Unacceptable attitudes from new project teams

[Byakuga]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

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[articlecity]

I totally agree, it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution and it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase and they will be able to attract more participants in their campaigns.

[Zeehaxan]

The bounty managers need to create win win deals with the project teams to make sure that they are willing to distribute the reward tokens after the campaign end, the team can send the tokens to bounty manager that could be unlocked after bounty completion and then distributed and if the team does not have that level of trust in bounty manager then the reward tokens should be properly escrowed using professionals.

[VDraci]

Honestly speaking, enough is enough, you promote a project for months and a date is picked for distribution later it get postponed for months again and this keeps happening over and over, bounties frustrations alone is enough to quit promoting new projects, new projects are so blessed with teams that doesn't care nowadays, it's a good advice telling bounty managers to reform too.

[Mealea]

I think as a bounty hunter, you have a choice to selective when it comes to bounty campaigns. There are some campaigns that are escrow why there are some campaigns that are not escrow, we also have reputable bounty managers that will guarantee your rewards to a certain extent, we should make it a duty to go for good campaigns instead of useless campaigns.

[Genemind]

I had the same struggle before but there are some instances where we can't put all the blame on bounty managers. As participants and bounty hunters, we still have the free will to choose legit projects with a reputable and trusted team and bounty manager. I just hope that all bounty managers would be fair in paying their participants' effort and hard work.

[blockman]

Then choose a good bounty manager that doesn't have history of comprising bounty hunter's reward. They have their own style of campaign/bounty management and you can just avoid a bounty if you don't like the bounty manager's style of managing his/her bounties. You can also ask the manager if he/she can hire an escrow for the rewards. There were projects that have been doing this but you can't just see that most of them do it as mandatory.

[Johnyz]

The bounty managers don’t want to get involved if the project turn into a  scam project and this is one of the reason why they don’t ask for escrow and beside they are being paid in $$$ so they’ll lose nothing. Most of the managers especially the good one assure us to receive token on time, but when the distribution begin the developer is indeed hesitating to send the bounties. Managers already know this risk, but we still have to trust them.

[fadhilz123]

No one knows and no one guarantees that in the future the team of the project surely will pay the bounty hunters, maybe after the project success they choose to not pay the hunter and kick them all out of the group, so to avoid it, escrow is the solution. This is should be mandatory requirements before a new project launch their bounty

[makishart]

I do agree with this idea and this idea has already sounded by so many users too since a long time ago. What you can do to talk with the manager directly as the only the managers who can try to make a deal with the team. I heard that inthesilence campaign, bountydetective have already escrowed the reward since i have also participated in one of the campaign that's managed by them and get's a nice reward from there.
It should all of the managers use escrow.

[kawetsriyanto]

~it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution~

Do you think the bounty managers not responsible previously? And they don't do big efforts for the token distribution?
FYI, you won't know in detail what the bounty managers do behind the bounties. I know some bounty managers, the did very hard efforts to pay the bounty hunters. They worked hard since offering the team projects to have bounties, then share the bounties to hunters. Then, they struggle to give proper payments to the bounty hunters. But yes, most bounty hunters don't care about this, they only think about their payments to get as quick as possible.

~it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase~

I'm pretty sure all bounty managers know it very well.
Once the bounty managers can bring good bounties paying hunters with a good amount of money, then surely increases their reputation.
Moreover, if the bounty managers can manage the bounties well such as finish the spreadsheet fast and distribute the payment on time. You don't need to remind them, it directly gives big impacts.

[Kasabus]

~it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution~

Do you think the bounty managers not responsible previously? And they don't do big efforts for the token distribution?
FYI, you won't know in detail what the bounty managers do behind the bounties. I know some bounty managers, the did very hard efforts to pay the bounty hunters. They worked hard since offering the team projects to have bounties, then share the bounties to hunters. Then, they struggle to give proper payments to the bounty hunters. But yes, most bounty hunters don't care about this, they only think about their payments to get as quick as possible.

~it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase~

I'm pretty sure all bounty managers know it very well.
Once the bounty managers can bring good bounties paying hunters with a good amount of money, then surely increases their reputation.
Moreover, if the bounty managers can manage the bounties well such as finish the spreadsheet fast and distribute the payment on time. You don't need to remind them, it directly gives big impacts.

I think bounty managers are already responsible enought about their own obligations towards those bounty hunters who made efforts for the promotion of the project. Reputable managers should not be asked anymore about escrowing because they knew already what's the best thing to do. But if you fall on a bounty manager that does not pay rewards, might as well question him about escrowing.

[Kemarit]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

As much as I agree with this, bounty managers hands are also tied. If the projects doesn't want to escrow so what can they do about it? They are just a facilitator and they themselves are just one victim together with bounty hunters is some shit happens on the campaign.

And I'm sure there could be some bounty managers who are doing some escrow already, but I doubt majority can follow because it's beyond their control. And you don't need to remind this as well specially for experience managers.

[LogitechMouse]

I know the feeling that the bounty hunters aren't paid because of their effort and time that they gave to advertise the project.
The only thing is that, what the bounty campaign manager is doing is to just manage the campaign, compute the number of tokens they will give to hunters and that's it.

Escrow?? It will depend on the team. I would be happy if every bounty campaign is like that but it isn't so there is nothing we can do about it. Not paying the bounty hunters isn't fault of the bounty campaign manager but it is the fault of the team of the project.

I see one solution with this. The team will give the total bounty rewards to the campaign manager and give him some ETH for the transaction fee when the manager will distribute the token to the bounty hunter. In this process it will lessen at least the number of bounty hunters that will not be paid unless the campaign manager will run with the token and ETH or the team will disagree with this.

