Unacceptable attitudes from new project teams

[Vishnu.Reang]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

No point in begging. Begging makes them even more arrogant. They don't want to do escrow, because they know that they can get away without it. We have been raising this demand ever since 2018, but the campaign managers are not ready to listen. Can't blame them as well. There are a lot of bounty hunters out there, who would join the bounties which have the most exploitative conditions.

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[ARTCOINSLV]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

I think some managers take money for their work right away, and what will happen next, they do not care.
If they were given money after work, like us, maybe, 80% of bounties were not held on this forum

[YOSHIE]

if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Not all managers Bounty, have to prioritize Escrow, because the tokens he is promoting in the bounty are not yet circulating on the market, most companies don't want to take risks, they only pay the manager who manages their rewards Most managers get paid with ETH & BTC.

Bounty participants who receive tokens after the bounty is over, not all managers are 'bad', most participants do not want to be paid by the bounty company, the manager only receives from the company and distributes it to participants.
it is a manager's risk in case of embezzlement, meaning that the manager is not committed to the company.

Escrow: applies to paid campaigns with Bitcoin or ETH, does not apply to bounties that pay with tokens.
No one who holds Escrow accepts tokens, if with Bitcoin & Ethereum many.

[mace15]

Who wouldn't agree with escrow? Every bounty hunters want to get paid even if the project doesn't live up to its expectations, not getting paid at all is the worst case scenario here, if project team are afraid of dumps they should only give up what they can afford, this is their fault so I accept the fact that escrows guaranteed bounty payments, it's the only way forward

Yes everyone wants to get paid when joining a campaign. If there's a escrow to a certain project it may lessen the scam happening in this industry. There so many project appearing these days so also a participants must do delligence also before joining

[Alert31]

I totally agree, it is time for bounty managers to take action and be responsible for the reward token distribution and it will greatly benefit them too as their reputation will increase and they will be able to attract more participants in their campaigns.

True! That's right, bounty manager is responsible for the reward to distribute to the bounty participants. There are few BM which is really doing great their job and always think about the effort of the hunters but some other BM are not good and no heart for their advertiser/promoter.

[wack slacker]

I have found that recent bounty projects are mostly run by beginners who do not understand the market and always blame bounty participants for devaluing and underestimating work the hunters did.
They turn bounty hunters into beggars, which is just unacceptable. The long-term managers have high experience and reputation. I appreciate their expertise as well as their professionalism.
Mandatory margin is a great way to combat the disruption of bounty managers' work and ensure their performance is on par with their responsibilities.
That may be difficult for new managers, but it is essential.

[kingzpro]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Some projects after gaining the required attention and hype due to the bounty campaign resulting in successful fund raise still hesitate to distribute bounty tokens, sometimes the team or the owner of the project tries to play smart by delaying the distribution or by making lame excuses.
I think it is time that these people should accept the fact that doing such things will only harm you and the project as you are damaging the reputation of your company through dishonesty.

[ZEIIMAN]

What does it give you personally? Judging by your logic, if all bounty managers start depositing the bounty pool and distributing it, and the project will not be listed at the end, and all the time it will not be a working product at the end. In this case, you will turn your wallet into a wallet for storing dead coins/tokens. I myself have about 100 dead coins with bounty in the period 2017-2018.
You need to strive to find projects that will definitely turn out to be working and go to the stock exchanges, so that you can sell your reward and get at least some profit.

[Twinkledoe]

What does it give you personally? Judging by your logic, if all bounty managers start depositing the bounty pool and distributing it, and the project will not be listed at the end, and all the time it will not be a working product at the end. In this case, you will turn your wallet into a wallet for storing dead coins/tokens. I myself have about 100 dead coins with bounty in the period 2017-2018.
You need to strive to find projects that will definitely turn out to be working and go to the stock exchanges, so that you can sell your reward and get at least some profit.

Maybe just join btc-paying campaigns. There are a lot now in Services section, paying btc for their participants. And that I can assure that they are paying their participants every week. Most bounties in alts section really have no assurance if they will ever be valuable in the market, even if you received your share.

But with your sig campaign, I believe they will pay as they are backed by real project - the DAG. You really have to be smart in choosing your bounty program.

[xiboothrezi]

True, many new projects takes bounty hunters for granted, they used us and dump us as if we are nobody who have no right, who am I to blame them though? Instead I would drop the blame on bounty managers who aren't capable of securing their bounty hunters fund or make sure they right for bounty hunters right.

We must be wiser in dealing with this. Even though the bounty manager is also only human, he can only predict and do research to determine whether the project is feasible or not, the bounty manager is not a shaman who can predict the future accurately, so all of that is only a prediction. Sometimes the manager's bounty doesn't get paid either when the project owner has a problem.

As long as the bounty manager has tried his best, has become a good liaison between the project owner and bounty participants, is fair, but there are still problems with project owners regarding payments etc., I think we must be wiser and understand that as a risk of becoming a bounty hunter.

[Yamifoud]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

It is all about money offer. It is also about on BM discretion to accept the offer or decline it if knowing there is unreliable thing possibly to happen just like scam or Ponzi scheme promotion. The bad thing is that many new BM hasn't done thorough research before accepting the offer that is why many of them had been fooled by the scam projects.

