reading the TOS.
Quite honestly I am surprised of the opposite, it seems a great deal of the gamblers here do actually read the TOS, while the No option on the poll is winning so far it is doing so by a small margin, if you were to ask me I would have said that something between 80% to 90% of the gamblers did not read the TOS and I am pretty sure this will hold true if we were to hold that poll and gave it to a random population of bitcoin gamblers, but it seems that in this forum we have a higher percentage of responsible gamblers and I am glad that is the case.
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October 21, 2020, 05:58:44 PM
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I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?
In our time now?it is a NO because they are all the same but way back when i am starting to gamble online?surely i am reading all TOS of each gambling sites.

But now that i am only playing in my trusted sites so there is no need to do such IMO.

I think until now they still have different TOS it is risky not reading it, you are thinking they are the same but you might not now there are some tricky policy on their website and you still managed to proceed in signing up to that gambling site.
It might be risky that way but I have a trick though, I only read the reviews of each players to know what should be avoided or watch. Well, in my experience I don't read most of the ToS in every gambling sites that I played since I'm only playing to enjoy not to really make some money. So far I haven't had a hard time when it comes to the policy of their terms and conditions.
For a well known or reputable site then you'll just surely need the summation of feedbacks on whats its cons and pros towards into its players.You can see out about
country restriction or some kyc and towards their payment methods and status, with that alone then you can already pinpoint if this gambling site will surely
fit out your needs or not.This is also my behavior towards my gambling activity where you can really find out by having only those basic information which
will already be sufficient if you would tend to proceed or not.

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October 21, 2020, 06:49:29 PM
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I might read TOS but more like skim through it, I think its more important to subscribe to the main forum thread for that site and any other feedback threads and see discussion of any particular sticking point in usage or rules like this.    Most often I'll sign upto a site but wait later for it to be more established rather then relying on it immediately for anything important or significant use, sometimes the lesser quality, flaky or short term sites become obvious in their intent over time.   My ability to decipher lawyer speak is not something I'd lean on to save me from alot of mistakes.
Same here I skip playing on website platforms and once they are established and have a good reputation going on then I can play there. It is more a case of "why should I risk" with new casinos because even if the TOS are transparent and good still the casino can cheat you.

Seeing the poll right now seems that 16 out of 34 users are not reading the Terms of Service of a gambling site which is I think is dangerous for them since you didn't know which agreement you accepted since I know that once you created an account you already accepted their terms and conditions maybe including asking for a KYC.
The truth is the poll might be even more one sided towards the NO if people are being honest because really who would read the long Terms & Conditions set by the gambling house? I personally don't read them all but I do visit it once to find if any anomaly exists and if there are ID proofs needed by the house to make my withdrawals.
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October 22, 2020, 02:22:49 AM
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It depends on how long does the gambling site has been operating and if there was any unsolved issues or on going issues on their site then yes I would read all about their TOS.
But if they have a good reputation and they has been on the industry for so long then I would only look if my country is ban on their site or not then skip or accept it all.

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October 22, 2020, 02:34:10 AM
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I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?
In our time now?it is a NO because they are all the same but way back when i am starting to gamble online?surely i am reading all TOS of each gambling sites.

But now that i am only playing in my trusted sites so there is no need to do such IMO.

I think until now they still have different TOS it is risky not reading it, you are thinking they are the same but you might not now there are some tricky policy on their website and you still managed to proceed in signing up to that gambling site.
thats what you think but why not read them all,almost the same just the pattern differ.

anyway thats my opinion and if you wanna read all TOS then do it no one is stopping you from doing that.

Yeah that is important specially for those consistent in gambling that wanted to get the jackpot or beat the casino houses.









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October 22, 2020, 02:39:19 AM
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To join any gambling website, it is mandatory to read the TOS. If you do not read the TOS then you will get into trouble later. I once deposited a few dollars on an online gambling site without a TOS and later when I went to withdraw, I saw that they wanted KYC. If you want to avoid such unpleasant incidents, you must read the TOS before joining.

You have another option to avoid that experience by not joining the new gambling site, and you can stick to your old gambling website, and you don't have to worry about that any matter. If you are curious about the new gambling site, you need to read the TOS and make sure you understand and know their rule to prevent the bad thing that can happen in the future.

We can join the gambling site, which doesn't require KYC, and I think we can found that many gambling websites here, so you don't have to try the new sites. That will be safe for you to playing gambling, and if somehow, you win the games and get the money, you can withdraw it anytime.
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October 22, 2020, 11:09:58 AM
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We can join the gambling site, which doesn't require KYC, and I think we can found that many gambling websites here, so you don't have to try the new sites. That will be safe for you to playing gambling, and if somehow, you win the games and get the money, you can withdraw it anytime.

We can certainly do that with ease, I'm playing with 5 or more gambling sites and never required to comply with the KYC requirement, that's the nature here, if they require a KYC from customers, then they are in the wrong place, crypto gambling suppose to be anonymous.