[tsaroz]

Escrow is a great choice, but many bounty Managers haven't been able to get it. As only the firmness of a BM is needed, like a BM that threatens to make a SCAM Thread if the payment for the Bounty Hunter is not paid immediately, that's a form of responsibility and firmnes

One of the reason for it is bounty managers themselves are not professional enough. When there are rookie bounty manager running a bounty, they are ready to compromise in most things. And another reason is greed, the once popular bounty manager atriz saw himself fall from fame just because he thought it was good to keep promoting a scam even after he'd realized it is. A professional bounty manager should always escrow the rewards wherever possible and stop promoting anything that's know to be a scam.

[crzy]

Good project should always fulfill and perform base on their promise date, though some problems may occur but as much as possible, they have to do everything to pay on time. We cannot blame the managers for not accepting escrow because that's another job for them and the blame is on your side for sure, hunters are too aggressive most of the time, so managers are also thinking about their reputation.

[rat03gopoh]

This is good advice, but if you just hope without pressing them, you can't do anything even if they aren't willing to escrow. If you want to start a change, then apply it from yourself.
Avoid bounties that don't escrow then create groups or moves to get other hunters to care about this.

[istiak2277]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I agree with you on this matter but the fact is now there are too many bounty managers than there is a new project. And it's not very hard for the project owners to find someone who will manage their project without Escrow with lower payments. So we can not prevent this but if top-rated bounty manager sticks to these rules then escrowed will be a trend in bounty campaign if some project successfully does that.

[btc-facebook]

This problem has become a common problem that has never been resolved, the problem is no one cares about this,
I just hope the bitcointalk staff will initiate this step, because if there are special rules about this, I guess all projects will inevitably follow it,
if necessary all well-known forums create discussions about this, so that all projects have no other choice but to agree, I am sure this will be successful because all projects need forums to be known by many people.

[Mulann2]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Very true, this is becoming too much, most bm are just too self centered, they only care about their payment and not that of hunters who do the work, all alts campaign should be subjected to using escrow to promote their campaign otherwise to accept the job, it doesn't matter if the token is tradeable or not,  they should escrow it to avoid having second thoughts at the end,
We have seen too many of this cases that it is now a thing of concern, I hope bm's will yield this advice.

[Coroline]

The fault of people today is still supporting what should not be supported as the OP explained. You can't really blame the Bounty manager, because they already get paid differently than you. Do what rat03gopoh suggests, it will prove that there is an increase in the quality of distribution to the bounty mechanism in this forum

This is good advice, but if you just hope without pressing them, you can't do anything even if they aren't willing to escrow. If you want to start a change, then apply it from yourself.
Avoid bounties that don't escrow then create groups or moves to get other hunters to care about this.

One more thing to remember is that the bounty manager will not obey the bounty hunter who does not provide benefits, but the bounty manager still needs the existence of a bounty hunter to enliven the campaign.

Make a circle that fits your idea, and get started

[Onika84]

I rarely find bounty campaigns that perform escrow, for openness and responsibility. And often bounty participants get the stigma that they are the ones who make the token price drop dramatically. sometimes this is true, but the team should not treat the bounty campaign as a "game".

[JeffBrad12]

I rarely find bounty campaigns that perform escrow, for openness and responsibility. And often bounty participants get the stigma that they are the ones who make the token price drop dramatically. sometimes this is true, but the team should not treat the bounty campaign as a "game".

You could found some bounties that have already used the escrow. I think that needs time for the manager to try to apply this to the agreement with the team to escrow the coin or token. It has already discussed so many times if the hunters are not the factors who have already made the dumped for the price. So many coins were getting dumped without even distribute the bounty.

Escrow should become a new mandatory for any new campaign.

[meanwords]

I think what's really stopping most of the bounty campaign managers on getting an escrow is that projects needs to pay for it and the bounty campaign manager market is pretty saturated. There's a lot of bounty managers out there and probably managers who doesn't ask for escrow is most likely to be picked by projects who are stingy (You know what I mean).

I think what we should do is to not join those campaigns that is not escrowed. Projects will be forced to comply with the people. But reality will just slap us in the face, not many bounty hunters will do this.

[smyslov]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

It really is unacceptable and this kind of bounty managers should be tagged, they are responsible for their bounty hunters, it's not easy to do bounty hunting are spending time electricity and internet connection and they are promised to get paid, escrow is good I have seen escrow made by some bounty hunters, I hope it's going to be mandatory to do escrow so all bounty hunters will be satisfied and continue to work for new projects.

[thesmallgod]

It is my conviction that the point you have raised is valid and will save many hunters from not getting their token. From my own experience, this does not stop team from still cheating hunters. For some reason, some of them usually locked bounty hunters token to a smart contract address so you wont still have control. I have witnessed alot of this in the past in some bounty hunting platform such as bountyhive.

[Kupid002]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

This is the problem more of the bounty manager that you can find in bounties section are mostly newbie so I don't think they make this option to use escrow for tokens payment . that will only work if the manager are known here even the project it self will never trust their tokens to managers even the account have possitive trust in it.they can easily sell that tokens if they have value already so using manager as escrow also have a risk.maybe if they will hired trusted escrow on this forum.

[pilosopotasyo]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Many bounty managers and project administrator are locking the tokens for a very long time, one example of this is the token Emirex Token they locked the token for ten months and now it's losses it's value in the market and now bounty hunters are just going to get crumbs, their token is down 60 to 70% what a waste of time.

[el kaka22]

When there are people who are complaining about one part of the project and instead of helping them understand why it is not a bad thing or maybe even accepting that part is not great and will be improved, the team ends up mocking the person who complains about it. That is always the thing that I look at and find horrible, if there is something wrong with the project there is something wrong with the project, if not there is not you can always explain yourself and why you think it is not bad, I am not even mad at a project having anything bad, you can't be perfect.

However one thing I am certain is that if the ethics and moral of that project is not good, and they end up mocking people, it will always be bad. You can't just look over-confident without ever achieving something major.

[sana54210]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

As long as it is an online business or job that we are talking about here, there should always be an escrow before the work starts. That way there will be trust between both parties; bounty hunters will be willing to put in more work knowing that they are going to get paid after their work no matter what, and the team running the project will know for sure that that trust between them and the hunters has been established and that they are putting in all their best into the work they are doing.

