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October 20, 2020, 02:07:43 PM
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Many have been killed by the corona virus that is spreading more than 7 months now that is making the government to do something to wake the economy up again in the country.
Many people are still wearing face mask and washing of hands to avoid the virus that is spreading to disrupt the economy of the country. Government are trying their possible best to make sure the vaccine is be ready to cure the virus that is killing the citizens anyhow in the country that is making them to rise the economy to normal.
I think the slowly of the economy will not make the pandemic worst as before because many strategies are on ground not to allow people to experience pandemic.

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October 20, 2020, 04:26:47 PM
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We have been like this for a few months now. We started to be under this quarantine when few cases are reported. Now, that the government fears that this Corona virus may collapse our economy even more ,they decided to open our economy. I know that health must be our first priority but still there are things we should not neglect. For me, government's decision to open the economy was okay. Many will be back with their jobs and little by little we will rebuild our country from this harmful covid-19. I don't think that slowly opening our economy will make the pandemic worse but citizen's lack of discipline may.
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October 20, 2020, 06:21:16 PM
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I have a theory that the reduced r-naught values on populations with high densities is due to people contracting the virus without developing symptoms., and then developing quite a resistance against COVID-19.

Most asymptomatic patients do not develop any form of uneasiness or slight discomfort on the average incubation time of COVID-19, as opposed to those who developed symptoms a week or two after being exposed. As such, the immune system of asymptomatic people have loads of time to develop an immune resistance against the virus until it is completely repelled, and convalescent plasma is developed by the body which is then relayed in the blood stream without the person even noticing it. In this way, the asymptomatic individual would have its own defenses up against the virus, further reducing the spread of the disease in a community setting. Also something to keep in mind that almost 96% of the cases recorded are from asymptomatic individuals, and the numbers could be even higher since most people who don't feel any symptoms just go on with their lives as if it's just a normal day. On paper this should even be scarier, as our models always projects on the worse side rather than the better side, but on an actual setting most models are, in fact, flawed in some ways.

Of course, there is still a threat of promoting community transmission all over again and a single superspreader event can cause all efforts to mitigate the spread to shatter after economies are re-opened. Then again, governments should consider that at some point, people have to go out, earn some money to get some food on the plate rather than keep them quarantined until a vaccine is developed. They can't just propose to give helicopter money to aid the sustenance of their citizens; it will even pose greater problems if not controlled. That's why the imposition of health and safety guidelines should be as tough as ever in order to get the economy back without compromising everyone's health and safety.

Public transport is really where thing would get murky and is a top candidate for a superspreader event. Governments should draft guidelines for people wishing to board or operate a public vehicle. By doing so, the risk of spreading diseases into different communities is prevented, and people would have some means of transportation to and from different locations.

Honestly there's a lot of things to keep in mind before re-opening the economy, but the gradual decline in r-naught values in some of the high-density populations makes me think about us controlling the spread successfully, or the governments underreporting cases to minimize the anxiety, paranoia and fear among the general public in order to support the immediate reopening of their countries to several facets and aspects of the economy.

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October 20, 2020, 09:16:12 PM
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Although the reopening of the economy might make the pandemic worse by causing a second wave, I do not believe the government has a choice but to do it.
During the lock down, just like OP mentioned, there was a downturn in the economy of many countries which in turn causes a lot of suffering for the people. Many workers were laid off, many were without pay, which in turn means they can't pay bills or taxes or other form of revenue for the government. If things like this happen, then the government definitely needs to find a way to restore things which is only by reopening the economy.
I think the only thing necessary to ensure that it doesn't worsen the pandemic is ensure that proper preventive measures are put in place and violators of these measures are sanctioned

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October 20, 2020, 09:59:31 PM
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The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?

Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?


No, but we can at least save the economy by opening it,
There is no other choice but to do it, or else it will be too late for the government to save the economy.

It will get worst but not as fast as how we encounter during the early encounter with covid-19. The thing is people know how and what to do right now, they also started to follow health protocols due to their fear of having the virus.


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October 20, 2020, 11:23:41 PM
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The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?

Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?


No, but we can at least save the economy by opening it,
There is no other choice but to do it, or else it will be too late for the government to save the economy.