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Last edit: October 23, 2020, 12:33:34 AM by Swordsoffreedom
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Does someone here (preferably nitrogen officials) want to explain to me this new god awful rollover requirement?
If you deposit 0.01 BTC, bet for 0.01BTC and then win you are not allowed to withdraw because there is a rollover on the entire deposit (even though you bet the entire deposit).
Am I missing something here or are these new rules just botched?
The 1x rollover rule, to clarify, players need to completely rollover the deposited amount before being able to withdraw. If player deposits $100 and bets it all, winning $50, the player still needs to play the $50 before being able to withdraw.
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Sometimes applying rollover rules on bonus money is acceptable, if the bonus amount is too large. But really, I can't understand the reason for applying rollover rules over my "deposited money and winning odds money"! Huh You are not supposed to have any right over the money I have deposited. I strongly condemn this rule, You should highlight such kind of nonsense rules on your front page.

Look at the highlighted text, They did not highlight the rule of rollover on their gambling website, nor did they mention any such rule on the signup page. You can learn about these rules only on TOS of their website. So, what did you find out about? without understanding TOS properly you should not take such a risk on your money. If you want to avoid such kind of unpleasant incidents then not only online gambling sites but also offline casinos you need to know about the terms and conditions of the wagering.

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October 22, 2020, 12:56:39 PM
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But if they have a good reputation and they has been on the industry for so long then I would only look if my country is ban on their site or not then skip or accept it all.
But if you trust the site and you're going to deposit it's still worth reading the TOS you can read the important highlight we have a saying ignorance of the law or rules excuses no one, so it's better to be safe than sorry in the end I also sign up and to new gambling site out of curiosity and to check the features but if I decide to play and deposit here I definitely going to read some of the rules.


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October 22, 2020, 01:48:50 PM
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Honestly, no. But I am aware that reading terms of service of a gambling site is a must. Not particularly in a gambling site but also to others like installing applications, applying for a membership, etc. It serves as a contract between you and the site that's why you should check it by yourself. In terms of service of a gambling site, they will discuss all the rules and benefits that the user may access if he agree to the conditions. Reading this thread makes me more aware of checking every lines of TOS even if it is too long for me to read because ofcourse we will not know if we are being deceived if we are not going to read these terms.
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October 22, 2020, 03:19:44 PM
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I want to make a survey from gamblers in the forum if they are really reading the TOS of the gambling sites they are playing with.

Therefore, I request you to vote and give an explanation on why you voted yes or no?

I voted Yes, so definitely, it will be one prerequisite for gamblers specially in crypto to read and understand, specially if we are talking about KYC submission. And there are cases wherein the issues arises for gamblers specially when they are about to withdraw big amounts from online gambling sites because suddenly KYC was required. And then it goes to a circus, the gamblers open a scam accusations, and then it becames a he said, she said war.
You would really need up to read everything if you don't like to experience headaches and problems because if you have done some deposit and then they do ask out for some KYC or being banned due to violation then that would really be a big hassle.
Reading up terms doesn't really consume out lots of minutes but only a few and doesn't really hurt if you do just spend some time on reading it and at least you are aware on what are the sites rules and regulation which you will be aware.
Im surprised that 1 person above doesn't really care on reading up websites terms.

I agree.

Reading the TOS will save you from any headaches that you might encounter if you decided not to read it thinking all of the gambling sites have the same TOS or maybe you're just too lazy to read it. Since we're talking about TOS in gambling, I bet the reason why the majority voted for NO is because they doesn't care cause they never win in gambling in the first place in which they need to withdraw their funds.

The other reason might be because other's think that there's no point on reading it so early, read it when you are already facing a problem and that's more reasonable.
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October 22, 2020, 11:27:34 PM
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To join any gambling website, it is mandatory to read the TOS. If you do not read the TOS then you will get into trouble later. I once deposited a few dollars on an online gambling site without a TOS and later when I went to withdraw, I saw that they wanted KYC. If you want to avoid such unpleasant incidents, you must read the TOS before joining.
Honestly, I don't read all of the parts of the TOS. But I do read but only those important parts which I've seen where others have caught a problem. To avoid the same experience and problem, I always go through the TOS with the specific rule like in KYC, deposits and withdrawals.
Others are about the agreement you have with the casino. As for my experiences, I've never had problems with any of them but still read those important sections for me of the TOS.

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October 22, 2020, 11:39:53 PM
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Terms and Services of most casinos are long as a book and they are not entirely for users to read. Most of those terms are also for themselves to be safe from some authorities and on compliance with their license provider. There are some specific lines that are intended to the users as well. I know it's better to read terms and conditions of a gambling site but I generally join a site after a wide range of people do recommend it. I learn most things about it from others or hand on experience. Reading terms and services is like reading all the paperwork on an electronic paper. Not everything of it makes sense for the users.
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October 23, 2020, 03:14:51 AM
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I only read a portion of it because it's honestly too long most of the time. Sometimes, when I get too excited with the site, I only check the I agree box so I could explore and discover more about the site as soon as I can. However, I know that it's still important to know their terms of agreement. Maybe that's also one of the reasons why we're sometimes struggling with the withdrawal and in processing our funds.
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October 23, 2020, 05:10:42 AM
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I honestly don’t read them as well as I should. When it comes to terms of service these days, I think I’ve got at least 50 different apps on my phone and god only knows how many others things in my life that’s included some sort of TOS agreement. I’ve read the basic terms but sometimes not enough as I should.

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