So this should be a thing that’s necessary, I don’t know why some managers are not doing it. Managers that are doing this are just killing business for themselves.

[isaac_clarke22]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Again, it's not all in manager's responsibility to find these projects. They're assigned to manage not be a Sherlock Holmes of any projects. They have the right to stop bounties though when red flags arise by some people who found evidences of scam projects though.
Escrow depends sometimes on the devs of the project not entirely the manager's decision as it will surely involve fees to hire an escrow.

[bittraffic]

The more important issue though is that the bounty manager should just accept projects that they can prove to be genuinely managed by a real team and not a scam.
Tokens they put to escrow are still worthless if the team will just abandon the project right after the campaign. Talking about unacceptable attitude because all these had happened before here in bitcointalk as well.

[MCDev]

Bounty managers are like bounty hunters, they also work as hires for projects. So it is very difficult for the bounty managers to make margin requirements on projects.
Currently the best way to avoid scam projects is to try to get to know the project well before making a decision to participate in its bounty program.

[acdc]

they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward

I was facing the same situation, I joined Markaccy's bonus program. The Markaccy team says they will pay out in September, but we don't yet know when they'll pay the bounty hunters.
Currently Markaccy's bounty chat is closed and the main team says to find managers to ask about bounties.

[zidanw]

I agree with that however it's not mandatory and I think most of the projects will choose not to have one and if a bounty manager requires the project to have an escrow there's a chance that the project will look for different manager and we know the competitions of the managers here in the forum one of them for sure will handle it without escrow.

[disconnectme]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

There are  two ways to see this,
1. The some bounty hunters are disgrace they behave as if they can't live without bountys so by doing this start begging some campaign managers for bounty campaigns and some even start giving them Merits just for them to be considered to be part of a campaign and all these make managers to start offering anything to them.
2. Some campaign managers are job seekers, they just want that title and won't negotiate well before running campaigns for some of these projects, if you can't be sure when people would be paid for promoting your projects then don't run the campaigns for them, or people should start giving some of these managers Red trust for them to buckle up.

[Sebas.tian]

At this point in life you have to choose between these Bounty Managers on this forum. Personally i don't follow some managers on this forum becasue of what they did in the past, most them are scammers and shouldn't be work with. With hurt from various campaign managers I decided to choose from the very few and am happy to be with them and am doing great. For the escrow, many of them have zero care when they're been paid to promote the project in dollars.

[Dragonfund]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

The truths!
Its hard to see new projects that want to escrow payments before Bounty begins, only few team do that in this forum and when they do, it will be a penny for limited participants most especially in signature campaigns.
There is nothing managers can do when the team refuse to escrowed payment, if they don't accept, others will collect and open a thread with junks of newbie participants end up promoting the project.
There are also some instances on new DeFi projects where the team are responsible for their own marketing, they don't invite or need managers to coordinate their bounties, in this case, there is absolutely nothing we can do. Just do the work and hope you get paid.

[lobo13hf]

Just think about the truth if how is possible for the team to be dictated by the manager? I have ever talked this directly with the team and as the owner of the campaign and the team will always bring you choices you can join or leave. that's the truth.

When the campaign has been running by a good team and then the manager could offer this to the team but otherwise the harsh team will never be possible to use the escrow.
We didn't need escrow but at least the team just need to send the fund to the manager and that's more than enough.

[gundala]

At this point in life you have to choose between these Bounty Managers on this forum. Personally i don't follow some managers on this forum becasue of what they did in the past, most them are scammers and shouldn't be work with. With hurt from various campaign managers I decided to choose from the very few and am happy to be with them and am doing great. For the escrow, many of them have zero care when they're been paid to promote the project in dollars.

that's a wise choice. experience does provide many lessons. I also ignore some bounty managers who are less professional, they don't eliminate scammers even though many report, often give unfair judgments, for example giving the same stake to all bounty article and video participants (even though some of the quality is bad), that's very annoying.
Furthermore, if there is a manager's bounty management that is not good enough, I consider it part of the risk. if we decide to join, we must also be prepared for any risks, such as changing rules, changing allocations, delaying reward distribution, etc. that's the joy and sorrow of being a bounty hunter.

[MWesterweele]

Currently the best way to avoid scam projects is to try to get to know the project well before making a decision to participate in its bounty program.

Even if you know the project well, there is no guarantee that you will get pay, lets assume the project is successful, what happens if the team of the project decides to not pay hunters?? I totally agree with OP, Escrow is the solution to unacceptable attitudes of the teams. Escrow also one of many signs the project is serious

Whether we may find a legit project or not if we can't get ou compensation correctly then it will be useless. That's why more of this concern should be answered and shouldered by the bounty managers. They should compensate us correctly depend upon the work or effort that we exert in the project. Well im not saying that all bounty managers were have this attitude, but some of them.

[Sy]

If the campaign manager starts escrowing the campaign rewards, then that would be a real game-changer. I mean we won't have to wait for months to get our rewards. I have participated in many bounty detective escrowed campaigns and, each time, they have sent the rewards without hiccups. The one they don't escrow can something create trouble lol

[New_order]

I've heard projects with Escrow would be better and pay off. I ended up following one of the escrow projects and it ended up being the same. I think things are really tough and this situation can't be fixed, even by the bounty manager.

Escrow only fix the issue of team evading distribution, escrow projects aren't scam free, you still need to do your own research on every projects, many escrowed bounties from bounty detective team turned scam or dead and I glad I ignore the projects then, honestly those projects are purely bad and bounty detective team can't smell it

[bitkanu]

I've heard projects with Escrow would be better and pay off. I ended up following one of the escrow projects and it ended up being the same. I think things are really tough and this situation can't be fixed, even by the bounty manager.

The funds being hold by the escrow and the team will have paid the hunters. That's why so many hunters are in demand to use more campaign to use escrow to make sure the hunters will be receiving their tokens.
The only party that can fix this problem should be the manager as it can be the escrow at the same time.

you can see some campaigns that used escrow and the hunters have gotten their payments.