It will get worst but not as fast as how we encounter during the early encounter with covid-19. The thing is people know how and what to do right now, they also started to follow health protocols due to their fear of having the virus.
If we will not start to make things in this new normal, then it would be hard for our economy to recover again. I guess people are already responsible enough to follow those health protocols that are imposed by the government because if they won't, they are the ones who will suffer the consequences. The second wave for this pandemic might be very possible but we should not let also ourselves to starve at this moment because of the fear of transmission of corona virus.

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October 20, 2020, 11:50:33 PM
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The question is that are we really going to improve the economy?

Or make covid19 transmission worst of their decision?


No, but we can at least save the economy by opening it,
There is no other choice but to do it, or else it will be too late for the government to save the economy.

It will get worst but not as fast as how we encounter during the early encounter with covid-19. The thing is people know how and what to do right now, they also started to follow health protocols due to their fear of having the virus.
If we will not start to make things in this new normal, then it would be hard for our economy to recover again. I guess people are already responsible enough to follow those health protocols that are imposed by the government because if they won't, they are the ones who will suffer the consequences. The second wave for this pandemic might be very possible but we should not let also ourselves to starve at this moment because of the fear of transmission of corona virus.

We need to live with it and there are precautionary measures has been given by the government already so people should follow all given protocols to make them safe. It's really hard to live with this but we need to adopt on new normal since if we let the lockdowns continuously happen for sure our economy will collapsed.

As you shouldn't let ourselves starve and act accordingly with the protocols since this is the key for us to survive in this pandemic.

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October 20, 2020, 11:56:14 PM
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There is no way around it, if the government continues to lock down its territory, the economy will run slowly and more people will lose their jobs, so new normal should be applied. The pandemic will get worse, more people will be infected until a vaccine is found. meanwhile, people are responsible for following health protocols, taking care of themselves, boosting immunity to minimize the chance of being infected with the virus.
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There is no way around it, if the government continues to lock down its territory, the economy will run slowly and more people will lose their jobs, so new normal should be applied. The pandemic will get worse, more people will be infected until a vaccine is found. meanwhile, people are responsible for following health protocols, taking care of themselves, boosting immunity to minimize the chance of being infected with the virus.
Actually all of the protocols mandated by the government are just minimum health prevention to which means that even if you follow it still you could get the virus. Why?

First, the virus could still live in the things that has been touch like the chairs, tables and comfort room. Anyone who touches those things that virus on it could get vmthe virus too or even transfer it to other things. Now there are actually hard headed individuals that are not really doing their things or just making the protocols as compliance for them not to get caught by the authority. Washing of hands and disinfect with alcohol usually forgotten so we can expect more cases to come in the future.
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October 21, 2020, 12:22:43 AM
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Stock prices doesn't necessarily reflect the economic performance of the country itself sometimes the prices of stocks are even not in its true value as it can always go overvalued or undervalued due to speculation and demand. Yes we can see that prices of stocks are recovering but when you look at the news you will see things related to unemployment, fiat currencies having high inflation, companies downsizing and even shutting down these things alone shows that the economy continually is getting hit by the pandemic.

Well.. stock index can't be the sole criteria for measuring the economic health, but it is among the most important parameters. But one of the disadvantages is that it doesn't take in to account the small and medium sized businesses which are not listed in any of the stock markets. The stock market indices should be taken along with other indices such as unemployment rate and GDP growth.

Why is it the most important parameter here? As far as I know stock prices are just that it could really mislead a lot of people since the prices can also be affected by speculation and like what I have previously said they can be overvalued or undervalued based by other people in the market. Basing the development of your economy based on stock prices will just cloud the other details. Yeah a company might be performing well in times like this that's why their stock is going up but it wouldn't say the same thing for the economy of the whole country.
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In my point of view considering that In my country most people are hard headed?yeah it can worsen the situation and make more infections a days goes by.

We knew how hard to detect each virus carrier unless being treated in Hospital meaning in each groupings either in groceries or in streets,Virus can be spread without anyone knowing they are already infected.
for me until the Vaccine is ready maybe better to remain the GCQ and let limited establishment to operate.









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October 21, 2020, 04:02:47 AM
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In my opinion even if the vaccine is not available if the government takes strict measures the effect of the virus can be brought under control governments of all countries are opening up everything to improve the economy so they have to take every step to protect. Legal action will have to be taken for those who do not comply with the health rules stricter laws will reduce the negative impact and citizens will become aware of the economy.
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October 21, 2020, 04:37:56 AM
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There is no way around it, if the government continues to lock down its territory, the economy will run slowly and more people will lose their jobs, so new normal should be applied. The pandemic will get worse, more people will be infected until a vaccine is found. meanwhile, people are responsible for following health protocols, taking care of themselves, boosting immunity to minimize the chance of being infected with the virus.

