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October 30, 2020, 07:43:45 AM
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There is nothing intentional with the death. Even if the organizers have made it right following the proper rules and procedures this death could've happened. I state this based on the way the attack has happened. It has taken place by accident, which isn't avoidable. Maybe then onwards more precaution will be taken while organizing these games by emergency units ready to handle any situation nearby.

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October 30, 2020, 07:47:46 AM
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That is the responsibility of a law enforcer in eradicating gambling in the Philippines, how can chickens attack a human being, let alone the police, I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.
this was illgegal betting and illegal bettings are commonly being raded and when police do raids they wont usually wore uniform so that they can act as a normal bettor in order for the crowd to not panic and when they are inside thats the time they will call for back up and police that will back are in full uniform .

not just in a uniform but the one that should handle the chicken are expert on this activity because its dangerous knowing that chickens are still equiped with these sharp knives .

 the chicken could have also panic along with the crowd resulting for it to hit the police accidentally
The are called assets. They are pretending to be a normal individual just to caught in act those people who does an illegal activity. Sometimes they are also using a normal individual as a spy or undercover. They are using body camera just to listen with the conversation and wait for the right signal when they need to take an action because their main goal is to caught the suspect in an unexpectingly way.
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October 30, 2020, 07:57:05 AM
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so at first they were surround the vicinity without any uniform or gear? i think it's a good strategy to surround the vicinity and corner their target person maybe the one who operates that illegal cockfighting arena.

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October 30, 2020, 08:22:45 AM
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It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.
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October 30, 2020, 09:05:24 AM
Last edit: November 02, 2020, 10:35:49 AM by Sirait
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^ sad to hear there a victim died in the raid on cockfighting gambling. I think why the police were not wearing special clothes at the time of the raid, is he trivial!

in developing countries, cockfighting is still a favorite of local gamblers because of the high profits and high prices of fighting cocks.

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October 30, 2020, 09:20:58 AM
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It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.

Such instances are really heart breaking as such instances could be really avoided and no human should be losing his life like this. Though it was an accident and nothing was purposely done but still at times there should be some strict rules for this type of violation else it will continue to happen in future too.

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October 30, 2020, 09:23:00 AM
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It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.

Sad to say that illegal cock fight pits are not following any protocols that's why they are been raised by the follow officer and it's just unfortunate accident which cost the life of officer. This is isolated case though it's really sad to see a life wasted because of illegal vices of other people.

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October 30, 2020, 09:42:59 AM
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This is a habit some gamblers engage in that is rather not worthy, endorsing or petronizing illegal gambling. The issue with this one is, the option of making it go legal is available to them, it's just for them to get the necessary permit and the policing fear factor would be gone for good. Having such a weapon shows the length of suffistication the organizers are in their game or little show and as such, fund to acquire necessary permits shouldn't have been a problem as far as I sense it.
It's just so sad that it cost a life for them to recognize this. That rooter object is so sharp, amazing what humans make animals do yo themselves for our amusement and probably earn some bucks.
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October 30, 2020, 09:43:43 AM
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First of all sympathy for the family of the officer who died in line of doing his duty, this accident that happened
really annoying as the police life suffer because of this people who organized this gambling activities.

I'm sure that those who got caught are now regretting what they've did, knowing that someone loss his life
because of their stupidity.

Those people will serve more years after the death of this official, instead of only for gambling more  cases
will be added as there's life that been cause of this illegal gambling.

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October 30, 2020, 09:54:08 AM
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Sorry for the loss of the family but he dies as a hero raiding illegal gambling and risking His life while those gamblers are still having their enjoyable gambling till now.
This is a rampant gambling in Philippines and i hate to admit but it looks like unstoppable and since i was a child same situation that i brought up and governments can't do anything about that.
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October 30, 2020, 09:54:32 AM
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Was there no one to perform first aid to the police? I'm not too or rather, not really familiar with how blood loss works, but I think you can put pressure in the arteries to stop the continuous blood flow. Not sure if it works in this particular artery though. Also, was the police not informed that the roosters have said "Tari"? I'm pretty sure that the lead officer of sorts should've briefed them of what's what in there. I mean, I'm pretty sure this isn't their first raid of illegal cockfighting dens, and I'm pretty sure that at one point or another, they've seen said "Tari" and should've known that those things are dangerous, especially since they're dealing with roosters here which are pretty difficult to get under control once it starts panicking.