[Greatdev]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

You are right and I'm not happy about it either, you work for new projects and when bounty ends it will look like bounty hunters are begging the team to pay up, it will be a good move if all bounty managers start having their own rules, this nonsense have to stop somehow, I believe that ESCROW will have good impact

[culuuton]

The projects promise to pay soon when the campaign starts, but they are very reluctant or cheat when the campaign ends even though they get millions of dollars, lots of such projects. It is time for the bounty managers to find an effective way to limit risk, Escrow service for the bounty is necessary.

[MCDev]

Currently the best way to avoid scam projects is to try to get to know the project well before making a decision to participate in its bounty program.

Even if you know the project well, there is no guarantee that you will get pay, lets assume the project is successful, what happens if the team of the project decides to not pay hunters?? I totally agree with OP, Escrow is the solution to unacceptable attitudes of the teams. Escrow also one of many signs the project is serious

Of course, the bonus program has a deposit is a great thing, then hunters and managers are assured of working without fear of scams.
However it is very unlikely, most projects want to use their coins as rewards. And keeping the project's coins as escrow doesn't bring anything, if the project is cheated then everyone will end up getting a bunch of trash.

[Lordrift]

Even without this information,
Bounty hunters should always research a particular project before participating. The bounty managers are also humans like us that are prone to make mistakes so in order to avoid working for free a bounty hunter should properly research before working.

[Smitty Werben Man Jensen]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

before you join the bounty, you must look at the bounty manager first, because good bounty managers affect the distribution of payments,
we know that many projects do not pay because of a scam or they forget the bounty hunter, yes many cases like that have happened,
but if we follow the professional bounty manager, then you will avoid things like that, or maybe minimize like that case.

[icekohl]

It will still work as it has been. No one forces you to join those bounties, and once you do you agree to their terms and conditions. If the project doesn't want to adversely affect their reputation they will pay the hunters in full.

[Reid]

Calculating it, the bounty rewards are not even that large.
I don't really understand why owners of DeFi or ICO are still trying to pay them with their coins in the end.
Why not pay with USD or USDT?
Maybe that will help boost the hunter's energy to do the job in the right way or better, like sharing it with other people/investors.

Assured that it will be escrowed. Just for insurance.
If it fails, then cut the hunters prize meaning they didn't do much of the advertising job.

[Quintrix]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

This kind of practice should be stopped I have seen a lot of projects that's locking tokens or not giving at the right time, escrow is the right thing to do but even if they distributed the token the developers can still lock the token from the wallet smart contract so we are left at the mercy of the developers, just do not support this kind of projects.

[xZork]

they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward

I was facing the same situation, I joined Markaccy's bonus program. The Markaccy team says they will pay out in September, but we don't yet know when they'll pay the bounty hunters.
Currently Markaccy's bounty chat is closed and the main team says to find managers to ask about bounties.

When people started participating in the bounty program, they said they would pay in September. At the end of the bounty program they said they would pay by the end of October. Today they told everyone that they will pay by December.
I think bounty hunters should be prepared for the worst

[flyeers309]

I think many people have discussed this issue and I am also sure that the top bounty manager must have offered escrow first.  However, as we know, the team has more power to make rules.  I don't know how long it will be like this and personally I now mostly avoid bounty managers who are irresponsible and not fast response. I prefer a clever bounty manager to urge the project team to always keep their promises.  Bubbalex is still the best for me

[semobo]

To be honest we can't enforce the bounty managers to make escrow a compulsory option while they are managing bounties and begging to them will make them feel more superior and they are not going to change anything. When you have the power in your hand they why you are begging?

 Just stop promoting any bounties which don't have escrow and other hunters also should do the same so mass avoidance will make them to enforce escrow.

[qomariah95]

Bounty Managers who use the escrow system are definitely a good move. I know, BM would want to be like that. But unfortunately the BM cannot enforce this, because if it has to oblige the project must use escrow. So there will be many projects that refuse and BM will not get their work. So this is indeed difficult to implement, because we have to think about the situation of BM.

[plr]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

They are afraid of the dump which is baseless because they allocate only 3 to 5% of their token even if half of the token is dump by the bounty hunters I don't think it will not have an impact on the price if the project has a good potential in the market but they are afraid because the token has no potential in the market and they are afraid that the bounty hunters will compete them when they dump their token.

[Mighty_crypt]

Who wouldn't agree with escrow? Every bounty hunters want to get paid even if the project doesn't live up to its expectations, not getting paid at all is the worst case scenario here, if project team are afraid of dumps they should only give up what they can afford, this is their fault so I accept the fact that escrows guaranteed bounty payments, it's the only way forward

[Hasan905]

Escrowing the bounty budget will maybe helpful for both hunters and manager. Hunters won't have to lose their rewards after working hard for a project promotion, and manager don't have to face a lot of questions from hunters about their payment. But still it won't solve the problem, because escrowing the payment doesn't mean that they will pay it at the time that they promised. No one can start the distribution till the team confirm it.

[Valzador]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Escrow is the best choice for bounty campaigns. I don't know why managers don't implement this system, whether they are lazy to send payments or give up on the project team's decisions, they are only selfish and don't care about the participants.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

No point in begging. Begging makes them even more arrogant. They don't want to do escrow, because they know that they can get away without it. We have been raising this demand ever since 2018, but the campaign managers are not ready to listen. Can't blame them as well. There are a lot of bounty hunters out there, who would join the bounties which have the most exploitative conditions.

[ARTCOINSLV]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I think some managers take money for their work right away, and what will happen next, they do not care.
If they were given money after work, like us, maybe, 80% of bounties were not held on this forum

[YOSHIE]

if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Not all managers Bounty, have to prioritize Escrow, because the tokens he is promoting in the bounty are not yet circulating on the market, most companies don't want to take risks, they only pay the manager who manages their rewards Most managers get paid with ETH & BTC.

