September/October signature campaign season?

[NotATether]

Does anyone remember how in last March there were few signature campaigns going on? I counted about 9 on the signature campaign overview thread: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 09-Mar-2020]

Today there are more than 3x as many campaigns as there were in March: Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 13-Oct-20] (It was actually updated today). Most of the new campaigns started in September and October. In fact there are so many campaigns, a few of them still have open slots.

So, what do you guys think about this? Has the end of the year historically seen more signature campaigns than spring and summer? Any thoughts to why this time of the year is when services decide to launch signature campaigns?

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[cryptoaddictchie]

So, what do you guys think about this? Has the end of the year historically seen more signature campaigns than spring and summer? Any thoughts to why this time of the year is when services decide to launch signature campaigns?

I think its because the market now is improving especially on bitcoin price. People interestes to create business as the bull season might approach and many people are gonna be interested more to use bitcoin for such service like trading, gambling and any other types of adoption.

Ive noticed also the increase on signature campaign on service section and even on altcoin campaigns. This is a good thing for some active user as they can joined new campaigns.

[Little Mouse]

Have you checked signature campaign from last year September/October? That would make sense I think. In regards to that, I think bitcoin price has also relation with more campaigns here. With lower price of bitcoin, there should be lower number of campaigns I think.

[dkbit98]

There are several reasons for this, and despite what some people say, advertising in bitcointalk forum is still very effective way to spread the word about your business or new campaign you have.
If it wasnt profitable for them they wouldn't do it for years like some of them.
Bitcoin price is also looking bullish and with new stimulus deals it can only continue to be bullish for some time.
Don't underestimate the power of Bitcointalk forum and Bitcoin

[gentlemand]

It's little to do with the time of year. It's about the boom/bust cycle and returning from its doldrums which is what we've been doing for the last year or two. You weren't going to get an uptick in sept/oct 2018.

There may well be hay to make for the next 12-18 months. Then it all goes tits up and back to sleep again.

[GeorgeJohn]

Really signature campaign is taking another dimensions in the forum because I could remembered when I joined bitcointalk forum and how many signature campaigns that was listed in overviews thread its was not up to the numbers of signatur campaign existing currently in bitcointalk community today,  I come to know that we have numerous signature campaign platform, shall I suggest that the reason we are having so many signatures campaign is because we have multiplication of people who adventure into bitcoin, and secondly Btc is generating traffic across the world so cryptocurrency market industries is actually into competition. So these point is my personal views towards cryptocurrencies especially bitcoin since 2020.

[onecall123]

It's true the interest over bitcoin and sig campaign too has hugely help up just after the attack of Coronavirus, this is the thing that lead the prime role we're returning into the game. If you looks carefully out of those sig campaign a large portion of the gambling related. Since Coronavirus outbreak put sports in the long break so it's very normal it returns with more power.

[UserU]

With lower price of bitcoin, there should be lower number of campaigns I think.

I wonder why though? If the campaign pays out in fiat value which I see most do, it doesn't affect the rate at all (0.001 or 0.01 is the same).
 

[gentlemand]

I wonder why though? If the campaign pays out in fiat value which I see most do, it doesn't affect the rate at all (0.001 or 0.01 is the same).

A lower price equals less interest which equals less custom. The payment level isn't relevant. The amount of business they get from it certainly does. Everything fell of a cliff when 2017 popped and it's only picking up in recent times.

[OcTradism]

More new projects, more new companies join the forum, more campaigns. Last few months, there are a few new companies join the forum and some of them decided to begin with campaigns like Chips.gg.

In the list of campaigns you can see some new companies join the forum recently.

Another reason is the bull market can help companies to have more funds for promotions and they more easily decide to run campaigns.

[Lucius]

So, what do you guys think about this?

In my opinion, the problem is not in the number of campaigns, but in the fact that there are almost no quality members to fill them, so the criteria have been lowered considerably. Accordingly, pay rates are very low and I wonder how to motivate someone (especially Legendary/Hero members) to post quality for $30 or $50 a week?

Here is just one example I saw today, so ask yourself what this member is doing in one of the better paid campaigns? Writing a post like this after 2 pages of discussion is just proof of what I wrote above.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283185.msg55419905#msg55419905

[Rikafip]

In my opinion, the problem is not in the number of campaigns, but in the fact that there are almost no quality members to fill them, so the criteria have been lowered considerably.

I was just about to write the similar thing, as I noticed lately people that are probably not good enough for altcoin campaigns are easily getting into BTC campaigns. Quite the difference compared to beginning of the year when I saw quality members having issues getting into campaign and competition was much tougher for each spot.

Somehow I thought that increased amount of signature campaigns will push up the prices accordingly but I don't see that happening. At least not yet. Sooner or later that will have to happen if number of campaigns keeps increasing because those that are paying for campaign won't get the results they expected if their campaign is filled with 2nd rate posters that write nonsense. And the only way to attract quality is to increase the payment.

I keep hearing from veteran members that campaigns used to pay much more. What was the reason for that? Was it simply due different market situation, high demand for posters pushed the price or something else?

[Pffrt]

So, what do you guys think about this? Has the end of the year historically seen more signature campaigns than spring and summer? Any thoughts to why this time of the year is when services decide to launch signature campaigns?

I agree with Little Mouse. This has some relation with the price. I remember after the crash of BTC from 2017, in 2018, there were very few projects with signature campaign. Most were running long time and it was hard to get a place there. I barely have seen couple of signature projects to come within a month which now has been a lot.
Due to the price increase in BTC, it gets easier to pay $100 per week if you are in a BTC business. But when the price crashes, it will cost huge in term of BTC.