The government is already re-opening the economy because they can't continue to lock down the country without thinking about their people. If the lockdown continues, the economy will also stop, and many people will suffer without any chance to survive.

In this way, the government and their citizen need to responsible for their health. It is hard for all people, but that is what it needs to do right now. If they can cooperate, the infection will not increase. And the infection can decrease, which can help the government cure people who got infected by Covid.

It is a good thing if the government can slowly re-open the economy because that means the government gives business owners a chance to start their business, which can make the economy start running. That can provide the people to have a new job of joining in that business.
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October 21, 2020, 04:51:15 AM
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Our economy is going down because of this pandemic, many people are now getting hungry because of being jobless, our government is slowly planning to recover our economy, many establishments are now being open with restrictions, of course, they still need to implement proper hygiene, disinfectant, and social distancing and the capacity of the customer to dine in are only 50%. I am hoping that this move will not make the situation worse, it is just a risk movement for the government bt what would it be, if they won't allow people to work, they cannot support anymore all the people especially if this pandemic will live too long.

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October 21, 2020, 04:59:31 AM
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Why is it the most important parameter here? As far as I know stock prices are just that it could really mislead a lot of people since the prices can also be affected by speculation and like what I have previously said they can be overvalued or undervalued based by other people in the market. Basing the development of your economy based on stock prices will just cloud the other details. Yeah a company might be performing well in times like this that's why their stock is going up but it wouldn't say the same thing for the economy of the whole country.

Stock indices represent an important parameter, because a large majority of the economic turnover is accounted by companies which are listed in the market. What you are saying is true, as the stock prices can be affected by speculation. But this doesn't hold true for the long term. In 99% of the cases, the stock prices will go up only if the company is performing well. And in the absence of other parameters, the stock indices represent a somewhat accurate measurement of the economic health.
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October 21, 2020, 05:20:42 AM
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It all depends on the general people. If the government is opening the economy slowly and taking proper measures to make sure the virus spreading is still contained, then I doubt it is going to make the pandemic worst than it is right now. But the problem is the people. They don't listen. They aren't following the rules and doing whatever they want. General people are making the pandemic worst than the business.
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October 21, 2020, 06:17:05 AM
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It all depends on the general people. If the government is opening the economy slowly and taking proper measures to make sure the virus spreading is still contained, then I doubt it is going to make the pandemic worst than it is right now. But the problem is the people. They don't listen. They aren't following the rules and doing whatever they want. General people are making the pandemic worst than the business.
If only people would listen, follow the rules and maintain social distance...
An international lockdown was launched in March 2020, and this is the eighth month the public has refrained from complying with regulations. What happened was that the economic condition did not recover as before, as a result people had difficulty getting money to survive.

This virus can be resisted by strong body immunity, while immunity comes from nutrients and protein in food. That means, right now, what is more important than obeying the rules is that we must survive on nutritious food. The public is starting to distrust the government anymore because they are all aware that this virus has no end except herd immunity.

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October 21, 2020, 06:35:00 AM
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Diarrhea still kills a magnitude more people each year than does the corona sars 2 virus. So does Malaria, Hepatitis B (also C). Even tuberculosis is nearly as deadly. Yet the media is having a field day with this virus in particular because they seem to love exploiting the fear aspect. While the virus is pretty nasty as far as latent lung function decrease, there are many other worldwide conditions that are being woefully ignored while this story takes up 50% of the news cycle.

It's just like the 737 Max crashes that killed less than 400 but got tons of coverage. 1/3 as may people died from faulty GM ignition switches in equally horrific deaths and the media coverage was not nearly as sensational.
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October 21, 2020, 07:01:38 AM
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We need to move on and recover from the pandemic crisis so reopening the economy would be necessary. The pandemic situation will only get worst if people will not follow the protocols and if they will be hard-headed. It depends on how we follow safety measures. We still need to rise and stand again so we'll not get into deep debt.
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October 21, 2020, 07:54:49 AM
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Sooner or later the government will start to open up all sectors for economic reasons, continuing to close important sectors will endanger the country, many citizens are getting bored with the situation and choose to continue living with the risk of being infected with Covid -19, I think people and goverment have learn a lot how to handle this situation, so this is the next that must be do for all country.

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