Bounty participants who receive tokens after the bounty is over, not all managers are 'bad', most participants do not want to be paid by the bounty company, the manager only receives from the company and distributes it to participants.
it is a manager's risk in case of embezzlement, meaning that the manager is not committed to the company.

Escrow: applies to paid campaigns with Bitcoin or ETH, does not apply to bounties that pay with tokens.
No one who holds Escrow accepts tokens, if with Bitcoin & Ethereum many.

[mace15]

Who wouldn't agree with escrow? Every bounty hunters want to get paid even if the project doesn't live up to its expectations, not getting paid at all is the worst case scenario here, if project team are afraid of dumps they should only give up what they can afford, this is their fault so I accept the fact that escrows guaranteed bounty payments, it's the only way forward

Yes everyone wants to get paid when joining a campaign. If there's a escrow to a certain project it may lessen the scam happening in this industry. There so many project appearing these days so also a participants must do delligence also before joining

[Alert31]

I totally agree, it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution and it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase and they will be able to attract more participants in their campaigns.

True! That's right, bounty manager is responsible for the reward to distribute to the bounty participants. There are few BM which is really doing great their job and always think about the effort of the hunters but some other BM are not good and no heart for their advertiser/promoter.

[wack slacker]

I have found that recent bounty projects are mostly run by beginners who do not understand the market and always blame bounty participants for devaluing and underestimating work the hunters did.
They turn bounty hunters into beggars, which is just unacceptable. The long-term managers have high experience and reputation. I appreciate their expertise as well as their professionalism.
Mandatory margin is a great way to combat the disruption of bounty managers' work and ensure their performance is on par with their responsibilities.
That may be difficult for new managers, but it is essential.

[kingzpro]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Some projects after gaining the required attention and hype due to the bounty campaign resulting in successful fund raise still hesitate to distribute bounty tokens, sometimes the team or the owner of the project tries to play smart by delaying the distribution or by making lame excuses.
I think it is time that these people should accept the fact that doing such things will only harm you and the project as you are damaging the reputation of your company through dishonesty.

[ZEIIMAN]

What does it give you personally? Judging by your logic, if all bounty managers start depositing the bounty pool and distributing it, and the project will not be listed at the end, and all the time it will not be a working product at the end. In this case, you will turn your wallet into a wallet for storing dead coins/tokens. I myself have about 100 dead coins with bounty in the period 2017-2018.
You need to strive to find projects that will definitely turn out to be working and go to the stock exchanges, so that you can sell your reward and get at least some profit.

[Twinkledoe]

What does it give you personally? Judging by your logic, if all bounty managers start depositing the bounty pool and distributing it, and the project will not be listed at the end, and all the time it will not be a working product at the end. In this case, you will turn your wallet into a wallet for storing dead coins/tokens. I myself have about 100 dead coins with bounty in the period 2017-2018.
You need to strive to find projects that will definitely turn out to be working and go to the stock exchanges, so that you can sell your reward and get at least some profit.

Maybe just join btc-paying campaigns. There are a lot now in Services section, paying btc for their participants. And that I can assure that they are paying their participants every week. Most bounties in alts section really have no assurance if they will ever be valuable in the market, even if you received your share.

But with your sig campaign, I believe they will pay as they are backed by real project - the DAG. You really have to be smart in choosing your bounty program.

[xiboothrezi]

True, many new projects takes bounty hunters for granted, they used us and dump us as if we are nobody who have no right, who am I to blame them though? Instead I would drop the blame on bounty managers who aren't capable of securing their bounty hunters fund or make sure they right for bounty hunters right.

We must be wiser in dealing with this. Even though the bounty manager is also only human, he can only predict and do research to determine whether the project is feasible or not, the bounty manager is not a shaman who can predict the future accurately, so all of that is only a prediction. Sometimes the manager's bounty doesn't get paid either when the project owner has a problem.

As long as the bounty manager has tried his best, has become a good liaison between the project owner and bounty participants, is fair, but there are still problems with project owners regarding payments etc., I think we must be wiser and understand that as a risk of becoming a bounty hunter.

[Yamifoud]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

It is all about money offer. It is also about on BM discretion to accept the offer or decline it if knowing there is unreliable thing possibly to happen just like scam or Ponzi scheme promotion. The bad thing is that many new BM hasn't done thorough research before accepting the offer that is why many of them had been fooled by the scam projects.

And to talk about escrow, yeah, we can assure about payment but it just stops there. What bounty hunters trying to know is that they are assured that the project is already listed to an exchanger where they can make a trade of their rewards once they received it.

[Jawhead999]

There's already a dozens thread discussing about escrowing the bounty reward, but until now even though the reward aren't escrowed yet, why you need to join it?
You need to start ignore any bounty without escrow and only joinning with an escrowed bounty. So it will force many bounties to take escrow.

[coin-investor]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Bounty hunters and managers should unite so they can compel those who wants to launch a campaign here to do an escrow, that way developers have no choice but to giver and do an escrow, right now bounty managers are divided and they always give in to the terms of the developers, if at least 5 managers bind together to do this then we can implement this.

[Hypnosis00]

There's already a dozens thread discussing about escrowing the bounty reward, but until now even though the reward aren't escrowed yet, why you need to join it?
You need to start ignore any bounty without escrow and only joinning with an escrowed bounty. So it will force many bounties to take escrow.

Absolutely a thing that bounty hunters have to look at. Some go for unsecured funds because they know whos managing the campaign and the trust given to the manager instead. But that is different from the case when a newbie/low-rank, or new campaign manager handling it which is very risky when there is no escrowed assign to hold the funds.

However, the risk is already a part of a bounty hunter. Can't neglect to say then that some reputable manager sometimes messed it up and ended promoting a scam project.

[TGD]

There's already a dozens thread discussing about escrowing the bounty reward, but until now even though the reward aren't escrowed yet, why you need to join it?
You need to start ignore any bounty without escrow and only joinning with an escrowed bounty. So it will force many bounties to take escrow.