[$crypto$]

It might be for several reasons it could be due to the bitcoin bullrun factor, it could also be because the advertising on this forum brings benefits to the platform itself that does the signature campaign, even I don't underestimate if a promotion project on this forum is better with a lot the interests of the users of this forum are the many.

The service now has a signature campaign that means they reopen with the opportunities that have been prepared.

So this will be the most at the end of this year.

[cabron]

 

Probably they launched these days because they have already profited and do have a budget to pay for an advertising campaign. And it's about to shoot the bullrun.
Most of the campaigns are paying like $35-$50 per week in BTC may actually pay a little low in soon compare to the ones who are paying 0.0001BTC per post because of this bullrun. There are fewer projects today that are doing campaigns too

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Does anyone remember how in last March there were few signature campaigns going on?

I do remember there was a dearth of campaigns for quite a while, and I actually started wondering whether the entire concept of the signature campaign was going to die off.  I assume when you say March you're referring to March 2019, right?  I can't remember what the price of bitcoin was back then, but the ICO craze had worn off and IIRC there was just a general lack of enthusiasm around that time period.

And now here we are in 2020 and bitcoin is starting to boom again.  There might be some sort of correlation between bitcoin's price and the number of campaigns/bounties, but I'm just thinking out loud and have no data to support this.  What I do know is that enthusiasm for bitcoin and all things crypto has been growing for months now, so it's probably a time when crypto businesses would be more profitable and therefore more of them are being created and advertised via sig campaigns.

In my opinion, the problem is not in the number of campaigns, but in the fact that there are almost no quality members to fill them<snip>

Yeah, that's kind of always been the problem except maybe back in 2016-17 when there were so many campaigns that most of them were filled with wall-to-wall shitposters.  Oh, how I love the merit system and what it's done.

Accordingly, pay rates are very low and I wonder how to motivate someone (especially Legendary/Hero members) to post quality for $30 or $50 a week?

A member who can make quality posts in English probably wouldn't be interested in a campaign paying that little, but $30-50 per week is a decent amount of money in a lot of countries where English is rarely spoken.  It's the garbage shitposters who are heavily motivated by that kind of money.

[Rikafip]

A member who can make quality posts in English probably wouldn't be interested in a campaign paying that little, but $30-50 per week is a decent amount of money in a lot of countries where English is rarely spoken.  It's the garbage shitposters who are heavily motivated by that kind of money.

There are quality posters in campaigns that are paying up to 50 USD/week, even Legendary members who due various reasons ended up in one of those lesser paid campaigns. Problem is that there  are only few campaigns around that are paying more than that, and spots there open very rarely, and when they do, competition is tough and it ain't easy to get in, especially if you don't have shit load of merit earned in 120 days, as that is a big factor. In the end, 50 USD per week for some posting is not a bad pocket money, even in Europe and not only in 3rd world countries, so why not join if you gonna write on the forum anyway. Only problem is lack of good members to fill all those spots, so signature campaigns are slowly getting filled with subpar posters.

I assume when you say March you're referring to March 2019, right?  I can't remember what the price of bitcoin was back then, but the ICO craze had worn off and IIRC there was just a general lack of enthusiasm around that time period.

He referred to March 2020, and he is right. Just around that time I've started following signature campaigns more closely and I remember it being much harder than now to join any campaign.

[Findingnemo]

Whenever the price of bitcoin starts to increase, the number of campaigns are also getting increased as far as my observation since I am existence here.In 2018 there were no campaigns and in 2019 there are very less campaigns in the time period you mentioned.

More signature campaigns are sign of adoption in my opinion and now the adoption of crypto casinos are happening.

[Peanutswar]

Actually this is my second campaign and before I got the second one it takes a lot of weeks before it open, and on my prediction on the early times before I made into a full member rank it takes over a few months before they are launching another big campaign, and now by this few months there are a lot of campaigns starts, I think the one factor to is the increase of the bitcoin price just IMO. Also, it's a good reflection of our forum it gives a good market promotion to their platform.

The more the campaign, the more our effectivity to our forum.

[OcTradism]

I do remember there was a dearth of campaigns for quite a while, and I actually started wondering whether the entire concept of the signature campaign was going to die off.  I assume when you say March you're referring to March 2019, right?  I can't remember what the price of bitcoin was back then, but the ICO craze had worn off and IIRC there was just a general lack of enthusiasm around that time period.

There was very little campaign in 2019 because of the bear market. Market had spike in April of 2019 but at that period there are not many people believed the market already found its bottom. The growth of signature campaign did not rise well until early of 2020 and I believe that the DeFi hype and the crazy bull market shed a light for companies.

And now here we are in 2020 and bitcoin is starting to boom again.  There might be some sort of correlation between bitcoin's price and the number of campaigns/bounties, but I'm just thinking out loud and have no data to support this.  What I do know is that enthusiasm for bitcoin and all things crypto has been growing for months now, so it's probably a time when crypto businesses would be more profitable and therefore more of them are being created and advertised via sig campaigns.

To run big campaigns and long-live, companies need to have big funds and they obviously are big companies. With positive results from campaign back to their companies are a must criterion.

Yeah, that's kind of always been the problem except maybe back in 2016-17 when there were so many campaigns that most of them were filled with wall-to-wall shitposters.  Oh, how I love the merit system and what it's done.

Shitposters can not join any good campaigns today with one line posts. The ugly style is shitposters try to make their posts look informative by sketching it with non-sense vocabularies and grammar is broken. They don't know how to make succinct posts and don't want to try it.

History - signature campaigns and bounties on Bitcointalk
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