And to talk about escrow, yeah, we can assure about payment but it just stops there. What bounty hunters trying to know is that they are assured that the project is already listed to an exchanger where they can make a trade of their rewards once they received it.

[Jawhead999]

There's already a dozens thread discussing about escrowing the bounty reward, but until now even though the reward aren't escrowed yet, why you need to join it?
You need to start ignore any bounty without escrow and only joinning with an escrowed bounty. So it will force many bounties to take escrow.

[coin-investor]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Bounty hunters and managers should unite so they can compel those who wants to launch a campaign here to do an escrow, that way developers have no choice but to giver and do an escrow, right now bounty managers are divided and they always give in to the terms of the developers, if at least 5 managers bind together to do this then we can implement this.

[Hypnosis00]

There's already a dozens thread discussing about escrowing the bounty reward, but until now even though the reward aren't escrowed yet, why you need to join it?
You need to start ignore any bounty without escrow and only joinning with an escrowed bounty. So it will force many bounties to take escrow.

Absolutely a thing that bounty hunters have to look at. Some go for unsecured funds because they know whos managing the campaign and the trust given to the manager instead. But that is different from the case when a newbie/low-rank, or new campaign manager handling it which is very risky when there is no escrowed assign to hold the funds.

However, the risk is already a part of a bounty hunter. Can't neglect to say then that some reputable manager sometimes messed it up and ended promoting a scam project.

[TGD]

There's already a dozens thread discussing about escrowing the bounty reward, but until now even though the reward aren't escrowed yet, why you need to join it?
You need to start ignore any bounty without escrow and only joinning with an escrowed bounty. So it will force many bounties to take escrow.

The problem was most of bounty nowadays are not reading anymore forum discussion. They are not informed what's going in here because they are just spamming the forum with nonsense post then leave once they reach post quota or posting there social weekly social media report. There is no way to control bounty campaign by means of telling everyone to join it. Its easier to let the bounty manager do that job.

The only problem on escrowing funds on bounty campaign was, even though bounty manager escrow the token fund, there is no guarantee that it will have value after the campaign.

[Godwinpaul]

It's a good decision, if only Escrowed bounties are allowed in the forum. The projects would have to indicate their seriousness by agreeing to Escrow the reward and the bounty hunters would be rest assured that payments for the labour would be given.

[metenjean]

It's a good decision, if only Escrowed bounties are allowed in the forum. The projects would have to indicate their seriousness by agreeing to Escrow the reward and the bounty hunters would be rest assured that payments for the labour would be given.

Do not immediately say this is a good decision, because every decision needs very careful consideration to carry out, because everyone who holds the bounty always has different work to complete, including the role of a manager and the role of an escrowed.

Bounty campaign manager need escrowed but if found trusted and most experience bounty manager what for we have escrowed for each bounty campaign? I think today how bounty campaign manager could responsibility with his campaign by never running shit campaign and less value after campaign running more than five weeks without good result. I get many bounty campaign does not have value and worth price after listing on exchange market and not matching how long we promote bounty campign.

[Hasan905]

True, many new projects takes bounty hunters for granted, they used us and dump us as if we are nobody who have no right, who am I to blame them though? Instead I would drop the blame on bounty managers who aren't capable of securing their bounty hunters fund or make sure they right for bounty hunters right.

What can a manager do if the team don't want to pay the hunters? A manager can request the team in this case, he does not have the power to do more than that.  As easy as it looks, I don't think it will be so easy in reality.  If it were easy, no manager would want his hunters not to pay and his reputation to be ruined. 

In this case, what I do suggest is to bring the team under some rules, such as if they want to run a bounty in this forum, they have to secure the payment by a selected person from forum authority.  Otherwise the team have to handover the payment within 1 week of starting campaign, campaign manager will distribute it in time.

[Yatsan]

It is really awful for the part of the bounty hunters to experience such thing that they are not being paid right based on their work done on promoting a certain project. I cannot take it how such team developers are having such attitude wanting their project to be promoted but once goal have been achieved is they are already leaving the bounty hunters that have worked for them unpaid or if ever paid, it was not basically based on what is stated on the bounty details. Bounty managers must not be the ones to be blamed for they are also just hired to do their tasks. The overall blame must be on the developer team. So before you engage on the bounty, better check first the bounty manager if it is trusted and if the team developer behind the project is reliable.

[7788bitcoin]

Bounty managers of this forum it's time to wisen up, I know few bounty managers are already doing this but majority aren't,  top rated crypto projects that raised millions of dollars successfully are finding it very very hard to pay Bounty Hunters their tokens after all the hardwork talkless of med rated crypto projects, they feel reluctant to pay bounty hunters reward so I'm begging you guys to start compulsory Escrow, if every bounty managers they seek ask for Escrow they won't have any choice but to comply

Which projects are you talking about, if they are not able to provide what is promised then you can very well start a scam accusation against them which will give you a general idea what is going on. I am not following the altcoin bounties and hence i am not aware of the situation but the prominent managers who take up promotions always escrow the funds as far as i have seen.