The problem was most of bounty nowadays are not reading anymore forum discussion. They are not informed what's going in here because they are just spamming the forum with nonsense post then leave once they reach post quota or posting there social weekly social media report. There is no way to control bounty campaign by means of telling everyone to join it. Its easier to let the bounty manager do that job.

The only problem on escrowing funds on bounty campaign was, even though bounty manager escrow the token fund, there is no guarantee that it will have value after the campaign.

[Godwinpaul]

It's a good decision, if only Escrowed bounties are allowed in the forum. The projects would have to indicate their seriousness by agreeing to Escrow the reward and the bounty hunters would be rest assured that payments for the labour would be given.

[metenjean]

It's a good decision, if only Escrowed bounties are allowed in the forum. The projects would have to indicate their seriousness by agreeing to Escrow the reward and the bounty hunters would be rest assured that payments for the labour would be given.

Do not immediately say this is a good decision, because every decision needs very careful consideration to carry out, because everyone who holds the bounty always has different work to complete, including the role of a manager and the role of an escrowed.

Bounty campaign manager need escrowed but if found trusted and most experience bounty manager what for we have escrowed for each bounty campaign? I think today how bounty campaign manager could responsibility with his campaign by never running shit campaign and less value after campaign running more than five weeks without good result. I get many bounty campaign does not have value and worth price after listing on exchange market and not matching how long we promote bounty campign.

[Hasan905]

True, many new projects takes bounty hunters for granted, they used us and dump us as if we are nobody who have no right, who am I to blame them though? Instead I would drop the blame on bounty managers who aren't capable of securing their bounty hunters fund or make sure they right for bounty hunters right.

What can a manager do if the team don't want to pay the hunters? A manager can request the team in this case, he does not have the power to do more than that.  As easy as it looks, I don't think it will be so easy in reality.  If it were easy, no manager would want his hunters not to pay and his reputation to be ruined. 

In this case, what I do suggest is to bring the team under some rules, such as if they want to run a bounty in this forum, they have to secure the payment by a selected person from forum authority.  Otherwise the team have to handover the payment within 1 week of starting campaign, campaign manager will distribute it in time.

[Yatsan]

It is really awful for the part of the bounty hunters to experience such thing that they are not being paid right based on their work done on promoting a certain project. I cannot take it how such team developers are having such attitude wanting their project to be promoted but once goal have been achieved is they are already leaving the bounty hunters that have worked for them unpaid or if ever paid, it was not basically based on what is stated on the bounty details. Bounty managers must not be the ones to be blamed for they are also just hired to do their tasks. The overall blame must be on the developer team. So before you engage on the bounty, better check first the bounty manager if it is trusted and if the team developer behind the project is reliable.

[7788bitcoin]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Which projects are you talking about, if they are not able to provide what is promised then you can very well start a scam accusation against them which will give you a general idea what is going on. I am not following the altcoin bounties and hence i am not aware of the situation but the prominent managers who take up promotions always escrow the funds as far as i have seen.

[iTradeChips]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I have to blunt about this but that is simply the truth. This has been discussed over and over for years now and the community never seem to have any sort of consensus on this. Many posters of similar threads have sprouted many years ago and still being discussed until now. I don't really want to be pessimistic because many support this idea but this is deregulated space that we are lurking in. It is almost like an anarchy state where companies and token and coin developers have a full say on what they could do on their respective projects. Bounty hunters are simply marketing tools for them and if they say they cannot pay them then unfortunately nobody can force them to pay. It is sad, really sad to think that all years work will be worth nothing.

[jdnthny]

Its totally agreeable knowing that several of the projects are now successful and growing time to time but there are some of it tends to forget or totally do not give the right rewards the bounty hunters should earn from a very long period of time promoting them. If this will be done by all the bounty managers it will be a plus points to them and it will boost their reputation for being one of the best BM this forum have. Also, BM should always consider the hard-work as well as the effort and time of every hunters in every bounty campaigns that they are managing so it will be a win-win to all of us.

[Samayuki]

It's cruelty seeing the projects you promote turned successful and still decide not to pay their promoters, if the bounty manager can't do anything about it promoters should fight for themselves, if promoters can spread good things about a project they can take all that back as well.

[Novatech8]

Escrow is a great choice, but many bounty Managers haven't been able to get it. As only the firmness of a BM is needed, like a BM that threatens to make a SCAM Thread if the payment for the Bounty Hunter is not paid immediately, that's a form of responsibility and firmnes

One of the reason for it is bounty managers themselves are not professional enough. When there are rookie bounty manager running a bounty, they are ready to compromise in most things. And another reason is greed, the once popular bounty manager atriz saw himself fall from fame just because he thought it was good to keep promoting a scam even after he'd realized it is. A professional bounty manager should always escrow the rewards wherever possible and stop promoting anything that's know to be a scam.

I agree and disagree, bounty managers don't just turn professionals out of nowhere, it's a gradual process, I myself have corrected very few bounty managers who were ready to listen to advices and they did the right thing, we are humans and no one is burn a pro

[FanEagle]

I believe there are tons of bounty managers in the forum anyway, so there is no reason to not work with them, they are quite good enough to be actually valuable for everyone in the end, if you could pay them the money beforehand they would look like escrow but at the same time they are going to work for you as well, you are not only giving them the money to distribute but you are also paying them a salary to work for you as well. That way you would get your requirements ready, whatever social media or wherever else you want bounties you would give the list and you will just sit back and relax and watch people work, it is hassle free and it will not take more than 24 hours to get an agreement with a bounty hunter neither.

This is a great deal but many shady projects decline it for obvious reasons.

[trauchot]

I completely agree with you, most cryptocurrency companies that conduct bounties do not want to pay bounty hunters their hard-earned tokens and unfortunately it is always difficult to do something with this, and I myself think that the best option for getting out of such situations is, of course, every bounty campaign must be Escrowed.

