French teacher beheded for anti-sharia teachings

[tvbcof]

Islamic fundamentalist are still a big problem in Europe. So far the European governments can't really deal with them or stop the radicalisation. In my opinion social media is the problem here. Terrorist can easily reach people all around the world and distribute propaganda. Just thus morning I read an article that Facebook can't control its website. Pictures of the dead teacher with his head cut off are circulating on Facebook and many users write positive comments towards the terrorist. Such behaviour needs to be banned and people who violate it should be held accountable. Otherwise the risk of young extremists trying to do something similar will just increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/

Justifies 'banning such behaviour' on the internets which, of course, requires a framework to do so.  Who could have imagined?

[BADecker]

^^^ This is the problem. People want freedom. Some want freedom to kill others. Some want freedom to ban information. Others want freedom to do just the opposite.

The only thing that makes sense, so that everybody can get freedom is, everybody and anybody can do anything and everything that he wants, as long as he doesn't harm another person, or damage another person's property.

But if somebody harms another person, or damages another person's property, that someone must be required to repay for the harm and damages. "Eye for eye; tooth for tooth; hand for hand; life for life."

Nothing else will work to make society livable.

[squatz1]

Islamic fundamentalist are still a big problem in Europe. So far the European governments can't really deal with them or stop the radicalisation. In my opinion social media is the problem here. Terrorist can easily reach people all around the world and distribute propaganda. Just thus morning I read an article that Facebook can't control its website. Pictures of the dead teacher with his head cut off are circulating on Facebook and many users write positive comments towards the terrorist. Such behaviour needs to be banned and people who violate it should be held accountable. Otherwise the risk of young extremists trying to do something similar will just increase.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/the-taliban-indoctrinates-kids-with-jihadist-textbooks-paid-for-by-the-u-s/

Justifies 'banning such behaviour' on the internets which, of course, requires a framework to do so.  Who could have imagined?

Just to go aside to the point you're making and your source for a second, when the US begun funding textbook for Afghani children that had anti soviet material in it, and during the cold war it made sense for the US to try to get the people under their rule to revolt (or at least, the people that were trying to take them over) At the time they liked jihad behavior because it led to issues for the soviets.

They laid the groundwork for this issue. The textbooks they sent to Afghanistan were copied by the Talibian and are still in a bit of circulation today.

[mu_enrico]

From what I can tell, Muslims don't have much reason to hate Christians very much

Well, it depends on how much they take the book literally. For example, Surah 9:123 can be used/interpreted in many ways. If you have a good family and your parents teach you about morality, you will have a good conscience to reject this passage's hateful interpretation.

Don't get me wrong, both Christian and Islam have a book that contains violence. The difference is, Christian seems don't take their book too literally (CMIIW). PS: I'm just a pundit, and this is what I observe.

[sensitivedeal]

christianity  was almost the same thing like islamic religion when the old testament is being followed but now the new testament brought grace, So I am praying that one day the era of grace will also emerge in islamic religion.

[Saltius]

Why was this being taught in schools?  Was there really nothing secular to teach about? Although its not ok to attack someone for what they express, its also pretty fucking stupid to intentionally provoke an entire religion just for the sake of being offensive.  

Knowing that there are crazy, murderous people out there, using cartoons of the prophet is asking for trouble.  and at what benefit?  Unlike abortions, bikinis, or rebuilding on holy sites, this kind of behavior doesn't even have a use other than pissing people off.

If showing a cartoon offends your religion, then the problem lies with your belief and not with the cartoon itself. France is a secular country, which used to respect the freedom of speech. Now justifying a murder, saying that the victim was "asking for trouble" is unacceptable for me. From what I have seen, Islamists are always on the forefront while claiming the victim card. Just look at the coverage of Uighurs in China and Rohingyas in Myanmar. But they never condemn barbarous atrocities such as this beheading. 

Muslims aren't the victims in China? Forced sterilization in concentration camps make you a victim, unless you're saying that they deserve to be there.

Islam has plenty of issues and their ideals are not aligned at all with western values. That doesn't justify grouping them and putting them through torture. You can find drone footage of Chinese soldiers lining them up and hauling them away in trains, practically identical to Nazi Germany. Go to the extremes of any religion and you'll find plenty of apologists. I think Islam ranks #1 in that regard because extremism is seen too often and you'll find people that take extremism very lightly (or at worst, justifiable).

Again, absolutely NONE of this justifies concentration camps and China should absolutely be condemned for doing so. Those people are the victims.

Maybe one day you will find they just deserve some camps or whatever form other people call them. Hope that would not be too late.
China's camps may be some sort of violation of human right. But I think democratic countries should have the ability to build better camps than China.

US once built Japanese internment camps During WWII, FYI.