A pity to the police who died. Could've honestly prevented it with enough safety precautions available.

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October 30, 2020, 10:20:56 AM
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^ sad to hear there a victim died in the raid on cockfighting gambling. I think why the police were not wearing special clothes at the time of the raid, is he trivial!
Lol special clothes?who knows that the Cock can hit police that bad and this is a legit operation that needs to be conducted quickly because these Guerilla gambling can be out in any time,meaning the betting can stand only for minutes or just an hour so must be operated faster to take the gamblers into the bars.
^ in developing countries, cockfighting is still a favorite of local gamblers because of the high profits and high prices of fighting cocks.
Actually there are legal cockfighting tournament in the philippines its just happen that these illegal operators loves to Cheat in paying obligation in government so they run these kind of gambling.

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October 30, 2020, 10:29:57 AM
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It was an accident yes but it could have been avoided if only the organizer follows the protocol there wouldn't have been a raid.
I feel sorry for the Police officers family they lost him because of the people who didn't follow the law.

Exactly, it was completely tragic and unnecessary death that could have been avoided.
I"m strongly against any kind of animals fight and betting on that so I think that gamblers shouldn't support such cruel and illegal activities. Even if maybe they are legal or tolerated in some countries they should be banned.

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October 30, 2020, 11:02:21 AM
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If cockfighting is allowed in the area then why do the raids as I think it would be better to give advance warning, since the problem or the breach here is just ignoring protocol. If the initial warning is indeed ignored, then the next step is to carry out the raid with more preparedness I think this incident might be avoided.
I don't know if the use of "tari" is allowed or not, because if the problem is just ignoring the protocol, I'm not sure that initially legal cockfighting could become illegal just because it ignored the protocol.

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October 30, 2020, 11:05:41 AM
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Exactly, it was completely tragic and unnecessary death that could have been avoided.
I"m strongly against any kind of animals fight and betting on that so I think that gamblers shouldn't support such cruel and illegal activities. Even if maybe they are legal or tolerated in some countries they should be banned.

Me too I'm not really a fan of animal fighting just for the sake of entertainment and gambling isn't that it's too cruel? Sorry to hear about the officer who lost his life.

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October 30, 2020, 11:38:47 AM
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I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.
It's risky for human but gamblers in the ring know how to handle this as they have been doing this for years, the raid is just different, it made people panic and these animals as well, and that could the reason why an officer was hit by a blade. This type of game is very popular in the Philippines reason why we are still seeing a lot of violators despite of the huge penalty impose to them.

For some, this type of game will fall to animal cruelty or something but chicken for them are not considered as pets.

It vary from country to country as some country may declare this illegal but other countries like Philippines are proud of this sports if we can qualify this.

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October 30, 2020, 12:19:08 PM
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I too had heard that cock fighting is popular in Philippines but didn't knew that was this crazy. Where there are gamblers involved, they take it to the next level. I too recently found out that there are cock fighting tournaments in my country too. These cocks are really dangerous and they are a completely different breed raised just for fight. A single of them on average costs about $2K here. They eat about 2 kilos of meat a day. Surely they are lethal.
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I was truly shocked hearing this news and I can not believe that a fighting cock would have ended killing a grown man apart from killing an opponent cock! that policeman that gathering evidence end up hitting by the Tari (the sharp object that was equipped on the cock as a weapon) on the thigh part and hitting the femoral artery a sensitive vein that continually losses his blood and killing the cop in the process,

This is all an accident but it can be avoided if this illegal cockfighting was not in place and if there are no people violating the rules when their place was under the strict policy of no illegal gambling, So sad in hearing this news and I am truly sorry for the family.
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October 30, 2020, 12:42:35 PM
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I've also heard and watch that news from the Philippines and that's normal in the cockpit zone because if you know what is the situation inside the cockpit area then probably you also know how the bet game is occurring on it aside from this what so called "Tari" which is a dangerous and sharp object which is putting to the chicken in order to fight and kill the opposite chicken to win the bet game.
I believe that it is not just a "tari" but there is also a illegal chemical that has been put in the sharp object and that's why it kills people.



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October 30, 2020, 12:45:38 PM
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This is normal in cockfighting arena in which the Cocks goes wild when there is a raid or attacking those people closes to them.
and with that sharp Metal in Their feet surely it can harm or kill people if not aware of this.
So sorry for the loss and hope this will never happen again,next time try to input more safeties when dealing with cocks.

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