[SirLancelot]

Maybe the problem is not with the team that doesn't pay the bounty but more about the bounty hunter who doesn't research everything before they get in? There are so many bounties right now in the world that you can apply to and it is obvious that not every single one of them could ever make you profit from it, if it was the case all you would have to do is apply for airdrops and bounties all day which would take maybe one hour per day and from all the money you get from them you would be living very good life without having to work for it.

Free money doesn't exist, you either work for it or get scammed about it, that is the only option you have. However if you want to make sure not to get scammed, I would say take a look at escrow before anything else, because if the money is escrowed usually they do end up paying up.

[Ryushin]

It's always a tug of war after bounty campaigns ends, the next question from bounty hunters is when payment, only very promising team members pays bounty rewards in time without giving the bounty hunters headache, if you can follow reputable bounty managers you will surely get paid.

[desticy]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

This is a cryptocurrency, here no one owes anything to anyone, Nikito does not regulate this field. Even if the project agrees to such conditions, then they will all pay the rewards in the form of tokens, which may not cost anything for a long time, or not enter the market at all. Is this what you want?
It is best if projects will leave a deposit in the form of stablecoins, but where does the project get money without raising funds?

[Traderbtcc]

It would have been great if escrow will be used in bounties, but sadly most bounties aren't guaranteed and most of them are actually scam bounties managed by scammers themselves, sometimes the bounty campaign owners act like they are real and along the road they just disappear, but if you want to get your reward after every bounty campaign then stick to participating in bounty that are been managed by reputable bounty managers in this forum and stay away from bounties managed by newbie accounts it's likely to be a scam.

[lousie9]

that's a great solution. With the escrow, at least this can be used as a guarantee for bounty hunters, so that after the project is complete, bounty hunters can get an honest payment and can feel their hard work while promoting the project. I think other bounty hunters agree with this as well.

[b1boy]

Well i think it all decides on the bounty manager because some managers are actually reliable and would do anything for hunters to get paid while some always have this nonchalant  attitude and rip hunters off but its would be a lovely idea if all bounty managers can use Escrowy so successful projects wont always find loop holes to back out from payments

[jacafbiz]

i think the way bounty hunters go about it is also funny, some just jumped into some projects not clarifying things from the team. I know there are ways bounty managers can protect bounty hunters from all these issues. The issue I have with some of these managers is them not researching the project them are promoting and at the end the project ended up being a scam

[BTCappu]

Maybe it would be best if people wise up and abandon bounty managers that don’t ask for an escrow upfront before a project. Some of them are not interested in the money that will paid to bounty hunters, they are just interested in their own money, so how about we just boycott them so that they will know that without bounty hunters there is no business for them as bounty managers.

Hence, if they want to wise up, we wise up for them and do the necessary thing, that way they will give it a thought and change to asking for escrows.

[iTradeChips]

Maybe it would be best if people wise up and abandon bounty managers that don’t ask for an escrow upfront before a project. Some of them are not interested in the money that will paid to bounty hunters, they are just interested in their own money, so how about we just boycott them so that they will know that without bounty hunters there is no business for them as bounty managers.

Hence, if they want to wise up, we wise up for them and do the necessary thing, that way they will give it a thought and change to asking for escrows.

That is a good idea, but I am not sure if that will work as there are many bounty hunters that would choose to work rather than put their principles first. Many of the bounty hunters are those who are like workers and are not rich enough to sustain their money making operations in cryptocurrency. So they join and join until they get the right one and be paid the right amount. We can choose to boycott the bounty managers who do not force escrow to companies but these companies will just find another bounty manager to their liking. Such is the deregulated nature of cryptocurrencies. Live with it.

[Dondeon]

I personally feel participating in a campaign is by choice and not by force, in as much as I would have want an escrow but we should know that we cannot impose this on any campaign manager, so I think the best thing to do is to avoid most of these campaigns, if ko one is taking part then they will have a re-think.

[1l1l11ll1l]

We can't force escrow strategy on bounty managers, it's the team choice to use escrow or not, believe me even if all reputable bounty managers on this forum start using escrow many new promising projects won't accept and there is nothing anyone can do about it, joining bounties is not a must so discussing about this doesn't count or change anything.

Escrow is a good thing in bounties, but we still have to be able to see where we are right now. Because bounties are made in general, what the general meaning is that you are free to join them or not. If you don't want your time to be wasted on taking part in a worthless bounty, you can do some research on the project first, so the chances of getting paid will at least increase.

[joseyphil82]

Out of hundreds of bounty campaigns that paid every bounty hunters for their work on this forum only very few used ESCROW, now where did this leave us? Is Escrow that a must right now? Of course not, majority of new bounty projects haven't even launched their tokens yet, how will they use ESCROW??

[Davian144]

I personally feel participating in a campaign is by choice and not by force, in as much as I would have want an escrow but we should know that we cannot impose this on any campaign manager, so I think the best thing to do is to avoid most of these campaigns, if ko one is taking part then they will have a re-think.

Obviously everyone who follows the campaign is based on their heart's desire, not the desire or coercion of others, because everyone is free to choose the campaign he likes and based on the results that we have individually analyzed, for Escrow's advice it is good but if it is not there is, then we ourselves have to determine it, keep believing in the project or even leave it.

[jessyj48]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

We don't need to beg anybody because escrow isn't the problem here, escrow only gives you the assurance of getting your coins or tokens but there are many other things affecting bounty hunters, like

1. Exchanges that the project will get listed on
2. Is the project going to have good value?
3. Will the project raise enough funds for development?

There are more reasons why your paid tokens can become useless and escrow can't fix a shit.

[friends1980]

It's good that this topic is treated once more on this forum, because this problem has existed from the very start of bounty campaigns.

At the same time, OP's making the very important and interesting suggestion of using escrows for bounty campaigns.

OP, next time if you know an escrow would be necessary to guarantee a trustworthy campaign, I'd suggest you to warn people from the very start instead of participating and complaining when it's too late.

Futher on, if the team is known, contact a lawyer and sue them.