[Tipstar]

Talking about camps, here's a look out on a camp captured by anti-jihadi forces in Syria.
Thousands of teenage jihadi brides and to be brides as well as to be jihadi fighters and bomb detonators are being held hostage.
We want them to reach on their target destinations, I mean the country they came from in Europe and around the world without any conditions.
Sky News did a good job spreading what the world needs to hear. If you don't obey us, We're going to slaughter you.
Don't pretend that we didn't warned you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW_7me1Nj7w

[Zilon]

This is an awkward mentality. This evil practice is so inhuman. How on earth will an imperfect man cast judgment on his fellow human based on a law that adds no value to human existence. Fine if we go by the law will the judge and the executioner be found blameless. We allowed religion crip badly into our world and has made life so unbearable for our fellow inhabitants. I think its high time most of this wicked prsctices be abolished for the security of each and every one of us.

Assuming this woman was to be the imams daughter will she have faced similar judgment. Let do things with the mindset that we all aren't perfect and man has the right to judge his fellow man no matter what his religious beliefs are.

[G.Seed]

Talking about camps, here's a look out on a camp captured by anti-jihadi forces in Syria.
Thousands of teenage jihadi brides and to be brides as well as to be jihadi fighters and bomb detonators are being held hostage.
We want them to reach on their target destinations, I mean the country they came from in Europe and around the world without any conditions.
Sky News did a good job spreading what the world needs to hear. If you don't obey us, We're going to slaughter you.
Don't pretend that we didn't warned you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW_7me1Nj7w

"If you don't obey us, We're going to slaughter you."

They are very kind if they warn before doing it.
"Israël" and USA have slaughtered a lot of children, but they have never warned before.



Thank you "Israël", warn us next time...

Anyway, you probably know "Israël" financed at least 12 "jihadist" groups in Syria. You probably know that is why those groups never attack "Israël" ?

Why don't you talk about people who pay terrorists ? Isn't it relevant ?
Is it because you have interest to support "Israël" ?
Please give an answer, don't be a coward. Thank you.

[Fortify]

Most religions seem to be fairly benign, but this religion is definitely causing a lot more violence and aggression than any other. It is sad that so many of these people have fled dysfunctional and abusive countries, but have failed to integrate into a much fairer society. Instead of seeing a system that works and adopting it, they would rather try to enforce their broken ethical beliefs on others around them. The sooner religion is minimized through extensive education, the better.

[Gyfts]

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Any sources for this? Israel is the only democracy in the region, not like they don't have rockets flying over by radical extremist that make up Hamas. Who the hell cares who they fund, even if what you're saying happens to be true.

[UmerIdrees]

Most religions seem to be fairly benign, but this religion is definitely causing a lot more violence and aggression than any other.

You need to better increase your knowledge first. What is India doing with Kashmir's for last 20 years and why is Israel killing Palestinians  and many
neighboring Islamic countries for last many years ?  India, Israel and even US are creating more violence's in the world than the Muslims.

[Twinkledoe]

This is an awkward mentality. This evil practice is so inhuman. How on earth will an imperfect man cast judgment on his fellow human based on a law that adds no value to human existence. Fine if we go by the law will the judge and the executioner be found blameless. We allowed religion crip badly into our world and has made life so unbearable for our fellow inhabitants. I think its high time most of this wicked prsctices be abolished for the security of each and every one of us.

Assuming this woman was to be the imams daughter will she have faced similar judgment. Let do things with the mindset that we all aren't perfect and man has the right to judge his fellow man no matter what his religious beliefs are.

I thought Dark Age was already over in human existence. This kind of situation should not be happening anymore. Religion will always be a part of us, but should not be the cause of someone else's pain anymore. This is very saddening that you will still be persecuted because of your religious beliefs. Can we just have freedom when it comes to this part of humanity?

[G.Seed]

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Any sources for this?

Yes I can provide you sources.
Israël slaughtered a lot of children :
https://www.countthekids.org/
Here you have the reality about which side is the more violent.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200716-remembering-israels-killing-of-four-children-on-the-beach-in-gaza/
Here you have the proof that Israël does not kill to defend but to terrorize.

If you don't care about arabs and you think they are like monkeys I can show you that Israël attacked USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

They attacked USA, they wanted to accuse Egypt to have a valid pretext to attack them.
Isn't it absolutely disgusting ?
There is no debate about this.
How can USA maintain alliance and give billion of dollars to such ugly traitors ?
Are they dogs or something ?
A lot of american citizen work hard all day long, and sleep on their cars because they have no house and USA give bilions of dollars every years to traitors ?
Are they stupid ?