[Stanlo]

Why escrow? Just find good bounty managers and follow them, you will always get paid no matter what, I can still vouch for bounty managers like btcltcdigger, bubbalex, bounty detective and Hhampuz, also don't forget to do research on the projects first, this will make you notice the projects that have the best potential among the rest

[bakasabo]

Why escrow? Just find good bounty managers and follow them, you will always get paid no matter what, I can still vouch for bounty managers like btcltcdigger, bubbalex, bounty detective and Hhampuz, also don't forget to do research on the projects first, this will make you notice the projects that have the best potential among the rest

I follow almost every campaign under mentioned bounty managers and yes, I receive bounty rewards. But I can not say that these rewards always have a value. I remember that not all bounty detective campaigns are distributed, bounty projects under btcltcdigger managements usually skip distribution than pay, bubbalex managed campaign that did not distribute and other campaigns tokens cost almost zero.

[Francis Freeman]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I think some of the project teams are taking it for granted. They feel that they don't need that bounty hunters anymore after they have successfully raised money.
But I must say that not all are like that as they lose their trust if they fall back on their words.

[Spaffin]

It turns out that in fact each Bounty hunter on his own and conditionally fulfills the conditions of the Bounty Company, while adhering to the rules of the forum. And thus the Bounty Hunters sell their services to anyone who offers at least some kind of reward, and this reward is not always valuable. If, for example, there was a union of Hunters, then bounty companies and bounty hunters would fulfill all the assigned tasks, and escrow would be the main condition for project teams that conduct bounty companies. In this case, one could even influence the cost of the Hunters' work.

[shoreno]

Why escrow? Just find good bounty managers and follow them, you will always get paid no matter what, I can still vouch for bounty managers like btcltcdigger, bubbalex, bounty detective and Hhampuz, also don't forget to do research on the projects first, this will make you notice the projects that have the best potential among the rest

I follow almost every campaign under mentioned bounty managers and yes, I receive bounty rewards. But I can not say that these rewards always have a value. I remember that not all bounty detective campaigns are distributed, bounty projects under btcltcdigger managements usually skip distribution than pay, bubbalex managed campaign that did not distribute and other campaigns tokens cost almost zero.

thats an honest feedback . now hunters will know and not assume too much from the good managers but that was only in the case of bounty campaigns because for the non bounty based campaigns some of those know managers like Hhampuz will always escrow the funds before starting  . he ( @Stanlo ) said that good bounty managers still pay no matter what , that includes tokens with less value but except to those pending and unpayed tokens  . i think scams are really inevitable no matter how good the managers handling the bounties are

[jademaxsuy]

This has been an issue and it did not only happen to new projects but to other older projects as well. There is no action being made but only a few system that has been added and implemented here in tge forum like the trust system. If you are promoting or managing a scam project then you will get tag or something. The best thing we could do is to stop doing bounty hunting so that it will not be a waste of time and resources promoting projects that are not paying. You can join a project but it should be make sure that they are really paying.

[aemma]

Truth be told, it is an unacceptable attitude but what can anyone do? Because at every instance they will draw you back to the rules and regulations guiding the bounty which you a bounty hunter agreed to before participating. And one thing about rules is that, sometimes it favours only the person that set the rules, while the other party are left in the dark; what I meant is this, a team will delay reward and also quote the rules that they can change the distribution and so on, and the same team will still go ahead to pay deaf ears to hunters thus refusing to pay, refusing to give a date for distribution, reducing the rewards terribly and also blocking the hunters from their groups. So you can see, they set the rules, they implement it and also break it just to suit them.
So that brings us to one solution, escrow, if all bounty managers can make it compulsory to escrow there is a higher chance that they team won't at least refuse to pay; therefore Yes, escrow is needed.

[Winscosinally]

I'm very familiar with how teams can be so mean after bounty ends, sometimes I felt like I'm been used for nothing, Escrow can actually works but believe me, not all projects will accept this, even projects that have distribution date on their bounty thread change their own rules after bounty ends, we can't do anything about this, let's just accept things as it is.

[Winscosinally]

Another good solution is to follow special bounty managers, few still have some love for their bounty hunters and community, they will go any lent to make sure their bounty hunters get paid as promised, bubbalex my eye is on you on this one, Hhampuz is another good one too

[davinchi]

Maybe it would be best if people wise up and abandon bounty managers that don’t ask for an escrow upfront before a project. Some of them are not interested in the money that will paid to bounty hunters, they are just interested in their own money, so how about we just boycott them so that they will know that without bounty hunters there is no business for them as bounty managers.

Hence, if they want to wise up, we wise up for them and do the necessary thing, that way they will give it a thought and change to asking for escrows.

That is a good idea, but I am not sure if that will work as there are many bounty hunters that would choose to work rather than put their principles first. Many of the bounty hunters are those who are like workers and are not rich enough to sustain their money making operations in cryptocurrency. So they join and join until they get the right one and be paid the right amount. We can choose to boycott the bounty managers who do not force escrow to companies but these companies will just find another bounty manager to their liking. Such is the deregulated nature of cryptocurrencies. Live with it.

That is the only way we could make this work. If enough of us stop working with bounty managers who do not ask for escrow, or just apply a lot more towards ones that have escrow, we could force bounty managers hand. However we are in a situation where people let alone care about escrow in a bounty manager, do not mind applying for bounties that do not even have a manager, sometimes projects start their own bounty campaign and they only care about that so they end up with basically nothing at all.

I do not really understand why they would do that because at the end of the day if a project is doing their own bounty that means they scared away from paying a bounty manager which shouldn't really be a lot of money if you ask me, and if they fail to do that, they won't be paying you neither.

[tycsols]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I have also seen campaigns that were very successful and the projects were ablemto raise the target funds in the assigned period of time but the shocking part is that still those projects do not want to pay hunters and for that they try to delay distribution, announce swaps, introduce reward claim forms, introduce kyc requirements plus multiple other tactics to reduce the final number of bounty reward.
I have missed out on rewards due to these gimmicks in the past so i know how bad it feels and obviously it should be stopped.