Israel is the only democracy in the region

When you talk about democracy, are you talking about REAL democracy like in Athens in ancient times ?
Or are you talking about this shitty system when lobbies buy politicians.
USA does not work for American people, AIPAC (I mean the jewish lobby) owns USA and they are proud of this.
It is the same for France with the CRIF (french equivalent of AIPAC).
Are you so proud of this "democratic" system?
Choosing between jewish cocksucker Trump and jewish cocksucker Biden is your definition of democracy ? Really ?

not like they don't have rockets flying over by radical extremist that make up Hamas.

Thank you to let me talk about Hamas.

First: as I already showed you "Israël" army kills way more than Hamas.
Second : Hamas is a creation of "Israël" in order to give them a better image and justify their crimes.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

At the beginning, Palestinian resistance included a lot of christians (for obvious reasons, a christian cannot obey to those who betrayed Jesus)
that was a problem for Israël because they wanted to steal the money from occidental countries (USA, Canada, France, Germany ...) and those countries are more or less christians.
So they needed to create and evil terrorist "islamic" group.

Who the hell cares who they fund, even if what you're saying happens to be true.

We should absolutely care who fund who, this is the major key to understand what happens in the Middle East and in the world.
We should understand that yes, "Israël" is a false flag specialist, yes "Israël" creates "islamic" terrorist groups.
If we understand that, we can understand why those terrorist groups are killing muslims and christians but never attack "Israël".
And we can understand the interest of those who want a war between christians and muslims like in France Zemmour or Goldnadel, we can understand that it is the interest of "Israël" to see muslims and christians one against the other.

[bryant.coleman]

Most religions seem to be fairly benign, but this religion is definitely causing a lot more violence and aggression than any other.

You need to better increase your knowledge first. What is India doing with Kashmir's for last 20 years and why is Israel killing Palestinians  and many
neighboring Islamic countries for last many years ?  India, Israel and even US are creating more violence's in the world than the Muslims.

I am a regular visitor to India and I have family connections there.

India treats its Muslim minority better than any of the 50 plus Muslim nations treat their non-Muslim minorities. Muslim population in India has increased from 9% in 1951 to 15% in 2011. Almost all the religion-based violence in India has been directed towards Hindus, either by Muslims (Kashmir, Bengal) or by Christians (Mizoram, Nagaland.etc). There are regions in India, where Hindus have been completely exterminated, such as Kashmir, Mewat and Mizoram.

Despite all this, Muslims play an important role in Indian politics and bureaucracy. Muslims have been at the top-most posts in India, including that of the president and the CJI.

Now let's compare the condition of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh. In Bangladesh, the Hindu population has gone down from 28% to 8% in two generations. Hardly any Hindus remain in Pakistan. Cities such as Karachi and Lahore, which had Hindu majorities in 1947, no longer have any significant Hindu population.

[UmerIdrees]

India treats its Muslim minority better than any of the 50 plus Muslim nations treat their non-Muslim minorities. Muslim population in India has increased from 9% in 1951 to 15% in 2011.

There are around 8 million Hindu in Pakistan which is around 4% of the Pakistani population
You cannot deny the Violence against Muslims in India

There are regions in India, where Hindus have been completely exterminated, such as Kashmir, Mewat and Mizoram.

Kashmir is not the region of India, it's disputed territory on where India Abuses Human rights in Jammu and Kashmir.

I am sure you are not aware of Discrimination Against Muslims under India’s New Citizenship Policy

[squatz1]

From what I can tell, Muslims don't have much reason to hate Christians very much

Well, it depends on how much they take the book literally. For example, Surah 9:123 can be used/interpreted in many ways. If you have a good family and your parents teach you about morality, you will have a good conscience to reject this passage's hateful interpretation.

Don't get me wrong, both Christian and Islam have a book that contains violence. The difference is, Christian seems don't take their book too literally (CMIIW). PS: I'm just a pundit, and this is what I observe.

Seems insane to think that anti-sharia teachings are really something that people are WILLING TO KILL OVER. I'd have to say that as a Catholic, I do not think that we have anything that rises to that occasion that would be enforced by anyone.

Even like, being a homosexual isn't something that even extremists Christians will kill you over.

Really, really insane.

[coins4commies]

None of it comes close to a fraction of the violence that has been carried out in the name of Christianity. 

[tvbcof]

None of it comes close to a fraction of the violence that has been carried out in the name of Christianity. 

What is the most recent example you can think of?

[squatz1]

None of it comes close to a fraction of the violence that has been carried out in the name of Christianity. 

What is the most recent example you can think of?

Great question. Not a fan of people just randomly being like - "YEAH BUT CHRISTIANITY AND JUADISM DOES IT TOO"

Like shit, when it the last time you heard of someone in the Christian faith beheading someone because they're teaching something that goes against the bible? Or for the Jewish people, the torah. That'd be some frontpage news shit as well. Peoples heads are supposed to stay ON THEIR BODY.